L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III

Well someone has, judging by my experience, as the radiators
usually dissolve from the outside in about eight years, and the water
pump and hose give up at about the same interval. I usually got a freeze
plug job from people whom didn't change their coolant in about four
years. Of course that's topping off with our California's hard water.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
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"Fred V." wrote:
>
> I have never changed the coolant in any car I've ever owned. The car body
> rusts away or the car dies
> from other causes.
> And I've owned cars 25 years and longer.
>
> Fred

One out of many daves

Not for Jeeps but VW/Audi use 2 proprietary coolants possibly made by by
Valvoline.
This coolant should not be mixed with any other coolant or it will sludge up
pretty bad.
Now VW has a "Universal" coolant that can be mixed with either of their
coolants.
So the tally is up to 6-7 different coolant types. ;-)

> > I was amazed at how thick and black the old coolant was. I asked if
there
> > was something wrong with the vehicle that would cause that, and they
told me
> > it was pretty normal wear and tear.

I have seen this before, thick and kinda grayish-black, and I attributed it
to never changing the coolant and mixing different types together. I also
noticed that this solution ate up the metal sensor bung inside of the black
plastic radiator in a VW. Engine was fine and kept running for years until
another vehicle took it out.

It used to be a time that you were suppose to change the coolant every two
years along with a proper flushing.
Of course it was also recommended that you change the motor oil every 2-3
months too! lol
Times have changed some..........
I know that certain oil filters (VW and Audi) have recommendations that you
can change them every 2 years or 24,000 miles. Of course you will need very
good synthetic oil too! ;-)

This some nasty stuff I had to flush out.
http://vwdoc1.tripod.com/oil_cooler_failure.html

--
later,
dave AKA vwdoc1


"mabar" <xyzz4568@HotPop.com> wrote in message
news:43e2ca64$1_2@newsfeed.slurp.net...
> Hi Doug:
>
> There are more than 2 types of coolant. In fact, coolant is getting more
> confusing every year it seems.
>
> Just off the top of my head I can think of: 4 (I'm sure there are more)
>
> -"regular green" type
> - DexCool orange
> - Mopar orange (which is not compatible with DexCool)
> -Prestone makes a "universal coolant" which is supposed to be compatible
> with "any" coolant.
>
> I don't believe that the Prestone "universal" is really universal, but
> that's just me.
>
> Tom

One out of many daves

Not for Jeeps but VW/Audi use 2 proprietary coolants possibly made by by
Valvoline.
This coolant should not be mixed with any other coolant or it will sludge up
pretty bad.
Now VW has a "Universal" coolant that can be mixed with either of their
coolants.
So the tally is up to 6-7 different coolant types. ;-)

> > I was amazed at how thick and black the old coolant was. I asked if
there
> > was something wrong with the vehicle that would cause that, and they
told me
> > it was pretty normal wear and tear.

I have seen this before, thick and kinda grayish-black, and I attributed it
to never changing the coolant and mixing different types together. I also
noticed that this solution ate up the metal sensor bung inside of the black
plastic radiator in a VW. Engine was fine and kept running for years until
another vehicle took it out.

It used to be a time that you were suppose to change the coolant every two
years along with a proper flushing.
Of course it was also recommended that you change the motor oil every 2-3
months too! lol
Times have changed some..........
I know that certain oil filters (VW and Audi) have recommendations that you
can change them every 2 years or 24,000 miles. Of course you will need very
good synthetic oil too! ;-)

This some nasty stuff I had to flush out.
http://vwdoc1.tripod.com/oil_cooler_failure.html

--
later,
dave AKA vwdoc1


"mabar" <xyzz4568@HotPop.com> wrote in message
news:43e2ca64$1_2@newsfeed.slurp.net...
> Hi Doug:
>
> There are more than 2 types of coolant. In fact, coolant is getting more
> confusing every year it seems.
>
> Just off the top of my head I can think of: 4 (I'm sure there are more)
>
> -"regular green" type
> - DexCool orange
> - Mopar orange (which is not compatible with DexCool)
> -Prestone makes a "universal coolant" which is supposed to be compatible
> with "any" coolant.
>
> I don't believe that the Prestone "universal" is really universal, but
> that's just me.
>
> Tom

One out of many daves

Not for Jeeps but VW/Audi use 2 proprietary coolants possibly made by by
Valvoline.
This coolant should not be mixed with any other coolant or it will sludge up
pretty bad.
Now VW has a "Universal" coolant that can be mixed with either of their
coolants.
So the tally is up to 6-7 different coolant types. ;-)

> > I was amazed at how thick and black the old coolant was. I asked if
there
> > was something wrong with the vehicle that would cause that, and they
told me
> > it was pretty normal wear and tear.

I have seen this before, thick and kinda grayish-black, and I attributed it
to never changing the coolant and mixing different types together. I also
noticed that this solution ate up the metal sensor bung inside of the black
plastic radiator in a VW. Engine was fine and kept running for years until
another vehicle took it out.

It used to be a time that you were suppose to change the coolant every two
years along with a proper flushing.
Of course it was also recommended that you change the motor oil every 2-3
months too! lol
Times have changed some..........
I know that certain oil filters (VW and Audi) have recommendations that you
can change them every 2 years or 24,000 miles. Of course you will need very
good synthetic oil too! ;-)

This some nasty stuff I had to flush out.
http://vwdoc1.tripod.com/oil_cooler_failure.html

--
later,
dave AKA vwdoc1


"mabar" <xyzz4568@HotPop.com> wrote in message
news:43e2ca64$1_2@newsfeed.slurp.net...
> Hi Doug:
>
> There are more than 2 types of coolant. In fact, coolant is getting more
> confusing every year it seems.
>
> Just off the top of my head I can think of: 4 (I'm sure there are more)
>
> -"regular green" type
> - DexCool orange
> - Mopar orange (which is not compatible with DexCool)
> -Prestone makes a "universal coolant" which is supposed to be compatible
> with "any" coolant.
>
> I don't believe that the Prestone "universal" is really universal, but
> that's just me.
>
> Tom

DougW

One out of many daves did pass the time by typing:

> I have seen this before, thick and kinda grayish-black, and I attributed it
> to never changing the coolant and mixing different types together. I also
> noticed that this solution ate up the metal sensor bung inside of the black
> plastic radiator in a VW. Engine was fine and kept running for years until
> another vehicle took it out.

One other possibility is that goo was several tubes of stop-leak or such
radiator killer in a tube. I've seen that before at some shady used-car
dealers.

--
DougW

DougW

One out of many daves did pass the time by typing:

> I have seen this before, thick and kinda grayish-black, and I attributed it
> to never changing the coolant and mixing different types together. I also
> noticed that this solution ate up the metal sensor bung inside of the black
> plastic radiator in a VW. Engine was fine and kept running for years until
> another vehicle took it out.

One other possibility is that goo was several tubes of stop-leak or such
radiator killer in a tube. I've seen that before at some shady used-car
dealers.

--
DougW

DougW

One out of many daves did pass the time by typing:

> I have seen this before, thick and kinda grayish-black, and I attributed it
> to never changing the coolant and mixing different types together. I also
> noticed that this solution ate up the metal sensor bung inside of the black
> plastic radiator in a VW. Engine was fine and kept running for years until
> another vehicle took it out.

One other possibility is that goo was several tubes of stop-leak or such
radiator killer in a tube. I've seen that before at some shady used-car
dealers.

--
DougW

One out of many daves

Well it should not have been on this vehicle. I knew it since it was new,
so the only other way it could have gotten in the system is by the hands of
the dealer techs. It seemed more like something was disintegrating or
dissolving in the cooling system. Might have been the water pump now that I
think about it, but it should not have caused the radiator sensor bung to
erode.

mystery! lol

"DougW" <post.replies@invalid.address> wrote in message
news:Vo5Ff.37416$bF.1315@dukeread07...
> One out of many daves did pass the time by typing:
>
> > I have seen this before, thick and kinda grayish-black, and I attributed
it
> > to never changing the coolant and mixing different types together. I
also
> > noticed that this solution ate up the metal sensor bung inside of the
black
> > plastic radiator in a VW. Engine was fine and kept running for years
until
> > another vehicle took it out.
>
> One other possibility is that goo was several tubes of stop-leak or such
> radiator killer in a tube. I've seen that before at some shady used-car
> dealers.
>
> --
> DougW
>
>

One out of many daves

Well it should not have been on this vehicle. I knew it since it was new,
so the only other way it could have gotten in the system is by the hands of
the dealer techs. It seemed more like something was disintegrating or
dissolving in the cooling system. Might have been the water pump now that I
think about it, but it should not have caused the radiator sensor bung to
erode.

mystery! lol

"DougW" <post.replies@invalid.address> wrote in message
news:Vo5Ff.37416$bF.1315@dukeread07...
> One out of many daves did pass the time by typing:
>
> > I have seen this before, thick and kinda grayish-black, and I attributed
it
> > to never changing the coolant and mixing different types together. I
also
> > noticed that this solution ate up the metal sensor bung inside of the
black
> > plastic radiator in a VW. Engine was fine and kept running for years
until
> > another vehicle took it out.
>
> One other possibility is that goo was several tubes of stop-leak or such
> radiator killer in a tube. I've seen that before at some shady used-car
> dealers.
>
> --
> DougW
>
>

One out of many daves

Well it should not have been on this vehicle. I knew it since it was new,
so the only other way it could have gotten in the system is by the hands of
the dealer techs. It seemed more like something was disintegrating or
dissolving in the cooling system. Might have been the water pump now that I
think about it, but it should not have caused the radiator sensor bung to
erode.

mystery! lol

"DougW" <post.replies@invalid.address> wrote in message
news:Vo5Ff.37416$bF.1315@dukeread07...
> One out of many daves did pass the time by typing:
>
> > I have seen this before, thick and kinda grayish-black, and I attributed
it
> > to never changing the coolant and mixing different types together. I
also
> > noticed that this solution ate up the metal sensor bung inside of the
black
> > plastic radiator in a VW. Engine was fine and kept running for years
until
> > another vehicle took it out.
>
> One other possibility is that goo was several tubes of stop-leak or such
> radiator killer in a tube. I've seen that before at some shady used-car
> dealers.
>
> --
> DougW
>
>