Flushing brake lines
08-15-2005, 01:12 AM
#21
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Re: Flushing brake lines
That's caused by an incomplete fuel burn barking back from the
exhaust through open cross flow valves into the intake manifold. Bad
spark plus.
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Billy Ray wrote:
>
> My neighbor and I flushed the brakes on his '96 XJ and My '02 WJ this
> afternoon.
>
> In both our Jeeps when the lines were flushed clean we found small black
> floaters in the drained fluid.
>
> On another note when we replaced the air filter in Ed's 4 liter XJ we found
> the inside of the throttle body to be caked with carbon or soot. What was
> the cause of that?
>
> --
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> 2002 Jeep WJ 4 Liter Automatic
> Brilliant Black Crystal Pearl Coat
exhaust through open cross flow valves into the intake manifold. Bad
spark plus.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Billy Ray wrote:
>
> My neighbor and I flushed the brakes on his '96 XJ and My '02 WJ this
> afternoon.
>
> In both our Jeeps when the lines were flushed clean we found small black
> floaters in the drained fluid.
>
> On another note when we replaced the air filter in Ed's 4 liter XJ we found
> the inside of the throttle body to be caked with carbon or soot. What was
> the cause of that?
>
> --
> Billy_Ray@SPAM.fuse.net (remove SPAM)
> 2002 Jeep WJ 4 Liter Automatic
> Brilliant Black Crystal Pearl Coat
08-15-2005, 06:40 AM
#22
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Re: Flushing brake lines
That's why VW recommends flushing your bake system every two years. I've
seen some that were neglected and it looked like tobacco spit!
JoBo
"Billy Ray" <Billy_Ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message
news:6abcf$430018aa$42a1cc8c$20517@FUSE.NET...
> Two different clean containers were used. Both systems were flushed with
> Valvoline Synpower Synthetic Formula brake fluid
>
> There were also some of these dark floaters in Ed's master cylinder when
> we drained it and they were a bit larger. We drained the reservoirs,
> refilled it with new fluid and bled the lines till they ran clear using
> the old method where one guy pumps the brake and watched the fluid level
> and the stupid one crawls under the Jeep and opens and closes the bleed
> valves.
>
>
>
> "Matt Macchiarolo" <matt@nospamplease.com> wrote in message
> news:woOdnaju9_XAj53eRVn-tw@comcast.com...
>>
>> "Billy Ray" <Billy_Ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message
>> news:3783d$43000560$42a1cc8c$8984@FUSE.NET...
>>> My neighbor and I flushed the brakes on his '96 XJ and My '02 WJ this
>>> afternoon.
>>>
>>> In both our Jeeps when the lines were flushed clean we found small black
>>> floaters in the drained fluid.
>>
>> Could have been in the lines, but it could also have been in the
>> container you were draining into....
>>>
>>> On another note when we replaced the air filter in Ed's 4 liter XJ we
>>> found the inside of the throttle body to be caked with carbon or soot.
>>> What was the cause of that?
>>>
>> Side effects of the crankcase vent system, probably...not unheard of on a
>> 9-year old engine.
>>
>>> Billy_Ray@SPAM.fuse.net (remove SPAM)
>>> 2002 Jeep WJ 4 Liter Automatic
>>> Brilliant Black Crystal Pearl Coat
>>>
>>
>>
>
>
seen some that were neglected and it looked like tobacco spit!
JoBo
"Billy Ray" <Billy_Ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message
news:6abcf$430018aa$42a1cc8c$20517@FUSE.NET...
> Two different clean containers were used. Both systems were flushed with
> Valvoline Synpower Synthetic Formula brake fluid
>
> There were also some of these dark floaters in Ed's master cylinder when
> we drained it and they were a bit larger. We drained the reservoirs,
> refilled it with new fluid and bled the lines till they ran clear using
> the old method where one guy pumps the brake and watched the fluid level
> and the stupid one crawls under the Jeep and opens and closes the bleed
> valves.
>
>
>
> "Matt Macchiarolo" <matt@nospamplease.com> wrote in message
> news:woOdnaju9_XAj53eRVn-tw@comcast.com...
>>
>> "Billy Ray" <Billy_Ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message
>> news:3783d$43000560$42a1cc8c$8984@FUSE.NET...
>>> My neighbor and I flushed the brakes on his '96 XJ and My '02 WJ this
>>> afternoon.
>>>
>>> In both our Jeeps when the lines were flushed clean we found small black
>>> floaters in the drained fluid.
>>
>> Could have been in the lines, but it could also have been in the
>> container you were draining into....
>>>
>>> On another note when we replaced the air filter in Ed's 4 liter XJ we
>>> found the inside of the throttle body to be caked with carbon or soot.
>>> What was the cause of that?
>>>
>> Side effects of the crankcase vent system, probably...not unheard of on a
>> 9-year old engine.
>>
>>> Billy_Ray@SPAM.fuse.net (remove SPAM)
>>> 2002 Jeep WJ 4 Liter Automatic
>>> Brilliant Black Crystal Pearl Coat
>>>
>>
>>
>
>
08-15-2005, 06:40 AM
#23
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Re: Flushing brake lines
That's why VW recommends flushing your bake system every two years. I've
seen some that were neglected and it looked like tobacco spit!
JoBo
"Billy Ray" <Billy_Ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message
news:6abcf$430018aa$42a1cc8c$20517@FUSE.NET...
> Two different clean containers were used. Both systems were flushed with
> Valvoline Synpower Synthetic Formula brake fluid
>
> There were also some of these dark floaters in Ed's master cylinder when
> we drained it and they were a bit larger. We drained the reservoirs,
> refilled it with new fluid and bled the lines till they ran clear using
> the old method where one guy pumps the brake and watched the fluid level
> and the stupid one crawls under the Jeep and opens and closes the bleed
> valves.
>
>
>
> "Matt Macchiarolo" <matt@nospamplease.com> wrote in message
> news:woOdnaju9_XAj53eRVn-tw@comcast.com...
>>
>> "Billy Ray" <Billy_Ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message
>> news:3783d$43000560$42a1cc8c$8984@FUSE.NET...
>>> My neighbor and I flushed the brakes on his '96 XJ and My '02 WJ this
>>> afternoon.
>>>
>>> In both our Jeeps when the lines were flushed clean we found small black
>>> floaters in the drained fluid.
>>
>> Could have been in the lines, but it could also have been in the
>> container you were draining into....
>>>
>>> On another note when we replaced the air filter in Ed's 4 liter XJ we
>>> found the inside of the throttle body to be caked with carbon or soot.
>>> What was the cause of that?
>>>
>> Side effects of the crankcase vent system, probably...not unheard of on a
>> 9-year old engine.
>>
>>> Billy_Ray@SPAM.fuse.net (remove SPAM)
>>> 2002 Jeep WJ 4 Liter Automatic
>>> Brilliant Black Crystal Pearl Coat
>>>
>>
>>
>
>
seen some that were neglected and it looked like tobacco spit!
JoBo
"Billy Ray" <Billy_Ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message
news:6abcf$430018aa$42a1cc8c$20517@FUSE.NET...
> Two different clean containers were used. Both systems were flushed with
> Valvoline Synpower Synthetic Formula brake fluid
>
> There were also some of these dark floaters in Ed's master cylinder when
> we drained it and they were a bit larger. We drained the reservoirs,
> refilled it with new fluid and bled the lines till they ran clear using
> the old method where one guy pumps the brake and watched the fluid level
> and the stupid one crawls under the Jeep and opens and closes the bleed
> valves.
>
>
>
> "Matt Macchiarolo" <matt@nospamplease.com> wrote in message
> news:woOdnaju9_XAj53eRVn-tw@comcast.com...
>>
>> "Billy Ray" <Billy_Ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message
>> news:3783d$43000560$42a1cc8c$8984@FUSE.NET...
>>> My neighbor and I flushed the brakes on his '96 XJ and My '02 WJ this
>>> afternoon.
>>>
>>> In both our Jeeps when the lines were flushed clean we found small black
>>> floaters in the drained fluid.
>>
>> Could have been in the lines, but it could also have been in the
>> container you were draining into....
>>>
>>> On another note when we replaced the air filter in Ed's 4 liter XJ we
>>> found the inside of the throttle body to be caked with carbon or soot.
>>> What was the cause of that?
>>>
>> Side effects of the crankcase vent system, probably...not unheard of on a
>> 9-year old engine.
>>
>>> Billy_Ray@SPAM.fuse.net (remove SPAM)
>>> 2002 Jeep WJ 4 Liter Automatic
>>> Brilliant Black Crystal Pearl Coat
>>>
>>
>>
>
>
08-15-2005, 06:40 AM
#24
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Re: Flushing brake lines
That's why VW recommends flushing your bake system every two years. I've
seen some that were neglected and it looked like tobacco spit!
JoBo
"Billy Ray" <Billy_Ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message
news:6abcf$430018aa$42a1cc8c$20517@FUSE.NET...
> Two different clean containers were used. Both systems were flushed with
> Valvoline Synpower Synthetic Formula brake fluid
>
> There were also some of these dark floaters in Ed's master cylinder when
> we drained it and they were a bit larger. We drained the reservoirs,
> refilled it with new fluid and bled the lines till they ran clear using
> the old method where one guy pumps the brake and watched the fluid level
> and the stupid one crawls under the Jeep and opens and closes the bleed
> valves.
>
>
>
> "Matt Macchiarolo" <matt@nospamplease.com> wrote in message
> news:woOdnaju9_XAj53eRVn-tw@comcast.com...
>>
>> "Billy Ray" <Billy_Ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message
>> news:3783d$43000560$42a1cc8c$8984@FUSE.NET...
>>> My neighbor and I flushed the brakes on his '96 XJ and My '02 WJ this
>>> afternoon.
>>>
>>> In both our Jeeps when the lines were flushed clean we found small black
>>> floaters in the drained fluid.
>>
>> Could have been in the lines, but it could also have been in the
>> container you were draining into....
>>>
>>> On another note when we replaced the air filter in Ed's 4 liter XJ we
>>> found the inside of the throttle body to be caked with carbon or soot.
>>> What was the cause of that?
>>>
>> Side effects of the crankcase vent system, probably...not unheard of on a
>> 9-year old engine.
>>
>>> Billy_Ray@SPAM.fuse.net (remove SPAM)
>>> 2002 Jeep WJ 4 Liter Automatic
>>> Brilliant Black Crystal Pearl Coat
>>>
>>
>>
>
>
seen some that were neglected and it looked like tobacco spit!
JoBo
"Billy Ray" <Billy_Ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message
news:6abcf$430018aa$42a1cc8c$20517@FUSE.NET...
> Two different clean containers were used. Both systems were flushed with
> Valvoline Synpower Synthetic Formula brake fluid
>
> There were also some of these dark floaters in Ed's master cylinder when
> we drained it and they were a bit larger. We drained the reservoirs,
> refilled it with new fluid and bled the lines till they ran clear using
> the old method where one guy pumps the brake and watched the fluid level
> and the stupid one crawls under the Jeep and opens and closes the bleed
> valves.
>
>
>
> "Matt Macchiarolo" <matt@nospamplease.com> wrote in message
> news:woOdnaju9_XAj53eRVn-tw@comcast.com...
>>
>> "Billy Ray" <Billy_Ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message
>> news:3783d$43000560$42a1cc8c$8984@FUSE.NET...
>>> My neighbor and I flushed the brakes on his '96 XJ and My '02 WJ this
>>> afternoon.
>>>
>>> In both our Jeeps when the lines were flushed clean we found small black
>>> floaters in the drained fluid.
>>
>> Could have been in the lines, but it could also have been in the
>> container you were draining into....
>>>
>>> On another note when we replaced the air filter in Ed's 4 liter XJ we
>>> found the inside of the throttle body to be caked with carbon or soot.
>>> What was the cause of that?
>>>
>> Side effects of the crankcase vent system, probably...not unheard of on a
>> 9-year old engine.
>>
>>> Billy_Ray@SPAM.fuse.net (remove SPAM)
>>> 2002 Jeep WJ 4 Liter Automatic
>>> Brilliant Black Crystal Pearl Coat
>>>
>>
>>
>
>
08-15-2005, 06:40 AM
#25
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Re: Flushing brake lines
That's why VW recommends flushing your bake system every two years. I've
seen some that were neglected and it looked like tobacco spit!
JoBo
"Billy Ray" <Billy_Ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message
news:6abcf$430018aa$42a1cc8c$20517@FUSE.NET...
> Two different clean containers were used. Both systems were flushed with
> Valvoline Synpower Synthetic Formula brake fluid
>
> There were also some of these dark floaters in Ed's master cylinder when
> we drained it and they were a bit larger. We drained the reservoirs,
> refilled it with new fluid and bled the lines till they ran clear using
> the old method where one guy pumps the brake and watched the fluid level
> and the stupid one crawls under the Jeep and opens and closes the bleed
> valves.
>
>
>
> "Matt Macchiarolo" <matt@nospamplease.com> wrote in message
> news:woOdnaju9_XAj53eRVn-tw@comcast.com...
>>
>> "Billy Ray" <Billy_Ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message
>> news:3783d$43000560$42a1cc8c$8984@FUSE.NET...
>>> My neighbor and I flushed the brakes on his '96 XJ and My '02 WJ this
>>> afternoon.
>>>
>>> In both our Jeeps when the lines were flushed clean we found small black
>>> floaters in the drained fluid.
>>
>> Could have been in the lines, but it could also have been in the
>> container you were draining into....
>>>
>>> On another note when we replaced the air filter in Ed's 4 liter XJ we
>>> found the inside of the throttle body to be caked with carbon or soot.
>>> What was the cause of that?
>>>
>> Side effects of the crankcase vent system, probably...not unheard of on a
>> 9-year old engine.
>>
>>> Billy_Ray@SPAM.fuse.net (remove SPAM)
>>> 2002 Jeep WJ 4 Liter Automatic
>>> Brilliant Black Crystal Pearl Coat
>>>
>>
>>
>
>
seen some that were neglected and it looked like tobacco spit!
JoBo
"Billy Ray" <Billy_Ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message
news:6abcf$430018aa$42a1cc8c$20517@FUSE.NET...
> Two different clean containers were used. Both systems were flushed with
> Valvoline Synpower Synthetic Formula brake fluid
>
> There were also some of these dark floaters in Ed's master cylinder when
> we drained it and they were a bit larger. We drained the reservoirs,
> refilled it with new fluid and bled the lines till they ran clear using
> the old method where one guy pumps the brake and watched the fluid level
> and the stupid one crawls under the Jeep and opens and closes the bleed
> valves.
>
>
>
> "Matt Macchiarolo" <matt@nospamplease.com> wrote in message
> news:woOdnaju9_XAj53eRVn-tw@comcast.com...
>>
>> "Billy Ray" <Billy_Ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message
>> news:3783d$43000560$42a1cc8c$8984@FUSE.NET...
>>> My neighbor and I flushed the brakes on his '96 XJ and My '02 WJ this
>>> afternoon.
>>>
>>> In both our Jeeps when the lines were flushed clean we found small black
>>> floaters in the drained fluid.
>>
>> Could have been in the lines, but it could also have been in the
>> container you were draining into....
>>>
>>> On another note when we replaced the air filter in Ed's 4 liter XJ we
>>> found the inside of the throttle body to be caked with carbon or soot.
>>> What was the cause of that?
>>>
>> Side effects of the crankcase vent system, probably...not unheard of on a
>> 9-year old engine.
>>
>>> Billy_Ray@SPAM.fuse.net (remove SPAM)
>>> 2002 Jeep WJ 4 Liter Automatic
>>> Brilliant Black Crystal Pearl Coat
>>>
>>
>>
>
>
08-15-2005, 09:48 AM
#26
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Re: Flushing brake lines
The black stuff isn't as bad as the water that can accumulate. That is
where your pitted cylinder walls and pistons come from.
Earle
"Jo Bo" <jromasSPAM@columbus.rr.com> wrote in message
news:Ji_Le.73048$yC5.31100@tornado.ohiordc.rr.com. ..
> That's why VW recommends flushing your bake system every two years. I've
> seen some that were neglected and it looked like tobacco spit!
>
> JoBo
>
> "Billy Ray" <Billy_Ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message
> news:6abcf$430018aa$42a1cc8c$20517@FUSE.NET...
> > Two different clean containers were used. Both systems were flushed
with
> > Valvoline Synpower Synthetic Formula brake fluid
> >
> > There were also some of these dark floaters in Ed's master cylinder when
> > we drained it and they were a bit larger. We drained the reservoirs,
> > refilled it with new fluid and bled the lines till they ran clear using
> > the old method where one guy pumps the brake and watched the fluid level
> > and the stupid one crawls under the Jeep and opens and closes the bleed
> > valves.
> >
> >
> >
> > "Matt Macchiarolo" <matt@nospamplease.com> wrote in message
> > news:woOdnaju9_XAj53eRVn-tw@comcast.com...
> >>
> >> "Billy Ray" <Billy_Ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message
> >> news:3783d$43000560$42a1cc8c$8984@FUSE.NET...
> >>> My neighbor and I flushed the brakes on his '96 XJ and My '02 WJ this
> >>> afternoon.
> >>>
> >>> In both our Jeeps when the lines were flushed clean we found small
black
> >>> floaters in the drained fluid.
> >>
> >> Could have been in the lines, but it could also have been in the
> >> container you were draining into....
> >>>
> >>> On another note when we replaced the air filter in Ed's 4 liter XJ we
> >>> found the inside of the throttle body to be caked with carbon or soot.
> >>> What was the cause of that?
> >>>
> >> Side effects of the crankcase vent system, probably...not unheard of on
a
> >> 9-year old engine.
> >>
> >>> Billy_Ray@SPAM.fuse.net (remove SPAM)
> >>> 2002 Jeep WJ 4 Liter Automatic
> >>> Brilliant Black Crystal Pearl Coat
> >>>
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
>
>
where your pitted cylinder walls and pistons come from.
Earle
"Jo Bo" <jromasSPAM@columbus.rr.com> wrote in message
news:Ji_Le.73048$yC5.31100@tornado.ohiordc.rr.com. ..
> That's why VW recommends flushing your bake system every two years. I've
> seen some that were neglected and it looked like tobacco spit!
>
> JoBo
>
> "Billy Ray" <Billy_Ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message
> news:6abcf$430018aa$42a1cc8c$20517@FUSE.NET...
> > Two different clean containers were used. Both systems were flushed
with
> > Valvoline Synpower Synthetic Formula brake fluid
> >
> > There were also some of these dark floaters in Ed's master cylinder when
> > we drained it and they were a bit larger. We drained the reservoirs,
> > refilled it with new fluid and bled the lines till they ran clear using
> > the old method where one guy pumps the brake and watched the fluid level
> > and the stupid one crawls under the Jeep and opens and closes the bleed
> > valves.
> >
> >
> >
> > "Matt Macchiarolo" <matt@nospamplease.com> wrote in message
> > news:woOdnaju9_XAj53eRVn-tw@comcast.com...
> >>
> >> "Billy Ray" <Billy_Ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message
> >> news:3783d$43000560$42a1cc8c$8984@FUSE.NET...
> >>> My neighbor and I flushed the brakes on his '96 XJ and My '02 WJ this
> >>> afternoon.
> >>>
> >>> In both our Jeeps when the lines were flushed clean we found small
black
> >>> floaters in the drained fluid.
> >>
> >> Could have been in the lines, but it could also have been in the
> >> container you were draining into....
> >>>
> >>> On another note when we replaced the air filter in Ed's 4 liter XJ we
> >>> found the inside of the throttle body to be caked with carbon or soot.
> >>> What was the cause of that?
> >>>
> >> Side effects of the crankcase vent system, probably...not unheard of on
a
> >> 9-year old engine.
> >>
> >>> Billy_Ray@SPAM.fuse.net (remove SPAM)
> >>> 2002 Jeep WJ 4 Liter Automatic
> >>> Brilliant Black Crystal Pearl Coat
> >>>
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
>
>
08-15-2005, 09:48 AM
#27
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Posts: n/a
Re: Flushing brake lines
The black stuff isn't as bad as the water that can accumulate. That is
where your pitted cylinder walls and pistons come from.
Earle
"Jo Bo" <jromasSPAM@columbus.rr.com> wrote in message
news:Ji_Le.73048$yC5.31100@tornado.ohiordc.rr.com. ..
> That's why VW recommends flushing your bake system every two years. I've
> seen some that were neglected and it looked like tobacco spit!
>
> JoBo
>
> "Billy Ray" <Billy_Ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message
> news:6abcf$430018aa$42a1cc8c$20517@FUSE.NET...
> > Two different clean containers were used. Both systems were flushed
with
> > Valvoline Synpower Synthetic Formula brake fluid
> >
> > There were also some of these dark floaters in Ed's master cylinder when
> > we drained it and they were a bit larger. We drained the reservoirs,
> > refilled it with new fluid and bled the lines till they ran clear using
> > the old method where one guy pumps the brake and watched the fluid level
> > and the stupid one crawls under the Jeep and opens and closes the bleed
> > valves.
> >
> >
> >
> > "Matt Macchiarolo" <matt@nospamplease.com> wrote in message
> > news:woOdnaju9_XAj53eRVn-tw@comcast.com...
> >>
> >> "Billy Ray" <Billy_Ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message
> >> news:3783d$43000560$42a1cc8c$8984@FUSE.NET...
> >>> My neighbor and I flushed the brakes on his '96 XJ and My '02 WJ this
> >>> afternoon.
> >>>
> >>> In both our Jeeps when the lines were flushed clean we found small
black
> >>> floaters in the drained fluid.
> >>
> >> Could have been in the lines, but it could also have been in the
> >> container you were draining into....
> >>>
> >>> On another note when we replaced the air filter in Ed's 4 liter XJ we
> >>> found the inside of the throttle body to be caked with carbon or soot.
> >>> What was the cause of that?
> >>>
> >> Side effects of the crankcase vent system, probably...not unheard of on
a
> >> 9-year old engine.
> >>
> >>> Billy_Ray@SPAM.fuse.net (remove SPAM)
> >>> 2002 Jeep WJ 4 Liter Automatic
> >>> Brilliant Black Crystal Pearl Coat
> >>>
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
>
>
where your pitted cylinder walls and pistons come from.
Earle
"Jo Bo" <jromasSPAM@columbus.rr.com> wrote in message
news:Ji_Le.73048$yC5.31100@tornado.ohiordc.rr.com. ..
> That's why VW recommends flushing your bake system every two years. I've
> seen some that were neglected and it looked like tobacco spit!
>
> JoBo
>
> "Billy Ray" <Billy_Ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message
> news:6abcf$430018aa$42a1cc8c$20517@FUSE.NET...
> > Two different clean containers were used. Both systems were flushed
with
> > Valvoline Synpower Synthetic Formula brake fluid
> >
> > There were also some of these dark floaters in Ed's master cylinder when
> > we drained it and they were a bit larger. We drained the reservoirs,
> > refilled it with new fluid and bled the lines till they ran clear using
> > the old method where one guy pumps the brake and watched the fluid level
> > and the stupid one crawls under the Jeep and opens and closes the bleed
> > valves.
> >
> >
> >
> > "Matt Macchiarolo" <matt@nospamplease.com> wrote in message
> > news:woOdnaju9_XAj53eRVn-tw@comcast.com...
> >>
> >> "Billy Ray" <Billy_Ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message
> >> news:3783d$43000560$42a1cc8c$8984@FUSE.NET...
> >>> My neighbor and I flushed the brakes on his '96 XJ and My '02 WJ this
> >>> afternoon.
> >>>
> >>> In both our Jeeps when the lines were flushed clean we found small
black
> >>> floaters in the drained fluid.
> >>
> >> Could have been in the lines, but it could also have been in the
> >> container you were draining into....
> >>>
> >>> On another note when we replaced the air filter in Ed's 4 liter XJ we
> >>> found the inside of the throttle body to be caked with carbon or soot.
> >>> What was the cause of that?
> >>>
> >> Side effects of the crankcase vent system, probably...not unheard of on
a
> >> 9-year old engine.
> >>
> >>> Billy_Ray@SPAM.fuse.net (remove SPAM)
> >>> 2002 Jeep WJ 4 Liter Automatic
> >>> Brilliant Black Crystal Pearl Coat
> >>>
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
>
>
08-15-2005, 09:48 AM
#28
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Flushing brake lines
The black stuff isn't as bad as the water that can accumulate. That is
where your pitted cylinder walls and pistons come from.
Earle
"Jo Bo" <jromasSPAM@columbus.rr.com> wrote in message
news:Ji_Le.73048$yC5.31100@tornado.ohiordc.rr.com. ..
> That's why VW recommends flushing your bake system every two years. I've
> seen some that were neglected and it looked like tobacco spit!
>
> JoBo
>
> "Billy Ray" <Billy_Ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message
> news:6abcf$430018aa$42a1cc8c$20517@FUSE.NET...
> > Two different clean containers were used. Both systems were flushed
with
> > Valvoline Synpower Synthetic Formula brake fluid
> >
> > There were also some of these dark floaters in Ed's master cylinder when
> > we drained it and they were a bit larger. We drained the reservoirs,
> > refilled it with new fluid and bled the lines till they ran clear using
> > the old method where one guy pumps the brake and watched the fluid level
> > and the stupid one crawls under the Jeep and opens and closes the bleed
> > valves.
> >
> >
> >
> > "Matt Macchiarolo" <matt@nospamplease.com> wrote in message
> > news:woOdnaju9_XAj53eRVn-tw@comcast.com...
> >>
> >> "Billy Ray" <Billy_Ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message
> >> news:3783d$43000560$42a1cc8c$8984@FUSE.NET...
> >>> My neighbor and I flushed the brakes on his '96 XJ and My '02 WJ this
> >>> afternoon.
> >>>
> >>> In both our Jeeps when the lines were flushed clean we found small
black
> >>> floaters in the drained fluid.
> >>
> >> Could have been in the lines, but it could also have been in the
> >> container you were draining into....
> >>>
> >>> On another note when we replaced the air filter in Ed's 4 liter XJ we
> >>> found the inside of the throttle body to be caked with carbon or soot.
> >>> What was the cause of that?
> >>>
> >> Side effects of the crankcase vent system, probably...not unheard of on
a
> >> 9-year old engine.
> >>
> >>> Billy_Ray@SPAM.fuse.net (remove SPAM)
> >>> 2002 Jeep WJ 4 Liter Automatic
> >>> Brilliant Black Crystal Pearl Coat
> >>>
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
>
>
where your pitted cylinder walls and pistons come from.
Earle
"Jo Bo" <jromasSPAM@columbus.rr.com> wrote in message
news:Ji_Le.73048$yC5.31100@tornado.ohiordc.rr.com. ..
> That's why VW recommends flushing your bake system every two years. I've
> seen some that were neglected and it looked like tobacco spit!
>
> JoBo
>
> "Billy Ray" <Billy_Ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message
> news:6abcf$430018aa$42a1cc8c$20517@FUSE.NET...
> > Two different clean containers were used. Both systems were flushed
with
> > Valvoline Synpower Synthetic Formula brake fluid
> >
> > There were also some of these dark floaters in Ed's master cylinder when
> > we drained it and they were a bit larger. We drained the reservoirs,
> > refilled it with new fluid and bled the lines till they ran clear using
> > the old method where one guy pumps the brake and watched the fluid level
> > and the stupid one crawls under the Jeep and opens and closes the bleed
> > valves.
> >
> >
> >
> > "Matt Macchiarolo" <matt@nospamplease.com> wrote in message
> > news:woOdnaju9_XAj53eRVn-tw@comcast.com...
> >>
> >> "Billy Ray" <Billy_Ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message
> >> news:3783d$43000560$42a1cc8c$8984@FUSE.NET...
> >>> My neighbor and I flushed the brakes on his '96 XJ and My '02 WJ this
> >>> afternoon.
> >>>
> >>> In both our Jeeps when the lines were flushed clean we found small
black
> >>> floaters in the drained fluid.
> >>
> >> Could have been in the lines, but it could also have been in the
> >> container you were draining into....
> >>>
> >>> On another note when we replaced the air filter in Ed's 4 liter XJ we
> >>> found the inside of the throttle body to be caked with carbon or soot.
> >>> What was the cause of that?
> >>>
> >> Side effects of the crankcase vent system, probably...not unheard of on
a
> >> 9-year old engine.
> >>
> >>> Billy_Ray@SPAM.fuse.net (remove SPAM)
> >>> 2002 Jeep WJ 4 Liter Automatic
> >>> Brilliant Black Crystal Pearl Coat
> >>>
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
>
>
08-15-2005, 09:48 AM
#29
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Flushing brake lines
The black stuff isn't as bad as the water that can accumulate. That is
where your pitted cylinder walls and pistons come from.
Earle
"Jo Bo" <jromasSPAM@columbus.rr.com> wrote in message
news:Ji_Le.73048$yC5.31100@tornado.ohiordc.rr.com. ..
> That's why VW recommends flushing your bake system every two years. I've
> seen some that were neglected and it looked like tobacco spit!
>
> JoBo
>
> "Billy Ray" <Billy_Ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message
> news:6abcf$430018aa$42a1cc8c$20517@FUSE.NET...
> > Two different clean containers were used. Both systems were flushed
with
> > Valvoline Synpower Synthetic Formula brake fluid
> >
> > There were also some of these dark floaters in Ed's master cylinder when
> > we drained it and they were a bit larger. We drained the reservoirs,
> > refilled it with new fluid and bled the lines till they ran clear using
> > the old method where one guy pumps the brake and watched the fluid level
> > and the stupid one crawls under the Jeep and opens and closes the bleed
> > valves.
> >
> >
> >
> > "Matt Macchiarolo" <matt@nospamplease.com> wrote in message
> > news:woOdnaju9_XAj53eRVn-tw@comcast.com...
> >>
> >> "Billy Ray" <Billy_Ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message
> >> news:3783d$43000560$42a1cc8c$8984@FUSE.NET...
> >>> My neighbor and I flushed the brakes on his '96 XJ and My '02 WJ this
> >>> afternoon.
> >>>
> >>> In both our Jeeps when the lines were flushed clean we found small
black
> >>> floaters in the drained fluid.
> >>
> >> Could have been in the lines, but it could also have been in the
> >> container you were draining into....
> >>>
> >>> On another note when we replaced the air filter in Ed's 4 liter XJ we
> >>> found the inside of the throttle body to be caked with carbon or soot.
> >>> What was the cause of that?
> >>>
> >> Side effects of the crankcase vent system, probably...not unheard of on
a
> >> 9-year old engine.
> >>
> >>> Billy_Ray@SPAM.fuse.net (remove SPAM)
> >>> 2002 Jeep WJ 4 Liter Automatic
> >>> Brilliant Black Crystal Pearl Coat
> >>>
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
>
>
where your pitted cylinder walls and pistons come from.
Earle
"Jo Bo" <jromasSPAM@columbus.rr.com> wrote in message
news:Ji_Le.73048$yC5.31100@tornado.ohiordc.rr.com. ..
> That's why VW recommends flushing your bake system every two years. I've
> seen some that were neglected and it looked like tobacco spit!
>
> JoBo
>
> "Billy Ray" <Billy_Ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message
> news:6abcf$430018aa$42a1cc8c$20517@FUSE.NET...
> > Two different clean containers were used. Both systems were flushed
with
> > Valvoline Synpower Synthetic Formula brake fluid
> >
> > There were also some of these dark floaters in Ed's master cylinder when
> > we drained it and they were a bit larger. We drained the reservoirs,
> > refilled it with new fluid and bled the lines till they ran clear using
> > the old method where one guy pumps the brake and watched the fluid level
> > and the stupid one crawls under the Jeep and opens and closes the bleed
> > valves.
> >
> >
> >
> > "Matt Macchiarolo" <matt@nospamplease.com> wrote in message
> > news:woOdnaju9_XAj53eRVn-tw@comcast.com...
> >>
> >> "Billy Ray" <Billy_Ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message
> >> news:3783d$43000560$42a1cc8c$8984@FUSE.NET...
> >>> My neighbor and I flushed the brakes on his '96 XJ and My '02 WJ this
> >>> afternoon.
> >>>
> >>> In both our Jeeps when the lines were flushed clean we found small
black
> >>> floaters in the drained fluid.
> >>
> >> Could have been in the lines, but it could also have been in the
> >> container you were draining into....
> >>>
> >>> On another note when we replaced the air filter in Ed's 4 liter XJ we
> >>> found the inside of the throttle body to be caked with carbon or soot.
> >>> What was the cause of that?
> >>>
> >> Side effects of the crankcase vent system, probably...not unheard of on
a
> >> 9-year old engine.
> >>
> >>> Billy_Ray@SPAM.fuse.net (remove SPAM)
> >>> 2002 Jeep WJ 4 Liter Automatic
> >>> Brilliant Black Crystal Pearl Coat
> >>>
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
>
>
08-15-2005, 12:35 PM
#30
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Flushing brake lines
So what is / was the black stuff?
"Earle Horton" <nurse--NOSPAM--busters@msn.com> wrote in message
news:1124113456.6c7a2504e401b45f9c14ec6804000ea2@t eranews...
> The black stuff isn't as bad as the water that can accumulate. That is
> where your pitted cylinder walls and pistons come from.
>
> Earle
>
> "Jo Bo" <jromasSPAM@columbus.rr.com> wrote in message
> news:Ji_Le.73048$yC5.31100@tornado.ohiordc.rr.com. ..
>> That's why VW recommends flushing your bake system every two years. I've
>> seen some that were neglected and it looked like tobacco spit!
>>
>> JoBo
>>
>> "Billy Ray" <Billy_Ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message
>> news:6abcf$430018aa$42a1cc8c$20517@FUSE.NET...
>> > Two different clean containers were used. Both systems were flushed
> with
>> > Valvoline Synpower Synthetic Formula brake fluid
>> >
>> > There were also some of these dark floaters in Ed's master cylinder
>> > when
>> > we drained it and they were a bit larger. We drained the reservoirs,
>> > refilled it with new fluid and bled the lines till they ran clear using
>> > the old method where one guy pumps the brake and watched the fluid
>> > level
>> > and the stupid one crawls under the Jeep and opens and closes the bleed
>> > valves.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > "Matt Macchiarolo" <matt@nospamplease.com> wrote in message
>> > news:woOdnaju9_XAj53eRVn-tw@comcast.com...
>> >>
>> >> "Billy Ray" <Billy_Ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message
>> >> news:3783d$43000560$42a1cc8c$8984@FUSE.NET...
>> >>> My neighbor and I flushed the brakes on his '96 XJ and My '02 WJ this
>> >>> afternoon.
>> >>>
>> >>> In both our Jeeps when the lines were flushed clean we found small
> black
>> >>> floaters in the drained fluid.
>> >>
>> >> Could have been in the lines, but it could also have been in the
>> >> container you were draining into....
>> >>>
>> >>> On another note when we replaced the air filter in Ed's 4 liter XJ we
>> >>> found the inside of the throttle body to be caked with carbon or
>> >>> soot.
>> >>> What was the cause of that?
>> >>>
>> >> Side effects of the crankcase vent system, probably...not unheard of
>> >> on
> a
>> >> 9-year old engine.
>> >>
>> >>> Billy_Ray@SPAM.fuse.net (remove SPAM)
>> >>> 2002 Jeep WJ 4 Liter Automatic
>> >>> Brilliant Black Crystal Pearl Coat
>> >>>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>
>
"Earle Horton" <nurse--NOSPAM--busters@msn.com> wrote in message
news:1124113456.6c7a2504e401b45f9c14ec6804000ea2@t eranews...
> The black stuff isn't as bad as the water that can accumulate. That is
> where your pitted cylinder walls and pistons come from.
>
> Earle
>
> "Jo Bo" <jromasSPAM@columbus.rr.com> wrote in message
> news:Ji_Le.73048$yC5.31100@tornado.ohiordc.rr.com. ..
>> That's why VW recommends flushing your bake system every two years. I've
>> seen some that were neglected and it looked like tobacco spit!
>>
>> JoBo
>>
>> "Billy Ray" <Billy_Ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message
>> news:6abcf$430018aa$42a1cc8c$20517@FUSE.NET...
>> > Two different clean containers were used. Both systems were flushed
> with
>> > Valvoline Synpower Synthetic Formula brake fluid
>> >
>> > There were also some of these dark floaters in Ed's master cylinder
>> > when
>> > we drained it and they were a bit larger. We drained the reservoirs,
>> > refilled it with new fluid and bled the lines till they ran clear using
>> > the old method where one guy pumps the brake and watched the fluid
>> > level
>> > and the stupid one crawls under the Jeep and opens and closes the bleed
>> > valves.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > "Matt Macchiarolo" <matt@nospamplease.com> wrote in message
>> > news:woOdnaju9_XAj53eRVn-tw@comcast.com...
>> >>
>> >> "Billy Ray" <Billy_Ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message
>> >> news:3783d$43000560$42a1cc8c$8984@FUSE.NET...
>> >>> My neighbor and I flushed the brakes on his '96 XJ and My '02 WJ this
>> >>> afternoon.
>> >>>
>> >>> In both our Jeeps when the lines were flushed clean we found small
> black
>> >>> floaters in the drained fluid.
>> >>
>> >> Could have been in the lines, but it could also have been in the
>> >> container you were draining into....
>> >>>
>> >>> On another note when we replaced the air filter in Ed's 4 liter XJ we
>> >>> found the inside of the throttle body to be caked with carbon or
>> >>> soot.
>> >>> What was the cause of that?
>> >>>
>> >> Side effects of the crankcase vent system, probably...not unheard of
>> >> on
> a
>> >> 9-year old engine.
>> >>
>> >>> Billy_Ray@SPAM.fuse.net (remove SPAM)
>> >>> 2002 Jeep WJ 4 Liter Automatic
>> >>> Brilliant Black Crystal Pearl Coat
>> >>>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>
>