Hootowl

On Tue, 18 Oct 2005 01:47:31 -0400, "Billy Ray"
<Billy_Ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote:

>Fram is a recognized leader and innovator in the field of filtration with a
>reputation earner over generations.
>
>That being said somewhere along it is alleged that Fram chose, with malice
>of forethought, to maximize profits by reducing the materials and
>manufacturing costs of their filter products by lowering quality.
>
>The 'Oil Filter Study" report has been all around the web for almost a
>decade now and if the information contained within that report was false or
>materially misleading I would have expected the Fram Company (now owned by
>Honeywell) to have taken editorial or legal action to refute the
>mis-information.
>
>Nor can I recall any authoritative publication issuing any defense or
>rebuttal.
>
>Even the commercial automotive magazines who derive a portion of their
>income from Fram have not come to the defense as far as I am aware.

I've seen a Fram filter opened up, and I can vouch that filter element
inside does, indeed, have cardboard end caps. After decades of using
nothing else, I now use only the Purolater+ or Wix filters.

Dan

Hootowl

On Tue, 18 Oct 2005 01:47:31 -0400, "Billy Ray"
<Billy_Ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote:

>Fram is a recognized leader and innovator in the field of filtration with a
>reputation earner over generations.
>
>That being said somewhere along it is alleged that Fram chose, with malice
>of forethought, to maximize profits by reducing the materials and
>manufacturing costs of their filter products by lowering quality.
>
>The 'Oil Filter Study" report has been all around the web for almost a
>decade now and if the information contained within that report was false or
>materially misleading I would have expected the Fram Company (now owned by
>Honeywell) to have taken editorial or legal action to refute the
>mis-information.
>
>Nor can I recall any authoritative publication issuing any defense or
>rebuttal.
>
>Even the commercial automotive magazines who derive a portion of their
>income from Fram have not come to the defense as far as I am aware.

I've seen a Fram filter opened up, and I can vouch that filter element
inside does, indeed, have cardboard end caps. After decades of using
nothing else, I now use only the Purolater+ or Wix filters.

Dan

Hootowl

On Tue, 18 Oct 2005 01:47:31 -0400, "Billy Ray"
<Billy_Ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote:

>Fram is a recognized leader and innovator in the field of filtration with a
>reputation earner over generations.
>
>That being said somewhere along it is alleged that Fram chose, with malice
>of forethought, to maximize profits by reducing the materials and
>manufacturing costs of their filter products by lowering quality.
>
>The 'Oil Filter Study" report has been all around the web for almost a
>decade now and if the information contained within that report was false or
>materially misleading I would have expected the Fram Company (now owned by
>Honeywell) to have taken editorial or legal action to refute the
>mis-information.
>
>Nor can I recall any authoritative publication issuing any defense or
>rebuttal.
>
>Even the commercial automotive magazines who derive a portion of their
>income from Fram have not come to the defense as far as I am aware.

I've seen a Fram filter opened up, and I can vouch that filter element
inside does, indeed, have cardboard end caps. After decades of using
nothing else, I now use only the Purolater+ or Wix filters.

Dan

Jerry Bransford

Heh, Fram can say what they want but the very LAST brand of filter I
would use would be a Fram. Heck, look at the hype that surrounds
products like the Magnetic Fuel Ionizer and the Tornado. ;)

sdowney717@msn.com wrote:
> If anyone wants to know:
> According to Fram oil tech people the Fram C3P filters particles down
> to 2 microns in size.
> It is called a depth filter.
> It has a stacked plate design and traps smaller and smaller particles
> as the oil moves further down towards where the inner plates meet.
> On my boat with IH 392 it is run as a bypass filter.
> So apparently it is a good filter to have.
> It would be a poor choice to change to another design.
> The only thing better is a submicronic bypass filter but if you have
> the C3P this should be good enough.
>

--
Jerry Bransford
PP-ASEL N6TAY
See the Geezer Jeep at
http://members.***.net/jerrypb/

Jerry Bransford

Heh, Fram can say what they want but the very LAST brand of filter I
would use would be a Fram. Heck, look at the hype that surrounds
products like the Magnetic Fuel Ionizer and the Tornado. ;)

sdowney717@msn.com wrote:
> If anyone wants to know:
> According to Fram oil tech people the Fram C3P filters particles down
> to 2 microns in size.
> It is called a depth filter.
> It has a stacked plate design and traps smaller and smaller particles
> as the oil moves further down towards where the inner plates meet.
> On my boat with IH 392 it is run as a bypass filter.
> So apparently it is a good filter to have.
> It would be a poor choice to change to another design.
> The only thing better is a submicronic bypass filter but if you have
> the C3P this should be good enough.
>

--
Jerry Bransford
PP-ASEL N6TAY
See the Geezer Jeep at
http://members.***.net/jerrypb/

Jerry Bransford

Heh, Fram can say what they want but the very LAST brand of filter I
would use would be a Fram. Heck, look at the hype that surrounds
products like the Magnetic Fuel Ionizer and the Tornado. ;)

sdowney717@msn.com wrote:
> If anyone wants to know:
> According to Fram oil tech people the Fram C3P filters particles down
> to 2 microns in size.
> It is called a depth filter.
> It has a stacked plate design and traps smaller and smaller particles
> as the oil moves further down towards where the inner plates meet.
> On my boat with IH 392 it is run as a bypass filter.
> So apparently it is a good filter to have.
> It would be a poor choice to change to another design.
> The only thing better is a submicronic bypass filter but if you have
> the C3P this should be good enough.
>

--
Jerry Bransford
PP-ASEL N6TAY
See the Geezer Jeep at
http://members.***.net/jerrypb/