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Greg 10-14-2007 09:35 PM

Re: Frame swap restore for my 86 CJ7
 
I'll send you some pics of my new frame tomorrow, I'll take a couple of
the factory welds. My frame came with wide track, and 4" lift, so I will be
swapping over to wide track at the same time, I may do a 9" in the back
though.

"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:4712a370$0$20812$9a6e19ea@unlimited.newshosti ng.com...
> Apparently that was a local 'Jeep' shop's job all the way making it ready
> for resale to the gent I bought it from. He was going to make a rock
> buggy, but made a baby instead. <grin> He does still have a nice TJ with
> a 4" lift done up to match.
>
> The back shackle hangers are bolted on stock and are the first place a
> frame starts to go usually so are the first 'welds'...
>
> One of those suckers is just welded to the back crossmember mostly, they
> barely tagged the frame in one corner.
>
> 'I' would tear them off fast the way I get twisted up on trails. Well,
> maybe not 'fast', that frame is in better shape than mine was when I
> bought my CJ7 ten years ago....
>
> I also noticed the tranny skid plate on this one won't work for my
> drivetrain so I will have to swap mine over.
>
> Mike
>
> Greg wrote:
>> Had a look at your frame, nice welds they put on hey, I saw my frame
>> sand blasted, factory welds are pathetic, I do better welds with my mig,
>> and I've never had any training. Obviously Chrysler's welders haven't had
>> any either.
>>
>> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
>> news:47125ddd$0$5134$9a6e19ea@unlimited.newshostin g.com...
>>> I am doing this already.
>>>
>>> My album site, Sony is closing down so I need to set up a new account
>>> someplace.
>>>
>>> Meanwhile here is a start:
>>> http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2086967970
>>>
>>> Mike
>>>
>>> griffin wrote:
>>>> You should take pics along the way so we can see the progress of the
>>>> MikeMobile.
>>>>
>>>> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
>>>> news:471182ac$0$6058$9a6e19ea@unlimited.newshostin g.com...
>>>>> This is going to be fun...
>>>>>
>>>>> Mike
>>>>> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>>>>> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's - Gone to the rust pile...
>>>>> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
>>>>> Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
>>>>> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
>>>>>

>>




Greg 10-14-2007 09:35 PM

Re: Frame swap restore for my 86 CJ7
 
I'll send you some pics of my new frame tomorrow, I'll take a couple of
the factory welds. My frame came with wide track, and 4" lift, so I will be
swapping over to wide track at the same time, I may do a 9" in the back
though.

"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:4712a370$0$20812$9a6e19ea@unlimited.newshosti ng.com...
> Apparently that was a local 'Jeep' shop's job all the way making it ready
> for resale to the gent I bought it from. He was going to make a rock
> buggy, but made a baby instead. <grin> He does still have a nice TJ with
> a 4" lift done up to match.
>
> The back shackle hangers are bolted on stock and are the first place a
> frame starts to go usually so are the first 'welds'...
>
> One of those suckers is just welded to the back crossmember mostly, they
> barely tagged the frame in one corner.
>
> 'I' would tear them off fast the way I get twisted up on trails. Well,
> maybe not 'fast', that frame is in better shape than mine was when I
> bought my CJ7 ten years ago....
>
> I also noticed the tranny skid plate on this one won't work for my
> drivetrain so I will have to swap mine over.
>
> Mike
>
> Greg wrote:
>> Had a look at your frame, nice welds they put on hey, I saw my frame
>> sand blasted, factory welds are pathetic, I do better welds with my mig,
>> and I've never had any training. Obviously Chrysler's welders haven't had
>> any either.
>>
>> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
>> news:47125ddd$0$5134$9a6e19ea@unlimited.newshostin g.com...
>>> I am doing this already.
>>>
>>> My album site, Sony is closing down so I need to set up a new account
>>> someplace.
>>>
>>> Meanwhile here is a start:
>>> http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2086967970
>>>
>>> Mike
>>>
>>> griffin wrote:
>>>> You should take pics along the way so we can see the progress of the
>>>> MikeMobile.
>>>>
>>>> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
>>>> news:471182ac$0$6058$9a6e19ea@unlimited.newshostin g.com...
>>>>> This is going to be fun...
>>>>>
>>>>> Mike
>>>>> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>>>>> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's - Gone to the rust pile...
>>>>> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
>>>>> Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
>>>>> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
>>>>>

>>




Mike Romain 10-14-2007 10:59 PM

Re: Frame swap restore for my 86 CJ7
 
I see what you are talking about, I was just thinking on those shackles,
not he overall welding.

I already have a D30 and a D44.

Mike

Greg wrote:
> I'll send you some pics of my new frame tomorrow, I'll take a couple of
> the factory welds. My frame came with wide track, and 4" lift, so I will be
> swapping over to wide track at the same time, I may do a 9" in the back
> though.
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:4712a370$0$20812$9a6e19ea@unlimited.newshosti ng.com...
>> Apparently that was a local 'Jeep' shop's job all the way making it ready
>> for resale to the gent I bought it from. He was going to make a rock
>> buggy, but made a baby instead. <grin> He does still have a nice TJ with
>> a 4" lift done up to match.
>>
>> The back shackle hangers are bolted on stock and are the first place a
>> frame starts to go usually so are the first 'welds'...
>>
>> One of those suckers is just welded to the back crossmember mostly, they
>> barely tagged the frame in one corner.
>>
>> 'I' would tear them off fast the way I get twisted up on trails. Well,
>> maybe not 'fast', that frame is in better shape than mine was when I
>> bought my CJ7 ten years ago....
>>
>> I also noticed the tranny skid plate on this one won't work for my
>> drivetrain so I will have to swap mine over.
>>
>> Mike
>>
>> Greg wrote:
>>> Had a look at your frame, nice welds they put on hey, I saw my frame
>>> sand blasted, factory welds are pathetic, I do better welds with my mig,
>>> and I've never had any training. Obviously Chrysler's welders haven't had
>>> any either.
>>>
>>> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
>>> news:47125ddd$0$5134$9a6e19ea@unlimited.newshostin g.com...
>>>> I am doing this already.
>>>>
>>>> My album site, Sony is closing down so I need to set up a new account
>>>> someplace.
>>>>
>>>> Meanwhile here is a start:
>>>> http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2086967970
>>>>
>>>> Mike
>>>>
>>>> griffin wrote:
>>>>> You should take pics along the way so we can see the progress of the
>>>>> MikeMobile.
>>>>>
>>>>> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
>>>>> news:471182ac$0$6058$9a6e19ea@unlimited.newshostin g.com...
>>>>>> This is going to be fun...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Mike
>>>>>> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>>>>>> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's - Gone to the rust pile...
>>>>>> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
>>>>>> Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
>>>>>> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
>>>>>>

>
>


Mike Romain 10-14-2007 10:59 PM

Re: Frame swap restore for my 86 CJ7
 
I see what you are talking about, I was just thinking on those shackles,
not he overall welding.

I already have a D30 and a D44.

Mike

Greg wrote:
> I'll send you some pics of my new frame tomorrow, I'll take a couple of
> the factory welds. My frame came with wide track, and 4" lift, so I will be
> swapping over to wide track at the same time, I may do a 9" in the back
> though.
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:4712a370$0$20812$9a6e19ea@unlimited.newshosti ng.com...
>> Apparently that was a local 'Jeep' shop's job all the way making it ready
>> for resale to the gent I bought it from. He was going to make a rock
>> buggy, but made a baby instead. <grin> He does still have a nice TJ with
>> a 4" lift done up to match.
>>
>> The back shackle hangers are bolted on stock and are the first place a
>> frame starts to go usually so are the first 'welds'...
>>
>> One of those suckers is just welded to the back crossmember mostly, they
>> barely tagged the frame in one corner.
>>
>> 'I' would tear them off fast the way I get twisted up on trails. Well,
>> maybe not 'fast', that frame is in better shape than mine was when I
>> bought my CJ7 ten years ago....
>>
>> I also noticed the tranny skid plate on this one won't work for my
>> drivetrain so I will have to swap mine over.
>>
>> Mike
>>
>> Greg wrote:
>>> Had a look at your frame, nice welds they put on hey, I saw my frame
>>> sand blasted, factory welds are pathetic, I do better welds with my mig,
>>> and I've never had any training. Obviously Chrysler's welders haven't had
>>> any either.
>>>
>>> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
>>> news:47125ddd$0$5134$9a6e19ea@unlimited.newshostin g.com...
>>>> I am doing this already.
>>>>
>>>> My album site, Sony is closing down so I need to set up a new account
>>>> someplace.
>>>>
>>>> Meanwhile here is a start:
>>>> http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2086967970
>>>>
>>>> Mike
>>>>
>>>> griffin wrote:
>>>>> You should take pics along the way so we can see the progress of the
>>>>> MikeMobile.
>>>>>
>>>>> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
>>>>> news:471182ac$0$6058$9a6e19ea@unlimited.newshostin g.com...
>>>>>> This is going to be fun...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Mike
>>>>>> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>>>>>> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's - Gone to the rust pile...
>>>>>> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
>>>>>> Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
>>>>>> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
>>>>>>

>
>


Mike Romain 10-14-2007 10:59 PM

Re: Frame swap restore for my 86 CJ7
 
I see what you are talking about, I was just thinking on those shackles,
not he overall welding.

I already have a D30 and a D44.

Mike

Greg wrote:
> I'll send you some pics of my new frame tomorrow, I'll take a couple of
> the factory welds. My frame came with wide track, and 4" lift, so I will be
> swapping over to wide track at the same time, I may do a 9" in the back
> though.
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:4712a370$0$20812$9a6e19ea@unlimited.newshosti ng.com...
>> Apparently that was a local 'Jeep' shop's job all the way making it ready
>> for resale to the gent I bought it from. He was going to make a rock
>> buggy, but made a baby instead. <grin> He does still have a nice TJ with
>> a 4" lift done up to match.
>>
>> The back shackle hangers are bolted on stock and are the first place a
>> frame starts to go usually so are the first 'welds'...
>>
>> One of those suckers is just welded to the back crossmember mostly, they
>> barely tagged the frame in one corner.
>>
>> 'I' would tear them off fast the way I get twisted up on trails. Well,
>> maybe not 'fast', that frame is in better shape than mine was when I
>> bought my CJ7 ten years ago....
>>
>> I also noticed the tranny skid plate on this one won't work for my
>> drivetrain so I will have to swap mine over.
>>
>> Mike
>>
>> Greg wrote:
>>> Had a look at your frame, nice welds they put on hey, I saw my frame
>>> sand blasted, factory welds are pathetic, I do better welds with my mig,
>>> and I've never had any training. Obviously Chrysler's welders haven't had
>>> any either.
>>>
>>> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
>>> news:47125ddd$0$5134$9a6e19ea@unlimited.newshostin g.com...
>>>> I am doing this already.
>>>>
>>>> My album site, Sony is closing down so I need to set up a new account
>>>> someplace.
>>>>
>>>> Meanwhile here is a start:
>>>> http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2086967970
>>>>
>>>> Mike
>>>>
>>>> griffin wrote:
>>>>> You should take pics along the way so we can see the progress of the
>>>>> MikeMobile.
>>>>>
>>>>> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
>>>>> news:471182ac$0$6058$9a6e19ea@unlimited.newshostin g.com...
>>>>>> This is going to be fun...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Mike
>>>>>> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>>>>>> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's - Gone to the rust pile...
>>>>>> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
>>>>>> Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
>>>>>> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
>>>>>>

>
>


Mike Romain 10-14-2007 10:59 PM

Re: Frame swap restore for my 86 CJ7
 
I see what you are talking about, I was just thinking on those shackles,
not he overall welding.

I already have a D30 and a D44.

Mike

Greg wrote:
> I'll send you some pics of my new frame tomorrow, I'll take a couple of
> the factory welds. My frame came with wide track, and 4" lift, so I will be
> swapping over to wide track at the same time, I may do a 9" in the back
> though.
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:4712a370$0$20812$9a6e19ea@unlimited.newshosti ng.com...
>> Apparently that was a local 'Jeep' shop's job all the way making it ready
>> for resale to the gent I bought it from. He was going to make a rock
>> buggy, but made a baby instead. <grin> He does still have a nice TJ with
>> a 4" lift done up to match.
>>
>> The back shackle hangers are bolted on stock and are the first place a
>> frame starts to go usually so are the first 'welds'...
>>
>> One of those suckers is just welded to the back crossmember mostly, they
>> barely tagged the frame in one corner.
>>
>> 'I' would tear them off fast the way I get twisted up on trails. Well,
>> maybe not 'fast', that frame is in better shape than mine was when I
>> bought my CJ7 ten years ago....
>>
>> I also noticed the tranny skid plate on this one won't work for my
>> drivetrain so I will have to swap mine over.
>>
>> Mike
>>
>> Greg wrote:
>>> Had a look at your frame, nice welds they put on hey, I saw my frame
>>> sand blasted, factory welds are pathetic, I do better welds with my mig,
>>> and I've never had any training. Obviously Chrysler's welders haven't had
>>> any either.
>>>
>>> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
>>> news:47125ddd$0$5134$9a6e19ea@unlimited.newshostin g.com...
>>>> I am doing this already.
>>>>
>>>> My album site, Sony is closing down so I need to set up a new account
>>>> someplace.
>>>>
>>>> Meanwhile here is a start:
>>>> http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2086967970
>>>>
>>>> Mike
>>>>
>>>> griffin wrote:
>>>>> You should take pics along the way so we can see the progress of the
>>>>> MikeMobile.
>>>>>
>>>>> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
>>>>> news:471182ac$0$6058$9a6e19ea@unlimited.newshostin g.com...
>>>>>> This is going to be fun...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Mike
>>>>>> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>>>>>> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's - Gone to the rust pile...
>>>>>> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
>>>>>> Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
>>>>>> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
>>>>>>

>
>


Mike Romain 10-15-2007 11:34 AM

Re: Frame swap restore for my 86 CJ7
 
Are you going to beef up your frame?

I figure I should reinforce all the spots these frames break at before
there is any damage.

I want to beef up all the spring hanger areas, gusset the front
crossmember and angle brace and gusset the rear crossmember for
anchoring the trailer hitch and bumperettes solid.

I am going to stuff the tails with a square tube.

I was thinking on getting some 3/16" plate steel and making a bunch of
cardboard templates, then renting a cutting torch or plasma cutter if I
can find one and zip them all off in an afternoon/evening.

Too bad you live so far away....

Mike

Greg wrote:
> I'll send you some pics of my new frame tomorrow, I'll take a couple of
> the factory welds. My frame came with wide track, and 4" lift, so I will be
> swapping over to wide track at the same time, I may do a 9" in the back
> though.
>


Mike Romain 10-15-2007 11:34 AM

Re: Frame swap restore for my 86 CJ7
 
Are you going to beef up your frame?

I figure I should reinforce all the spots these frames break at before
there is any damage.

I want to beef up all the spring hanger areas, gusset the front
crossmember and angle brace and gusset the rear crossmember for
anchoring the trailer hitch and bumperettes solid.

I am going to stuff the tails with a square tube.

I was thinking on getting some 3/16" plate steel and making a bunch of
cardboard templates, then renting a cutting torch or plasma cutter if I
can find one and zip them all off in an afternoon/evening.

Too bad you live so far away....

Mike

Greg wrote:
> I'll send you some pics of my new frame tomorrow, I'll take a couple of
> the factory welds. My frame came with wide track, and 4" lift, so I will be
> swapping over to wide track at the same time, I may do a 9" in the back
> though.
>


Mike Romain 10-15-2007 11:34 AM

Re: Frame swap restore for my 86 CJ7
 
Are you going to beef up your frame?

I figure I should reinforce all the spots these frames break at before
there is any damage.

I want to beef up all the spring hanger areas, gusset the front
crossmember and angle brace and gusset the rear crossmember for
anchoring the trailer hitch and bumperettes solid.

I am going to stuff the tails with a square tube.

I was thinking on getting some 3/16" plate steel and making a bunch of
cardboard templates, then renting a cutting torch or plasma cutter if I
can find one and zip them all off in an afternoon/evening.

Too bad you live so far away....

Mike

Greg wrote:
> I'll send you some pics of my new frame tomorrow, I'll take a couple of
> the factory welds. My frame came with wide track, and 4" lift, so I will be
> swapping over to wide track at the same time, I may do a 9" in the back
> though.
>


Mike Romain 10-15-2007 11:34 AM

Re: Frame swap restore for my 86 CJ7
 
Are you going to beef up your frame?

I figure I should reinforce all the spots these frames break at before
there is any damage.

I want to beef up all the spring hanger areas, gusset the front
crossmember and angle brace and gusset the rear crossmember for
anchoring the trailer hitch and bumperettes solid.

I am going to stuff the tails with a square tube.

I was thinking on getting some 3/16" plate steel and making a bunch of
cardboard templates, then renting a cutting torch or plasma cutter if I
can find one and zip them all off in an afternoon/evening.

Too bad you live so far away....

Mike

Greg wrote:
> I'll send you some pics of my new frame tomorrow, I'll take a couple of
> the factory welds. My frame came with wide track, and 4" lift, so I will be
> swapping over to wide track at the same time, I may do a 9" in the back
> though.
>



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