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Rob 05-16-2004 10:55 PM

Help: CJ idle/running problem
 

I just returned from buying a CJ from about 280 miles away. While I
was there I tested everything and all was a-ok. I checked the fluids
and wanted to make sure everything was ok for the roadtrip home.

Oil indicated a little low so we added a quart. Still showed low, but
the guy then says that the dripstick broke off and when he replaced it
he made his own markings - ok, so I can't go by the dipstick to tell
if its full or not.

Close to home it started idling really rough at slow speeds or with
the clutch in. Soon it began to die completely with the clutch in.

It's sat for a few hours, temps all back down and it still won't stay
running. There;s oil all over the valve cover and some puddled around
the intake manifold.

I suspect there may have been too much oil. Question: If so, what
damage may have been done and how can I tell? I understand that in
some cars it may blow a seal. Knowing I'm going to look like an
idiot, can someone wlak me through how to diagnose a blown seal?

Thanks a buch - it's painful to just come home and be excited about
the CJ and I can't even drive it!

Rob


Rob 05-16-2004 11:02 PM

Re: Help: CJ idle/running problem
 
Guess I really have two questions - first about the over filled oil /
blown seal. Second about how to diagnose the suddone failure to keep
an idle.

Thanks again,

Rob


On Mon, 17 May 2004 02:55:16 GMT, Rob <rob.mullins@verizon.com> wrote:

>
>I just returned from buying a CJ from about 280 miles away. While I
>was there I tested everything and all was a-ok. I checked the fluids
>and wanted to make sure everything was ok for the roadtrip home.
>
>Oil indicated a little low so we added a quart. Still showed low, but
>the guy then says that the dripstick broke off and when he replaced it
>he made his own markings - ok, so I can't go by the dipstick to tell
>if its full or not.
>
>Close to home it started idling really rough at slow speeds or with
>the clutch in. Soon it began to die completely with the clutch in.
>
>It's sat for a few hours, temps all back down and it still won't stay
>running. There;s oil all over the valve cover and some puddled around
>the intake manifold.
>
>I suspect there may have been too much oil. Question: If so, what
>damage may have been done and how can I tell? I understand that in
>some cars it may blow a seal. Knowing I'm going to look like an
>idiot, can someone wlak me through how to diagnose a blown seal?
>
>Thanks a buch - it's painful to just come home and be excited about
>the CJ and I can't even drive it!
>
>Rob
>



Rob 05-16-2004 11:02 PM

Re: Help: CJ idle/running problem
 
Guess I really have two questions - first about the over filled oil /
blown seal. Second about how to diagnose the suddone failure to keep
an idle.

Thanks again,

Rob


On Mon, 17 May 2004 02:55:16 GMT, Rob <rob.mullins@verizon.com> wrote:

>
>I just returned from buying a CJ from about 280 miles away. While I
>was there I tested everything and all was a-ok. I checked the fluids
>and wanted to make sure everything was ok for the roadtrip home.
>
>Oil indicated a little low so we added a quart. Still showed low, but
>the guy then says that the dripstick broke off and when he replaced it
>he made his own markings - ok, so I can't go by the dipstick to tell
>if its full or not.
>
>Close to home it started idling really rough at slow speeds or with
>the clutch in. Soon it began to die completely with the clutch in.
>
>It's sat for a few hours, temps all back down and it still won't stay
>running. There;s oil all over the valve cover and some puddled around
>the intake manifold.
>
>I suspect there may have been too much oil. Question: If so, what
>damage may have been done and how can I tell? I understand that in
>some cars it may blow a seal. Knowing I'm going to look like an
>idiot, can someone wlak me through how to diagnose a blown seal?
>
>Thanks a buch - it's painful to just come home and be excited about
>the CJ and I can't even drive it!
>
>Rob
>



Rob 05-16-2004 11:02 PM

Re: Help: CJ idle/running problem
 
Guess I really have two questions - first about the over filled oil /
blown seal. Second about how to diagnose the suddone failure to keep
an idle.

Thanks again,

Rob


On Mon, 17 May 2004 02:55:16 GMT, Rob <rob.mullins@verizon.com> wrote:

>
>I just returned from buying a CJ from about 280 miles away. While I
>was there I tested everything and all was a-ok. I checked the fluids
>and wanted to make sure everything was ok for the roadtrip home.
>
>Oil indicated a little low so we added a quart. Still showed low, but
>the guy then says that the dripstick broke off and when he replaced it
>he made his own markings - ok, so I can't go by the dipstick to tell
>if its full or not.
>
>Close to home it started idling really rough at slow speeds or with
>the clutch in. Soon it began to die completely with the clutch in.
>
>It's sat for a few hours, temps all back down and it still won't stay
>running. There;s oil all over the valve cover and some puddled around
>the intake manifold.
>
>I suspect there may have been too much oil. Question: If so, what
>damage may have been done and how can I tell? I understand that in
>some cars it may blow a seal. Knowing I'm going to look like an
>idiot, can someone wlak me through how to diagnose a blown seal?
>
>Thanks a buch - it's painful to just come home and be excited about
>the CJ and I can't even drive it!
>
>Rob
>



Rob 05-16-2004 11:02 PM

Re: Help: CJ idle/running problem
 
Guess I really have two questions - first about the over filled oil /
blown seal. Second about how to diagnose the suddone failure to keep
an idle.

Thanks again,

Rob


On Mon, 17 May 2004 02:55:16 GMT, Rob <rob.mullins@verizon.com> wrote:

>
>I just returned from buying a CJ from about 280 miles away. While I
>was there I tested everything and all was a-ok. I checked the fluids
>and wanted to make sure everything was ok for the roadtrip home.
>
>Oil indicated a little low so we added a quart. Still showed low, but
>the guy then says that the dripstick broke off and when he replaced it
>he made his own markings - ok, so I can't go by the dipstick to tell
>if its full or not.
>
>Close to home it started idling really rough at slow speeds or with
>the clutch in. Soon it began to die completely with the clutch in.
>
>It's sat for a few hours, temps all back down and it still won't stay
>running. There;s oil all over the valve cover and some puddled around
>the intake manifold.
>
>I suspect there may have been too much oil. Question: If so, what
>damage may have been done and how can I tell? I understand that in
>some cars it may blow a seal. Knowing I'm going to look like an
>idiot, can someone wlak me through how to diagnose a blown seal?
>
>Thanks a buch - it's painful to just come home and be excited about
>the CJ and I can't even drive it!
>
>Rob
>



L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III 05-17-2004 12:58 AM

Re: Help: CJ idle/running problem
 
Hi Rob,
Congratulations.
Start off with an oil and filters change. So you will know where the
correct full line is. Probably six plus one for a six, five for a V8.
Wipe off the engine and see if you can tell where the oil is coming
from, ninety nine percent of the time it will the valve cover gasket at
the firewall side.
Chevrolet small blocks fit perfectly into the Civilian Jeep.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Rob wrote:
>
> I just returned from buying a CJ from about 280 miles away. While I
> was there I tested everything and all was a-ok. I checked the fluids
> and wanted to make sure everything was ok for the roadtrip home.
>
> Oil indicated a little low so we added a quart. Still showed low, but
> the guy then says that the dripstick broke off and when he replaced it
> he made his own markings - ok, so I can't go by the dipstick to tell
> if its full or not.
>
> Close to home it started idling really rough at slow speeds or with
> the clutch in. Soon it began to die completely with the clutch in.
>
> It's sat for a few hours, temps all back down and it still won't stay
> running. There;s oil all over the valve cover and some puddled around
> the intake manifold.
>
> I suspect there may have been too much oil. Question: If so, what
> damage may have been done and how can I tell? I understand that in
> some cars it may blow a seal. Knowing I'm going to look like an
> idiot, can someone wlak me through how to diagnose a blown seal?
>
> Thanks a buch - it's painful to just come home and be excited about
> the CJ and I can't even drive it!
>
> Rob
>


L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III 05-17-2004 12:58 AM

Re: Help: CJ idle/running problem
 
Hi Rob,
Congratulations.
Start off with an oil and filters change. So you will know where the
correct full line is. Probably six plus one for a six, five for a V8.
Wipe off the engine and see if you can tell where the oil is coming
from, ninety nine percent of the time it will the valve cover gasket at
the firewall side.
Chevrolet small blocks fit perfectly into the Civilian Jeep.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Rob wrote:
>
> I just returned from buying a CJ from about 280 miles away. While I
> was there I tested everything and all was a-ok. I checked the fluids
> and wanted to make sure everything was ok for the roadtrip home.
>
> Oil indicated a little low so we added a quart. Still showed low, but
> the guy then says that the dripstick broke off and when he replaced it
> he made his own markings - ok, so I can't go by the dipstick to tell
> if its full or not.
>
> Close to home it started idling really rough at slow speeds or with
> the clutch in. Soon it began to die completely with the clutch in.
>
> It's sat for a few hours, temps all back down and it still won't stay
> running. There;s oil all over the valve cover and some puddled around
> the intake manifold.
>
> I suspect there may have been too much oil. Question: If so, what
> damage may have been done and how can I tell? I understand that in
> some cars it may blow a seal. Knowing I'm going to look like an
> idiot, can someone wlak me through how to diagnose a blown seal?
>
> Thanks a buch - it's painful to just come home and be excited about
> the CJ and I can't even drive it!
>
> Rob
>


L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III 05-17-2004 12:58 AM

Re: Help: CJ idle/running problem
 
Hi Rob,
Congratulations.
Start off with an oil and filters change. So you will know where the
correct full line is. Probably six plus one for a six, five for a V8.
Wipe off the engine and see if you can tell where the oil is coming
from, ninety nine percent of the time it will the valve cover gasket at
the firewall side.
Chevrolet small blocks fit perfectly into the Civilian Jeep.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Rob wrote:
>
> I just returned from buying a CJ from about 280 miles away. While I
> was there I tested everything and all was a-ok. I checked the fluids
> and wanted to make sure everything was ok for the roadtrip home.
>
> Oil indicated a little low so we added a quart. Still showed low, but
> the guy then says that the dripstick broke off and when he replaced it
> he made his own markings - ok, so I can't go by the dipstick to tell
> if its full or not.
>
> Close to home it started idling really rough at slow speeds or with
> the clutch in. Soon it began to die completely with the clutch in.
>
> It's sat for a few hours, temps all back down and it still won't stay
> running. There;s oil all over the valve cover and some puddled around
> the intake manifold.
>
> I suspect there may have been too much oil. Question: If so, what
> damage may have been done and how can I tell? I understand that in
> some cars it may blow a seal. Knowing I'm going to look like an
> idiot, can someone wlak me through how to diagnose a blown seal?
>
> Thanks a buch - it's painful to just come home and be excited about
> the CJ and I can't even drive it!
>
> Rob
>


L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III 05-17-2004 12:58 AM

Re: Help: CJ idle/running problem
 
Hi Rob,
Congratulations.
Start off with an oil and filters change. So you will know where the
correct full line is. Probably six plus one for a six, five for a V8.
Wipe off the engine and see if you can tell where the oil is coming
from, ninety nine percent of the time it will the valve cover gasket at
the firewall side.
Chevrolet small blocks fit perfectly into the Civilian Jeep.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Rob wrote:
>
> I just returned from buying a CJ from about 280 miles away. While I
> was there I tested everything and all was a-ok. I checked the fluids
> and wanted to make sure everything was ok for the roadtrip home.
>
> Oil indicated a little low so we added a quart. Still showed low, but
> the guy then says that the dripstick broke off and when he replaced it
> he made his own markings - ok, so I can't go by the dipstick to tell
> if its full or not.
>
> Close to home it started idling really rough at slow speeds or with
> the clutch in. Soon it began to die completely with the clutch in.
>
> It's sat for a few hours, temps all back down and it still won't stay
> running. There;s oil all over the valve cover and some puddled around
> the intake manifold.
>
> I suspect there may have been too much oil. Question: If so, what
> damage may have been done and how can I tell? I understand that in
> some cars it may blow a seal. Knowing I'm going to look like an
> idiot, can someone wlak me through how to diagnose a blown seal?
>
> Thanks a buch - it's painful to just come home and be excited about
> the CJ and I can't even drive it!
>
> Rob
>


Tookie 05-17-2004 08:08 AM

Re: Help: CJ idle/running problem
 
Change the oil as stated, but this engine may
be worn and oil fouling the plugs - previous owner puts
in a new set before he sells it, runs good for the test drive,
hopefully that's not the case here
Tookie - Denham Springs, LA
88YJ, 4" lift, 33" TSLs, Lock-Rights
PosiLock, 4.10s


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