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Re: OT: exploding fuel tanks
I recall seeing that on the news years ago.
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"Lon" <lon.stowell@comcast.net> wrote in message
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> Billy Ray proclaimed:
>
>> On TV every vehicle accident or collision ends in an exploding fuel tank.
>> In the 6 1/2 years I was a fireman I NEVER saw a gasoline or diesel fuel
>> tank explode. I have seen them rupture and burn but never explode.
>>
> Ah, you never had Stone Phillips around to add the obligatory squib to
> the gas tank to get one to explode. I've seen a couple, in all cases
> the tank only let go long after some other part of the vehicle caught
> on fire.
>
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"Lon" <lon.stowell@comcast.net> wrote in message
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> Billy Ray proclaimed:
>
>> On TV every vehicle accident or collision ends in an exploding fuel tank.
>> In the 6 1/2 years I was a fireman I NEVER saw a gasoline or diesel fuel
>> tank explode. I have seen them rupture and burn but never explode.
>>
> Ah, you never had Stone Phillips around to add the obligatory squib to
> the gas tank to get one to explode. I've seen a couple, in all cases
> the tank only let go long after some other part of the vehicle caught
> on fire.
>
#132
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Re: OT: exploding fuel tanks
I recall seeing that on the news years ago.
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"Lon" <lon.stowell@comcast.net> wrote in message
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> Billy Ray proclaimed:
>
>> On TV every vehicle accident or collision ends in an exploding fuel tank.
>> In the 6 1/2 years I was a fireman I NEVER saw a gasoline or diesel fuel
>> tank explode. I have seen them rupture and burn but never explode.
>>
> Ah, you never had Stone Phillips around to add the obligatory squib to
> the gas tank to get one to explode. I've seen a couple, in all cases
> the tank only let go long after some other part of the vehicle caught
> on fire.
>
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"Lon" <lon.stowell@comcast.net> wrote in message
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> Billy Ray proclaimed:
>
>> On TV every vehicle accident or collision ends in an exploding fuel tank.
>> In the 6 1/2 years I was a fireman I NEVER saw a gasoline or diesel fuel
>> tank explode. I have seen them rupture and burn but never explode.
>>
> Ah, you never had Stone Phillips around to add the obligatory squib to
> the gas tank to get one to explode. I've seen a couple, in all cases
> the tank only let go long after some other part of the vehicle caught
> on fire.
>
#133
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Re: OT: exploding fuel tanks
I recall seeing that on the news years ago.
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"Lon" <lon.stowell@comcast.net> wrote in message
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> Billy Ray proclaimed:
>
>> On TV every vehicle accident or collision ends in an exploding fuel tank.
>> In the 6 1/2 years I was a fireman I NEVER saw a gasoline or diesel fuel
>> tank explode. I have seen them rupture and burn but never explode.
>>
> Ah, you never had Stone Phillips around to add the obligatory squib to
> the gas tank to get one to explode. I've seen a couple, in all cases
> the tank only let go long after some other part of the vehicle caught
> on fire.
>
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"Lon" <lon.stowell@comcast.net> wrote in message
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> Billy Ray proclaimed:
>
>> On TV every vehicle accident or collision ends in an exploding fuel tank.
>> In the 6 1/2 years I was a fireman I NEVER saw a gasoline or diesel fuel
>> tank explode. I have seen them rupture and burn but never explode.
>>
> Ah, you never had Stone Phillips around to add the obligatory squib to
> the gas tank to get one to explode. I've seen a couple, in all cases
> the tank only let go long after some other part of the vehicle caught
> on fire.
>
#134
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Re: OT: exploding fuel tanks
Not that this has fark-all to do with Jeeps, but... Cars explode on
teevee and in movies because it Looks! Cool!, not because it has
anything to do with reality, as you know from experience. Not a lot of
car chases end up 1) on a roll-over on a city street (as was the
standard in the 1970s and 80s) or 2) by plowing through a push-cart full
of fruit, either. One could list things that movies don't do "right"
until the cows come home: Gun sounds, animal behaviour, computer sounds
and graphics, any number of explosion F/X, rain, medical proceedures,
car sounds (squealing tires on sand), building fires without smoke,
vintage aircraft, and on and on. Most of those mistakes are because
there's a preception that audiences expect it, it makes the shot more
"exciting" for the producer (it isn't exciting if the stunned Hero
crawls out of the wreck and stumble away from something that just _sits_
there), or, sometimes, simple misinformation based on watching too many
movies and not enough looking out the window (or, "we always do it that
way"). Cars _always_ explode, right?
Billy Ray wrote:
> On TV every vehicle accident or collision ends in an exploding fuel tank.
> In the 6 1/2 years I was a fireman I NEVER saw a gasoline or diesel fuel
> tank explode. I have seen them rupture and burn but never explode.
>
teevee and in movies because it Looks! Cool!, not because it has
anything to do with reality, as you know from experience. Not a lot of
car chases end up 1) on a roll-over on a city street (as was the
standard in the 1970s and 80s) or 2) by plowing through a push-cart full
of fruit, either. One could list things that movies don't do "right"
until the cows come home: Gun sounds, animal behaviour, computer sounds
and graphics, any number of explosion F/X, rain, medical proceedures,
car sounds (squealing tires on sand), building fires without smoke,
vintage aircraft, and on and on. Most of those mistakes are because
there's a preception that audiences expect it, it makes the shot more
"exciting" for the producer (it isn't exciting if the stunned Hero
crawls out of the wreck and stumble away from something that just _sits_
there), or, sometimes, simple misinformation based on watching too many
movies and not enough looking out the window (or, "we always do it that
way"). Cars _always_ explode, right?
Billy Ray wrote:
> On TV every vehicle accident or collision ends in an exploding fuel tank.
> In the 6 1/2 years I was a fireman I NEVER saw a gasoline or diesel fuel
> tank explode. I have seen them rupture and burn but never explode.
>
#135
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Re: OT: exploding fuel tanks
Not that this has fark-all to do with Jeeps, but... Cars explode on
teevee and in movies because it Looks! Cool!, not because it has
anything to do with reality, as you know from experience. Not a lot of
car chases end up 1) on a roll-over on a city street (as was the
standard in the 1970s and 80s) or 2) by plowing through a push-cart full
of fruit, either. One could list things that movies don't do "right"
until the cows come home: Gun sounds, animal behaviour, computer sounds
and graphics, any number of explosion F/X, rain, medical proceedures,
car sounds (squealing tires on sand), building fires without smoke,
vintage aircraft, and on and on. Most of those mistakes are because
there's a preception that audiences expect it, it makes the shot more
"exciting" for the producer (it isn't exciting if the stunned Hero
crawls out of the wreck and stumble away from something that just _sits_
there), or, sometimes, simple misinformation based on watching too many
movies and not enough looking out the window (or, "we always do it that
way"). Cars _always_ explode, right?
Billy Ray wrote:
> On TV every vehicle accident or collision ends in an exploding fuel tank.
> In the 6 1/2 years I was a fireman I NEVER saw a gasoline or diesel fuel
> tank explode. I have seen them rupture and burn but never explode.
>
teevee and in movies because it Looks! Cool!, not because it has
anything to do with reality, as you know from experience. Not a lot of
car chases end up 1) on a roll-over on a city street (as was the
standard in the 1970s and 80s) or 2) by plowing through a push-cart full
of fruit, either. One could list things that movies don't do "right"
until the cows come home: Gun sounds, animal behaviour, computer sounds
and graphics, any number of explosion F/X, rain, medical proceedures,
car sounds (squealing tires on sand), building fires without smoke,
vintage aircraft, and on and on. Most of those mistakes are because
there's a preception that audiences expect it, it makes the shot more
"exciting" for the producer (it isn't exciting if the stunned Hero
crawls out of the wreck and stumble away from something that just _sits_
there), or, sometimes, simple misinformation based on watching too many
movies and not enough looking out the window (or, "we always do it that
way"). Cars _always_ explode, right?
Billy Ray wrote:
> On TV every vehicle accident or collision ends in an exploding fuel tank.
> In the 6 1/2 years I was a fireman I NEVER saw a gasoline or diesel fuel
> tank explode. I have seen them rupture and burn but never explode.
>
#136
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Re: OT: exploding fuel tanks
Not that this has fark-all to do with Jeeps, but... Cars explode on
teevee and in movies because it Looks! Cool!, not because it has
anything to do with reality, as you know from experience. Not a lot of
car chases end up 1) on a roll-over on a city street (as was the
standard in the 1970s and 80s) or 2) by plowing through a push-cart full
of fruit, either. One could list things that movies don't do "right"
until the cows come home: Gun sounds, animal behaviour, computer sounds
and graphics, any number of explosion F/X, rain, medical proceedures,
car sounds (squealing tires on sand), building fires without smoke,
vintage aircraft, and on and on. Most of those mistakes are because
there's a preception that audiences expect it, it makes the shot more
"exciting" for the producer (it isn't exciting if the stunned Hero
crawls out of the wreck and stumble away from something that just _sits_
there), or, sometimes, simple misinformation based on watching too many
movies and not enough looking out the window (or, "we always do it that
way"). Cars _always_ explode, right?
Billy Ray wrote:
> On TV every vehicle accident or collision ends in an exploding fuel tank.
> In the 6 1/2 years I was a fireman I NEVER saw a gasoline or diesel fuel
> tank explode. I have seen them rupture and burn but never explode.
>
teevee and in movies because it Looks! Cool!, not because it has
anything to do with reality, as you know from experience. Not a lot of
car chases end up 1) on a roll-over on a city street (as was the
standard in the 1970s and 80s) or 2) by plowing through a push-cart full
of fruit, either. One could list things that movies don't do "right"
until the cows come home: Gun sounds, animal behaviour, computer sounds
and graphics, any number of explosion F/X, rain, medical proceedures,
car sounds (squealing tires on sand), building fires without smoke,
vintage aircraft, and on and on. Most of those mistakes are because
there's a preception that audiences expect it, it makes the shot more
"exciting" for the producer (it isn't exciting if the stunned Hero
crawls out of the wreck and stumble away from something that just _sits_
there), or, sometimes, simple misinformation based on watching too many
movies and not enough looking out the window (or, "we always do it that
way"). Cars _always_ explode, right?
Billy Ray wrote:
> On TV every vehicle accident or collision ends in an exploding fuel tank.
> In the 6 1/2 years I was a fireman I NEVER saw a gasoline or diesel fuel
> tank explode. I have seen them rupture and burn but never explode.
>
#137
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Re: Headers
Did you put them on your CJ? 258? I just put a remanned 258 in my CJ,
difference in power from the 24 year old engine was amazing, was thinking of
headers too, if yes to the above, what kind did you go with?
Greg
"Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:0b-dnSAZkIfMX6feRVn-3g@ez2.net...
> They won't help your TJ very much, but if you have a CJ or YJ they'll help
> alot!
>
> The TJ already has a vastly improved exhaust tract, and unless yours is
> broken, don't screw with it. If yout TJ has an exhaust manifold (header)
> with a bellows on the end, it is already about the best you can do.
>
>
>
>
> "Troy" <troy@ .> wrote in message
> news:BJmdnQBFmYqcXaTeRVn-iQ@comcast.com...
>> Saw on quadratec.com borla headers for my tj, at $478.95! Not sure if
>> this price is high or not for headers, but are they worth it? How much
>> power can I expect? Also, wouldn't I have to change the rest of my pipes
>> to get anything out of it? This jeep is the first vehicle I've owned
>> that I've started working on, I've really learned alot but I just have no
>> experience with "performance" headers... Seems to me that after the
>> headers I would have to upgrade my entire exhaust back to the end...
>>
>> Troy
>>
>
difference in power from the 24 year old engine was amazing, was thinking of
headers too, if yes to the above, what kind did you go with?
Greg
"Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:0b-dnSAZkIfMX6feRVn-3g@ez2.net...
> They won't help your TJ very much, but if you have a CJ or YJ they'll help
> alot!
>
> The TJ already has a vastly improved exhaust tract, and unless yours is
> broken, don't screw with it. If yout TJ has an exhaust manifold (header)
> with a bellows on the end, it is already about the best you can do.
>
>
>
>
> "Troy" <troy@ .> wrote in message
> news:BJmdnQBFmYqcXaTeRVn-iQ@comcast.com...
>> Saw on quadratec.com borla headers for my tj, at $478.95! Not sure if
>> this price is high or not for headers, but are they worth it? How much
>> power can I expect? Also, wouldn't I have to change the rest of my pipes
>> to get anything out of it? This jeep is the first vehicle I've owned
>> that I've started working on, I've really learned alot but I just have no
>> experience with "performance" headers... Seems to me that after the
>> headers I would have to upgrade my entire exhaust back to the end...
>>
>> Troy
>>
>
#138
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Re: Headers
Did you put them on your CJ? 258? I just put a remanned 258 in my CJ,
difference in power from the 24 year old engine was amazing, was thinking of
headers too, if yes to the above, what kind did you go with?
Greg
"Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:0b-dnSAZkIfMX6feRVn-3g@ez2.net...
> They won't help your TJ very much, but if you have a CJ or YJ they'll help
> alot!
>
> The TJ already has a vastly improved exhaust tract, and unless yours is
> broken, don't screw with it. If yout TJ has an exhaust manifold (header)
> with a bellows on the end, it is already about the best you can do.
>
>
>
>
> "Troy" <troy@ .> wrote in message
> news:BJmdnQBFmYqcXaTeRVn-iQ@comcast.com...
>> Saw on quadratec.com borla headers for my tj, at $478.95! Not sure if
>> this price is high or not for headers, but are they worth it? How much
>> power can I expect? Also, wouldn't I have to change the rest of my pipes
>> to get anything out of it? This jeep is the first vehicle I've owned
>> that I've started working on, I've really learned alot but I just have no
>> experience with "performance" headers... Seems to me that after the
>> headers I would have to upgrade my entire exhaust back to the end...
>>
>> Troy
>>
>
difference in power from the 24 year old engine was amazing, was thinking of
headers too, if yes to the above, what kind did you go with?
Greg
"Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:0b-dnSAZkIfMX6feRVn-3g@ez2.net...
> They won't help your TJ very much, but if you have a CJ or YJ they'll help
> alot!
>
> The TJ already has a vastly improved exhaust tract, and unless yours is
> broken, don't screw with it. If yout TJ has an exhaust manifold (header)
> with a bellows on the end, it is already about the best you can do.
>
>
>
>
> "Troy" <troy@ .> wrote in message
> news:BJmdnQBFmYqcXaTeRVn-iQ@comcast.com...
>> Saw on quadratec.com borla headers for my tj, at $478.95! Not sure if
>> this price is high or not for headers, but are they worth it? How much
>> power can I expect? Also, wouldn't I have to change the rest of my pipes
>> to get anything out of it? This jeep is the first vehicle I've owned
>> that I've started working on, I've really learned alot but I just have no
>> experience with "performance" headers... Seems to me that after the
>> headers I would have to upgrade my entire exhaust back to the end...
>>
>> Troy
>>
>
#139
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Re: Headers
Did you put them on your CJ? 258? I just put a remanned 258 in my CJ,
difference in power from the 24 year old engine was amazing, was thinking of
headers too, if yes to the above, what kind did you go with?
Greg
"Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:0b-dnSAZkIfMX6feRVn-3g@ez2.net...
> They won't help your TJ very much, but if you have a CJ or YJ they'll help
> alot!
>
> The TJ already has a vastly improved exhaust tract, and unless yours is
> broken, don't screw with it. If yout TJ has an exhaust manifold (header)
> with a bellows on the end, it is already about the best you can do.
>
>
>
>
> "Troy" <troy@ .> wrote in message
> news:BJmdnQBFmYqcXaTeRVn-iQ@comcast.com...
>> Saw on quadratec.com borla headers for my tj, at $478.95! Not sure if
>> this price is high or not for headers, but are they worth it? How much
>> power can I expect? Also, wouldn't I have to change the rest of my pipes
>> to get anything out of it? This jeep is the first vehicle I've owned
>> that I've started working on, I've really learned alot but I just have no
>> experience with "performance" headers... Seems to me that after the
>> headers I would have to upgrade my entire exhaust back to the end...
>>
>> Troy
>>
>
difference in power from the 24 year old engine was amazing, was thinking of
headers too, if yes to the above, what kind did you go with?
Greg
"Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:0b-dnSAZkIfMX6feRVn-3g@ez2.net...
> They won't help your TJ very much, but if you have a CJ or YJ they'll help
> alot!
>
> The TJ already has a vastly improved exhaust tract, and unless yours is
> broken, don't screw with it. If yout TJ has an exhaust manifold (header)
> with a bellows on the end, it is already about the best you can do.
>
>
>
>
> "Troy" <troy@ .> wrote in message
> news:BJmdnQBFmYqcXaTeRVn-iQ@comcast.com...
>> Saw on quadratec.com borla headers for my tj, at $478.95! Not sure if
>> this price is high or not for headers, but are they worth it? How much
>> power can I expect? Also, wouldn't I have to change the rest of my pipes
>> to get anything out of it? This jeep is the first vehicle I've owned
>> that I've started working on, I've really learned alot but I just have no
>> experience with "performance" headers... Seems to me that after the
>> headers I would have to upgrade my entire exhaust back to the end...
>>
>> Troy
>>
>
#140
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Re: OT: exploding fuel tanks
I watched a Bollywood movie, where the horse went over the cliff, and
exploded into flames.
Earle
"Lee Ayrton" <layrton@panix.com> wrote in message
news:dhglv4$6ns$1@reader1.panix.com...
> Not that this has fark-all to do with Jeeps, but... Cars explode on
> teevee and in movies because it Looks! Cool!, not because it has
> anything to do with reality, as you know from experience. Not a lot of
> car chases end up 1) on a roll-over on a city street (as was the
> standard in the 1970s and 80s) or 2) by plowing through a push-cart full
> of fruit, either. One could list things that movies don't do "right"
> until the cows come home: Gun sounds, animal behaviour, computer sounds
> and graphics, any number of explosion F/X, rain, medical proceedures,
> car sounds (squealing tires on sand), building fires without smoke,
> vintage aircraft, and on and on. Most of those mistakes are because
> there's a preception that audiences expect it, it makes the shot more
> "exciting" for the producer (it isn't exciting if the stunned Hero
> crawls out of the wreck and stumble away from something that just _sits_
> there), or, sometimes, simple misinformation based on watching too many
> movies and not enough looking out the window (or, "we always do it that
> way"). Cars _always_ explode, right?
>
>
> Billy Ray wrote:
> > On TV every vehicle accident or collision ends in an exploding fuel
tank.
> > In the 6 1/2 years I was a fireman I NEVER saw a gasoline or diesel fuel
> > tank explode. I have seen them rupture and burn but never explode.
> >
exploded into flames.
Earle
"Lee Ayrton" <layrton@panix.com> wrote in message
news:dhglv4$6ns$1@reader1.panix.com...
> Not that this has fark-all to do with Jeeps, but... Cars explode on
> teevee and in movies because it Looks! Cool!, not because it has
> anything to do with reality, as you know from experience. Not a lot of
> car chases end up 1) on a roll-over on a city street (as was the
> standard in the 1970s and 80s) or 2) by plowing through a push-cart full
> of fruit, either. One could list things that movies don't do "right"
> until the cows come home: Gun sounds, animal behaviour, computer sounds
> and graphics, any number of explosion F/X, rain, medical proceedures,
> car sounds (squealing tires on sand), building fires without smoke,
> vintage aircraft, and on and on. Most of those mistakes are because
> there's a preception that audiences expect it, it makes the shot more
> "exciting" for the producer (it isn't exciting if the stunned Hero
> crawls out of the wreck and stumble away from something that just _sits_
> there), or, sometimes, simple misinformation based on watching too many
> movies and not enough looking out the window (or, "we always do it that
> way"). Cars _always_ explode, right?
>
>
> Billy Ray wrote:
> > On TV every vehicle accident or collision ends in an exploding fuel
tank.
> > In the 6 1/2 years I was a fireman I NEVER saw a gasoline or diesel fuel
> > tank explode. I have seen them rupture and burn but never explode.
> >