Re: Frame swap restore for my 86 CJ7
 

Doesn't that reduce needed flexibility and make a brittle area to the side
of the weld, if you don't know what you're doing? Just my $0.02.

Cheers,

Earle

"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:471387e6$0$5143$9a6e19ea@unlimited.newshostin g.com...
> Are you going to beef up your frame?
>
> I figure I should reinforce all the spots these frames break at before
> there is any damage.
>
> I want to beef up all the spring hanger areas, gusset the front
> crossmember and angle brace and gusset the rear crossmember for
> anchoring the trailer hitch and bumperettes solid.
>
> I am going to stuff the tails with a square tube.
>
> I was thinking on getting some 3/16" plate steel and making a bunch of
> cardboard templates, then renting a cutting torch or plasma cutter if I
> can find one and zip them all off in an afternoon/evening.
>
> Too bad you live so far away....
>
> Mike
>
> Greg wrote:
> > I'll send you some pics of my new frame tomorrow, I'll take a couple
of
> > the factory welds. My frame came with wide track, and 4" lift, so I will
be
> > swapping over to wide track at the same time, I may do a 9" in the back
> > though.
> >

Re: Frame swap restore for my 86 CJ7
 

Doesn't that reduce needed flexibility and make a brittle area to the side
of the weld, if you don't know what you're doing? Just my $0.02.

Cheers,

Earle

"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:471387e6$0$5143$9a6e19ea@unlimited.newshostin g.com...
> Are you going to beef up your frame?
>
> I figure I should reinforce all the spots these frames break at before
> there is any damage.
>
> I want to beef up all the spring hanger areas, gusset the front
> crossmember and angle brace and gusset the rear crossmember for
> anchoring the trailer hitch and bumperettes solid.
>
> I am going to stuff the tails with a square tube.
>
> I was thinking on getting some 3/16" plate steel and making a bunch of
> cardboard templates, then renting a cutting torch or plasma cutter if I
> can find one and zip them all off in an afternoon/evening.
>
> Too bad you live so far away....
>
> Mike
>
> Greg wrote:
> > I'll send you some pics of my new frame tomorrow, I'll take a couple
of
> > the factory welds. My frame came with wide track, and 4" lift, so I will
be
> > swapping over to wide track at the same time, I may do a 9" in the back
> > though.
> >

Re: Frame swap restore for my 86 CJ7
 

Doesn't that reduce needed flexibility and make a brittle area to the side
of the weld, if you don't know what you're doing? Just my $0.02.

Cheers,

Earle

"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:471387e6$0$5143$9a6e19ea@unlimited.newshostin g.com...
> Are you going to beef up your frame?
>
> I figure I should reinforce all the spots these frames break at before
> there is any damage.
>
> I want to beef up all the spring hanger areas, gusset the front
> crossmember and angle brace and gusset the rear crossmember for
> anchoring the trailer hitch and bumperettes solid.
>
> I am going to stuff the tails with a square tube.
>
> I was thinking on getting some 3/16" plate steel and making a bunch of
> cardboard templates, then renting a cutting torch or plasma cutter if I
> can find one and zip them all off in an afternoon/evening.
>
> Too bad you live so far away....
>
> Mike
>
> Greg wrote:
> > I'll send you some pics of my new frame tomorrow, I'll take a couple
of
> > the factory welds. My frame came with wide track, and 4" lift, so I will
be
> > swapping over to wide track at the same time, I may do a 9" in the back
> > though.
> >

Re: Frame swap restore for my 86 CJ7
 

Doesn't that reduce needed flexibility and make a brittle area to the side
of the weld, if you don't know what you're doing? Just my $0.02.

Cheers,

Earle

"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:471387e6$0$5143$9a6e19ea@unlimited.newshostin g.com...
> Are you going to beef up your frame?
>
> I figure I should reinforce all the spots these frames break at before
> there is any damage.
>
> I want to beef up all the spring hanger areas, gusset the front
> crossmember and angle brace and gusset the rear crossmember for
> anchoring the trailer hitch and bumperettes solid.
>
> I am going to stuff the tails with a square tube.
>
> I was thinking on getting some 3/16" plate steel and making a bunch of
> cardboard templates, then renting a cutting torch or plasma cutter if I
> can find one and zip them all off in an afternoon/evening.
>
> Too bad you live so far away....
>
> Mike
>
> Greg wrote:
> > I'll send you some pics of my new frame tomorrow, I'll take a couple
of
> > the factory welds. My frame came with wide track, and 4" lift, so I will
be
> > swapping over to wide track at the same time, I may do a 9" in the back
> > though.
> >

Re: Frame swap restore for my 86 CJ7
 

I already have enough flexibility to keep tearing my rad in half and to
have my doors just pop open so I was kinda wanting stiffer.

Here is one shot of how twisted up it can get:
http://www.imagestation.com/3118614/4143837596

Don't forget, I have a fiberglass tub with a one piece flip up front
clip so the body adds nothing to the stiffness...

I also have a small 'mig' welder that can easily do two passes on the
welds. If I remember right, the first pass wrecks the temper and the
second somewhat restores it.

Mike

Earle Horton wrote:
> Doesn't that reduce needed flexibility and make a brittle area to the side
> of the weld, if you don't know what you're doing? Just my $0.02.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Earle
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:471387e6$0$5143$9a6e19ea@unlimited.newshostin g.com...
>> Are you going to beef up your frame?
>>
>> I figure I should reinforce all the spots these frames break at before
>> there is any damage.
>>
>> I want to beef up all the spring hanger areas, gusset the front
>> crossmember and angle brace and gusset the rear crossmember for
>> anchoring the trailer hitch and bumperettes solid.
>>
>> I am going to stuff the tails with a square tube.
>>
>> I was thinking on getting some 3/16" plate steel and making a bunch of
>> cardboard templates, then renting a cutting torch or plasma cutter if I
>> can find one and zip them all off in an afternoon/evening.
>>
>> Too bad you live so far away....
>>
>> Mike
>>
>> Greg wrote:
>>> I'll send you some pics of my new frame tomorrow, I'll take a couple
> of
>>> the factory welds. My frame came with wide track, and 4" lift, so I will
> be
>>> swapping over to wide track at the same time, I may do a 9" in the back
>>> though.
>>>
>
>

Re: Frame swap restore for my 86 CJ7
 

I already have enough flexibility to keep tearing my rad in half and to
have my doors just pop open so I was kinda wanting stiffer.

Here is one shot of how twisted up it can get:
http://www.imagestation.com/3118614/4143837596

Don't forget, I have a fiberglass tub with a one piece flip up front
clip so the body adds nothing to the stiffness...

I also have a small 'mig' welder that can easily do two passes on the
welds. If I remember right, the first pass wrecks the temper and the
second somewhat restores it.

Mike

Earle Horton wrote:
> Doesn't that reduce needed flexibility and make a brittle area to the side
> of the weld, if you don't know what you're doing? Just my $0.02.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Earle
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:471387e6$0$5143$9a6e19ea@unlimited.newshostin g.com...
>> Are you going to beef up your frame?
>>
>> I figure I should reinforce all the spots these frames break at before
>> there is any damage.
>>
>> I want to beef up all the spring hanger areas, gusset the front
>> crossmember and angle brace and gusset the rear crossmember for
>> anchoring the trailer hitch and bumperettes solid.
>>
>> I am going to stuff the tails with a square tube.
>>
>> I was thinking on getting some 3/16" plate steel and making a bunch of
>> cardboard templates, then renting a cutting torch or plasma cutter if I
>> can find one and zip them all off in an afternoon/evening.
>>
>> Too bad you live so far away....
>>
>> Mike
>>
>> Greg wrote:
>>> I'll send you some pics of my new frame tomorrow, I'll take a couple
> of
>>> the factory welds. My frame came with wide track, and 4" lift, so I will
> be
>>> swapping over to wide track at the same time, I may do a 9" in the back
>>> though.
>>>
>
>

Re: Frame swap restore for my 86 CJ7
 

I already have enough flexibility to keep tearing my rad in half and to
have my doors just pop open so I was kinda wanting stiffer.

Here is one shot of how twisted up it can get:
http://www.imagestation.com/3118614/4143837596

Don't forget, I have a fiberglass tub with a one piece flip up front
clip so the body adds nothing to the stiffness...

I also have a small 'mig' welder that can easily do two passes on the
welds. If I remember right, the first pass wrecks the temper and the
second somewhat restores it.

Mike

Earle Horton wrote:
> Doesn't that reduce needed flexibility and make a brittle area to the side
> of the weld, if you don't know what you're doing? Just my $0.02.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Earle
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:471387e6$0$5143$9a6e19ea@unlimited.newshostin g.com...
>> Are you going to beef up your frame?
>>
>> I figure I should reinforce all the spots these frames break at before
>> there is any damage.
>>
>> I want to beef up all the spring hanger areas, gusset the front
>> crossmember and angle brace and gusset the rear crossmember for
>> anchoring the trailer hitch and bumperettes solid.
>>
>> I am going to stuff the tails with a square tube.
>>
>> I was thinking on getting some 3/16" plate steel and making a bunch of
>> cardboard templates, then renting a cutting torch or plasma cutter if I
>> can find one and zip them all off in an afternoon/evening.
>>
>> Too bad you live so far away....
>>
>> Mike
>>
>> Greg wrote:
>>> I'll send you some pics of my new frame tomorrow, I'll take a couple
> of
>>> the factory welds. My frame came with wide track, and 4" lift, so I will
> be
>>> swapping over to wide track at the same time, I may do a 9" in the back
>>> though.
>>>
>
>

Re: Frame swap restore for my 86 CJ7
 

I already have enough flexibility to keep tearing my rad in half and to
have my doors just pop open so I was kinda wanting stiffer.

Here is one shot of how twisted up it can get:
http://www.imagestation.com/3118614/4143837596

Don't forget, I have a fiberglass tub with a one piece flip up front
clip so the body adds nothing to the stiffness...

I also have a small 'mig' welder that can easily do two passes on the
welds. If I remember right, the first pass wrecks the temper and the
second somewhat restores it.

Mike

Earle Horton wrote:
> Doesn't that reduce needed flexibility and make a brittle area to the side
> of the weld, if you don't know what you're doing? Just my $0.02.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Earle
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:471387e6$0$5143$9a6e19ea@unlimited.newshostin g.com...
>> Are you going to beef up your frame?
>>
>> I figure I should reinforce all the spots these frames break at before
>> there is any damage.
>>
>> I want to beef up all the spring hanger areas, gusset the front
>> crossmember and angle brace and gusset the rear crossmember for
>> anchoring the trailer hitch and bumperettes solid.
>>
>> I am going to stuff the tails with a square tube.
>>
>> I was thinking on getting some 3/16" plate steel and making a bunch of
>> cardboard templates, then renting a cutting torch or plasma cutter if I
>> can find one and zip them all off in an afternoon/evening.
>>
>> Too bad you live so far away....
>>
>> Mike
>>
>> Greg wrote:
>>> I'll send you some pics of my new frame tomorrow, I'll take a couple
> of
>>> the factory welds. My frame came with wide track, and 4" lift, so I will
> be
>>> swapping over to wide track at the same time, I may do a 9" in the back
>>> though.
>>>
>
>

Re: Frame swap restore for my 86 CJ7
 

Ya I talked to a local welding place, I'd like to plate the frame from
rear crossmember to in front of rear hanger, that's where mine went. This
new frame is 99% better then mine, but still has a hole under one spring
hanger. I could do all this myself but worry about legallities of welding on
my frame, even though like you I have kept my old one together over the last
3 years.

"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:471387e6$0$5143$9a6e19ea@unlimited.newshostin g.com...
> Are you going to beef up your frame?
>
> I figure I should reinforce all the spots these frames break at before
> there is any damage.
>
> I want to beef up all the spring hanger areas, gusset the front
> crossmember and angle brace and gusset the rear crossmember for anchoring
> the trailer hitch and bumperettes solid.
>
> I am going to stuff the tails with a square tube.
>
> I was thinking on getting some 3/16" plate steel and making a bunch of
> cardboard templates, then renting a cutting torch or plasma cutter if I
> can find one and zip them all off in an afternoon/evening.
>
> Too bad you live so far away....
>
> Mike
>
> Greg wrote:
>> I'll send you some pics of my new frame tomorrow, I'll take a couple of
>> the factory welds. My frame came with wide track, and 4" lift, so I will
>> be swapping over to wide track at the same time, I may do a 9" in the
>> back though.
>>

Re: Frame swap restore for my 86 CJ7
 

Ya I talked to a local welding place, I'd like to plate the frame from
rear crossmember to in front of rear hanger, that's where mine went. This
new frame is 99% better then mine, but still has a hole under one spring
hanger. I could do all this myself but worry about legallities of welding on
my frame, even though like you I have kept my old one together over the last
3 years.

"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:471387e6$0$5143$9a6e19ea@unlimited.newshostin g.com...
> Are you going to beef up your frame?
>
> I figure I should reinforce all the spots these frames break at before
> there is any damage.
>
> I want to beef up all the spring hanger areas, gusset the front
> crossmember and angle brace and gusset the rear crossmember for anchoring
> the trailer hitch and bumperettes solid.
>
> I am going to stuff the tails with a square tube.
>
> I was thinking on getting some 3/16" plate steel and making a bunch of
> cardboard templates, then renting a cutting torch or plasma cutter if I
> can find one and zip them all off in an afternoon/evening.
>
> Too bad you live so far away....
>
> Mike
>
> Greg wrote:
>> I'll send you some pics of my new frame tomorrow, I'll take a couple of
>> the factory welds. My frame came with wide track, and 4" lift, so I will
>> be swapping over to wide track at the same time, I may do a 9" in the
>> back though.
>>