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#91
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Re: Headers
Not by the time it gets to the dynamometer treadmill.
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Billy Ray wrote:
>
> It shows a max HP (chipped) of 184 and 172 (non chipped)
>
> Isn't the base 4.7 supposed to have 235 hp?
>
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> 2002 Jeep WJ 4 Liter Automatic
> Sharing is why we are all here....... or should be.
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Billy Ray wrote:
>
> It shows a max HP (chipped) of 184 and 172 (non chipped)
>
> Isn't the base 4.7 supposed to have 235 hp?
>
> --
> .
> Billy_Ray@SPAM.fuse.net (remove SPAM)
> 2002 Jeep WJ 4 Liter Automatic
> Sharing is why we are all here....... or should be.
#92
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Re: Nitrous Oxide
No Diesel exhaust stack: http://www.----------.com/temp/busFire.jpg
> It's obviously by the one large gas explosion, listen to the
> narrator:
> http://mfile.akamai.com/12880/wmv/vo...11832.200k.asx
> By the style of the bus, we can tell it isn't a Greyhound diesel
> burning, and by the owner: Sunrise Senior Living, of McLean, Va, reeks
> of clean air subsidies: http://www.----------.com/temp/busFire.jpg
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:--------------------
>
> Bret Ludwig wrote:
> >
> > Where is your evidence it was a CNG bus...and if it was that the CNG
> > had anything to do with it?
> It's obviously by the one large gas explosion, listen to the
> narrator:
> http://mfile.akamai.com/12880/wmv/vo...11832.200k.asx
> By the style of the bus, we can tell it isn't a Greyhound diesel
> burning, and by the owner: Sunrise Senior Living, of McLean, Va, reeks
> of clean air subsidies: http://www.----------.com/temp/busFire.jpg
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:--------------------
>
> Bret Ludwig wrote:
> >
> > Where is your evidence it was a CNG bus...and if it was that the CNG
> > had anything to do with it?
#93
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Re: Nitrous Oxide
No Diesel exhaust stack: http://www.----------.com/temp/busFire.jpg
> It's obviously by the one large gas explosion, listen to the
> narrator:
> http://mfile.akamai.com/12880/wmv/vo...11832.200k.asx
> By the style of the bus, we can tell it isn't a Greyhound diesel
> burning, and by the owner: Sunrise Senior Living, of McLean, Va, reeks
> of clean air subsidies: http://www.----------.com/temp/busFire.jpg
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:--------------------
>
> Bret Ludwig wrote:
> >
> > Where is your evidence it was a CNG bus...and if it was that the CNG
> > had anything to do with it?
> It's obviously by the one large gas explosion, listen to the
> narrator:
> http://mfile.akamai.com/12880/wmv/vo...11832.200k.asx
> By the style of the bus, we can tell it isn't a Greyhound diesel
> burning, and by the owner: Sunrise Senior Living, of McLean, Va, reeks
> of clean air subsidies: http://www.----------.com/temp/busFire.jpg
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:--------------------
>
> Bret Ludwig wrote:
> >
> > Where is your evidence it was a CNG bus...and if it was that the CNG
> > had anything to do with it?
#94
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Re: Nitrous Oxide
No Diesel exhaust stack: http://www.----------.com/temp/busFire.jpg
> It's obviously by the one large gas explosion, listen to the
> narrator:
> http://mfile.akamai.com/12880/wmv/vo...11832.200k.asx
> By the style of the bus, we can tell it isn't a Greyhound diesel
> burning, and by the owner: Sunrise Senior Living, of McLean, Va, reeks
> of clean air subsidies: http://www.----------.com/temp/busFire.jpg
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:--------------------
>
> Bret Ludwig wrote:
> >
> > Where is your evidence it was a CNG bus...and if it was that the CNG
> > had anything to do with it?
> It's obviously by the one large gas explosion, listen to the
> narrator:
> http://mfile.akamai.com/12880/wmv/vo...11832.200k.asx
> By the style of the bus, we can tell it isn't a Greyhound diesel
> burning, and by the owner: Sunrise Senior Living, of McLean, Va, reeks
> of clean air subsidies: http://www.----------.com/temp/busFire.jpg
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:--------------------
>
> Bret Ludwig wrote:
> >
> > Where is your evidence it was a CNG bus...and if it was that the CNG
> > had anything to do with it?
#95
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Re: Headers
I think the manifold on the XJ *is* the same, its the front pipes that are
different.
--
Dave Milne, Scotland
'91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
"Billy Ray" <Billy_Ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message
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> Well.... shows what I know. I am only familiar with the manifolds on the
> XJ, ZJ,and WJ models and assumed incorrectly that they were the same..
>
> --
> .
> Billy_Ray@SPAM.fuse.net (remove SPAM)
> 2002 Jeep WJ 4 Liter Automatic
> Sharing is why we are all here....... or should be.
> .
> "Dave Milne" <jeep@_nospam_milne.info> wrote in message
> news:mBo_e.117082$G8.29700@text.news.blueyonder.co .uk...
> > the exhaust's route round the front of the engine is fairly restrictive;
I
> > think that is one of the reasons the XJs put out more hp than the TJs
for
> > the same engine.
> >
> > Dave Milne, Scotland
> > '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
> >
> > "Billy Ray" <Billy_Ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message
> > news:3972d$4339e404$d8449845$10873@FUSE.NET...
> >> The short story is your Jeep Intake and exhaust manifolds are pretty
good
> >> (better than most).
> >
> >
>
>
different.
--
Dave Milne, Scotland
'91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
"Billy Ray" <Billy_Ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message
news:9a46d$433a255f$d8449845$29846@FUSE.NET...
> Well.... shows what I know. I am only familiar with the manifolds on the
> XJ, ZJ,and WJ models and assumed incorrectly that they were the same..
>
> --
> .
> Billy_Ray@SPAM.fuse.net (remove SPAM)
> 2002 Jeep WJ 4 Liter Automatic
> Sharing is why we are all here....... or should be.
> .
> "Dave Milne" <jeep@_nospam_milne.info> wrote in message
> news:mBo_e.117082$G8.29700@text.news.blueyonder.co .uk...
> > the exhaust's route round the front of the engine is fairly restrictive;
I
> > think that is one of the reasons the XJs put out more hp than the TJs
for
> > the same engine.
> >
> > Dave Milne, Scotland
> > '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
> >
> > "Billy Ray" <Billy_Ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message
> > news:3972d$4339e404$d8449845$10873@FUSE.NET...
> >> The short story is your Jeep Intake and exhaust manifolds are pretty
good
> >> (better than most).
> >
> >
>
>
#96
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Re: Headers
I think the manifold on the XJ *is* the same, its the front pipes that are
different.
--
Dave Milne, Scotland
'91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
"Billy Ray" <Billy_Ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message
news:9a46d$433a255f$d8449845$29846@FUSE.NET...
> Well.... shows what I know. I am only familiar with the manifolds on the
> XJ, ZJ,and WJ models and assumed incorrectly that they were the same..
>
> --
> .
> Billy_Ray@SPAM.fuse.net (remove SPAM)
> 2002 Jeep WJ 4 Liter Automatic
> Sharing is why we are all here....... or should be.
> .
> "Dave Milne" <jeep@_nospam_milne.info> wrote in message
> news:mBo_e.117082$G8.29700@text.news.blueyonder.co .uk...
> > the exhaust's route round the front of the engine is fairly restrictive;
I
> > think that is one of the reasons the XJs put out more hp than the TJs
for
> > the same engine.
> >
> > Dave Milne, Scotland
> > '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
> >
> > "Billy Ray" <Billy_Ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message
> > news:3972d$4339e404$d8449845$10873@FUSE.NET...
> >> The short story is your Jeep Intake and exhaust manifolds are pretty
good
> >> (better than most).
> >
> >
>
>
different.
--
Dave Milne, Scotland
'91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
"Billy Ray" <Billy_Ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message
news:9a46d$433a255f$d8449845$29846@FUSE.NET...
> Well.... shows what I know. I am only familiar with the manifolds on the
> XJ, ZJ,and WJ models and assumed incorrectly that they were the same..
>
> --
> .
> Billy_Ray@SPAM.fuse.net (remove SPAM)
> 2002 Jeep WJ 4 Liter Automatic
> Sharing is why we are all here....... or should be.
> .
> "Dave Milne" <jeep@_nospam_milne.info> wrote in message
> news:mBo_e.117082$G8.29700@text.news.blueyonder.co .uk...
> > the exhaust's route round the front of the engine is fairly restrictive;
I
> > think that is one of the reasons the XJs put out more hp than the TJs
for
> > the same engine.
> >
> > Dave Milne, Scotland
> > '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
> >
> > "Billy Ray" <Billy_Ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message
> > news:3972d$4339e404$d8449845$10873@FUSE.NET...
> >> The short story is your Jeep Intake and exhaust manifolds are pretty
good
> >> (better than most).
> >
> >
>
>
#97
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Re: Headers
I think the manifold on the XJ *is* the same, its the front pipes that are
different.
--
Dave Milne, Scotland
'91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
"Billy Ray" <Billy_Ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message
news:9a46d$433a255f$d8449845$29846@FUSE.NET...
> Well.... shows what I know. I am only familiar with the manifolds on the
> XJ, ZJ,and WJ models and assumed incorrectly that they were the same..
>
> --
> .
> Billy_Ray@SPAM.fuse.net (remove SPAM)
> 2002 Jeep WJ 4 Liter Automatic
> Sharing is why we are all here....... or should be.
> .
> "Dave Milne" <jeep@_nospam_milne.info> wrote in message
> news:mBo_e.117082$G8.29700@text.news.blueyonder.co .uk...
> > the exhaust's route round the front of the engine is fairly restrictive;
I
> > think that is one of the reasons the XJs put out more hp than the TJs
for
> > the same engine.
> >
> > Dave Milne, Scotland
> > '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
> >
> > "Billy Ray" <Billy_Ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message
> > news:3972d$4339e404$d8449845$10873@FUSE.NET...
> >> The short story is your Jeep Intake and exhaust manifolds are pretty
good
> >> (better than most).
> >
> >
>
>
different.
--
Dave Milne, Scotland
'91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
"Billy Ray" <Billy_Ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message
news:9a46d$433a255f$d8449845$29846@FUSE.NET...
> Well.... shows what I know. I am only familiar with the manifolds on the
> XJ, ZJ,and WJ models and assumed incorrectly that they were the same..
>
> --
> .
> Billy_Ray@SPAM.fuse.net (remove SPAM)
> 2002 Jeep WJ 4 Liter Automatic
> Sharing is why we are all here....... or should be.
> .
> "Dave Milne" <jeep@_nospam_milne.info> wrote in message
> news:mBo_e.117082$G8.29700@text.news.blueyonder.co .uk...
> > the exhaust's route round the front of the engine is fairly restrictive;
I
> > think that is one of the reasons the XJs put out more hp than the TJs
for
> > the same engine.
> >
> > Dave Milne, Scotland
> > '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
> >
> > "Billy Ray" <Billy_Ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message
> > news:3972d$4339e404$d8449845$10873@FUSE.NET...
> >> The short story is your Jeep Intake and exhaust manifolds are pretty
good
> >> (better than most).
> >
> >
>
>
#98
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Re: Nitrous Oxide
When I was living in the Seattle area, the Seattle bus fleet was in the
process of being converted to LNG, ostensibly to clean up the air and to
save money. When it was found that LNG buses run as dirty as diesel, and
cost more to operate into the bargain, the city went ahead with converting
anyway. It was felt that the perception of cleanliness and environmental
friendliness, was more important than the reality.
Earle
"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:433A48AC.27C3E749@***.net...
> It's obviously by the one large gas explosion, listen to the
> narrator:
> http://mfile.akamai.com/12880/wmv/vo...11832.200k.asx
> By the style of the bus, we can tell it isn't a Greyhound diesel
> burning, and by the owner: Sunrise Senior Living, of McLean, Va, reeks
> of clean air subsidies: http://www.----------.com/temp/busFire.jpg
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:--------------------
>
> Bret Ludwig wrote:
> >
> > Where is your evidence it was a CNG bus...and if it was that the CNG
> > had anything to do with it?
>
process of being converted to LNG, ostensibly to clean up the air and to
save money. When it was found that LNG buses run as dirty as diesel, and
cost more to operate into the bargain, the city went ahead with converting
anyway. It was felt that the perception of cleanliness and environmental
friendliness, was more important than the reality.
Earle
"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:433A48AC.27C3E749@***.net...
> It's obviously by the one large gas explosion, listen to the
> narrator:
> http://mfile.akamai.com/12880/wmv/vo...11832.200k.asx
> By the style of the bus, we can tell it isn't a Greyhound diesel
> burning, and by the owner: Sunrise Senior Living, of McLean, Va, reeks
> of clean air subsidies: http://www.----------.com/temp/busFire.jpg
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:--------------------
>
> Bret Ludwig wrote:
> >
> > Where is your evidence it was a CNG bus...and if it was that the CNG
> > had anything to do with it?
>
#99
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Re: Nitrous Oxide
When I was living in the Seattle area, the Seattle bus fleet was in the
process of being converted to LNG, ostensibly to clean up the air and to
save money. When it was found that LNG buses run as dirty as diesel, and
cost more to operate into the bargain, the city went ahead with converting
anyway. It was felt that the perception of cleanliness and environmental
friendliness, was more important than the reality.
Earle
"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:433A48AC.27C3E749@***.net...
> It's obviously by the one large gas explosion, listen to the
> narrator:
> http://mfile.akamai.com/12880/wmv/vo...11832.200k.asx
> By the style of the bus, we can tell it isn't a Greyhound diesel
> burning, and by the owner: Sunrise Senior Living, of McLean, Va, reeks
> of clean air subsidies: http://www.----------.com/temp/busFire.jpg
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:--------------------
>
> Bret Ludwig wrote:
> >
> > Where is your evidence it was a CNG bus...and if it was that the CNG
> > had anything to do with it?
>
process of being converted to LNG, ostensibly to clean up the air and to
save money. When it was found that LNG buses run as dirty as diesel, and
cost more to operate into the bargain, the city went ahead with converting
anyway. It was felt that the perception of cleanliness and environmental
friendliness, was more important than the reality.
Earle
"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:433A48AC.27C3E749@***.net...
> It's obviously by the one large gas explosion, listen to the
> narrator:
> http://mfile.akamai.com/12880/wmv/vo...11832.200k.asx
> By the style of the bus, we can tell it isn't a Greyhound diesel
> burning, and by the owner: Sunrise Senior Living, of McLean, Va, reeks
> of clean air subsidies: http://www.----------.com/temp/busFire.jpg
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:--------------------
>
> Bret Ludwig wrote:
> >
> > Where is your evidence it was a CNG bus...and if it was that the CNG
> > had anything to do with it?
>
#100
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Re: Nitrous Oxide
When I was living in the Seattle area, the Seattle bus fleet was in the
process of being converted to LNG, ostensibly to clean up the air and to
save money. When it was found that LNG buses run as dirty as diesel, and
cost more to operate into the bargain, the city went ahead with converting
anyway. It was felt that the perception of cleanliness and environmental
friendliness, was more important than the reality.
Earle
"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:433A48AC.27C3E749@***.net...
> It's obviously by the one large gas explosion, listen to the
> narrator:
> http://mfile.akamai.com/12880/wmv/vo...11832.200k.asx
> By the style of the bus, we can tell it isn't a Greyhound diesel
> burning, and by the owner: Sunrise Senior Living, of McLean, Va, reeks
> of clean air subsidies: http://www.----------.com/temp/busFire.jpg
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:--------------------
>
> Bret Ludwig wrote:
> >
> > Where is your evidence it was a CNG bus...and if it was that the CNG
> > had anything to do with it?
>
process of being converted to LNG, ostensibly to clean up the air and to
save money. When it was found that LNG buses run as dirty as diesel, and
cost more to operate into the bargain, the city went ahead with converting
anyway. It was felt that the perception of cleanliness and environmental
friendliness, was more important than the reality.
Earle
"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:433A48AC.27C3E749@***.net...
> It's obviously by the one large gas explosion, listen to the
> narrator:
> http://mfile.akamai.com/12880/wmv/vo...11832.200k.asx
> By the style of the bus, we can tell it isn't a Greyhound diesel
> burning, and by the owner: Sunrise Senior Living, of McLean, Va, reeks
> of clean air subsidies: http://www.----------.com/temp/busFire.jpg
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:--------------------
>
> Bret Ludwig wrote:
> >
> > Where is your evidence it was a CNG bus...and if it was that the CNG
> > had anything to do with it?
>