Re: Help: CJ idle/running problem
You are welcome.
Mike Rob wrote: > > I really appreciate your time and ideas in this thread. I'll dig into > the gas tank issue and decide which way to go. At least I have some > peace of mind now knowing why it wasn't running right. > > Again, many thanks, > > Rob > > On Thu, 20 May 2004 09:31:56 -0400, Mike Romain <romainm@sympatico.ca> > wrote: > > >Your tank has a screen on the gas pickup line, but rust can get through > >it. > > > >Your problem usually happens when someone left the tank empty for > >extended periods and condensation killed it. It might really be dead or > >you might be able to flush it with a bunch of filters. > > > >For rust like that, you can likely use compressed air and back blow the > >filters. The first one is trash but the ones that fill up fast can be > >cleaned. > > > >This also doesn't say good things for the gas lines themselves. > > > >I have the 76L plastic tank on mine. The fuel pickup and the skid plate > >are different than the steel tank. > > > >If your tank is in good shape on the outside, there are places and kits > >you can buy to epoxy the inside of the tank. There used to be a place > >local to me that did them for $75.00 or something and Bike shops sell > >the kits for Bike gas tanks. > > > >Mike > >86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00 > >88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's > > > >Rob wrote: > >> > >> Well, the mystery is solved, but not without its own problems. The > >> owner says he changed filters just a couple weeks prior to my coming > >> to get the Jeep. In a desparation attempt, I changed the fuel filter > >> and sure enough, a bunch of rust came out of the old and it began > >> running fine with the new filter - for about 5 minutes then the same > >> problem. > >> > >> I'm assuming rust in the tank - do you guys recommend something to fix > >> this tak, replace with another metal tank, or going plastic? > >> > >> Any issues to be aware of if I go from 15 to 21 gallons? > >> > >> Thanks, > >> > >> Rob > >> > >> On Mon, 17 May 2004 03:02:55 GMT, Rob <rob.mullins@verizon.com> wrote: > >> > >> >Guess I really have two questions - first about the over filled oil / > >> >blown seal. Second about how to diagnose the suddone failure to keep > >> >an idle. > >> > > >> >Thanks again, > >> > > >> >Rob > >> > > >> > > >> >On Mon, 17 May 2004 02:55:16 GMT, Rob <rob.mullins@verizon.com> wrote: > >> > > >> >> > >> >>I just returned from buying a CJ from about 280 miles away. While I > >> >>was there I tested everything and all was a-ok. I checked the fluids > >> >>and wanted to make sure everything was ok for the roadtrip home. > >> >> > >> >>Oil indicated a little low so we added a quart. Still showed low, but > >> >>the guy then says that the dripstick broke off and when he replaced it > >> >>he made his own markings - ok, so I can't go by the dipstick to tell > >> >>if its full or not. > >> >> > >> >>Close to home it started idling really rough at slow speeds or with > >> >>the clutch in. Soon it began to die completely with the clutch in. > >> >> > >> >>It's sat for a few hours, temps all back down and it still won't stay > >> >>running. There;s oil all over the valve cover and some puddled around > >> >>the intake manifold. > >> >> > >> >>I suspect there may have been too much oil. Question: If so, what > >> >>damage may have been done and how can I tell? I understand that in > >> >>some cars it may blow a seal. Knowing I'm going to look like an > >> >>idiot, can someone wlak me through how to diagnose a blown seal? > >> >> > >> >>Thanks a buch - it's painful to just come home and be excited about > >> >>the CJ and I can't even drive it! > >> >> > >> >>Rob > >> >> |
Re: Help: CJ idle/running problem
You are welcome.
Mike Rob wrote: > > I really appreciate your time and ideas in this thread. I'll dig into > the gas tank issue and decide which way to go. At least I have some > peace of mind now knowing why it wasn't running right. > > Again, many thanks, > > Rob > > On Thu, 20 May 2004 09:31:56 -0400, Mike Romain <romainm@sympatico.ca> > wrote: > > >Your tank has a screen on the gas pickup line, but rust can get through > >it. > > > >Your problem usually happens when someone left the tank empty for > >extended periods and condensation killed it. It might really be dead or > >you might be able to flush it with a bunch of filters. > > > >For rust like that, you can likely use compressed air and back blow the > >filters. The first one is trash but the ones that fill up fast can be > >cleaned. > > > >This also doesn't say good things for the gas lines themselves. > > > >I have the 76L plastic tank on mine. The fuel pickup and the skid plate > >are different than the steel tank. > > > >If your tank is in good shape on the outside, there are places and kits > >you can buy to epoxy the inside of the tank. There used to be a place > >local to me that did them for $75.00 or something and Bike shops sell > >the kits for Bike gas tanks. > > > >Mike > >86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00 > >88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's > > > >Rob wrote: > >> > >> Well, the mystery is solved, but not without its own problems. The > >> owner says he changed filters just a couple weeks prior to my coming > >> to get the Jeep. In a desparation attempt, I changed the fuel filter > >> and sure enough, a bunch of rust came out of the old and it began > >> running fine with the new filter - for about 5 minutes then the same > >> problem. > >> > >> I'm assuming rust in the tank - do you guys recommend something to fix > >> this tak, replace with another metal tank, or going plastic? > >> > >> Any issues to be aware of if I go from 15 to 21 gallons? > >> > >> Thanks, > >> > >> Rob > >> > >> On Mon, 17 May 2004 03:02:55 GMT, Rob <rob.mullins@verizon.com> wrote: > >> > >> >Guess I really have two questions - first about the over filled oil / > >> >blown seal. Second about how to diagnose the suddone failure to keep > >> >an idle. > >> > > >> >Thanks again, > >> > > >> >Rob > >> > > >> > > >> >On Mon, 17 May 2004 02:55:16 GMT, Rob <rob.mullins@verizon.com> wrote: > >> > > >> >> > >> >>I just returned from buying a CJ from about 280 miles away. While I > >> >>was there I tested everything and all was a-ok. I checked the fluids > >> >>and wanted to make sure everything was ok for the roadtrip home. > >> >> > >> >>Oil indicated a little low so we added a quart. Still showed low, but > >> >>the guy then says that the dripstick broke off and when he replaced it > >> >>he made his own markings - ok, so I can't go by the dipstick to tell > >> >>if its full or not. > >> >> > >> >>Close to home it started idling really rough at slow speeds or with > >> >>the clutch in. Soon it began to die completely with the clutch in. > >> >> > >> >>It's sat for a few hours, temps all back down and it still won't stay > >> >>running. There;s oil all over the valve cover and some puddled around > >> >>the intake manifold. > >> >> > >> >>I suspect there may have been too much oil. Question: If so, what > >> >>damage may have been done and how can I tell? I understand that in > >> >>some cars it may blow a seal. Knowing I'm going to look like an > >> >>idiot, can someone wlak me through how to diagnose a blown seal? > >> >> > >> >>Thanks a buch - it's painful to just come home and be excited about > >> >>the CJ and I can't even drive it! > >> >> > >> >>Rob > >> >> |
Re: Help: CJ idle/running problem
You are welcome.
Mike Rob wrote: > > I really appreciate your time and ideas in this thread. I'll dig into > the gas tank issue and decide which way to go. At least I have some > peace of mind now knowing why it wasn't running right. > > Again, many thanks, > > Rob > > On Thu, 20 May 2004 09:31:56 -0400, Mike Romain <romainm@sympatico.ca> > wrote: > > >Your tank has a screen on the gas pickup line, but rust can get through > >it. > > > >Your problem usually happens when someone left the tank empty for > >extended periods and condensation killed it. It might really be dead or > >you might be able to flush it with a bunch of filters. > > > >For rust like that, you can likely use compressed air and back blow the > >filters. The first one is trash but the ones that fill up fast can be > >cleaned. > > > >This also doesn't say good things for the gas lines themselves. > > > >I have the 76L plastic tank on mine. The fuel pickup and the skid plate > >are different than the steel tank. > > > >If your tank is in good shape on the outside, there are places and kits > >you can buy to epoxy the inside of the tank. There used to be a place > >local to me that did them for $75.00 or something and Bike shops sell > >the kits for Bike gas tanks. > > > >Mike > >86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00 > >88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's > > > >Rob wrote: > >> > >> Well, the mystery is solved, but not without its own problems. The > >> owner says he changed filters just a couple weeks prior to my coming > >> to get the Jeep. In a desparation attempt, I changed the fuel filter > >> and sure enough, a bunch of rust came out of the old and it began > >> running fine with the new filter - for about 5 minutes then the same > >> problem. > >> > >> I'm assuming rust in the tank - do you guys recommend something to fix > >> this tak, replace with another metal tank, or going plastic? > >> > >> Any issues to be aware of if I go from 15 to 21 gallons? > >> > >> Thanks, > >> > >> Rob > >> > >> On Mon, 17 May 2004 03:02:55 GMT, Rob <rob.mullins@verizon.com> wrote: > >> > >> >Guess I really have two questions - first about the over filled oil / > >> >blown seal. Second about how to diagnose the suddone failure to keep > >> >an idle. > >> > > >> >Thanks again, > >> > > >> >Rob > >> > > >> > > >> >On Mon, 17 May 2004 02:55:16 GMT, Rob <rob.mullins@verizon.com> wrote: > >> > > >> >> > >> >>I just returned from buying a CJ from about 280 miles away. While I > >> >>was there I tested everything and all was a-ok. I checked the fluids > >> >>and wanted to make sure everything was ok for the roadtrip home. > >> >> > >> >>Oil indicated a little low so we added a quart. Still showed low, but > >> >>the guy then says that the dripstick broke off and when he replaced it > >> >>he made his own markings - ok, so I can't go by the dipstick to tell > >> >>if its full or not. > >> >> > >> >>Close to home it started idling really rough at slow speeds or with > >> >>the clutch in. Soon it began to die completely with the clutch in. > >> >> > >> >>It's sat for a few hours, temps all back down and it still won't stay > >> >>running. There;s oil all over the valve cover and some puddled around > >> >>the intake manifold. > >> >> > >> >>I suspect there may have been too much oil. Question: If so, what > >> >>damage may have been done and how can I tell? I understand that in > >> >>some cars it may blow a seal. Knowing I'm going to look like an > >> >>idiot, can someone wlak me through how to diagnose a blown seal? > >> >> > >> >>Thanks a buch - it's painful to just come home and be excited about > >> >>the CJ and I can't even drive it! > >> >> > >> >>Rob > >> >> |
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