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Don Hamilton 02-13-2007 08:22 PM

Front U-joints
 
I was going to change my u-joints on my 05 Rubicon (70,000 miles) and after
removing the rotors there are some male torx type bolts that need to come
out next. My question what is the proper tool for these? Is some type of
axel puller also needed to get the shaft out? I have a clatter type rattle
mainly when turning both locked and free. I have jacked the car and cannot
find any thing loose, shocks, torsion, exhaust. It seems to come from the
right front. I have not checked the rear but cannot believe my ears could be
that far off. The u-joints have a small amount of play and I feel with my
mileage it wouldn't hurt. That way I could get some correct spares as well.
All advice appreciated. Don



DougW 02-13-2007 08:36 PM

Re: Front U-joints
 
Don Hamilton wrote:
> I was going to change my u-joints on my 05 Rubicon (70,000 miles) and
> after removing the rotors there are some male torx type bolts that
> need to come out next. My question what is the proper tool for these?
> Is some type of axel puller also needed to get the shaft out? I have
> a clatter type rattle mainly when turning both locked and free. I
> have jacked the car and cannot find any thing loose, shocks, torsion,
> exhaust. It seems to come from the right front. I have not checked
> the rear but cannot believe my ears could be that far off. The
> u-joints have a small amount of play and I feel with my mileage it
> wouldn't hurt. That way I could get some correct spares as well. All
> advice appreciated. Don


Got those on my ZJ. If they are the same ones, I just used a 12 point
13mm socket. Once those three bolts came out the axle slid out.




DougW 02-13-2007 08:36 PM

Re: Front U-joints
 
Don Hamilton wrote:
> I was going to change my u-joints on my 05 Rubicon (70,000 miles) and
> after removing the rotors there are some male torx type bolts that
> need to come out next. My question what is the proper tool for these?
> Is some type of axel puller also needed to get the shaft out? I have
> a clatter type rattle mainly when turning both locked and free. I
> have jacked the car and cannot find any thing loose, shocks, torsion,
> exhaust. It seems to come from the right front. I have not checked
> the rear but cannot believe my ears could be that far off. The
> u-joints have a small amount of play and I feel with my mileage it
> wouldn't hurt. That way I could get some correct spares as well. All
> advice appreciated. Don


Got those on my ZJ. If they are the same ones, I just used a 12 point
13mm socket. Once those three bolts came out the axle slid out.




DougW 02-13-2007 08:36 PM

Re: Front U-joints
 
Don Hamilton wrote:
> I was going to change my u-joints on my 05 Rubicon (70,000 miles) and
> after removing the rotors there are some male torx type bolts that
> need to come out next. My question what is the proper tool for these?
> Is some type of axel puller also needed to get the shaft out? I have
> a clatter type rattle mainly when turning both locked and free. I
> have jacked the car and cannot find any thing loose, shocks, torsion,
> exhaust. It seems to come from the right front. I have not checked
> the rear but cannot believe my ears could be that far off. The
> u-joints have a small amount of play and I feel with my mileage it
> wouldn't hurt. That way I could get some correct spares as well. All
> advice appreciated. Don


Got those on my ZJ. If they are the same ones, I just used a 12 point
13mm socket. Once those three bolts came out the axle slid out.




DougW 02-13-2007 08:36 PM

Re: Front U-joints
 
Don Hamilton wrote:
> I was going to change my u-joints on my 05 Rubicon (70,000 miles) and
> after removing the rotors there are some male torx type bolts that
> need to come out next. My question what is the proper tool for these?
> Is some type of axel puller also needed to get the shaft out? I have
> a clatter type rattle mainly when turning both locked and free. I
> have jacked the car and cannot find any thing loose, shocks, torsion,
> exhaust. It seems to come from the right front. I have not checked
> the rear but cannot believe my ears could be that far off. The
> u-joints have a small amount of play and I feel with my mileage it
> wouldn't hurt. That way I could get some correct spares as well. All
> advice appreciated. Don


Got those on my ZJ. If they are the same ones, I just used a 12 point
13mm socket. Once those three bolts came out the axle slid out.




Matt Macchiarolo 02-13-2007 08:46 PM

Re: Front U-joints
 
U-joints shouldn't have any play.

The three bolts that hold the unit wheel bearing in the knuckle are 13mm
12-point bolts, you'll need a 12-point socket.

Soak the bolts and all around the bearing/knuckle mating surface with
penetrating oil like PB Blaster for a day or so, esp if you live in the rust
belt.

"Don Hamilton" <CDHamilnospam@excite.com> wrote in message
news:12t4p37qvubv246@corp.supernews.com...
>I was going to change my u-joints on my 05 Rubicon (70,000 miles) and after
>removing the rotors there are some male torx type bolts that need to come
>out next. My question what is the proper tool for these? Is some type of
>axel puller also needed to get the shaft out? I have a clatter type rattle
>mainly when turning both locked and free. I have jacked the car and cannot
>find any thing loose, shocks, torsion, exhaust. It seems to come from the
>right front. I have not checked the rear but cannot believe my ears could
>be that far off. The u-joints have a small amount of play and I feel with
>my mileage it wouldn't hurt. That way I could get some correct spares as
>well. All advice appreciated. Don
>




Matt Macchiarolo 02-13-2007 08:46 PM

Re: Front U-joints
 
U-joints shouldn't have any play.

The three bolts that hold the unit wheel bearing in the knuckle are 13mm
12-point bolts, you'll need a 12-point socket.

Soak the bolts and all around the bearing/knuckle mating surface with
penetrating oil like PB Blaster for a day or so, esp if you live in the rust
belt.

"Don Hamilton" <CDHamilnospam@excite.com> wrote in message
news:12t4p37qvubv246@corp.supernews.com...
>I was going to change my u-joints on my 05 Rubicon (70,000 miles) and after
>removing the rotors there are some male torx type bolts that need to come
>out next. My question what is the proper tool for these? Is some type of
>axel puller also needed to get the shaft out? I have a clatter type rattle
>mainly when turning both locked and free. I have jacked the car and cannot
>find any thing loose, shocks, torsion, exhaust. It seems to come from the
>right front. I have not checked the rear but cannot believe my ears could
>be that far off. The u-joints have a small amount of play and I feel with
>my mileage it wouldn't hurt. That way I could get some correct spares as
>well. All advice appreciated. Don
>




Matt Macchiarolo 02-13-2007 08:46 PM

Re: Front U-joints
 
U-joints shouldn't have any play.

The three bolts that hold the unit wheel bearing in the knuckle are 13mm
12-point bolts, you'll need a 12-point socket.

Soak the bolts and all around the bearing/knuckle mating surface with
penetrating oil like PB Blaster for a day or so, esp if you live in the rust
belt.

"Don Hamilton" <CDHamilnospam@excite.com> wrote in message
news:12t4p37qvubv246@corp.supernews.com...
>I was going to change my u-joints on my 05 Rubicon (70,000 miles) and after
>removing the rotors there are some male torx type bolts that need to come
>out next. My question what is the proper tool for these? Is some type of
>axel puller also needed to get the shaft out? I have a clatter type rattle
>mainly when turning both locked and free. I have jacked the car and cannot
>find any thing loose, shocks, torsion, exhaust. It seems to come from the
>right front. I have not checked the rear but cannot believe my ears could
>be that far off. The u-joints have a small amount of play and I feel with
>my mileage it wouldn't hurt. That way I could get some correct spares as
>well. All advice appreciated. Don
>




Matt Macchiarolo 02-13-2007 08:46 PM

Re: Front U-joints
 
U-joints shouldn't have any play.

The three bolts that hold the unit wheel bearing in the knuckle are 13mm
12-point bolts, you'll need a 12-point socket.

Soak the bolts and all around the bearing/knuckle mating surface with
penetrating oil like PB Blaster for a day or so, esp if you live in the rust
belt.

"Don Hamilton" <CDHamilnospam@excite.com> wrote in message
news:12t4p37qvubv246@corp.supernews.com...
>I was going to change my u-joints on my 05 Rubicon (70,000 miles) and after
>removing the rotors there are some male torx type bolts that need to come
>out next. My question what is the proper tool for these? Is some type of
>axel puller also needed to get the shaft out? I have a clatter type rattle
>mainly when turning both locked and free. I have jacked the car and cannot
>find any thing loose, shocks, torsion, exhaust. It seems to come from the
>right front. I have not checked the rear but cannot believe my ears could
>be that far off. The u-joints have a small amount of play and I feel with
>my mileage it wouldn't hurt. That way I could get some correct spares as
>well. All advice appreciated. Don
>




L.W. \(Bill\) Hughes III 02-13-2007 08:49 PM

Re: Front U-joints
 
Hi Don,
Use the spindle bolts, just unscrewed a couple of threads to drive the
bearing assemble out, with penetrating oil. Similar to these Dana 30s:
http://www.----------.com/Dana30WheelBearing/index.htm
http://www.4x4wire.com/tech/axle/ujoint/
The axles slide out.
God Bless America, Bill 0|||||||0
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

"Don Hamilton" <CDHamilnospam@excite.com> wrote in message
news:12t4p37qvubv246@corp.supernews.com...
> I was going to change my u-joints on my 05 Rubicon (70,000 miles) and

after
> removing the rotors there are some male torx type bolts that need to come
> out next. My question what is the proper tool for these? Is some type of
> axel puller also needed to get the shaft out? I have a clatter type rattle
> mainly when turning both locked and free. I have jacked the car and cannot
> find any thing loose, shocks, torsion, exhaust. It seems to come from the
> right front. I have not checked the rear but cannot believe my ears could

be
> that far off. The u-joints have a small amount of play and I feel with my
> mileage it wouldn't hurt. That way I could get some correct spares as

well.
> All advice appreciated. Don
>
>




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