Highlift jack
#161
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Re: Highlift jack
Actually, it was YOU that brought them up by suggesting they were an attempt
by American car makers to come down to Japanese quality. These bumpers came
about as a result of federal mandate, not competitive pressures from Japan.
And the bush guard on the front of your Bronco is completely irrelevent.
"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
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> Jeff, YOU brought up the five mile an hour bumper, that collapses
> through your car at six. I don't blame you for not being able to think
> of what would happen to you and your Bimmer, if you hit a Real bumper.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Jeff Strickland wrote:
> >
> > That is beside the point, Bill.
by American car makers to come down to Japanese quality. These bumpers came
about as a result of federal mandate, not competitive pressures from Japan.
And the bush guard on the front of your Bronco is completely irrelevent.
"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:419E47C6.4BF2E73D@***.net...
> Jeff, YOU brought up the five mile an hour bumper, that collapses
> through your car at six. I don't blame you for not being able to think
> of what would happen to you and your Bimmer, if you hit a Real bumper.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Jeff Strickland wrote:
> >
> > That is beside the point, Bill.
#162
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Re: Highlift jack
Actually, it was YOU that brought them up by suggesting they were an attempt
by American car makers to come down to Japanese quality. These bumpers came
about as a result of federal mandate, not competitive pressures from Japan.
And the bush guard on the front of your Bronco is completely irrelevent.
"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:419E47C6.4BF2E73D@***.net...
> Jeff, YOU brought up the five mile an hour bumper, that collapses
> through your car at six. I don't blame you for not being able to think
> of what would happen to you and your Bimmer, if you hit a Real bumper.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Jeff Strickland wrote:
> >
> > That is beside the point, Bill.
by American car makers to come down to Japanese quality. These bumpers came
about as a result of federal mandate, not competitive pressures from Japan.
And the bush guard on the front of your Bronco is completely irrelevent.
"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:419E47C6.4BF2E73D@***.net...
> Jeff, YOU brought up the five mile an hour bumper, that collapses
> through your car at six. I don't blame you for not being able to think
> of what would happen to you and your Bimmer, if you hit a Real bumper.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Jeff Strickland wrote:
> >
> > That is beside the point, Bill.
#163
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Re: Highlift jack
Actually, it was YOU that brought them up by suggesting they were an attempt
by American car makers to come down to Japanese quality. These bumpers came
about as a result of federal mandate, not competitive pressures from Japan.
And the bush guard on the front of your Bronco is completely irrelevent.
"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:419E47C6.4BF2E73D@***.net...
> Jeff, YOU brought up the five mile an hour bumper, that collapses
> through your car at six. I don't blame you for not being able to think
> of what would happen to you and your Bimmer, if you hit a Real bumper.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Jeff Strickland wrote:
> >
> > That is beside the point, Bill.
by American car makers to come down to Japanese quality. These bumpers came
about as a result of federal mandate, not competitive pressures from Japan.
And the bush guard on the front of your Bronco is completely irrelevent.
"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:419E47C6.4BF2E73D@***.net...
> Jeff, YOU brought up the five mile an hour bumper, that collapses
> through your car at six. I don't blame you for not being able to think
> of what would happen to you and your Bimmer, if you hit a Real bumper.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Jeff Strickland wrote:
> >
> > That is beside the point, Bill.
#164
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Re: Highlift jack
I have a nice small floor jack that tucks in tight under the back of my
passenger seat. It works well and is pretty stable.
I Have seen spring pins changed using one of those high lifts. Really
scary.....
I sure won't disagree that they have their uses and can remember some
fun with the floor jack and my 1/2 ton Chevy pickup high centered in
some back corner of Vancouver Island. A tall jack would have been
handy. I still got out....
Mike
Steve wrote:
>
> Hi Mike,
>
> I'm never in the woods without the hilift. Saved my can several times.
> Ever try changing broken leaf spring ubolts & pin with a bottle jack?
> That said, I agree 100% with your statement below. These periodic
> discussions serve well to remind us how improper use or a momentarily
> lapse of prudence can be fatal.
>
> Steve
> http://xjeep.dyndns.org
>
> Mike Romain wrote:
>
> > By pointing out my reasons for disliking them, a good discussion
> > normally occurs on a lot of 'do's and don'ts' about them so everyone
> > gets some education, even me.
> >
> > I think folks deserve to know the 'worst' part about something as well
> > as hearing about how 'wonderful' and 'useful' such a dangerous 'toy' can
> > be.
> >
> > Mike
passenger seat. It works well and is pretty stable.
I Have seen spring pins changed using one of those high lifts. Really
scary.....
I sure won't disagree that they have their uses and can remember some
fun with the floor jack and my 1/2 ton Chevy pickup high centered in
some back corner of Vancouver Island. A tall jack would have been
handy. I still got out....
Mike
Steve wrote:
>
> Hi Mike,
>
> I'm never in the woods without the hilift. Saved my can several times.
> Ever try changing broken leaf spring ubolts & pin with a bottle jack?
> That said, I agree 100% with your statement below. These periodic
> discussions serve well to remind us how improper use or a momentarily
> lapse of prudence can be fatal.
>
> Steve
> http://xjeep.dyndns.org
>
> Mike Romain wrote:
>
> > By pointing out my reasons for disliking them, a good discussion
> > normally occurs on a lot of 'do's and don'ts' about them so everyone
> > gets some education, even me.
> >
> > I think folks deserve to know the 'worst' part about something as well
> > as hearing about how 'wonderful' and 'useful' such a dangerous 'toy' can
> > be.
> >
> > Mike
#165
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Re: Highlift jack
I have a nice small floor jack that tucks in tight under the back of my
passenger seat. It works well and is pretty stable.
I Have seen spring pins changed using one of those high lifts. Really
scary.....
I sure won't disagree that they have their uses and can remember some
fun with the floor jack and my 1/2 ton Chevy pickup high centered in
some back corner of Vancouver Island. A tall jack would have been
handy. I still got out....
Mike
Steve wrote:
>
> Hi Mike,
>
> I'm never in the woods without the hilift. Saved my can several times.
> Ever try changing broken leaf spring ubolts & pin with a bottle jack?
> That said, I agree 100% with your statement below. These periodic
> discussions serve well to remind us how improper use or a momentarily
> lapse of prudence can be fatal.
>
> Steve
> http://xjeep.dyndns.org
>
> Mike Romain wrote:
>
> > By pointing out my reasons for disliking them, a good discussion
> > normally occurs on a lot of 'do's and don'ts' about them so everyone
> > gets some education, even me.
> >
> > I think folks deserve to know the 'worst' part about something as well
> > as hearing about how 'wonderful' and 'useful' such a dangerous 'toy' can
> > be.
> >
> > Mike
passenger seat. It works well and is pretty stable.
I Have seen spring pins changed using one of those high lifts. Really
scary.....
I sure won't disagree that they have their uses and can remember some
fun with the floor jack and my 1/2 ton Chevy pickup high centered in
some back corner of Vancouver Island. A tall jack would have been
handy. I still got out....
Mike
Steve wrote:
>
> Hi Mike,
>
> I'm never in the woods without the hilift. Saved my can several times.
> Ever try changing broken leaf spring ubolts & pin with a bottle jack?
> That said, I agree 100% with your statement below. These periodic
> discussions serve well to remind us how improper use or a momentarily
> lapse of prudence can be fatal.
>
> Steve
> http://xjeep.dyndns.org
>
> Mike Romain wrote:
>
> > By pointing out my reasons for disliking them, a good discussion
> > normally occurs on a lot of 'do's and don'ts' about them so everyone
> > gets some education, even me.
> >
> > I think folks deserve to know the 'worst' part about something as well
> > as hearing about how 'wonderful' and 'useful' such a dangerous 'toy' can
> > be.
> >
> > Mike
#166
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Re: Highlift jack
I have a nice small floor jack that tucks in tight under the back of my
passenger seat. It works well and is pretty stable.
I Have seen spring pins changed using one of those high lifts. Really
scary.....
I sure won't disagree that they have their uses and can remember some
fun with the floor jack and my 1/2 ton Chevy pickup high centered in
some back corner of Vancouver Island. A tall jack would have been
handy. I still got out....
Mike
Steve wrote:
>
> Hi Mike,
>
> I'm never in the woods without the hilift. Saved my can several times.
> Ever try changing broken leaf spring ubolts & pin with a bottle jack?
> That said, I agree 100% with your statement below. These periodic
> discussions serve well to remind us how improper use or a momentarily
> lapse of prudence can be fatal.
>
> Steve
> http://xjeep.dyndns.org
>
> Mike Romain wrote:
>
> > By pointing out my reasons for disliking them, a good discussion
> > normally occurs on a lot of 'do's and don'ts' about them so everyone
> > gets some education, even me.
> >
> > I think folks deserve to know the 'worst' part about something as well
> > as hearing about how 'wonderful' and 'useful' such a dangerous 'toy' can
> > be.
> >
> > Mike
passenger seat. It works well and is pretty stable.
I Have seen spring pins changed using one of those high lifts. Really
scary.....
I sure won't disagree that they have their uses and can remember some
fun with the floor jack and my 1/2 ton Chevy pickup high centered in
some back corner of Vancouver Island. A tall jack would have been
handy. I still got out....
Mike
Steve wrote:
>
> Hi Mike,
>
> I'm never in the woods without the hilift. Saved my can several times.
> Ever try changing broken leaf spring ubolts & pin with a bottle jack?
> That said, I agree 100% with your statement below. These periodic
> discussions serve well to remind us how improper use or a momentarily
> lapse of prudence can be fatal.
>
> Steve
> http://xjeep.dyndns.org
>
> Mike Romain wrote:
>
> > By pointing out my reasons for disliking them, a good discussion
> > normally occurs on a lot of 'do's and don'ts' about them so everyone
> > gets some education, even me.
> >
> > I think folks deserve to know the 'worst' part about something as well
> > as hearing about how 'wonderful' and 'useful' such a dangerous 'toy' can
> > be.
> >
> > Mike
#167
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Re: Highlift jack
Hi Steve,
Don't underestimate a bottle jack, I can walk a stuck Jeep out
pretty fast, and I'm not wasting time unloading the springs, before I
shift it. The dents on the sides will show you how it's used:
http://www.----------.com/hydrojack.jpg Of course, it never rains in
Kalifornia so working underwater is not a problem.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:--------------------
Steve wrote:
>
> Hi Mike,
>
> I'm never in the woods without the hilift. Saved my can several times.
> Ever try changing broken leaf spring ubolts & pin with a bottle jack?
> That said, I agree 100% with your statement below. These periodic
> discussions serve well to remind us how improper use or a momentarily
> lapse of prudence can be fatal.
>
> Steve
> http://xjeep.dyndns.org
Don't underestimate a bottle jack, I can walk a stuck Jeep out
pretty fast, and I'm not wasting time unloading the springs, before I
shift it. The dents on the sides will show you how it's used:
http://www.----------.com/hydrojack.jpg Of course, it never rains in
Kalifornia so working underwater is not a problem.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:--------------------
Steve wrote:
>
> Hi Mike,
>
> I'm never in the woods without the hilift. Saved my can several times.
> Ever try changing broken leaf spring ubolts & pin with a bottle jack?
> That said, I agree 100% with your statement below. These periodic
> discussions serve well to remind us how improper use or a momentarily
> lapse of prudence can be fatal.
>
> Steve
> http://xjeep.dyndns.org
#168
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Re: Highlift jack
Hi Steve,
Don't underestimate a bottle jack, I can walk a stuck Jeep out
pretty fast, and I'm not wasting time unloading the springs, before I
shift it. The dents on the sides will show you how it's used:
http://www.----------.com/hydrojack.jpg Of course, it never rains in
Kalifornia so working underwater is not a problem.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:--------------------
Steve wrote:
>
> Hi Mike,
>
> I'm never in the woods without the hilift. Saved my can several times.
> Ever try changing broken leaf spring ubolts & pin with a bottle jack?
> That said, I agree 100% with your statement below. These periodic
> discussions serve well to remind us how improper use or a momentarily
> lapse of prudence can be fatal.
>
> Steve
> http://xjeep.dyndns.org
Don't underestimate a bottle jack, I can walk a stuck Jeep out
pretty fast, and I'm not wasting time unloading the springs, before I
shift it. The dents on the sides will show you how it's used:
http://www.----------.com/hydrojack.jpg Of course, it never rains in
Kalifornia so working underwater is not a problem.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:--------------------
Steve wrote:
>
> Hi Mike,
>
> I'm never in the woods without the hilift. Saved my can several times.
> Ever try changing broken leaf spring ubolts & pin with a bottle jack?
> That said, I agree 100% with your statement below. These periodic
> discussions serve well to remind us how improper use or a momentarily
> lapse of prudence can be fatal.
>
> Steve
> http://xjeep.dyndns.org
#169
Guest
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Re: Highlift jack
Hi Steve,
Don't underestimate a bottle jack, I can walk a stuck Jeep out
pretty fast, and I'm not wasting time unloading the springs, before I
shift it. The dents on the sides will show you how it's used:
http://www.----------.com/hydrojack.jpg Of course, it never rains in
Kalifornia so working underwater is not a problem.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:--------------------
Steve wrote:
>
> Hi Mike,
>
> I'm never in the woods without the hilift. Saved my can several times.
> Ever try changing broken leaf spring ubolts & pin with a bottle jack?
> That said, I agree 100% with your statement below. These periodic
> discussions serve well to remind us how improper use or a momentarily
> lapse of prudence can be fatal.
>
> Steve
> http://xjeep.dyndns.org
Don't underestimate a bottle jack, I can walk a stuck Jeep out
pretty fast, and I'm not wasting time unloading the springs, before I
shift it. The dents on the sides will show you how it's used:
http://www.----------.com/hydrojack.jpg Of course, it never rains in
Kalifornia so working underwater is not a problem.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:--------------------
Steve wrote:
>
> Hi Mike,
>
> I'm never in the woods without the hilift. Saved my can several times.
> Ever try changing broken leaf spring ubolts & pin with a bottle jack?
> That said, I agree 100% with your statement below. These periodic
> discussions serve well to remind us how improper use or a momentarily
> lapse of prudence can be fatal.
>
> Steve
> http://xjeep.dyndns.org
#170
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Re: Highlift jack
Famous last words: "I am not sure that is a fact if the lever is
set to be raising the load"
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
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Jeff Strickland wrote:
>
> I agree with everything you have said relative to the safety of the HiLift
> Jack. I just think that it is a useful tool that people should carry and
> use, even if they must use it with caution.
>
> Pointing to a guy that did everything possible wrong with his jack does not
> point to problems with the jack, it points to problems with the idiot that
> is using it. As for dropping loads of less than 100 pounds, I am not sure
> that is a fact if the lever is set to be raising the load, it is certainly a
> fact when lowering the load. When they are working properly, you should be
> able to set the direction lever to raise the load, then pull the handle and
> raise the lifting mechanism, and the pins will ratchet as they go over the
> holes in the stalk. The lift will easily drop, sometimes drop unexpectedly,
> when the lever is set to lower the load but there is no load on the jack.
> When this happens, the lift could easily hit a foot and cause some serious
> pain. By the time the load weighs less than 100 pounds on the lift, it is
> already on the ground, so the falling load ought not be a problem in this
> case. Having said that, the load will never fall, unless the jack tips over,
> if the selector lever is set to raise the load. Another safety, for lack of
> a better word, first action that a user can employ is to tie the handle in
> the raised position. When the handle is raised, the pins are inserted into
> at least one hole, and if the handle can be locked in that position, it will
> not flail about and destroy everything within reach. HiLift supplies a
> wire-clamp that is supposed to hold the handle up when the load is raised.
> The operator is supposed to use the handle to raise his load, then leave the
> handle raised so that the wire-clamp is secured to the stalk of the jack. I
> am not sure, but I think that many people might take the wire clamp off
> thinking it serves no purpose. My clamp is damaged and I do not rely on it,
> so if I must leave my Jeep on the jack for any reason, I use a bungie cord
> or even some tape to hold the jack handle raised - this locks the lift
> mechanism in place until somebody comes along and lowers the handle. If the
> handle falls from this position on its own, that is when the handle will
> flail about wildly and harm everybody and everything within its reach.
>
> Whenever I take my HiLift off of its rack, I also pull out my can of WD40
> and spray the moving parts and fully exercise those parts before I try to
> use the jack. I have learned over the years that the pins can stick, mostly
> due to what I do to my jack for months on end between uses. My jack suffers
> through mud and water, then more water from washing the mud off, and I
> expect it to get sticky. WD40 returns it to serviceable condition in a
> matter of seconds, and when I take of on a planned trip, I will even do a PM
> service to my jack while I am still at home.
>
> I am not here to sell HiLifts, but as dangerous as they are, they have a
> place on the back of just about any Jeep. They can be a valuable tool
> despite the dangers they present.
>
> > Jeff Strickland wrote:
> > >
> > > His jack is broken.
> > >
> > > A properly working HiLift will never drop its load if the selector is
> set to
> > > the Raised position. There are two pins, and one of them is ALWAYS
> engaged
> > > in a hole when raising a load, while lowering the load, one of the pins
> is
> > > ALWAYS out of a hole, and this means the load can drop unexpectedly, and
> > > cause the handle to flail away at everything within its reach.
> > >
> > > The biggest danger of a HiLift is the load will shift when it is raised
> very
> > > high, and this shift can - and often does - cause the load to fall. When
> > > this happens, the jack falls over, the lifting mechanism does not drop.
> > >
> > > Personally, I think you need to lighten up a bit. Jeeping, particularly
> rock
> > > crawling, is a dangerous activity right out of the gate. If one is going
> to
> > > drive a vehicle at extreme angles and over stuff that was never intended
> to
> > > be driven over, then one is engaged in dangerous activity. Period. Using
> a
> > > HiLift is certainly a dangerous activity, no question about it but we
> arer
> > > already spending the entire weekend doing dangerous activities. The only
> > > application for a HiLift is to get a vehicle unstuck from rocks or
> stumps,
> > > where the vehicle needs to be lifted so something can be placed under a
> tire
> > > so the vehicle can proceed under its own power. I have often times
> lifted my
> > > Jeep on the HiLift, then slowly driven off of the HiLift, then gone back
> to
> > > get my jack. All I needed was to shift the weight from one corner to
> > > another, and the HiLift was the perfect tool for the goal. Yes, a HiLift
> is
> > > dangerous, but most offroading is dangerous.
> > >
> > > "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> > > news:419D3674.5E35AE95@sympatico.ca...
> > > > Another friend a couple months ago found out 'his' highlift will just
> > > > 'drop' to the ground if bumped right when in the 'up' mode. Almost
> took
> > > > his finger off when he was trying to reset it 'up' for storage.
> > > >
> > > > Who needs em?
> > > >
> > > > Some fool farmer got a Jeep and used that sucker for things it was
> never
> > > > designed for and everyone followed him like a heard of sheep.
> > > >
> > > > Mike
> > > >
> > > > JimG wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Exactly! Mike flunked Hi-Lift 101, you passed Jeff.
> > > > >
> > > > > JimG
> > > > >
> > > > > "Jeff Strickland" wrote in message ...
> > > > > > Mike is completely correct here, but the selector needs to be set
> to
> > > the
> > > > > > Lowering position. If the jack is set to raise the load, the
> handle
> > > will
> > > > > not
> > > > > > run away.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > "Mike Romain" wrote in message
> > > > > >...
> > > > > > > You just flunked 'highlift 101'.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > If you bump the damn thing slightly when up the handle can/will
> go
> > > > > > > ballistic all by it's self!
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Really!
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
set to be raising the load"
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Jeff Strickland wrote:
>
> I agree with everything you have said relative to the safety of the HiLift
> Jack. I just think that it is a useful tool that people should carry and
> use, even if they must use it with caution.
>
> Pointing to a guy that did everything possible wrong with his jack does not
> point to problems with the jack, it points to problems with the idiot that
> is using it. As for dropping loads of less than 100 pounds, I am not sure
> that is a fact if the lever is set to be raising the load, it is certainly a
> fact when lowering the load. When they are working properly, you should be
> able to set the direction lever to raise the load, then pull the handle and
> raise the lifting mechanism, and the pins will ratchet as they go over the
> holes in the stalk. The lift will easily drop, sometimes drop unexpectedly,
> when the lever is set to lower the load but there is no load on the jack.
> When this happens, the lift could easily hit a foot and cause some serious
> pain. By the time the load weighs less than 100 pounds on the lift, it is
> already on the ground, so the falling load ought not be a problem in this
> case. Having said that, the load will never fall, unless the jack tips over,
> if the selector lever is set to raise the load. Another safety, for lack of
> a better word, first action that a user can employ is to tie the handle in
> the raised position. When the handle is raised, the pins are inserted into
> at least one hole, and if the handle can be locked in that position, it will
> not flail about and destroy everything within reach. HiLift supplies a
> wire-clamp that is supposed to hold the handle up when the load is raised.
> The operator is supposed to use the handle to raise his load, then leave the
> handle raised so that the wire-clamp is secured to the stalk of the jack. I
> am not sure, but I think that many people might take the wire clamp off
> thinking it serves no purpose. My clamp is damaged and I do not rely on it,
> so if I must leave my Jeep on the jack for any reason, I use a bungie cord
> or even some tape to hold the jack handle raised - this locks the lift
> mechanism in place until somebody comes along and lowers the handle. If the
> handle falls from this position on its own, that is when the handle will
> flail about wildly and harm everybody and everything within its reach.
>
> Whenever I take my HiLift off of its rack, I also pull out my can of WD40
> and spray the moving parts and fully exercise those parts before I try to
> use the jack. I have learned over the years that the pins can stick, mostly
> due to what I do to my jack for months on end between uses. My jack suffers
> through mud and water, then more water from washing the mud off, and I
> expect it to get sticky. WD40 returns it to serviceable condition in a
> matter of seconds, and when I take of on a planned trip, I will even do a PM
> service to my jack while I am still at home.
>
> I am not here to sell HiLifts, but as dangerous as they are, they have a
> place on the back of just about any Jeep. They can be a valuable tool
> despite the dangers they present.
>
> > Jeff Strickland wrote:
> > >
> > > His jack is broken.
> > >
> > > A properly working HiLift will never drop its load if the selector is
> set to
> > > the Raised position. There are two pins, and one of them is ALWAYS
> engaged
> > > in a hole when raising a load, while lowering the load, one of the pins
> is
> > > ALWAYS out of a hole, and this means the load can drop unexpectedly, and
> > > cause the handle to flail away at everything within its reach.
> > >
> > > The biggest danger of a HiLift is the load will shift when it is raised
> very
> > > high, and this shift can - and often does - cause the load to fall. When
> > > this happens, the jack falls over, the lifting mechanism does not drop.
> > >
> > > Personally, I think you need to lighten up a bit. Jeeping, particularly
> rock
> > > crawling, is a dangerous activity right out of the gate. If one is going
> to
> > > drive a vehicle at extreme angles and over stuff that was never intended
> to
> > > be driven over, then one is engaged in dangerous activity. Period. Using
> a
> > > HiLift is certainly a dangerous activity, no question about it but we
> arer
> > > already spending the entire weekend doing dangerous activities. The only
> > > application for a HiLift is to get a vehicle unstuck from rocks or
> stumps,
> > > where the vehicle needs to be lifted so something can be placed under a
> tire
> > > so the vehicle can proceed under its own power. I have often times
> lifted my
> > > Jeep on the HiLift, then slowly driven off of the HiLift, then gone back
> to
> > > get my jack. All I needed was to shift the weight from one corner to
> > > another, and the HiLift was the perfect tool for the goal. Yes, a HiLift
> is
> > > dangerous, but most offroading is dangerous.
> > >
> > > "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> > > news:419D3674.5E35AE95@sympatico.ca...
> > > > Another friend a couple months ago found out 'his' highlift will just
> > > > 'drop' to the ground if bumped right when in the 'up' mode. Almost
> took
> > > > his finger off when he was trying to reset it 'up' for storage.
> > > >
> > > > Who needs em?
> > > >
> > > > Some fool farmer got a Jeep and used that sucker for things it was
> never
> > > > designed for and everyone followed him like a heard of sheep.
> > > >
> > > > Mike
> > > >
> > > > JimG wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Exactly! Mike flunked Hi-Lift 101, you passed Jeff.
> > > > >
> > > > > JimG
> > > > >
> > > > > "Jeff Strickland" wrote in message ...
> > > > > > Mike is completely correct here, but the selector needs to be set
> to
> > > the
> > > > > > Lowering position. If the jack is set to raise the load, the
> handle
> > > will
> > > > > not
> > > > > > run away.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > "Mike Romain" wrote in message
> > > > > >...
> > > > > > > You just flunked 'highlift 101'.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > If you bump the damn thing slightly when up the handle can/will
> go
> > > > > > > ballistic all by it's self!
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Really!
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >