Re: Help: CJ idle/running problem
 

Well, the mystery is solved, but not without its own problems. The
owner says he changed filters just a couple weeks prior to my coming
to get the Jeep. In a desparation attempt, I changed the fuel filter
and sure enough, a bunch of rust came out of the old and it began
running fine with the new filter - for about 5 minutes then the same
problem.

I'm assuming rust in the tank - do you guys recommend something to fix
this tak, replace with another metal tank, or going plastic?

Any issues to be aware of if I go from 15 to 21 gallons?

Thanks,

Rob


On Mon, 17 May 2004 03:02:55 GMT, Rob <rob.mullins@verizon.com> wrote:

>Guess I really have two questions - first about the over filled oil /
>blown seal. Second about how to diagnose the suddone failure to keep
>an idle.
>
>Thanks again,
>
>Rob
>
>
>On Mon, 17 May 2004 02:55:16 GMT, Rob <rob.mullins@verizon.com> wrote:
>
>>
>>I just returned from buying a CJ from about 280 miles away. While I
>>was there I tested everything and all was a-ok. I checked the fluids
>>and wanted to make sure everything was ok for the roadtrip home.
>>
>>Oil indicated a little low so we added a quart. Still showed low, but
>>the guy then says that the dripstick broke off and when he replaced it
>>he made his own markings - ok, so I can't go by the dipstick to tell
>>if its full or not.
>>
>>Close to home it started idling really rough at slow speeds or with
>>the clutch in. Soon it began to die completely with the clutch in.
>>
>>It's sat for a few hours, temps all back down and it still won't stay
>>running. There;s oil all over the valve cover and some puddled around
>>the intake manifold.
>>
>>I suspect there may have been too much oil. Question: If so, what
>>damage may have been done and how can I tell? I understand that in
>>some cars it may blow a seal. Knowing I'm going to look like an
>>idiot, can someone wlak me through how to diagnose a blown seal?
>>
>>Thanks a buch - it's painful to just come home and be excited about
>>the CJ and I can't even drive it!
>>
>>Rob
>>

Re: Help: CJ idle/running problem
 

Your tank has a screen on the gas pickup line, but rust can get through
it.

Your problem usually happens when someone left the tank empty for
extended periods and condensation killed it. It might really be dead or
you might be able to flush it with a bunch of filters.

For rust like that, you can likely use compressed air and back blow the
filters. The first one is trash but the ones that fill up fast can be
cleaned.

This also doesn't say good things for the gas lines themselves.

I have the 76L plastic tank on mine. The fuel pickup and the skid plate
are different than the steel tank.

If your tank is in good shape on the outside, there are places and kits
you can buy to epoxy the inside of the tank. There used to be a place
local to me that did them for $75.00 or something and Bike shops sell
the kits for Bike gas tanks.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

Rob wrote:
>
> Well, the mystery is solved, but not without its own problems. The
> owner says he changed filters just a couple weeks prior to my coming
> to get the Jeep. In a desparation attempt, I changed the fuel filter
> and sure enough, a bunch of rust came out of the old and it began
> running fine with the new filter - for about 5 minutes then the same
> problem.
>
> I'm assuming rust in the tank - do you guys recommend something to fix
> this tak, replace with another metal tank, or going plastic?
>
> Any issues to be aware of if I go from 15 to 21 gallons?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Rob
>
> On Mon, 17 May 2004 03:02:55 GMT, Rob <rob.mullins@verizon.com> wrote:
>
> >Guess I really have two questions - first about the over filled oil /
> >blown seal. Second about how to diagnose the suddone failure to keep
> >an idle.
> >
> >Thanks again,
> >
> >Rob
> >
> >
> >On Mon, 17 May 2004 02:55:16 GMT, Rob <rob.mullins@verizon.com> wrote:
> >
> >>
> >>I just returned from buying a CJ from about 280 miles away. While I
> >>was there I tested everything and all was a-ok. I checked the fluids
> >>and wanted to make sure everything was ok for the roadtrip home.
> >>
> >>Oil indicated a little low so we added a quart. Still showed low, but
> >>the guy then says that the dripstick broke off and when he replaced it
> >>he made his own markings - ok, so I can't go by the dipstick to tell
> >>if its full or not.
> >>
> >>Close to home it started idling really rough at slow speeds or with
> >>the clutch in. Soon it began to die completely with the clutch in.
> >>
> >>It's sat for a few hours, temps all back down and it still won't stay
> >>running. There;s oil all over the valve cover and some puddled around
> >>the intake manifold.
> >>
> >>I suspect there may have been too much oil. Question: If so, what
> >>damage may have been done and how can I tell? I understand that in
> >>some cars it may blow a seal. Knowing I'm going to look like an
> >>idiot, can someone wlak me through how to diagnose a blown seal?
> >>
> >>Thanks a buch - it's painful to just come home and be excited about
> >>the CJ and I can't even drive it!
> >>
> >>Rob
> >>

Re: Help: CJ idle/running problem
 

Your tank has a screen on the gas pickup line, but rust can get through
it.

Your problem usually happens when someone left the tank empty for
extended periods and condensation killed it. It might really be dead or
you might be able to flush it with a bunch of filters.

For rust like that, you can likely use compressed air and back blow the
filters. The first one is trash but the ones that fill up fast can be
cleaned.

This also doesn't say good things for the gas lines themselves.

I have the 76L plastic tank on mine. The fuel pickup and the skid plate
are different than the steel tank.

If your tank is in good shape on the outside, there are places and kits
you can buy to epoxy the inside of the tank. There used to be a place
local to me that did them for $75.00 or something and Bike shops sell
the kits for Bike gas tanks.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

Rob wrote:
>
> Well, the mystery is solved, but not without its own problems. The
> owner says he changed filters just a couple weeks prior to my coming
> to get the Jeep. In a desparation attempt, I changed the fuel filter
> and sure enough, a bunch of rust came out of the old and it began
> running fine with the new filter - for about 5 minutes then the same
> problem.
>
> I'm assuming rust in the tank - do you guys recommend something to fix
> this tak, replace with another metal tank, or going plastic?
>
> Any issues to be aware of if I go from 15 to 21 gallons?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Rob
>
> On Mon, 17 May 2004 03:02:55 GMT, Rob <rob.mullins@verizon.com> wrote:
>
> >Guess I really have two questions - first about the over filled oil /
> >blown seal. Second about how to diagnose the suddone failure to keep
> >an idle.
> >
> >Thanks again,
> >
> >Rob
> >
> >
> >On Mon, 17 May 2004 02:55:16 GMT, Rob <rob.mullins@verizon.com> wrote:
> >
> >>
> >>I just returned from buying a CJ from about 280 miles away. While I
> >>was there I tested everything and all was a-ok. I checked the fluids
> >>and wanted to make sure everything was ok for the roadtrip home.
> >>
> >>Oil indicated a little low so we added a quart. Still showed low, but
> >>the guy then says that the dripstick broke off and when he replaced it
> >>he made his own markings - ok, so I can't go by the dipstick to tell
> >>if its full or not.
> >>
> >>Close to home it started idling really rough at slow speeds or with
> >>the clutch in. Soon it began to die completely with the clutch in.
> >>
> >>It's sat for a few hours, temps all back down and it still won't stay
> >>running. There;s oil all over the valve cover and some puddled around
> >>the intake manifold.
> >>
> >>I suspect there may have been too much oil. Question: If so, what
> >>damage may have been done and how can I tell? I understand that in
> >>some cars it may blow a seal. Knowing I'm going to look like an
> >>idiot, can someone wlak me through how to diagnose a blown seal?
> >>
> >>Thanks a buch - it's painful to just come home and be excited about
> >>the CJ and I can't even drive it!
> >>
> >>Rob
> >>

Re: Help: CJ idle/running problem
 

Your tank has a screen on the gas pickup line, but rust can get through
it.

Your problem usually happens when someone left the tank empty for
extended periods and condensation killed it. It might really be dead or
you might be able to flush it with a bunch of filters.

For rust like that, you can likely use compressed air and back blow the
filters. The first one is trash but the ones that fill up fast can be
cleaned.

This also doesn't say good things for the gas lines themselves.

I have the 76L plastic tank on mine. The fuel pickup and the skid plate
are different than the steel tank.

If your tank is in good shape on the outside, there are places and kits
you can buy to epoxy the inside of the tank. There used to be a place
local to me that did them for $75.00 or something and Bike shops sell
the kits for Bike gas tanks.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

Rob wrote:
>
> Well, the mystery is solved, but not without its own problems. The
> owner says he changed filters just a couple weeks prior to my coming
> to get the Jeep. In a desparation attempt, I changed the fuel filter
> and sure enough, a bunch of rust came out of the old and it began
> running fine with the new filter - for about 5 minutes then the same
> problem.
>
> I'm assuming rust in the tank - do you guys recommend something to fix
> this tak, replace with another metal tank, or going plastic?
>
> Any issues to be aware of if I go from 15 to 21 gallons?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Rob
>
> On Mon, 17 May 2004 03:02:55 GMT, Rob <rob.mullins@verizon.com> wrote:
>
> >Guess I really have two questions - first about the over filled oil /
> >blown seal. Second about how to diagnose the suddone failure to keep
> >an idle.
> >
> >Thanks again,
> >
> >Rob
> >
> >
> >On Mon, 17 May 2004 02:55:16 GMT, Rob <rob.mullins@verizon.com> wrote:
> >
> >>
> >>I just returned from buying a CJ from about 280 miles away. While I
> >>was there I tested everything and all was a-ok. I checked the fluids
> >>and wanted to make sure everything was ok for the roadtrip home.
> >>
> >>Oil indicated a little low so we added a quart. Still showed low, but
> >>the guy then says that the dripstick broke off and when he replaced it
> >>he made his own markings - ok, so I can't go by the dipstick to tell
> >>if its full or not.
> >>
> >>Close to home it started idling really rough at slow speeds or with
> >>the clutch in. Soon it began to die completely with the clutch in.
> >>
> >>It's sat for a few hours, temps all back down and it still won't stay
> >>running. There;s oil all over the valve cover and some puddled around
> >>the intake manifold.
> >>
> >>I suspect there may have been too much oil. Question: If so, what
> >>damage may have been done and how can I tell? I understand that in
> >>some cars it may blow a seal. Knowing I'm going to look like an
> >>idiot, can someone wlak me through how to diagnose a blown seal?
> >>
> >>Thanks a buch - it's painful to just come home and be excited about
> >>the CJ and I can't even drive it!
> >>
> >>Rob
> >>

Re: Help: CJ idle/running problem
 

Your tank has a screen on the gas pickup line, but rust can get through
it.

Your problem usually happens when someone left the tank empty for
extended periods and condensation killed it. It might really be dead or
you might be able to flush it with a bunch of filters.

For rust like that, you can likely use compressed air and back blow the
filters. The first one is trash but the ones that fill up fast can be
cleaned.

This also doesn't say good things for the gas lines themselves.

I have the 76L plastic tank on mine. The fuel pickup and the skid plate
are different than the steel tank.

If your tank is in good shape on the outside, there are places and kits
you can buy to epoxy the inside of the tank. There used to be a place
local to me that did them for $75.00 or something and Bike shops sell
the kits for Bike gas tanks.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

Rob wrote:
>
> Well, the mystery is solved, but not without its own problems. The
> owner says he changed filters just a couple weeks prior to my coming
> to get the Jeep. In a desparation attempt, I changed the fuel filter
> and sure enough, a bunch of rust came out of the old and it began
> running fine with the new filter - for about 5 minutes then the same
> problem.
>
> I'm assuming rust in the tank - do you guys recommend something to fix
> this tak, replace with another metal tank, or going plastic?
>
> Any issues to be aware of if I go from 15 to 21 gallons?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Rob
>
> On Mon, 17 May 2004 03:02:55 GMT, Rob <rob.mullins@verizon.com> wrote:
>
> >Guess I really have two questions - first about the over filled oil /
> >blown seal. Second about how to diagnose the suddone failure to keep
> >an idle.
> >
> >Thanks again,
> >
> >Rob
> >
> >
> >On Mon, 17 May 2004 02:55:16 GMT, Rob <rob.mullins@verizon.com> wrote:
> >
> >>
> >>I just returned from buying a CJ from about 280 miles away. While I
> >>was there I tested everything and all was a-ok. I checked the fluids
> >>and wanted to make sure everything was ok for the roadtrip home.
> >>
> >>Oil indicated a little low so we added a quart. Still showed low, but
> >>the guy then says that the dripstick broke off and when he replaced it
> >>he made his own markings - ok, so I can't go by the dipstick to tell
> >>if its full or not.
> >>
> >>Close to home it started idling really rough at slow speeds or with
> >>the clutch in. Soon it began to die completely with the clutch in.
> >>
> >>It's sat for a few hours, temps all back down and it still won't stay
> >>running. There;s oil all over the valve cover and some puddled around
> >>the intake manifold.
> >>
> >>I suspect there may have been too much oil. Question: If so, what
> >>damage may have been done and how can I tell? I understand that in
> >>some cars it may blow a seal. Knowing I'm going to look like an
> >>idiot, can someone wlak me through how to diagnose a blown seal?
> >>
> >>Thanks a buch - it's painful to just come home and be excited about
> >>the CJ and I can't even drive it!
> >>
> >>Rob
> >>

Re: Help: CJ idle/running problem
 

I really appreciate your time and ideas in this thread. I'll dig into
the gas tank issue and decide which way to go. At least I have some
peace of mind now knowing why it wasn't running right.

Again, many thanks,

Rob


On Thu, 20 May 2004 09:31:56 -0400, Mike Romain <romainm@sympatico.ca>
wrote:

>Your tank has a screen on the gas pickup line, but rust can get through
>it.
>
>Your problem usually happens when someone left the tank empty for
>extended periods and condensation killed it. It might really be dead or
>you might be able to flush it with a bunch of filters.
>
>For rust like that, you can likely use compressed air and back blow the
>filters. The first one is trash but the ones that fill up fast can be
>cleaned.
>
>This also doesn't say good things for the gas lines themselves.
>
>I have the 76L plastic tank on mine. The fuel pickup and the skid plate
>are different than the steel tank.
>
>If your tank is in good shape on the outside, there are places and kits
>you can buy to epoxy the inside of the tank. There used to be a place
>local to me that did them for $75.00 or something and Bike shops sell
>the kits for Bike gas tanks.
>
>Mike
>86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>
>Rob wrote:
>>
>> Well, the mystery is solved, but not without its own problems. The
>> owner says he changed filters just a couple weeks prior to my coming
>> to get the Jeep. In a desparation attempt, I changed the fuel filter
>> and sure enough, a bunch of rust came out of the old and it began
>> running fine with the new filter - for about 5 minutes then the same
>> problem.
>>
>> I'm assuming rust in the tank - do you guys recommend something to fix
>> this tak, replace with another metal tank, or going plastic?
>>
>> Any issues to be aware of if I go from 15 to 21 gallons?
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Rob
>>
>> On Mon, 17 May 2004 03:02:55 GMT, Rob <rob.mullins@verizon.com> wrote:
>>
>> >Guess I really have two questions - first about the over filled oil /
>> >blown seal. Second about how to diagnose the suddone failure to keep
>> >an idle.
>> >
>> >Thanks again,
>> >
>> >Rob
>> >
>> >
>> >On Mon, 17 May 2004 02:55:16 GMT, Rob <rob.mullins@verizon.com> wrote:
>> >
>> >>
>> >>I just returned from buying a CJ from about 280 miles away. While I
>> >>was there I tested everything and all was a-ok. I checked the fluids
>> >>and wanted to make sure everything was ok for the roadtrip home.
>> >>
>> >>Oil indicated a little low so we added a quart. Still showed low, but
>> >>the guy then says that the dripstick broke off and when he replaced it
>> >>he made his own markings - ok, so I can't go by the dipstick to tell
>> >>if its full or not.
>> >>
>> >>Close to home it started idling really rough at slow speeds or with
>> >>the clutch in. Soon it began to die completely with the clutch in.
>> >>
>> >>It's sat for a few hours, temps all back down and it still won't stay
>> >>running. There;s oil all over the valve cover and some puddled around
>> >>the intake manifold.
>> >>
>> >>I suspect there may have been too much oil. Question: If so, what
>> >>damage may have been done and how can I tell? I understand that in
>> >>some cars it may blow a seal. Knowing I'm going to look like an
>> >>idiot, can someone wlak me through how to diagnose a blown seal?
>> >>
>> >>Thanks a buch - it's painful to just come home and be excited about
>> >>the CJ and I can't even drive it!
>> >>
>> >>Rob
>> >>

Re: Help: CJ idle/running problem
 

I really appreciate your time and ideas in this thread. I'll dig into
the gas tank issue and decide which way to go. At least I have some
peace of mind now knowing why it wasn't running right.

Again, many thanks,

Rob


On Thu, 20 May 2004 09:31:56 -0400, Mike Romain <romainm@sympatico.ca>
wrote:

>Your tank has a screen on the gas pickup line, but rust can get through
>it.
>
>Your problem usually happens when someone left the tank empty for
>extended periods and condensation killed it. It might really be dead or
>you might be able to flush it with a bunch of filters.
>
>For rust like that, you can likely use compressed air and back blow the
>filters. The first one is trash but the ones that fill up fast can be
>cleaned.
>
>This also doesn't say good things for the gas lines themselves.
>
>I have the 76L plastic tank on mine. The fuel pickup and the skid plate
>are different than the steel tank.
>
>If your tank is in good shape on the outside, there are places and kits
>you can buy to epoxy the inside of the tank. There used to be a place
>local to me that did them for $75.00 or something and Bike shops sell
>the kits for Bike gas tanks.
>
>Mike
>86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>
>Rob wrote:
>>
>> Well, the mystery is solved, but not without its own problems. The
>> owner says he changed filters just a couple weeks prior to my coming
>> to get the Jeep. In a desparation attempt, I changed the fuel filter
>> and sure enough, a bunch of rust came out of the old and it began
>> running fine with the new filter - for about 5 minutes then the same
>> problem.
>>
>> I'm assuming rust in the tank - do you guys recommend something to fix
>> this tak, replace with another metal tank, or going plastic?
>>
>> Any issues to be aware of if I go from 15 to 21 gallons?
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Rob
>>
>> On Mon, 17 May 2004 03:02:55 GMT, Rob <rob.mullins@verizon.com> wrote:
>>
>> >Guess I really have two questions - first about the over filled oil /
>> >blown seal. Second about how to diagnose the suddone failure to keep
>> >an idle.
>> >
>> >Thanks again,
>> >
>> >Rob
>> >
>> >
>> >On Mon, 17 May 2004 02:55:16 GMT, Rob <rob.mullins@verizon.com> wrote:
>> >
>> >>
>> >>I just returned from buying a CJ from about 280 miles away. While I
>> >>was there I tested everything and all was a-ok. I checked the fluids
>> >>and wanted to make sure everything was ok for the roadtrip home.
>> >>
>> >>Oil indicated a little low so we added a quart. Still showed low, but
>> >>the guy then says that the dripstick broke off and when he replaced it
>> >>he made his own markings - ok, so I can't go by the dipstick to tell
>> >>if its full or not.
>> >>
>> >>Close to home it started idling really rough at slow speeds or with
>> >>the clutch in. Soon it began to die completely with the clutch in.
>> >>
>> >>It's sat for a few hours, temps all back down and it still won't stay
>> >>running. There;s oil all over the valve cover and some puddled around
>> >>the intake manifold.
>> >>
>> >>I suspect there may have been too much oil. Question: If so, what
>> >>damage may have been done and how can I tell? I understand that in
>> >>some cars it may blow a seal. Knowing I'm going to look like an
>> >>idiot, can someone wlak me through how to diagnose a blown seal?
>> >>
>> >>Thanks a buch - it's painful to just come home and be excited about
>> >>the CJ and I can't even drive it!
>> >>
>> >>Rob
>> >>

Re: Help: CJ idle/running problem
 

I really appreciate your time and ideas in this thread. I'll dig into
the gas tank issue and decide which way to go. At least I have some
peace of mind now knowing why it wasn't running right.

Again, many thanks,

Rob


On Thu, 20 May 2004 09:31:56 -0400, Mike Romain <romainm@sympatico.ca>
wrote:

>Your tank has a screen on the gas pickup line, but rust can get through
>it.
>
>Your problem usually happens when someone left the tank empty for
>extended periods and condensation killed it. It might really be dead or
>you might be able to flush it with a bunch of filters.
>
>For rust like that, you can likely use compressed air and back blow the
>filters. The first one is trash but the ones that fill up fast can be
>cleaned.
>
>This also doesn't say good things for the gas lines themselves.
>
>I have the 76L plastic tank on mine. The fuel pickup and the skid plate
>are different than the steel tank.
>
>If your tank is in good shape on the outside, there are places and kits
>you can buy to epoxy the inside of the tank. There used to be a place
>local to me that did them for $75.00 or something and Bike shops sell
>the kits for Bike gas tanks.
>
>Mike
>86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>
>Rob wrote:
>>
>> Well, the mystery is solved, but not without its own problems. The
>> owner says he changed filters just a couple weeks prior to my coming
>> to get the Jeep. In a desparation attempt, I changed the fuel filter
>> and sure enough, a bunch of rust came out of the old and it began
>> running fine with the new filter - for about 5 minutes then the same
>> problem.
>>
>> I'm assuming rust in the tank - do you guys recommend something to fix
>> this tak, replace with another metal tank, or going plastic?
>>
>> Any issues to be aware of if I go from 15 to 21 gallons?
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Rob
>>
>> On Mon, 17 May 2004 03:02:55 GMT, Rob <rob.mullins@verizon.com> wrote:
>>
>> >Guess I really have two questions - first about the over filled oil /
>> >blown seal. Second about how to diagnose the suddone failure to keep
>> >an idle.
>> >
>> >Thanks again,
>> >
>> >Rob
>> >
>> >
>> >On Mon, 17 May 2004 02:55:16 GMT, Rob <rob.mullins@verizon.com> wrote:
>> >
>> >>
>> >>I just returned from buying a CJ from about 280 miles away. While I
>> >>was there I tested everything and all was a-ok. I checked the fluids
>> >>and wanted to make sure everything was ok for the roadtrip home.
>> >>
>> >>Oil indicated a little low so we added a quart. Still showed low, but
>> >>the guy then says that the dripstick broke off and when he replaced it
>> >>he made his own markings - ok, so I can't go by the dipstick to tell
>> >>if its full or not.
>> >>
>> >>Close to home it started idling really rough at slow speeds or with
>> >>the clutch in. Soon it began to die completely with the clutch in.
>> >>
>> >>It's sat for a few hours, temps all back down and it still won't stay
>> >>running. There;s oil all over the valve cover and some puddled around
>> >>the intake manifold.
>> >>
>> >>I suspect there may have been too much oil. Question: If so, what
>> >>damage may have been done and how can I tell? I understand that in
>> >>some cars it may blow a seal. Knowing I'm going to look like an
>> >>idiot, can someone wlak me through how to diagnose a blown seal?
>> >>
>> >>Thanks a buch - it's painful to just come home and be excited about
>> >>the CJ and I can't even drive it!
>> >>
>> >>Rob
>> >>

Re: Help: CJ idle/running problem
 

I really appreciate your time and ideas in this thread. I'll dig into
the gas tank issue and decide which way to go. At least I have some
peace of mind now knowing why it wasn't running right.

Again, many thanks,

Rob


On Thu, 20 May 2004 09:31:56 -0400, Mike Romain <romainm@sympatico.ca>
wrote:

>Your tank has a screen on the gas pickup line, but rust can get through
>it.
>
>Your problem usually happens when someone left the tank empty for
>extended periods and condensation killed it. It might really be dead or
>you might be able to flush it with a bunch of filters.
>
>For rust like that, you can likely use compressed air and back blow the
>filters. The first one is trash but the ones that fill up fast can be
>cleaned.
>
>This also doesn't say good things for the gas lines themselves.
>
>I have the 76L plastic tank on mine. The fuel pickup and the skid plate
>are different than the steel tank.
>
>If your tank is in good shape on the outside, there are places and kits
>you can buy to epoxy the inside of the tank. There used to be a place
>local to me that did them for $75.00 or something and Bike shops sell
>the kits for Bike gas tanks.
>
>Mike
>86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>
>Rob wrote:
>>
>> Well, the mystery is solved, but not without its own problems. The
>> owner says he changed filters just a couple weeks prior to my coming
>> to get the Jeep. In a desparation attempt, I changed the fuel filter
>> and sure enough, a bunch of rust came out of the old and it began
>> running fine with the new filter - for about 5 minutes then the same
>> problem.
>>
>> I'm assuming rust in the tank - do you guys recommend something to fix
>> this tak, replace with another metal tank, or going plastic?
>>
>> Any issues to be aware of if I go from 15 to 21 gallons?
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Rob
>>
>> On Mon, 17 May 2004 03:02:55 GMT, Rob <rob.mullins@verizon.com> wrote:
>>
>> >Guess I really have two questions - first about the over filled oil /
>> >blown seal. Second about how to diagnose the suddone failure to keep
>> >an idle.
>> >
>> >Thanks again,
>> >
>> >Rob
>> >
>> >
>> >On Mon, 17 May 2004 02:55:16 GMT, Rob <rob.mullins@verizon.com> wrote:
>> >
>> >>
>> >>I just returned from buying a CJ from about 280 miles away. While I
>> >>was there I tested everything and all was a-ok. I checked the fluids
>> >>and wanted to make sure everything was ok for the roadtrip home.
>> >>
>> >>Oil indicated a little low so we added a quart. Still showed low, but
>> >>the guy then says that the dripstick broke off and when he replaced it
>> >>he made his own markings - ok, so I can't go by the dipstick to tell
>> >>if its full or not.
>> >>
>> >>Close to home it started idling really rough at slow speeds or with
>> >>the clutch in. Soon it began to die completely with the clutch in.
>> >>
>> >>It's sat for a few hours, temps all back down and it still won't stay
>> >>running. There;s oil all over the valve cover and some puddled around
>> >>the intake manifold.
>> >>
>> >>I suspect there may have been too much oil. Question: If so, what
>> >>damage may have been done and how can I tell? I understand that in
>> >>some cars it may blow a seal. Knowing I'm going to look like an
>> >>idiot, can someone wlak me through how to diagnose a blown seal?
>> >>
>> >>Thanks a buch - it's painful to just come home and be excited about
>> >>the CJ and I can't even drive it!
>> >>
>> >>Rob
>> >>

Re: Help: CJ idle/running problem
 

You are welcome.

Mike

Rob wrote:
>
> I really appreciate your time and ideas in this thread. I'll dig into
> the gas tank issue and decide which way to go. At least I have some
> peace of mind now knowing why it wasn't running right.
>
> Again, many thanks,
>
> Rob
>
> On Thu, 20 May 2004 09:31:56 -0400, Mike Romain <romainm@sympatico.ca>
> wrote:
>
> >Your tank has a screen on the gas pickup line, but rust can get through
> >it.
> >
> >Your problem usually happens when someone left the tank empty for
> >extended periods and condensation killed it. It might really be dead or
> >you might be able to flush it with a bunch of filters.
> >
> >For rust like that, you can likely use compressed air and back blow the
> >filters. The first one is trash but the ones that fill up fast can be
> >cleaned.
> >
> >This also doesn't say good things for the gas lines themselves.
> >
> >I have the 76L plastic tank on mine. The fuel pickup and the skid plate
> >are different than the steel tank.
> >
> >If your tank is in good shape on the outside, there are places and kits
> >you can buy to epoxy the inside of the tank. There used to be a place
> >local to me that did them for $75.00 or something and Bike shops sell
> >the kits for Bike gas tanks.
> >
> >Mike
> >86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> >88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> >
> >Rob wrote:
> >>
> >> Well, the mystery is solved, but not without its own problems. The
> >> owner says he changed filters just a couple weeks prior to my coming
> >> to get the Jeep. In a desparation attempt, I changed the fuel filter
> >> and sure enough, a bunch of rust came out of the old and it began
> >> running fine with the new filter - for about 5 minutes then the same
> >> problem.
> >>
> >> I'm assuming rust in the tank - do you guys recommend something to fix
> >> this tak, replace with another metal tank, or going plastic?
> >>
> >> Any issues to be aware of if I go from 15 to 21 gallons?
> >>
> >> Thanks,
> >>
> >> Rob
> >>
> >> On Mon, 17 May 2004 03:02:55 GMT, Rob <rob.mullins@verizon.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> >Guess I really have two questions - first about the over filled oil /
> >> >blown seal. Second about how to diagnose the suddone failure to keep
> >> >an idle.
> >> >
> >> >Thanks again,
> >> >
> >> >Rob
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >On Mon, 17 May 2004 02:55:16 GMT, Rob <rob.mullins@verizon.com> wrote:
> >> >
> >> >>
> >> >>I just returned from buying a CJ from about 280 miles away. While I
> >> >>was there I tested everything and all was a-ok. I checked the fluids
> >> >>and wanted to make sure everything was ok for the roadtrip home.
> >> >>
> >> >>Oil indicated a little low so we added a quart. Still showed low, but
> >> >>the guy then says that the dripstick broke off and when he replaced it
> >> >>he made his own markings - ok, so I can't go by the dipstick to tell
> >> >>if its full or not.
> >> >>
> >> >>Close to home it started idling really rough at slow speeds or with
> >> >>the clutch in. Soon it began to die completely with the clutch in.
> >> >>
> >> >>It's sat for a few hours, temps all back down and it still won't stay
> >> >>running. There;s oil all over the valve cover and some puddled around
> >> >>the intake manifold.
> >> >>
> >> >>I suspect there may have been too much oil. Question: If so, what
> >> >>damage may have been done and how can I tell? I understand that in
> >> >>some cars it may blow a seal. Knowing I'm going to look like an
> >> >>idiot, can someone wlak me through how to diagnose a blown seal?
> >> >>
> >> >>Thanks a buch - it's painful to just come home and be excited about
> >> >>the CJ and I can't even drive it!
> >> >>
> >> >>Rob
> >> >>