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JimG 11-07-2003 10:23 PM

Re: flooded engine -- 84 CJ7
 
Good point!

"Lon Stowell" <LonDot.Stowell@ComcastPeriod.Net> wrote in message
news:0_Yqb.140035$HS4.1125688@attbi_s01...
> Approximately 11/7/03 15:22, JimG uttered for posterity:
>
> > Should be able to see it squirt gas as you pump the accelerator. If

it's
> > getting gas, then check for spark. Take one plug out, connect it and

lay it
> > on the engine block somewhere will it will get grounded. Turn the

engine
> > over and look for spark. Don't hold it with bare hands, it will knock

the
> > crap out of ya!

>
> And when you pull it out, if it is all wet with a gasoline smell,
> the engine was just flooded.
>
> --
> My governor can kick your governor's ass
>




JimG 11-07-2003 10:23 PM

Re: flooded engine -- 84 CJ7
 
Good point!

"Lon Stowell" <LonDot.Stowell@ComcastPeriod.Net> wrote in message
news:0_Yqb.140035$HS4.1125688@attbi_s01...
> Approximately 11/7/03 15:22, JimG uttered for posterity:
>
> > Should be able to see it squirt gas as you pump the accelerator. If

it's
> > getting gas, then check for spark. Take one plug out, connect it and

lay it
> > on the engine block somewhere will it will get grounded. Turn the

engine
> > over and look for spark. Don't hold it with bare hands, it will knock

the
> > crap out of ya!

>
> And when you pull it out, if it is all wet with a gasoline smell,
> the engine was just flooded.
>
> --
> My governor can kick your governor's ass
>




Dave 11-08-2003 02:16 PM

Re: flooded engine -- 84 CJ7
 
I wasn't sure if if the fuel pump was operating properly, so I tested
it at the filter to verify that it was pumping (and it is).... though
I can't get gas to squirt into the carb. Something must be sticking.
Is there anything I can do short of a rebuild? A Jeep mechanic
mentioned that the needle and seat assembly might be sticking (or it
could be a number of other things). Can I remove this assembly
without taking the rest of the carb off? By the way, its a Carter BBD
(for an in-line 6). Would carb cleaner help any?

The temp is about 25 degrees -- could this cause something to stick?


Suggestions please.

Thanks

DP


prillde@yahoo.com (Dave) wrote in message news:<4e6c9bb.0311071425.79a7fb4f@posting.google.c om>...
> I flooded my engine (I think) -- can't get it to start.
>
> I've already tried starting it with my foot to the floor so that the
> barrel opens but that didn't seem to work.
>
> Last night the same thing happened.... but it turned out that it
> needed gas. I really can't tell if it's flooded or if it's not
> getting enough gas. It looks
> really wet in the carb.
>
> Any suggestions?
>
>
> DP
> 84 CJ7


Dave 11-08-2003 02:16 PM

Re: flooded engine -- 84 CJ7
 
I wasn't sure if if the fuel pump was operating properly, so I tested
it at the filter to verify that it was pumping (and it is).... though
I can't get gas to squirt into the carb. Something must be sticking.
Is there anything I can do short of a rebuild? A Jeep mechanic
mentioned that the needle and seat assembly might be sticking (or it
could be a number of other things). Can I remove this assembly
without taking the rest of the carb off? By the way, its a Carter BBD
(for an in-line 6). Would carb cleaner help any?

The temp is about 25 degrees -- could this cause something to stick?


Suggestions please.

Thanks

DP


prillde@yahoo.com (Dave) wrote in message news:<4e6c9bb.0311071425.79a7fb4f@posting.google.c om>...
> I flooded my engine (I think) -- can't get it to start.
>
> I've already tried starting it with my foot to the floor so that the
> barrel opens but that didn't seem to work.
>
> Last night the same thing happened.... but it turned out that it
> needed gas. I really can't tell if it's flooded or if it's not
> getting enough gas. It looks
> really wet in the carb.
>
> Any suggestions?
>
>
> DP
> 84 CJ7


Dave 11-08-2003 02:16 PM

Re: flooded engine -- 84 CJ7
 
I wasn't sure if if the fuel pump was operating properly, so I tested
it at the filter to verify that it was pumping (and it is).... though
I can't get gas to squirt into the carb. Something must be sticking.
Is there anything I can do short of a rebuild? A Jeep mechanic
mentioned that the needle and seat assembly might be sticking (or it
could be a number of other things). Can I remove this assembly
without taking the rest of the carb off? By the way, its a Carter BBD
(for an in-line 6). Would carb cleaner help any?

The temp is about 25 degrees -- could this cause something to stick?


Suggestions please.

Thanks

DP


prillde@yahoo.com (Dave) wrote in message news:<4e6c9bb.0311071425.79a7fb4f@posting.google.c om>...
> I flooded my engine (I think) -- can't get it to start.
>
> I've already tried starting it with my foot to the floor so that the
> barrel opens but that didn't seem to work.
>
> Last night the same thing happened.... but it turned out that it
> needed gas. I really can't tell if it's flooded or if it's not
> getting enough gas. It looks
> really wet in the carb.
>
> Any suggestions?
>
>
> DP
> 84 CJ7


L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III 11-08-2003 03:21 PM

Re: flooded engine -- 84 CJ7
 
Hi Dave,
Take the fuel line off at the carburetor, it sounds like you may
have checked the return line, which would flow even if the filter was
clogged. You probably have over twenty five thousand on the filter, I'd
go ahead and replace it. And buy a kit for the carburetor, if you have a
place to work on it, where small parts roll away and get lost:
http://www.carburetorfactory.com/expvw03.html
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Dave wrote:
>
> I wasn't sure if if the fuel pump was operating properly, so I tested
> it at the filter to verify that it was pumping (and it is).... though
> I can't get gas to squirt into the carb. Something must be sticking.
> Is there anything I can do short of a rebuild? A Jeep mechanic
> mentioned that the needle and seat assembly might be sticking (or it
> could be a number of other things). Can I remove this assembly
> without taking the rest of the carb off? By the way, its a Carter BBD
> (for an in-line 6). Would carb cleaner help any?
>
> The temp is about 25 degrees -- could this cause something to stick?
>
> Suggestions please.
>
> Thanks
>
> DP
>
> prillde@yahoo.com (Dave) wrote in message news:<4e6c9bb.0311071425.79a7fb4f@posting.google.c om>...
> > I flooded my engine (I think) -- can't get it to start.
> >
> > I've already tried starting it with my foot to the floor so that the
> > barrel opens but that didn't seem to work.
> >
> > Last night the same thing happened.... but it turned out that it
> > needed gas. I really can't tell if it's flooded or if it's not
> > getting enough gas. It looks
> > really wet in the carb.
> >
> > Any suggestions?
> >
> >
> > DP
> > 84 CJ7


L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III 11-08-2003 03:21 PM

Re: flooded engine -- 84 CJ7
 
Hi Dave,
Take the fuel line off at the carburetor, it sounds like you may
have checked the return line, which would flow even if the filter was
clogged. You probably have over twenty five thousand on the filter, I'd
go ahead and replace it. And buy a kit for the carburetor, if you have a
place to work on it, where small parts roll away and get lost:
http://www.carburetorfactory.com/expvw03.html
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Dave wrote:
>
> I wasn't sure if if the fuel pump was operating properly, so I tested
> it at the filter to verify that it was pumping (and it is).... though
> I can't get gas to squirt into the carb. Something must be sticking.
> Is there anything I can do short of a rebuild? A Jeep mechanic
> mentioned that the needle and seat assembly might be sticking (or it
> could be a number of other things). Can I remove this assembly
> without taking the rest of the carb off? By the way, its a Carter BBD
> (for an in-line 6). Would carb cleaner help any?
>
> The temp is about 25 degrees -- could this cause something to stick?
>
> Suggestions please.
>
> Thanks
>
> DP
>
> prillde@yahoo.com (Dave) wrote in message news:<4e6c9bb.0311071425.79a7fb4f@posting.google.c om>...
> > I flooded my engine (I think) -- can't get it to start.
> >
> > I've already tried starting it with my foot to the floor so that the
> > barrel opens but that didn't seem to work.
> >
> > Last night the same thing happened.... but it turned out that it
> > needed gas. I really can't tell if it's flooded or if it's not
> > getting enough gas. It looks
> > really wet in the carb.
> >
> > Any suggestions?
> >
> >
> > DP
> > 84 CJ7


L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III 11-08-2003 03:21 PM

Re: flooded engine -- 84 CJ7
 
Hi Dave,
Take the fuel line off at the carburetor, it sounds like you may
have checked the return line, which would flow even if the filter was
clogged. You probably have over twenty five thousand on the filter, I'd
go ahead and replace it. And buy a kit for the carburetor, if you have a
place to work on it, where small parts roll away and get lost:
http://www.carburetorfactory.com/expvw03.html
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Dave wrote:
>
> I wasn't sure if if the fuel pump was operating properly, so I tested
> it at the filter to verify that it was pumping (and it is).... though
> I can't get gas to squirt into the carb. Something must be sticking.
> Is there anything I can do short of a rebuild? A Jeep mechanic
> mentioned that the needle and seat assembly might be sticking (or it
> could be a number of other things). Can I remove this assembly
> without taking the rest of the carb off? By the way, its a Carter BBD
> (for an in-line 6). Would carb cleaner help any?
>
> The temp is about 25 degrees -- could this cause something to stick?
>
> Suggestions please.
>
> Thanks
>
> DP
>
> prillde@yahoo.com (Dave) wrote in message news:<4e6c9bb.0311071425.79a7fb4f@posting.google.c om>...
> > I flooded my engine (I think) -- can't get it to start.
> >
> > I've already tried starting it with my foot to the floor so that the
> > barrel opens but that didn't seem to work.
> >
> > Last night the same thing happened.... but it turned out that it
> > needed gas. I really can't tell if it's flooded or if it's not
> > getting enough gas. It looks
> > really wet in the carb.
> >
> > Any suggestions?
> >
> >
> > DP
> > 84 CJ7


Mike Romain 11-08-2003 03:51 PM

Re: flooded engine -- 84 CJ7
 
Did you check it before or after the filter?

Gas needs to come out the center filter outlet. Best to take off the
filter and try to blow through it while plugging the top or smaller
outlet with your finger to see if the filter is ok.

The top outlet goes to the return line. If the return line isn't at the
top, it could have airlocked the line.

I would try tossing a 1/4 cup of gas down the carb and see what happens.

If it runs but won't idle, the idle circuit got plugged with junk.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

Dave wrote:
>
> I wasn't sure if if the fuel pump was operating properly, so I tested
> it at the filter to verify that it was pumping (and it is).... though
> I can't get gas to squirt into the carb. Something must be sticking.
> Is there anything I can do short of a rebuild? A Jeep mechanic
> mentioned that the needle and seat assembly might be sticking (or it
> could be a number of other things). Can I remove this assembly
> without taking the rest of the carb off? By the way, its a Carter BBD
> (for an in-line 6). Would carb cleaner help any?
>
> The temp is about 25 degrees -- could this cause something to stick?
>
> Suggestions please.
>
> Thanks
>
> DP
>
> prillde@yahoo.com (Dave) wrote in message news:<4e6c9bb.0311071425.79a7fb4f@posting.google.c om>...
> > I flooded my engine (I think) -- can't get it to start.
> >
> > I've already tried starting it with my foot to the floor so that the
> > barrel opens but that didn't seem to work.
> >
> > Last night the same thing happened.... but it turned out that it
> > needed gas. I really can't tell if it's flooded or if it's not
> > getting enough gas. It looks
> > really wet in the carb.
> >
> > Any suggestions?
> >
> >
> > DP
> > 84 CJ7


Mike Romain 11-08-2003 03:51 PM

Re: flooded engine -- 84 CJ7
 
Did you check it before or after the filter?

Gas needs to come out the center filter outlet. Best to take off the
filter and try to blow through it while plugging the top or smaller
outlet with your finger to see if the filter is ok.

The top outlet goes to the return line. If the return line isn't at the
top, it could have airlocked the line.

I would try tossing a 1/4 cup of gas down the carb and see what happens.

If it runs but won't idle, the idle circuit got plugged with junk.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

Dave wrote:
>
> I wasn't sure if if the fuel pump was operating properly, so I tested
> it at the filter to verify that it was pumping (and it is).... though
> I can't get gas to squirt into the carb. Something must be sticking.
> Is there anything I can do short of a rebuild? A Jeep mechanic
> mentioned that the needle and seat assembly might be sticking (or it
> could be a number of other things). Can I remove this assembly
> without taking the rest of the carb off? By the way, its a Carter BBD
> (for an in-line 6). Would carb cleaner help any?
>
> The temp is about 25 degrees -- could this cause something to stick?
>
> Suggestions please.
>
> Thanks
>
> DP
>
> prillde@yahoo.com (Dave) wrote in message news:<4e6c9bb.0311071425.79a7fb4f@posting.google.c om>...
> > I flooded my engine (I think) -- can't get it to start.
> >
> > I've already tried starting it with my foot to the floor so that the
> > barrel opens but that didn't seem to work.
> >
> > Last night the same thing happened.... but it turned out that it
> > needed gas. I really can't tell if it's flooded or if it's not
> > getting enough gas. It looks
> > really wet in the carb.
> >
> > Any suggestions?
> >
> >
> > DP
> > 84 CJ7



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