Frame swap restore for my 86 CJ7
 

After the last 10 day Labour Day camping trip way back into the bush, I
noticed the CJ7's frame cracked in three new places. I was figuring out
how to repair them yesterday, then figured I was repairing repairs and
there 'really' wasn't anything left there to weld to when an email came
in from a Website's thread monitor I posted to a while back looking for
a steering shaft.

The gent was saying he still had parts (no shaft, but I got a new one
some other place) so I looked just because I was bored and the post
showed this really pretty looking CJ7 frame.....

Well coincidence or not, I showed my wife and she said go for it and
handed me money. So I did and now have a 'project'. LOL!

The gent tossed in a gas tank and good skid plate which I need bad for
an extra $20.00, Have no skid plate at all right now, lost the last one
on the trail, and I gave my son 20 for gas when he picked it up for me
with his mini van so for less than $350.00 I got a nice clean frame
home. I was told it is from a 78.

Now to build it up for install. I put all new lines in my CJ7 back in
99/2000 when I did a frame up build with the fiberglass body, but figure
it is time for all new again. So easy to run gas and brake lines from
the top.... This frame has all new mounting bushings for the springs
and sway bar already installed so I don't have to worry there.

I used a red rust converter, then rubberized top coat on my frame back
in '00 and had no rust happen, the rust came from the inside out and
killed it so this time I want to do the insides. The outside has been
sandblasted, primered and painted.

I have this industrial cold galvanizing spray I used back in '00 on
things like washers for mount spacers, frame pieces for my custom spare
and rack mount system, etc., and there isn't a spot of rust on them so I
figure I am going to soak the 'inside' of the frame with the
galvanizing. The tails already have a hole cut in the crossmember so I
can get inside from the back end with a tube on the spray can.

Those tails are a weak spot and crush over time so I think I will box
both of them internally up as far as I can fit a square pipe, just
guessing about 18" with a 30 deg angle on the ends and weld through the
side holes to hold it in place. This will give some good structure for
the rear shackle hangers, my rack frame and my trailer hitch to hold onto.

I already picked up a dual steering shock setup to replace my 'rod in an
empty tube' posing as a steering stabilizer and got a re-core on my rad
so it's new.

I have an old antique thumper compressor with an electric motor bolted
to a 2x10 with a handle on it I am going to see about plumbing up to a
tank for my air tools because some lowlife scumbag stole my nice new one
off my front porch a couple weeks ago. I figure if I put together a
'ghetto' air tank system with ugly used parts no one will bother
stealing that...

This is going to be fun...

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's - Gone to the rust pile...
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
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Re: Frame swap restore for my 86 CJ7
 

You should take pics along the way so we can see the progress of the
MikeMobile.

"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
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> This is going to be fun...
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's - Gone to the rust pile...
> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
>

Re: Frame swap restore for my 86 CJ7
 

You should take pics along the way so we can see the progress of the
MikeMobile.

"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:471182ac$0$6058$9a6e19ea@unlimited.newshostin g.com...
> This is going to be fun...
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's - Gone to the rust pile...
> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
>

Re: Frame swap restore for my 86 CJ7
 

You should take pics along the way so we can see the progress of the
MikeMobile.

"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:471182ac$0$6058$9a6e19ea@unlimited.newshostin g.com...
> This is going to be fun...
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's - Gone to the rust pile...
> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
>

Re: Frame swap restore for my 86 CJ7
 

You should take pics along the way so we can see the progress of the
MikeMobile.

"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:471182ac$0$6058$9a6e19ea@unlimited.newshostin g.com...
> This is going to be fun...
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's - Gone to the rust pile...
> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
>

Re: Frame swap restore for my 86 CJ7
 

Mike Romain wrote:
> After the last 10 day Labour Day camping trip way back into the bush, I
> noticed the CJ7's frame cracked in three new places. I was figuring out
> how to repair them yesterday, then figured I was repairing repairs and
> there 'really' wasn't anything left there to weld to when an email came
> in from a Website's thread monitor I posted to a while back looking for
> a steering shaft.
>
> The gent was saying he still had parts (no shaft, but I got a new one
> some other place) so I looked just because I was bored and the post
> showed this really pretty looking CJ7 frame.....
>
> Well coincidence or not, I showed my wife and she said go for it and
> handed me money. So I did and now have a 'project'. LOL!
>
> The gent tossed in a gas tank and good skid plate which I need bad for
> an extra $20.00, Have no skid plate at all right now, lost the last one
> on the trail, and I gave my son 20 for gas when he picked it up for me
> with his mini van so for less than $350.00 I got a nice clean frame
> home. I was told it is from a 78.
>
> Now to build it up for install. I put all new lines in my CJ7 back in
> 99/2000 when I did a frame up build with the fiberglass body, but figure
> it is time for all new again. So easy to run gas and brake lines from
> the top.... This frame has all new mounting bushings for the springs
> and sway bar already installed so I don't have to worry there.
>
> I used a red rust converter, then rubberized top coat on my frame back
> in '00 and had no rust happen, the rust came from the inside out and
> killed it so this time I want to do the insides. The outside has been
> sandblasted, primered and painted.
>
> I have this industrial cold galvanizing spray I used back in '00 on
> things like washers for mount spacers, frame pieces for my custom spare
> and rack mount system, etc., and there isn't a spot of rust on them so I
> figure I am going to soak the 'inside' of the frame with the
> galvanizing. The tails already have a hole cut in the crossmember so I
> can get inside from the back end with a tube on the spray can.
>
> Those tails are a weak spot and crush over time so I think I will box
> both of them internally up as far as I can fit a square pipe, just
> guessing about 18" with a 30 deg angle on the ends and weld through the
> side holes to hold it in place. This will give some good structure for
> the rear shackle hangers, my rack frame and my trailer hitch to hold onto.
>
> I already picked up a dual steering shock setup to replace my 'rod in an
> empty tube' posing as a steering stabilizer and got a re-core on my rad
> so it's new.
>
> I have an old antique thumper compressor with an electric motor bolted
> to a 2x10 with a handle on it I am going to see about plumbing up to a
> tank for my air tools because some lowlife scumbag stole my nice new one
> off my front porch a couple weeks ago. I figure if I put together a
> 'ghetto' air tank system with ugly used parts no one will bother
> stealing that...
>
> This is going to be fun...
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's - Gone to the rust pile...
> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)


Mike,

You may want to consider going with stainless tubes for the brakes and
fuel lines. I did that with my truck when I redid it and the stainless
only cost me $40 more than regular steel tubing.

I used a company called inline tube, but I didn't see any Jeep stuff
there. Their website is http://www.inlinetube.com. I can say that the
fuel and brake lines I got from them fit perfectly and are very good
quality. It would be worth a phone call to them to see if they offer
stuff for Jeeps. Otherwise, I have had friends use
http://www.classictube.com who does list Jeep stuff and they were also
very satisfied with their products.

Chris

Re: Frame swap restore for my 86 CJ7
 

Mike Romain wrote:
> After the last 10 day Labour Day camping trip way back into the bush, I
> noticed the CJ7's frame cracked in three new places. I was figuring out
> how to repair them yesterday, then figured I was repairing repairs and
> there 'really' wasn't anything left there to weld to when an email came
> in from a Website's thread monitor I posted to a while back looking for
> a steering shaft.
>
> The gent was saying he still had parts (no shaft, but I got a new one
> some other place) so I looked just because I was bored and the post
> showed this really pretty looking CJ7 frame.....
>
> Well coincidence or not, I showed my wife and she said go for it and
> handed me money. So I did and now have a 'project'. LOL!
>
> The gent tossed in a gas tank and good skid plate which I need bad for
> an extra $20.00, Have no skid plate at all right now, lost the last one
> on the trail, and I gave my son 20 for gas when he picked it up for me
> with his mini van so for less than $350.00 I got a nice clean frame
> home. I was told it is from a 78.
>
> Now to build it up for install. I put all new lines in my CJ7 back in
> 99/2000 when I did a frame up build with the fiberglass body, but figure
> it is time for all new again. So easy to run gas and brake lines from
> the top.... This frame has all new mounting bushings for the springs
> and sway bar already installed so I don't have to worry there.
>
> I used a red rust converter, then rubberized top coat on my frame back
> in '00 and had no rust happen, the rust came from the inside out and
> killed it so this time I want to do the insides. The outside has been
> sandblasted, primered and painted.
>
> I have this industrial cold galvanizing spray I used back in '00 on
> things like washers for mount spacers, frame pieces for my custom spare
> and rack mount system, etc., and there isn't a spot of rust on them so I
> figure I am going to soak the 'inside' of the frame with the
> galvanizing. The tails already have a hole cut in the crossmember so I
> can get inside from the back end with a tube on the spray can.
>
> Those tails are a weak spot and crush over time so I think I will box
> both of them internally up as far as I can fit a square pipe, just
> guessing about 18" with a 30 deg angle on the ends and weld through the
> side holes to hold it in place. This will give some good structure for
> the rear shackle hangers, my rack frame and my trailer hitch to hold onto.
>
> I already picked up a dual steering shock setup to replace my 'rod in an
> empty tube' posing as a steering stabilizer and got a re-core on my rad
> so it's new.
>
> I have an old antique thumper compressor with an electric motor bolted
> to a 2x10 with a handle on it I am going to see about plumbing up to a
> tank for my air tools because some lowlife scumbag stole my nice new one
> off my front porch a couple weeks ago. I figure if I put together a
> 'ghetto' air tank system with ugly used parts no one will bother
> stealing that...
>
> This is going to be fun...
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's - Gone to the rust pile...
> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)


Mike,

You may want to consider going with stainless tubes for the brakes and
fuel lines. I did that with my truck when I redid it and the stainless
only cost me $40 more than regular steel tubing.

I used a company called inline tube, but I didn't see any Jeep stuff
there. Their website is http://www.inlinetube.com. I can say that the
fuel and brake lines I got from them fit perfectly and are very good
quality. It would be worth a phone call to them to see if they offer
stuff for Jeeps. Otherwise, I have had friends use
http://www.classictube.com who does list Jeep stuff and they were also
very satisfied with their products.

Chris

Re: Frame swap restore for my 86 CJ7
 

Mike Romain wrote:
> After the last 10 day Labour Day camping trip way back into the bush, I
> noticed the CJ7's frame cracked in three new places. I was figuring out
> how to repair them yesterday, then figured I was repairing repairs and
> there 'really' wasn't anything left there to weld to when an email came
> in from a Website's thread monitor I posted to a while back looking for
> a steering shaft.
>
> The gent was saying he still had parts (no shaft, but I got a new one
> some other place) so I looked just because I was bored and the post
> showed this really pretty looking CJ7 frame.....
>
> Well coincidence or not, I showed my wife and she said go for it and
> handed me money. So I did and now have a 'project'. LOL!
>
> The gent tossed in a gas tank and good skid plate which I need bad for
> an extra $20.00, Have no skid plate at all right now, lost the last one
> on the trail, and I gave my son 20 for gas when he picked it up for me
> with his mini van so for less than $350.00 I got a nice clean frame
> home. I was told it is from a 78.
>
> Now to build it up for install. I put all new lines in my CJ7 back in
> 99/2000 when I did a frame up build with the fiberglass body, but figure
> it is time for all new again. So easy to run gas and brake lines from
> the top.... This frame has all new mounting bushings for the springs
> and sway bar already installed so I don't have to worry there.
>
> I used a red rust converter, then rubberized top coat on my frame back
> in '00 and had no rust happen, the rust came from the inside out and
> killed it so this time I want to do the insides. The outside has been
> sandblasted, primered and painted.
>
> I have this industrial cold galvanizing spray I used back in '00 on
> things like washers for mount spacers, frame pieces for my custom spare
> and rack mount system, etc., and there isn't a spot of rust on them so I
> figure I am going to soak the 'inside' of the frame with the
> galvanizing. The tails already have a hole cut in the crossmember so I
> can get inside from the back end with a tube on the spray can.
>
> Those tails are a weak spot and crush over time so I think I will box
> both of them internally up as far as I can fit a square pipe, just
> guessing about 18" with a 30 deg angle on the ends and weld through the
> side holes to hold it in place. This will give some good structure for
> the rear shackle hangers, my rack frame and my trailer hitch to hold onto.
>
> I already picked up a dual steering shock setup to replace my 'rod in an
> empty tube' posing as a steering stabilizer and got a re-core on my rad
> so it's new.
>
> I have an old antique thumper compressor with an electric motor bolted
> to a 2x10 with a handle on it I am going to see about plumbing up to a
> tank for my air tools because some lowlife scumbag stole my nice new one
> off my front porch a couple weeks ago. I figure if I put together a
> 'ghetto' air tank system with ugly used parts no one will bother
> stealing that...
>
> This is going to be fun...
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's - Gone to the rust pile...
> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)


Mike,

You may want to consider going with stainless tubes for the brakes and
fuel lines. I did that with my truck when I redid it and the stainless
only cost me $40 more than regular steel tubing.

I used a company called inline tube, but I didn't see any Jeep stuff
there. Their website is http://www.inlinetube.com. I can say that the
fuel and brake lines I got from them fit perfectly and are very good
quality. It would be worth a phone call to them to see if they offer
stuff for Jeeps. Otherwise, I have had friends use
http://www.classictube.com who does list Jeep stuff and they were also
very satisfied with their products.

Chris

Re: Frame swap restore for my 86 CJ7
 

Mike Romain wrote:
> After the last 10 day Labour Day camping trip way back into the bush, I
> noticed the CJ7's frame cracked in three new places. I was figuring out
> how to repair them yesterday, then figured I was repairing repairs and
> there 'really' wasn't anything left there to weld to when an email came
> in from a Website's thread monitor I posted to a while back looking for
> a steering shaft.
>
> The gent was saying he still had parts (no shaft, but I got a new one
> some other place) so I looked just because I was bored and the post
> showed this really pretty looking CJ7 frame.....
>
> Well coincidence or not, I showed my wife and she said go for it and
> handed me money. So I did and now have a 'project'. LOL!
>
> The gent tossed in a gas tank and good skid plate which I need bad for
> an extra $20.00, Have no skid plate at all right now, lost the last one
> on the trail, and I gave my son 20 for gas when he picked it up for me
> with his mini van so for less than $350.00 I got a nice clean frame
> home. I was told it is from a 78.
>
> Now to build it up for install. I put all new lines in my CJ7 back in
> 99/2000 when I did a frame up build with the fiberglass body, but figure
> it is time for all new again. So easy to run gas and brake lines from
> the top.... This frame has all new mounting bushings for the springs
> and sway bar already installed so I don't have to worry there.
>
> I used a red rust converter, then rubberized top coat on my frame back
> in '00 and had no rust happen, the rust came from the inside out and
> killed it so this time I want to do the insides. The outside has been
> sandblasted, primered and painted.
>
> I have this industrial cold galvanizing spray I used back in '00 on
> things like washers for mount spacers, frame pieces for my custom spare
> and rack mount system, etc., and there isn't a spot of rust on them so I
> figure I am going to soak the 'inside' of the frame with the
> galvanizing. The tails already have a hole cut in the crossmember so I
> can get inside from the back end with a tube on the spray can.
>
> Those tails are a weak spot and crush over time so I think I will box
> both of them internally up as far as I can fit a square pipe, just
> guessing about 18" with a 30 deg angle on the ends and weld through the
> side holes to hold it in place. This will give some good structure for
> the rear shackle hangers, my rack frame and my trailer hitch to hold onto.
>
> I already picked up a dual steering shock setup to replace my 'rod in an
> empty tube' posing as a steering stabilizer and got a re-core on my rad
> so it's new.
>
> I have an old antique thumper compressor with an electric motor bolted
> to a 2x10 with a handle on it I am going to see about plumbing up to a
> tank for my air tools because some lowlife scumbag stole my nice new one
> off my front porch a couple weeks ago. I figure if I put together a
> 'ghetto' air tank system with ugly used parts no one will bother
> stealing that...
>
> This is going to be fun...
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's - Gone to the rust pile...
> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)


Mike,

You may want to consider going with stainless tubes for the brakes and
fuel lines. I did that with my truck when I redid it and the stainless
only cost me $40 more than regular steel tubing.

I used a company called inline tube, but I didn't see any Jeep stuff
there. Their website is http://www.inlinetube.com. I can say that the
fuel and brake lines I got from them fit perfectly and are very good
quality. It would be worth a phone call to them to see if they offer
stuff for Jeeps. Otherwise, I have had friends use
http://www.classictube.com who does list Jeep stuff and they were also
very satisfied with their products.

Chris

Re: Frame swap restore for my 86 CJ7
 

Thanks for the suggestion, but I kinda like making my own lines. I will
check out bulk line though. I just inspected the ones I built in 00 and
they are showing light surface rust. I think I will coat the new ones
in galvanizing spray or try the stainless if I can get it.

It's also time for a new master cylinder, mine creeps a bit when the
pedal is held down. Ohh, the 'little' details are $tarting to add up...

I am going to leave the ones across the back axle alone.

All my 'glass body mounting bolts are stainless and have held up well.

Mike

c wrote:

> Mike,
>
> You may want to consider going with stainless tubes for the brakes and
> fuel lines. I did that with my truck when I redid it and the stainless
> only cost me $40 more than regular steel tubing.
>
> I used a company called inline tube, but I didn't see any Jeep stuff
> there. Their website is http://www.inlinetube.com. I can say that the
> fuel and brake lines I got from them fit perfectly and are very good
> quality. It would be worth a phone call to them to see if they offer
> stuff for Jeeps. Otherwise, I have had friends use
> http://www.classictube.com who does list Jeep stuff and they were also
> very satisfied with their products.
>
> Chris