Highlift jack
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Re: Highlift jack
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#132
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Re: Highlift jack
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#133
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Re: Highlift jack
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#134
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Re: Highlift jack
There you go with another one 'needing' the stupid thing and not even
reading the directions....
He was really lucky, it came down fast and hard.
Mike
Jerry Bransford wrote:
>
> The Hi-Lift's instructions include a warning that if there is not at
> least 100 lbs on the jack, it can drop to the ground when the lever is
> in the 'Up' position. I continue carrying my Hi-Lift, just in case, but
> I sure treat it as strictly a tool of last-resort. It's just an
> accident waiting to happen..
>
> Jerry
> --
> Jerry Bransford
> PP-ASEL N6TAY
> See the Geezer Jeep at
> http://members.***.net/jerrypb/
>
> Mike Romain wrote:
> > Another friend a couple months ago found out 'his' highlift will just
> > 'drop' to the ground if bumped right when in the 'up' mode. Almost took
> > his finger off when he was trying to reset it 'up' for storage.
> >
> > Who needs em?
> >
> > Some fool farmer got a Jeep and used that sucker for things it was never
> > designed for and everyone followed him like a heard of sheep.
> >
> > Mike
> >
> > JimG wrote:
> >
> >>Exactly! Mike flunked Hi-Lift 101, you passed Jeff.
> >>
> >>JimG
> >>
> >>"Jeff Strickland" wrote in message ...
> >>
> >>>Mike is completely correct here, but the selector needs to be set to the
> >>>Lowering position. If the jack is set to raise the load, the handle will
> >>
> >>not
> >>
> >>>run away.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>"Mike Romain" wrote in message
> >>>...
> >>>
> >>>>You just flunked 'highlift 101'.
> >>>>
> >>>>If you bump the damn thing slightly when up the handle can/will go
> >>>>ballistic all by it's self!
> >>>>
> >>>>Really!
> >>>>
> >>>
reading the directions....
He was really lucky, it came down fast and hard.
Mike
Jerry Bransford wrote:
>
> The Hi-Lift's instructions include a warning that if there is not at
> least 100 lbs on the jack, it can drop to the ground when the lever is
> in the 'Up' position. I continue carrying my Hi-Lift, just in case, but
> I sure treat it as strictly a tool of last-resort. It's just an
> accident waiting to happen..
>
> Jerry
> --
> Jerry Bransford
> PP-ASEL N6TAY
> See the Geezer Jeep at
> http://members.***.net/jerrypb/
>
> Mike Romain wrote:
> > Another friend a couple months ago found out 'his' highlift will just
> > 'drop' to the ground if bumped right when in the 'up' mode. Almost took
> > his finger off when he was trying to reset it 'up' for storage.
> >
> > Who needs em?
> >
> > Some fool farmer got a Jeep and used that sucker for things it was never
> > designed for and everyone followed him like a heard of sheep.
> >
> > Mike
> >
> > JimG wrote:
> >
> >>Exactly! Mike flunked Hi-Lift 101, you passed Jeff.
> >>
> >>JimG
> >>
> >>"Jeff Strickland" wrote in message ...
> >>
> >>>Mike is completely correct here, but the selector needs to be set to the
> >>>Lowering position. If the jack is set to raise the load, the handle will
> >>
> >>not
> >>
> >>>run away.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>"Mike Romain" wrote in message
> >>>...
> >>>
> >>>>You just flunked 'highlift 101'.
> >>>>
> >>>>If you bump the damn thing slightly when up the handle can/will go
> >>>>ballistic all by it's self!
> >>>>
> >>>>Really!
> >>>>
> >>>
#135
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Re: Highlift jack
There you go with another one 'needing' the stupid thing and not even
reading the directions....
He was really lucky, it came down fast and hard.
Mike
Jerry Bransford wrote:
>
> The Hi-Lift's instructions include a warning that if there is not at
> least 100 lbs on the jack, it can drop to the ground when the lever is
> in the 'Up' position. I continue carrying my Hi-Lift, just in case, but
> I sure treat it as strictly a tool of last-resort. It's just an
> accident waiting to happen..
>
> Jerry
> --
> Jerry Bransford
> PP-ASEL N6TAY
> See the Geezer Jeep at
> http://members.***.net/jerrypb/
>
> Mike Romain wrote:
> > Another friend a couple months ago found out 'his' highlift will just
> > 'drop' to the ground if bumped right when in the 'up' mode. Almost took
> > his finger off when he was trying to reset it 'up' for storage.
> >
> > Who needs em?
> >
> > Some fool farmer got a Jeep and used that sucker for things it was never
> > designed for and everyone followed him like a heard of sheep.
> >
> > Mike
> >
> > JimG wrote:
> >
> >>Exactly! Mike flunked Hi-Lift 101, you passed Jeff.
> >>
> >>JimG
> >>
> >>"Jeff Strickland" wrote in message ...
> >>
> >>>Mike is completely correct here, but the selector needs to be set to the
> >>>Lowering position. If the jack is set to raise the load, the handle will
> >>
> >>not
> >>
> >>>run away.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>"Mike Romain" wrote in message
> >>>...
> >>>
> >>>>You just flunked 'highlift 101'.
> >>>>
> >>>>If you bump the damn thing slightly when up the handle can/will go
> >>>>ballistic all by it's self!
> >>>>
> >>>>Really!
> >>>>
> >>>
reading the directions....
He was really lucky, it came down fast and hard.
Mike
Jerry Bransford wrote:
>
> The Hi-Lift's instructions include a warning that if there is not at
> least 100 lbs on the jack, it can drop to the ground when the lever is
> in the 'Up' position. I continue carrying my Hi-Lift, just in case, but
> I sure treat it as strictly a tool of last-resort. It's just an
> accident waiting to happen..
>
> Jerry
> --
> Jerry Bransford
> PP-ASEL N6TAY
> See the Geezer Jeep at
> http://members.***.net/jerrypb/
>
> Mike Romain wrote:
> > Another friend a couple months ago found out 'his' highlift will just
> > 'drop' to the ground if bumped right when in the 'up' mode. Almost took
> > his finger off when he was trying to reset it 'up' for storage.
> >
> > Who needs em?
> >
> > Some fool farmer got a Jeep and used that sucker for things it was never
> > designed for and everyone followed him like a heard of sheep.
> >
> > Mike
> >
> > JimG wrote:
> >
> >>Exactly! Mike flunked Hi-Lift 101, you passed Jeff.
> >>
> >>JimG
> >>
> >>"Jeff Strickland" wrote in message ...
> >>
> >>>Mike is completely correct here, but the selector needs to be set to the
> >>>Lowering position. If the jack is set to raise the load, the handle will
> >>
> >>not
> >>
> >>>run away.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>"Mike Romain" wrote in message
> >>>...
> >>>
> >>>>You just flunked 'highlift 101'.
> >>>>
> >>>>If you bump the damn thing slightly when up the handle can/will go
> >>>>ballistic all by it's self!
> >>>>
> >>>>Really!
> >>>>
> >>>
#136
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Posts: n/a
Re: Highlift jack
There you go with another one 'needing' the stupid thing and not even
reading the directions....
He was really lucky, it came down fast and hard.
Mike
Jerry Bransford wrote:
>
> The Hi-Lift's instructions include a warning that if there is not at
> least 100 lbs on the jack, it can drop to the ground when the lever is
> in the 'Up' position. I continue carrying my Hi-Lift, just in case, but
> I sure treat it as strictly a tool of last-resort. It's just an
> accident waiting to happen..
>
> Jerry
> --
> Jerry Bransford
> PP-ASEL N6TAY
> See the Geezer Jeep at
> http://members.***.net/jerrypb/
>
> Mike Romain wrote:
> > Another friend a couple months ago found out 'his' highlift will just
> > 'drop' to the ground if bumped right when in the 'up' mode. Almost took
> > his finger off when he was trying to reset it 'up' for storage.
> >
> > Who needs em?
> >
> > Some fool farmer got a Jeep and used that sucker for things it was never
> > designed for and everyone followed him like a heard of sheep.
> >
> > Mike
> >
> > JimG wrote:
> >
> >>Exactly! Mike flunked Hi-Lift 101, you passed Jeff.
> >>
> >>JimG
> >>
> >>"Jeff Strickland" wrote in message ...
> >>
> >>>Mike is completely correct here, but the selector needs to be set to the
> >>>Lowering position. If the jack is set to raise the load, the handle will
> >>
> >>not
> >>
> >>>run away.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>"Mike Romain" wrote in message
> >>>...
> >>>
> >>>>You just flunked 'highlift 101'.
> >>>>
> >>>>If you bump the damn thing slightly when up the handle can/will go
> >>>>ballistic all by it's self!
> >>>>
> >>>>Really!
> >>>>
> >>>
reading the directions....
He was really lucky, it came down fast and hard.
Mike
Jerry Bransford wrote:
>
> The Hi-Lift's instructions include a warning that if there is not at
> least 100 lbs on the jack, it can drop to the ground when the lever is
> in the 'Up' position. I continue carrying my Hi-Lift, just in case, but
> I sure treat it as strictly a tool of last-resort. It's just an
> accident waiting to happen..
>
> Jerry
> --
> Jerry Bransford
> PP-ASEL N6TAY
> See the Geezer Jeep at
> http://members.***.net/jerrypb/
>
> Mike Romain wrote:
> > Another friend a couple months ago found out 'his' highlift will just
> > 'drop' to the ground if bumped right when in the 'up' mode. Almost took
> > his finger off when he was trying to reset it 'up' for storage.
> >
> > Who needs em?
> >
> > Some fool farmer got a Jeep and used that sucker for things it was never
> > designed for and everyone followed him like a heard of sheep.
> >
> > Mike
> >
> > JimG wrote:
> >
> >>Exactly! Mike flunked Hi-Lift 101, you passed Jeff.
> >>
> >>JimG
> >>
> >>"Jeff Strickland" wrote in message ...
> >>
> >>>Mike is completely correct here, but the selector needs to be set to the
> >>>Lowering position. If the jack is set to raise the load, the handle will
> >>
> >>not
> >>
> >>>run away.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>"Mike Romain" wrote in message
> >>>...
> >>>
> >>>>You just flunked 'highlift 101'.
> >>>>
> >>>>If you bump the damn thing slightly when up the handle can/will go
> >>>>ballistic all by it's self!
> >>>>
> >>>>Really!
> >>>>
> >>>
#137
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Re: Highlift jack
I was raised around these things on ranches and farms where they do
have legitimate uses and I have a simple test for you to try. Get
something heavy - a Jeep might do it, but Im remembering and old
Farmall tractor. Jack the load off the ground an inch or two, then
miss a hole with locking spur as you jack. Something like mud in the
works will cause this fairly often, but if it slips that first notch
(or you don't quite get it far enought) you damned sure don't want to
be within striking distance when it slips that first notch. The
position of the selector makes not one bit of difference from that
point on. Those things haven't changed since I saw my first one in
the 1940's - dangerous then, dangerous now. Useful as hell when
nothing better will work but I spend a lot of time evaluating
alternatives every time I pull mine out.
On Thu, 18 Nov 2004 23:10:42 UTC "JimG" <jimg@2muchspam.com> wrote:
> Wrong again!
>
> Only if the selector is set for lowering and you let go of the handle, will
> it go ballistic. All of these particulars are covered in Hi-Lift 101,
> Lesson 1.
>
> Again... to each his own. :-)
>
--
Will Honea
have legitimate uses and I have a simple test for you to try. Get
something heavy - a Jeep might do it, but Im remembering and old
Farmall tractor. Jack the load off the ground an inch or two, then
miss a hole with locking spur as you jack. Something like mud in the
works will cause this fairly often, but if it slips that first notch
(or you don't quite get it far enought) you damned sure don't want to
be within striking distance when it slips that first notch. The
position of the selector makes not one bit of difference from that
point on. Those things haven't changed since I saw my first one in
the 1940's - dangerous then, dangerous now. Useful as hell when
nothing better will work but I spend a lot of time evaluating
alternatives every time I pull mine out.
On Thu, 18 Nov 2004 23:10:42 UTC "JimG" <jimg@2muchspam.com> wrote:
> Wrong again!
>
> Only if the selector is set for lowering and you let go of the handle, will
> it go ballistic. All of these particulars are covered in Hi-Lift 101,
> Lesson 1.
>
> Again... to each his own. :-)
>
--
Will Honea
#138
Guest
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Re: Highlift jack
I was raised around these things on ranches and farms where they do
have legitimate uses and I have a simple test for you to try. Get
something heavy - a Jeep might do it, but Im remembering and old
Farmall tractor. Jack the load off the ground an inch or two, then
miss a hole with locking spur as you jack. Something like mud in the
works will cause this fairly often, but if it slips that first notch
(or you don't quite get it far enought) you damned sure don't want to
be within striking distance when it slips that first notch. The
position of the selector makes not one bit of difference from that
point on. Those things haven't changed since I saw my first one in
the 1940's - dangerous then, dangerous now. Useful as hell when
nothing better will work but I spend a lot of time evaluating
alternatives every time I pull mine out.
On Thu, 18 Nov 2004 23:10:42 UTC "JimG" <jimg@2muchspam.com> wrote:
> Wrong again!
>
> Only if the selector is set for lowering and you let go of the handle, will
> it go ballistic. All of these particulars are covered in Hi-Lift 101,
> Lesson 1.
>
> Again... to each his own. :-)
>
--
Will Honea
have legitimate uses and I have a simple test for you to try. Get
something heavy - a Jeep might do it, but Im remembering and old
Farmall tractor. Jack the load off the ground an inch or two, then
miss a hole with locking spur as you jack. Something like mud in the
works will cause this fairly often, but if it slips that first notch
(or you don't quite get it far enought) you damned sure don't want to
be within striking distance when it slips that first notch. The
position of the selector makes not one bit of difference from that
point on. Those things haven't changed since I saw my first one in
the 1940's - dangerous then, dangerous now. Useful as hell when
nothing better will work but I spend a lot of time evaluating
alternatives every time I pull mine out.
On Thu, 18 Nov 2004 23:10:42 UTC "JimG" <jimg@2muchspam.com> wrote:
> Wrong again!
>
> Only if the selector is set for lowering and you let go of the handle, will
> it go ballistic. All of these particulars are covered in Hi-Lift 101,
> Lesson 1.
>
> Again... to each his own. :-)
>
--
Will Honea
#139
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Highlift jack
I was raised around these things on ranches and farms where they do
have legitimate uses and I have a simple test for you to try. Get
something heavy - a Jeep might do it, but Im remembering and old
Farmall tractor. Jack the load off the ground an inch or two, then
miss a hole with locking spur as you jack. Something like mud in the
works will cause this fairly often, but if it slips that first notch
(or you don't quite get it far enought) you damned sure don't want to
be within striking distance when it slips that first notch. The
position of the selector makes not one bit of difference from that
point on. Those things haven't changed since I saw my first one in
the 1940's - dangerous then, dangerous now. Useful as hell when
nothing better will work but I spend a lot of time evaluating
alternatives every time I pull mine out.
On Thu, 18 Nov 2004 23:10:42 UTC "JimG" <jimg@2muchspam.com> wrote:
> Wrong again!
>
> Only if the selector is set for lowering and you let go of the handle, will
> it go ballistic. All of these particulars are covered in Hi-Lift 101,
> Lesson 1.
>
> Again... to each his own. :-)
>
--
Will Honea
have legitimate uses and I have a simple test for you to try. Get
something heavy - a Jeep might do it, but Im remembering and old
Farmall tractor. Jack the load off the ground an inch or two, then
miss a hole with locking spur as you jack. Something like mud in the
works will cause this fairly often, but if it slips that first notch
(or you don't quite get it far enought) you damned sure don't want to
be within striking distance when it slips that first notch. The
position of the selector makes not one bit of difference from that
point on. Those things haven't changed since I saw my first one in
the 1940's - dangerous then, dangerous now. Useful as hell when
nothing better will work but I spend a lot of time evaluating
alternatives every time I pull mine out.
On Thu, 18 Nov 2004 23:10:42 UTC "JimG" <jimg@2muchspam.com> wrote:
> Wrong again!
>
> Only if the selector is set for lowering and you let go of the handle, will
> it go ballistic. All of these particulars are covered in Hi-Lift 101,
> Lesson 1.
>
> Again... to each his own. :-)
>
--
Will Honea
#140
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Re: Highlift jack
His jack is broken.
A properly working HiLift will never drop its load if the selector is set to
the Raised position. There are two pins, and one of them is ALWAYS engaged
in a hole when raising a load, while lowering the load, one of the pins is
ALWAYS out of a hole, and this means the load can drop unexpectedly, and
cause the handle to flail away at everything within its reach.
The biggest danger of a HiLift is the load will shift when it is raised very
high, and this shift can - and often does - cause the load to fall. When
this happens, the jack falls over, the lifting mechanism does not drop.
Personally, I think you need to lighten up a bit. Jeeping, particularly rock
crawling, is a dangerous activity right out of the gate. If one is going to
drive a vehicle at extreme angles and over stuff that was never intended to
be driven over, then one is engaged in dangerous activity. Period. Using a
HiLift is certainly a dangerous activity, no question about it but we arer
already spending the entire weekend doing dangerous activities. The only
application for a HiLift is to get a vehicle unstuck from rocks or stumps,
where the vehicle needs to be lifted so something can be placed under a tire
so the vehicle can proceed under its own power. I have often times lifted my
Jeep on the HiLift, then slowly driven off of the HiLift, then gone back to
get my jack. All I needed was to shift the weight from one corner to
another, and the HiLift was the perfect tool for the goal. Yes, a HiLift is
dangerous, but most offroading is dangerous.
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:419D3674.5E35AE95@sympatico.ca...
> Another friend a couple months ago found out 'his' highlift will just
> 'drop' to the ground if bumped right when in the 'up' mode. Almost took
> his finger off when he was trying to reset it 'up' for storage.
>
> Who needs em?
>
> Some fool farmer got a Jeep and used that sucker for things it was never
> designed for and everyone followed him like a heard of sheep.
>
> Mike
>
> JimG wrote:
> >
> > Exactly! Mike flunked Hi-Lift 101, you passed Jeff.
> >
> > JimG
> >
> > "Jeff Strickland" wrote in message ...
> > > Mike is completely correct here, but the selector needs to be set to
the
> > > Lowering position. If the jack is set to raise the load, the handle
will
> > not
> > > run away.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > "Mike Romain" wrote in message
> > >...
> > > > You just flunked 'highlift 101'.
> > > >
> > > > If you bump the damn thing slightly when up the handle can/will go
> > > > ballistic all by it's self!
> > > >
> > > > Really!
> > > >
> > >
A properly working HiLift will never drop its load if the selector is set to
the Raised position. There are two pins, and one of them is ALWAYS engaged
in a hole when raising a load, while lowering the load, one of the pins is
ALWAYS out of a hole, and this means the load can drop unexpectedly, and
cause the handle to flail away at everything within its reach.
The biggest danger of a HiLift is the load will shift when it is raised very
high, and this shift can - and often does - cause the load to fall. When
this happens, the jack falls over, the lifting mechanism does not drop.
Personally, I think you need to lighten up a bit. Jeeping, particularly rock
crawling, is a dangerous activity right out of the gate. If one is going to
drive a vehicle at extreme angles and over stuff that was never intended to
be driven over, then one is engaged in dangerous activity. Period. Using a
HiLift is certainly a dangerous activity, no question about it but we arer
already spending the entire weekend doing dangerous activities. The only
application for a HiLift is to get a vehicle unstuck from rocks or stumps,
where the vehicle needs to be lifted so something can be placed under a tire
so the vehicle can proceed under its own power. I have often times lifted my
Jeep on the HiLift, then slowly driven off of the HiLift, then gone back to
get my jack. All I needed was to shift the weight from one corner to
another, and the HiLift was the perfect tool for the goal. Yes, a HiLift is
dangerous, but most offroading is dangerous.
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:419D3674.5E35AE95@sympatico.ca...
> Another friend a couple months ago found out 'his' highlift will just
> 'drop' to the ground if bumped right when in the 'up' mode. Almost took
> his finger off when he was trying to reset it 'up' for storage.
>
> Who needs em?
>
> Some fool farmer got a Jeep and used that sucker for things it was never
> designed for and everyone followed him like a heard of sheep.
>
> Mike
>
> JimG wrote:
> >
> > Exactly! Mike flunked Hi-Lift 101, you passed Jeff.
> >
> > JimG
> >
> > "Jeff Strickland" wrote in message ...
> > > Mike is completely correct here, but the selector needs to be set to
the
> > > Lowering position. If the jack is set to raise the load, the handle
will
> > not
> > > run away.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > "Mike Romain" wrote in message
> > >...
> > > > You just flunked 'highlift 101'.
> > > >
> > > > If you bump the damn thing slightly when up the handle can/will go
> > > > ballistic all by it's self!
> > > >
> > > > Really!
> > > >
> > >