Hi-Lift Jack Thread
#61
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Re: Hi-Lift Jack Thread
You said it right there... "up and not attended".
Eric
99 TJ SE
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:41CD7D83.AFC947B7@sympatico.ca...
> The last 2 I saw do bad things were new. One went insane when up and
> not attended, (guy had to let go to hook up a chain) that one almost
> removed the side of my face and the other one just dropped 18" almost
> taking the gent's foot and finger off.
>
> A buddy's dad worked for the railroad and he showed/taught us about
> those things back in the 60's. He was good and showed us all the ways
> they can screw up before letting us near one.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>
> Eric wrote:
>>
>> Let me say, though, of all the stories of when someone was using the
>> hilift
>> as it was intended, but was maimed/killed/almost xxx, it seems there were
>> extra circumstances. 1) The most common is: I was distracted.. or I took
>> my
>> hand off the handle for just a minute... or I turned to do this... seems
>> to
>> me if they had been focused on the task at hand and handling the jack,
>> that
>> wouldn't have happened. 2) The condition of the jack was never clear.
>> Was
>> it mounted on the outside of the vehicle and exposed to the elements all
>> the
>> time? Was it really old? and 3) How experienced was the user?
>>
>> You can bet I won't take my eyes/hands/focus off the jack for a second
>> while
>> I'm using it. If I am in a situation that I had to, then I'll wait for
>> someone else to handle what would require my attention. I also will only
>> mount my jack inside the cab (behind the rollbars). That will keep the
>> elements off it. If I'm going to have the top down, I'll put it in a
>> bag.
>> Also, I can guarantee I won't use this without learning how to use it
>> properly first. I'll definitely get some experienced people to give me a
>> hand if/when I use it the first couple of times.
>>
>> Ok, I'm off my soapbox now... ;-)
>>
>> HAPPY HO-HO TO EVERYONE!!!
>>
>> Eric
>> 99 TJ SE
>> "Jersey" <IamHellbound@nospam.comcast.net> wrote in message
>> news:5_GdnXNBObTlOFHcRVn-tg@comcast.com...
>> >
>> > "Eric" <gymrat@baileyscorner.com> wrote in message
>> > news:uv%yd.4677$3v5.3617@fe2.texas.rr.com...
>> >> Like everyone else said, the hilift shouldn't be used to change tires.
>> >> That isn't its intedend use. I have 33's and a 4" lift and I'm fairly
>> >> certain my stock bottle jack will still assist me in changing a tire.
>> >>
>> >> Eric
>> >> 99 TJ SE
>> >
>> > Thanx for the input, guess I'll dig around the garage. I'm sure I have
>> > an
>> > old
>> > scissor & a couple good size bottle jacks out there.
>> >
>> > L8r - George
>> >
>> >
Eric
99 TJ SE
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:41CD7D83.AFC947B7@sympatico.ca...
> The last 2 I saw do bad things were new. One went insane when up and
> not attended, (guy had to let go to hook up a chain) that one almost
> removed the side of my face and the other one just dropped 18" almost
> taking the gent's foot and finger off.
>
> A buddy's dad worked for the railroad and he showed/taught us about
> those things back in the 60's. He was good and showed us all the ways
> they can screw up before letting us near one.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>
> Eric wrote:
>>
>> Let me say, though, of all the stories of when someone was using the
>> hilift
>> as it was intended, but was maimed/killed/almost xxx, it seems there were
>> extra circumstances. 1) The most common is: I was distracted.. or I took
>> my
>> hand off the handle for just a minute... or I turned to do this... seems
>> to
>> me if they had been focused on the task at hand and handling the jack,
>> that
>> wouldn't have happened. 2) The condition of the jack was never clear.
>> Was
>> it mounted on the outside of the vehicle and exposed to the elements all
>> the
>> time? Was it really old? and 3) How experienced was the user?
>>
>> You can bet I won't take my eyes/hands/focus off the jack for a second
>> while
>> I'm using it. If I am in a situation that I had to, then I'll wait for
>> someone else to handle what would require my attention. I also will only
>> mount my jack inside the cab (behind the rollbars). That will keep the
>> elements off it. If I'm going to have the top down, I'll put it in a
>> bag.
>> Also, I can guarantee I won't use this without learning how to use it
>> properly first. I'll definitely get some experienced people to give me a
>> hand if/when I use it the first couple of times.
>>
>> Ok, I'm off my soapbox now... ;-)
>>
>> HAPPY HO-HO TO EVERYONE!!!
>>
>> Eric
>> 99 TJ SE
>> "Jersey" <IamHellbound@nospam.comcast.net> wrote in message
>> news:5_GdnXNBObTlOFHcRVn-tg@comcast.com...
>> >
>> > "Eric" <gymrat@baileyscorner.com> wrote in message
>> > news:uv%yd.4677$3v5.3617@fe2.texas.rr.com...
>> >> Like everyone else said, the hilift shouldn't be used to change tires.
>> >> That isn't its intedend use. I have 33's and a 4" lift and I'm fairly
>> >> certain my stock bottle jack will still assist me in changing a tire.
>> >>
>> >> Eric
>> >> 99 TJ SE
>> >
>> > Thanx for the input, guess I'll dig around the garage. I'm sure I have
>> > an
>> > old
>> > scissor & a couple good size bottle jacks out there.
>> >
>> > L8r - George
>> >
>> >
#62
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Re: Hi-Lift Jack Thread
Yes, you're right. Things CAN happen. And yes, it CAN be dangerous. But
so are a lot of other things -- power tools (saws, etc), motorcycles (which
I love to ride), etc. With the proper training and care, you can use these
tools to their fullest extent while minimizing (but not eliminating) the
risks.
Eric
99 TJ SE
"griffin" <gryffy@DELTHISshaw.ca> wrote in message
news:1p6zd.561566$Pl.365875@pd7tw1no...
> Easy to say but there's no gaurantee of this. Say you've lifted the Jeep
> and
> are focusing intently on the operation. Your Jeep is in a precarious
> situation on the rocks and the strain on the suspension causes one of the
> springs to break ...or even just to make a loud & sudden noise ...your
> body
> will reflexively not only look but your hands and body will probably move
> somewhat. Now your attention is diverted and you may have momentarily let
> go
> of the Jack in the middle of a crank ...
>
> Even taking that situation a little furthur ...if a spring or something
> did
> break and the Jeep shifted, that could cause just as much of a problem (if
> not worse) and wouldn't be the operators fault at all. However you look at
> it, the Hilift is a potentially very dangerous tool and the operator and
> all
> bystanders should be well aware of these risks and not assume for a second
> that they are 100% safe.
>
>> You can bet I won't take my eyes/hands/focus off the jack for a second
> while
>> I'm using it.
>
>
so are a lot of other things -- power tools (saws, etc), motorcycles (which
I love to ride), etc. With the proper training and care, you can use these
tools to their fullest extent while minimizing (but not eliminating) the
risks.
Eric
99 TJ SE
"griffin" <gryffy@DELTHISshaw.ca> wrote in message
news:1p6zd.561566$Pl.365875@pd7tw1no...
> Easy to say but there's no gaurantee of this. Say you've lifted the Jeep
> and
> are focusing intently on the operation. Your Jeep is in a precarious
> situation on the rocks and the strain on the suspension causes one of the
> springs to break ...or even just to make a loud & sudden noise ...your
> body
> will reflexively not only look but your hands and body will probably move
> somewhat. Now your attention is diverted and you may have momentarily let
> go
> of the Jack in the middle of a crank ...
>
> Even taking that situation a little furthur ...if a spring or something
> did
> break and the Jeep shifted, that could cause just as much of a problem (if
> not worse) and wouldn't be the operators fault at all. However you look at
> it, the Hilift is a potentially very dangerous tool and the operator and
> all
> bystanders should be well aware of these risks and not assume for a second
> that they are 100% safe.
>
>> You can bet I won't take my eyes/hands/focus off the jack for a second
> while
>> I'm using it.
>
>
#63
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Re: Hi-Lift Jack Thread
Yes, you're right. Things CAN happen. And yes, it CAN be dangerous. But
so are a lot of other things -- power tools (saws, etc), motorcycles (which
I love to ride), etc. With the proper training and care, you can use these
tools to their fullest extent while minimizing (but not eliminating) the
risks.
Eric
99 TJ SE
"griffin" <gryffy@DELTHISshaw.ca> wrote in message
news:1p6zd.561566$Pl.365875@pd7tw1no...
> Easy to say but there's no gaurantee of this. Say you've lifted the Jeep
> and
> are focusing intently on the operation. Your Jeep is in a precarious
> situation on the rocks and the strain on the suspension causes one of the
> springs to break ...or even just to make a loud & sudden noise ...your
> body
> will reflexively not only look but your hands and body will probably move
> somewhat. Now your attention is diverted and you may have momentarily let
> go
> of the Jack in the middle of a crank ...
>
> Even taking that situation a little furthur ...if a spring or something
> did
> break and the Jeep shifted, that could cause just as much of a problem (if
> not worse) and wouldn't be the operators fault at all. However you look at
> it, the Hilift is a potentially very dangerous tool and the operator and
> all
> bystanders should be well aware of these risks and not assume for a second
> that they are 100% safe.
>
>> You can bet I won't take my eyes/hands/focus off the jack for a second
> while
>> I'm using it.
>
>
so are a lot of other things -- power tools (saws, etc), motorcycles (which
I love to ride), etc. With the proper training and care, you can use these
tools to their fullest extent while minimizing (but not eliminating) the
risks.
Eric
99 TJ SE
"griffin" <gryffy@DELTHISshaw.ca> wrote in message
news:1p6zd.561566$Pl.365875@pd7tw1no...
> Easy to say but there's no gaurantee of this. Say you've lifted the Jeep
> and
> are focusing intently on the operation. Your Jeep is in a precarious
> situation on the rocks and the strain on the suspension causes one of the
> springs to break ...or even just to make a loud & sudden noise ...your
> body
> will reflexively not only look but your hands and body will probably move
> somewhat. Now your attention is diverted and you may have momentarily let
> go
> of the Jack in the middle of a crank ...
>
> Even taking that situation a little furthur ...if a spring or something
> did
> break and the Jeep shifted, that could cause just as much of a problem (if
> not worse) and wouldn't be the operators fault at all. However you look at
> it, the Hilift is a potentially very dangerous tool and the operator and
> all
> bystanders should be well aware of these risks and not assume for a second
> that they are 100% safe.
>
>> You can bet I won't take my eyes/hands/focus off the jack for a second
> while
>> I'm using it.
>
>
#64
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Posts: n/a
Re: Hi-Lift Jack Thread
Yes, you're right. Things CAN happen. And yes, it CAN be dangerous. But
so are a lot of other things -- power tools (saws, etc), motorcycles (which
I love to ride), etc. With the proper training and care, you can use these
tools to their fullest extent while minimizing (but not eliminating) the
risks.
Eric
99 TJ SE
"griffin" <gryffy@DELTHISshaw.ca> wrote in message
news:1p6zd.561566$Pl.365875@pd7tw1no...
> Easy to say but there's no gaurantee of this. Say you've lifted the Jeep
> and
> are focusing intently on the operation. Your Jeep is in a precarious
> situation on the rocks and the strain on the suspension causes one of the
> springs to break ...or even just to make a loud & sudden noise ...your
> body
> will reflexively not only look but your hands and body will probably move
> somewhat. Now your attention is diverted and you may have momentarily let
> go
> of the Jack in the middle of a crank ...
>
> Even taking that situation a little furthur ...if a spring or something
> did
> break and the Jeep shifted, that could cause just as much of a problem (if
> not worse) and wouldn't be the operators fault at all. However you look at
> it, the Hilift is a potentially very dangerous tool and the operator and
> all
> bystanders should be well aware of these risks and not assume for a second
> that they are 100% safe.
>
>> You can bet I won't take my eyes/hands/focus off the jack for a second
> while
>> I'm using it.
>
>
so are a lot of other things -- power tools (saws, etc), motorcycles (which
I love to ride), etc. With the proper training and care, you can use these
tools to their fullest extent while minimizing (but not eliminating) the
risks.
Eric
99 TJ SE
"griffin" <gryffy@DELTHISshaw.ca> wrote in message
news:1p6zd.561566$Pl.365875@pd7tw1no...
> Easy to say but there's no gaurantee of this. Say you've lifted the Jeep
> and
> are focusing intently on the operation. Your Jeep is in a precarious
> situation on the rocks and the strain on the suspension causes one of the
> springs to break ...or even just to make a loud & sudden noise ...your
> body
> will reflexively not only look but your hands and body will probably move
> somewhat. Now your attention is diverted and you may have momentarily let
> go
> of the Jack in the middle of a crank ...
>
> Even taking that situation a little furthur ...if a spring or something
> did
> break and the Jeep shifted, that could cause just as much of a problem (if
> not worse) and wouldn't be the operators fault at all. However you look at
> it, the Hilift is a potentially very dangerous tool and the operator and
> all
> bystanders should be well aware of these risks and not assume for a second
> that they are 100% safe.
>
>> You can bet I won't take my eyes/hands/focus off the jack for a second
> while
>> I'm using it.
>
>
#65
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Re: Hi-Lift Jack Thread
Dangerous, yes, but even the old bumper jack wasn't in the same class
as a highlift when it came to potential.
Hey! the highlift is a tool. It has it's uses and place in the scheme
of things so use when necessary and in a manner that keeps you as safe
as possible. I can't do anything to help the stability of the one I
have but I can sure put a bolt or screwdriver thru the holes to keep
it from running away on me. BTW - consider the case where it's a one
man operation and try to figure out how you are going to maintain
control of the jack AND get some else (useful) done.
On Sat, 25 Dec 2004 19:50:11 UTC L.W.(ßill) ------ III
<----------@***.net> wrote:
> Hi George,
> In the fifties we had to use the dangerous bumper jack to jack the
> car up high enough for the tire to clear the fender skirts:
> http://www.nls.net/mp/mikemonett/Nash52/Nash52.htm
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Jersey wrote:
> >
> > Ya know come to think, I'm old enough to remember when that was the (standard)
> > type of jack that came with all cars & trucks & they did the job but I also remember
> > wondering if the thing was going to go flying or slip out from under the car. Also it's
> > real easy to get caught up in the moment while changing a flat (or getting yourself
> > outa a swamp-hole which may just be the case down here in Florida) but you do get
> > caught up & find your self doing things that you wouldn't normally do. To get my Jeep's
> > blowout changed the other day we did a couple things that weren't very safe & I remember
> > that I even commented that "I was sure OSHA wouldn't approve of this." But when
> > your on the side of the road & traffic is flying by & your half on the road, half off or close
> > to a ditch, sand all over & pieces of tires, nut, bolts, broken bottles, beer cans & other
> > assorted roadside trash you're not thinking safety so much as you might be thinking
> > what's the quickest way to get this tire changed & get the hell outa here. I guess
> > there's always AAA..........................
> >
> > Happy Holidays Ya'll - George
--
Will Honea
as a highlift when it came to potential.
Hey! the highlift is a tool. It has it's uses and place in the scheme
of things so use when necessary and in a manner that keeps you as safe
as possible. I can't do anything to help the stability of the one I
have but I can sure put a bolt or screwdriver thru the holes to keep
it from running away on me. BTW - consider the case where it's a one
man operation and try to figure out how you are going to maintain
control of the jack AND get some else (useful) done.
On Sat, 25 Dec 2004 19:50:11 UTC L.W.(ßill) ------ III
<----------@***.net> wrote:
> Hi George,
> In the fifties we had to use the dangerous bumper jack to jack the
> car up high enough for the tire to clear the fender skirts:
> http://www.nls.net/mp/mikemonett/Nash52/Nash52.htm
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Jersey wrote:
> >
> > Ya know come to think, I'm old enough to remember when that was the (standard)
> > type of jack that came with all cars & trucks & they did the job but I also remember
> > wondering if the thing was going to go flying or slip out from under the car. Also it's
> > real easy to get caught up in the moment while changing a flat (or getting yourself
> > outa a swamp-hole which may just be the case down here in Florida) but you do get
> > caught up & find your self doing things that you wouldn't normally do. To get my Jeep's
> > blowout changed the other day we did a couple things that weren't very safe & I remember
> > that I even commented that "I was sure OSHA wouldn't approve of this." But when
> > your on the side of the road & traffic is flying by & your half on the road, half off or close
> > to a ditch, sand all over & pieces of tires, nut, bolts, broken bottles, beer cans & other
> > assorted roadside trash you're not thinking safety so much as you might be thinking
> > what's the quickest way to get this tire changed & get the hell outa here. I guess
> > there's always AAA..........................
> >
> > Happy Holidays Ya'll - George
--
Will Honea
#66
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Posts: n/a
Re: Hi-Lift Jack Thread
Dangerous, yes, but even the old bumper jack wasn't in the same class
as a highlift when it came to potential.
Hey! the highlift is a tool. It has it's uses and place in the scheme
of things so use when necessary and in a manner that keeps you as safe
as possible. I can't do anything to help the stability of the one I
have but I can sure put a bolt or screwdriver thru the holes to keep
it from running away on me. BTW - consider the case where it's a one
man operation and try to figure out how you are going to maintain
control of the jack AND get some else (useful) done.
On Sat, 25 Dec 2004 19:50:11 UTC L.W.(ßill) ------ III
<----------@***.net> wrote:
> Hi George,
> In the fifties we had to use the dangerous bumper jack to jack the
> car up high enough for the tire to clear the fender skirts:
> http://www.nls.net/mp/mikemonett/Nash52/Nash52.htm
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Jersey wrote:
> >
> > Ya know come to think, I'm old enough to remember when that was the (standard)
> > type of jack that came with all cars & trucks & they did the job but I also remember
> > wondering if the thing was going to go flying or slip out from under the car. Also it's
> > real easy to get caught up in the moment while changing a flat (or getting yourself
> > outa a swamp-hole which may just be the case down here in Florida) but you do get
> > caught up & find your self doing things that you wouldn't normally do. To get my Jeep's
> > blowout changed the other day we did a couple things that weren't very safe & I remember
> > that I even commented that "I was sure OSHA wouldn't approve of this." But when
> > your on the side of the road & traffic is flying by & your half on the road, half off or close
> > to a ditch, sand all over & pieces of tires, nut, bolts, broken bottles, beer cans & other
> > assorted roadside trash you're not thinking safety so much as you might be thinking
> > what's the quickest way to get this tire changed & get the hell outa here. I guess
> > there's always AAA..........................
> >
> > Happy Holidays Ya'll - George
--
Will Honea
as a highlift when it came to potential.
Hey! the highlift is a tool. It has it's uses and place in the scheme
of things so use when necessary and in a manner that keeps you as safe
as possible. I can't do anything to help the stability of the one I
have but I can sure put a bolt or screwdriver thru the holes to keep
it from running away on me. BTW - consider the case where it's a one
man operation and try to figure out how you are going to maintain
control of the jack AND get some else (useful) done.
On Sat, 25 Dec 2004 19:50:11 UTC L.W.(ßill) ------ III
<----------@***.net> wrote:
> Hi George,
> In the fifties we had to use the dangerous bumper jack to jack the
> car up high enough for the tire to clear the fender skirts:
> http://www.nls.net/mp/mikemonett/Nash52/Nash52.htm
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Jersey wrote:
> >
> > Ya know come to think, I'm old enough to remember when that was the (standard)
> > type of jack that came with all cars & trucks & they did the job but I also remember
> > wondering if the thing was going to go flying or slip out from under the car. Also it's
> > real easy to get caught up in the moment while changing a flat (or getting yourself
> > outa a swamp-hole which may just be the case down here in Florida) but you do get
> > caught up & find your self doing things that you wouldn't normally do. To get my Jeep's
> > blowout changed the other day we did a couple things that weren't very safe & I remember
> > that I even commented that "I was sure OSHA wouldn't approve of this." But when
> > your on the side of the road & traffic is flying by & your half on the road, half off or close
> > to a ditch, sand all over & pieces of tires, nut, bolts, broken bottles, beer cans & other
> > assorted roadside trash you're not thinking safety so much as you might be thinking
> > what's the quickest way to get this tire changed & get the hell outa here. I guess
> > there's always AAA..........................
> >
> > Happy Holidays Ya'll - George
--
Will Honea
#67
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Hi-Lift Jack Thread
Dangerous, yes, but even the old bumper jack wasn't in the same class
as a highlift when it came to potential.
Hey! the highlift is a tool. It has it's uses and place in the scheme
of things so use when necessary and in a manner that keeps you as safe
as possible. I can't do anything to help the stability of the one I
have but I can sure put a bolt or screwdriver thru the holes to keep
it from running away on me. BTW - consider the case where it's a one
man operation and try to figure out how you are going to maintain
control of the jack AND get some else (useful) done.
On Sat, 25 Dec 2004 19:50:11 UTC L.W.(ßill) ------ III
<----------@***.net> wrote:
> Hi George,
> In the fifties we had to use the dangerous bumper jack to jack the
> car up high enough for the tire to clear the fender skirts:
> http://www.nls.net/mp/mikemonett/Nash52/Nash52.htm
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Jersey wrote:
> >
> > Ya know come to think, I'm old enough to remember when that was the (standard)
> > type of jack that came with all cars & trucks & they did the job but I also remember
> > wondering if the thing was going to go flying or slip out from under the car. Also it's
> > real easy to get caught up in the moment while changing a flat (or getting yourself
> > outa a swamp-hole which may just be the case down here in Florida) but you do get
> > caught up & find your self doing things that you wouldn't normally do. To get my Jeep's
> > blowout changed the other day we did a couple things that weren't very safe & I remember
> > that I even commented that "I was sure OSHA wouldn't approve of this." But when
> > your on the side of the road & traffic is flying by & your half on the road, half off or close
> > to a ditch, sand all over & pieces of tires, nut, bolts, broken bottles, beer cans & other
> > assorted roadside trash you're not thinking safety so much as you might be thinking
> > what's the quickest way to get this tire changed & get the hell outa here. I guess
> > there's always AAA..........................
> >
> > Happy Holidays Ya'll - George
--
Will Honea
as a highlift when it came to potential.
Hey! the highlift is a tool. It has it's uses and place in the scheme
of things so use when necessary and in a manner that keeps you as safe
as possible. I can't do anything to help the stability of the one I
have but I can sure put a bolt or screwdriver thru the holes to keep
it from running away on me. BTW - consider the case where it's a one
man operation and try to figure out how you are going to maintain
control of the jack AND get some else (useful) done.
On Sat, 25 Dec 2004 19:50:11 UTC L.W.(ßill) ------ III
<----------@***.net> wrote:
> Hi George,
> In the fifties we had to use the dangerous bumper jack to jack the
> car up high enough for the tire to clear the fender skirts:
> http://www.nls.net/mp/mikemonett/Nash52/Nash52.htm
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Jersey wrote:
> >
> > Ya know come to think, I'm old enough to remember when that was the (standard)
> > type of jack that came with all cars & trucks & they did the job but I also remember
> > wondering if the thing was going to go flying or slip out from under the car. Also it's
> > real easy to get caught up in the moment while changing a flat (or getting yourself
> > outa a swamp-hole which may just be the case down here in Florida) but you do get
> > caught up & find your self doing things that you wouldn't normally do. To get my Jeep's
> > blowout changed the other day we did a couple things that weren't very safe & I remember
> > that I even commented that "I was sure OSHA wouldn't approve of this." But when
> > your on the side of the road & traffic is flying by & your half on the road, half off or close
> > to a ditch, sand all over & pieces of tires, nut, bolts, broken bottles, beer cans & other
> > assorted roadside trash you're not thinking safety so much as you might be thinking
> > what's the quickest way to get this tire changed & get the hell outa here. I guess
> > there's always AAA..........................
> >
> > Happy Holidays Ya'll - George
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Will Honea
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Re: Hi-Lift Jack Thread
I used to like riding motorcycles. These days though no amount of training can
minimize the risk of riding a motorcycle around Southern California there are
just too many door-slamming, cage drivers around to think you have a chance. I
know three people who through no fault of their own came to grief on
motorcycles in Southern California. Two of 'em are dead.
>Yes, you're right. Things CAN happen. And yes, it CAN be dangerous. But
>so are a lot of other things -- power tools (saws, etc), motorcycles (which
>I love to ride), etc. With the proper training and care, you can use these
>tools to their fullest extent while minimizing (but not eliminating) the
>risks.
>
>Eric
>99 TJ SE
-Bill (remove "botizer" to reply via email)
minimize the risk of riding a motorcycle around Southern California there are
just too many door-slamming, cage drivers around to think you have a chance. I
know three people who through no fault of their own came to grief on
motorcycles in Southern California. Two of 'em are dead.
>Yes, you're right. Things CAN happen. And yes, it CAN be dangerous. But
>so are a lot of other things -- power tools (saws, etc), motorcycles (which
>I love to ride), etc. With the proper training and care, you can use these
>tools to their fullest extent while minimizing (but not eliminating) the
>risks.
>
>Eric
>99 TJ SE
-Bill (remove "botizer" to reply via email)
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Re: Hi-Lift Jack Thread
I used to like riding motorcycles. These days though no amount of training can
minimize the risk of riding a motorcycle around Southern California there are
just too many door-slamming, cage drivers around to think you have a chance. I
know three people who through no fault of their own came to grief on
motorcycles in Southern California. Two of 'em are dead.
>Yes, you're right. Things CAN happen. And yes, it CAN be dangerous. But
>so are a lot of other things -- power tools (saws, etc), motorcycles (which
>I love to ride), etc. With the proper training and care, you can use these
>tools to their fullest extent while minimizing (but not eliminating) the
>risks.
>
>Eric
>99 TJ SE
-Bill (remove "botizer" to reply via email)
minimize the risk of riding a motorcycle around Southern California there are
just too many door-slamming, cage drivers around to think you have a chance. I
know three people who through no fault of their own came to grief on
motorcycles in Southern California. Two of 'em are dead.
>Yes, you're right. Things CAN happen. And yes, it CAN be dangerous. But
>so are a lot of other things -- power tools (saws, etc), motorcycles (which
>I love to ride), etc. With the proper training and care, you can use these
>tools to their fullest extent while minimizing (but not eliminating) the
>risks.
>
>Eric
>99 TJ SE
-Bill (remove "botizer" to reply via email)
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Re: Hi-Lift Jack Thread
I used to like riding motorcycles. These days though no amount of training can
minimize the risk of riding a motorcycle around Southern California there are
just too many door-slamming, cage drivers around to think you have a chance. I
know three people who through no fault of their own came to grief on
motorcycles in Southern California. Two of 'em are dead.
>Yes, you're right. Things CAN happen. And yes, it CAN be dangerous. But
>so are a lot of other things -- power tools (saws, etc), motorcycles (which
>I love to ride), etc. With the proper training and care, you can use these
>tools to their fullest extent while minimizing (but not eliminating) the
>risks.
>
>Eric
>99 TJ SE
-Bill (remove "botizer" to reply via email)
minimize the risk of riding a motorcycle around Southern California there are
just too many door-slamming, cage drivers around to think you have a chance. I
know three people who through no fault of their own came to grief on
motorcycles in Southern California. Two of 'em are dead.
>Yes, you're right. Things CAN happen. And yes, it CAN be dangerous. But
>so are a lot of other things -- power tools (saws, etc), motorcycles (which
>I love to ride), etc. With the proper training and care, you can use these
>tools to their fullest extent while minimizing (but not eliminating) the
>risks.
>
>Eric
>99 TJ SE
-Bill (remove "botizer" to reply via email)