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sdowney717@msn.com 10-17-2005 03:35 PM

Fram C3P depth filter 2 microns filtration
 
If anyone wants to know:
According to Fram oil tech people the Fram C3P filters particles down
to 2 microns in size.
It is called a depth filter.
It has a stacked plate design and traps smaller and smaller particles
as the oil moves further down towards where the inner plates meet.
On my boat with IH 392 it is run as a bypass filter.
So apparently it is a good filter to have.
It would be a poor choice to change to another design.
The only thing better is a submicronic bypass filter but if you have
the C3P this should be good enough.


L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III 10-17-2005 06:22 PM

Re: Fram C3P depth filter 2 microns filtration
 
Do you have a site with these statistics? It's pretty hard to find
any real evidence: http://minimopar.knizefamily.net/oilfilterstudy.html
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

sdowney717@msn.com wrote:
>
> If anyone wants to know:
> According to Fram oil tech people the Fram C3P filters particles down
> to 2 microns in size.
> It is called a depth filter.
> It has a stacked plate design and traps smaller and smaller particles
> as the oil moves further down towards where the inner plates meet.
> On my boat with IH 392 it is run as a bypass filter.
> So apparently it is a good filter to have.
> It would be a poor choice to change to another design.
> The only thing better is a submicronic bypass filter but if you have
> the C3P this should be good enough.


L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III 10-17-2005 06:22 PM

Re: Fram C3P depth filter 2 microns filtration
 
Do you have a site with these statistics? It's pretty hard to find
any real evidence: http://minimopar.knizefamily.net/oilfilterstudy.html
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

sdowney717@msn.com wrote:
>
> If anyone wants to know:
> According to Fram oil tech people the Fram C3P filters particles down
> to 2 microns in size.
> It is called a depth filter.
> It has a stacked plate design and traps smaller and smaller particles
> as the oil moves further down towards where the inner plates meet.
> On my boat with IH 392 it is run as a bypass filter.
> So apparently it is a good filter to have.
> It would be a poor choice to change to another design.
> The only thing better is a submicronic bypass filter but if you have
> the C3P this should be good enough.


L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III 10-17-2005 06:22 PM

Re: Fram C3P depth filter 2 microns filtration
 
Do you have a site with these statistics? It's pretty hard to find
any real evidence: http://minimopar.knizefamily.net/oilfilterstudy.html
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

sdowney717@msn.com wrote:
>
> If anyone wants to know:
> According to Fram oil tech people the Fram C3P filters particles down
> to 2 microns in size.
> It is called a depth filter.
> It has a stacked plate design and traps smaller and smaller particles
> as the oil moves further down towards where the inner plates meet.
> On my boat with IH 392 it is run as a bypass filter.
> So apparently it is a good filter to have.
> It would be a poor choice to change to another design.
> The only thing better is a submicronic bypass filter but if you have
> the C3P this should be good enough.


sdowney717@msn.com 10-17-2005 09:48 PM

Re: Fram C3P depth filter 2 microns filtration
 
I called Fram and they told me it filters down to 2 microns.. This is
not a spin on filter, It is an element that is installed in a can.
Then the lid is bolted on top. Apparently a depth filter is different
than a full flow filter.
I had just installed a bypass filter on my car and was wondering about
my boat. The 2 IH 392's in the boat have only a bypass filter using
the C3P. Anyway I was happy to find out that the C3P is fine. One
reason I posted was so if others wonder about a C3P they will know it
is a good filter. And I will remember now as well.

I did not install an AMSOIL filter but this gives you an idea of how
they work.
http://www.pecuniary.com/synthetics/bpfilters.html


sdowney717@msn.com 10-17-2005 09:48 PM

Re: Fram C3P depth filter 2 microns filtration
 
I called Fram and they told me it filters down to 2 microns.. This is
not a spin on filter, It is an element that is installed in a can.
Then the lid is bolted on top. Apparently a depth filter is different
than a full flow filter.
I had just installed a bypass filter on my car and was wondering about
my boat. The 2 IH 392's in the boat have only a bypass filter using
the C3P. Anyway I was happy to find out that the C3P is fine. One
reason I posted was so if others wonder about a C3P they will know it
is a good filter. And I will remember now as well.

I did not install an AMSOIL filter but this gives you an idea of how
they work.
http://www.pecuniary.com/synthetics/bpfilters.html


sdowney717@msn.com 10-17-2005 09:48 PM

Re: Fram C3P depth filter 2 microns filtration
 
I called Fram and they told me it filters down to 2 microns.. This is
not a spin on filter, It is an element that is installed in a can.
Then the lid is bolted on top. Apparently a depth filter is different
than a full flow filter.
I had just installed a bypass filter on my car and was wondering about
my boat. The 2 IH 392's in the boat have only a bypass filter using
the C3P. Anyway I was happy to find out that the C3P is fine. One
reason I posted was so if others wonder about a C3P they will know it
is a good filter. And I will remember now as well.

I did not install an AMSOIL filter but this gives you an idea of how
they work.
http://www.pecuniary.com/synthetics/bpfilters.html


Billy Ray 10-18-2005 01:47 AM

Re: Fram C3P depth filter 2 microns filtration
 
Fram is a recognized leader and innovator in the field of filtration with a
reputation earner over generations.

That being said somewhere along it is alleged that Fram chose, with malice
of forethought, to maximize profits by reducing the materials and
manufacturing costs of their filter products by lowering quality.

The 'Oil Filter Study" report has been all around the web for almost a
decade now and if the information contained within that report was false or
materially misleading I would have expected the Fram Company (now owned by
Honeywell) to have taken editorial or legal action to refute the
mis-information.

Nor can I recall any authoritative publication issuing any defense or
rebuttal.

Even the commercial automotive magazines who derive a portion of their
income from Fram have not come to the defense as far as I am aware.


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<sdowney717@msn.com> wrote in message
news:1129577714.279551.199360@g47g2000cwa.googlegr oups.com...
> If anyone wants to know:
> According to Fram oil tech people the Fram C3P filters particles down
> to 2 microns in size.
> It is called a depth filter.
> It has a stacked plate design and traps smaller and smaller particles
> as the oil moves further down towards where the inner plates meet.
> On my boat with IH 392 it is run as a bypass filter.
> So apparently it is a good filter to have.
> It would be a poor choice to change to another design.
> The only thing better is a submicronic bypass filter but if you have
> the C3P this should be good enough.
>




Billy Ray 10-18-2005 01:47 AM

Re: Fram C3P depth filter 2 microns filtration
 
Fram is a recognized leader and innovator in the field of filtration with a
reputation earner over generations.

That being said somewhere along it is alleged that Fram chose, with malice
of forethought, to maximize profits by reducing the materials and
manufacturing costs of their filter products by lowering quality.

The 'Oil Filter Study" report has been all around the web for almost a
decade now and if the information contained within that report was false or
materially misleading I would have expected the Fram Company (now owned by
Honeywell) to have taken editorial or legal action to refute the
mis-information.

Nor can I recall any authoritative publication issuing any defense or
rebuttal.

Even the commercial automotive magazines who derive a portion of their
income from Fram have not come to the defense as far as I am aware.


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..
<sdowney717@msn.com> wrote in message
news:1129577714.279551.199360@g47g2000cwa.googlegr oups.com...
> If anyone wants to know:
> According to Fram oil tech people the Fram C3P filters particles down
> to 2 microns in size.
> It is called a depth filter.
> It has a stacked plate design and traps smaller and smaller particles
> as the oil moves further down towards where the inner plates meet.
> On my boat with IH 392 it is run as a bypass filter.
> So apparently it is a good filter to have.
> It would be a poor choice to change to another design.
> The only thing better is a submicronic bypass filter but if you have
> the C3P this should be good enough.
>




Billy Ray 10-18-2005 01:47 AM

Re: Fram C3P depth filter 2 microns filtration
 
Fram is a recognized leader and innovator in the field of filtration with a
reputation earner over generations.

That being said somewhere along it is alleged that Fram chose, with malice
of forethought, to maximize profits by reducing the materials and
manufacturing costs of their filter products by lowering quality.

The 'Oil Filter Study" report has been all around the web for almost a
decade now and if the information contained within that report was false or
materially misleading I would have expected the Fram Company (now owned by
Honeywell) to have taken editorial or legal action to refute the
mis-information.

Nor can I recall any authoritative publication issuing any defense or
rebuttal.

Even the commercial automotive magazines who derive a portion of their
income from Fram have not come to the defense as far as I am aware.


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2002 Jeep WJ 4 Liter Automatic
Sharing is why we are all here....... or should be.
..
<sdowney717@msn.com> wrote in message
news:1129577714.279551.199360@g47g2000cwa.googlegr oups.com...
> If anyone wants to know:
> According to Fram oil tech people the Fram C3P filters particles down
> to 2 microns in size.
> It is called a depth filter.
> It has a stacked plate design and traps smaller and smaller particles
> as the oil moves further down towards where the inner plates meet.
> On my boat with IH 392 it is run as a bypass filter.
> So apparently it is a good filter to have.
> It would be a poor choice to change to another design.
> The only thing better is a submicronic bypass filter but if you have
> the C3P this should be good enough.
>





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