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L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III 11-07-2003 06:33 PM

Re: flooded engine -- 84 CJ7
 
Hi Dave,
Bummer. Establish whether you have a gas problem or a spark problem.
Take the air cleaner off and look down the carburetor, not running of
course and open the throttle butterflies by the linkage, you should see
the squirts of gasoline from your accelerator pump. No squirt you need
gasoline or a rebuilding kit for the carburetor. Notice if the top choke
butterfly opens partially with full throttle. Try with the use of a
flashlight see if you can look down the venturi and see a puddle at the
bottom indicating sever flooding. and you will have to let it dry out
with a stick holding the butterflies open, and probable still need
starting fluid. Check to see if you have spark by removing the coil wire
at the distributor cap side and hold it and an quarter of an inch away
for the block, and crank, and look for a blue spark, if it's healthy.
Stand back a little if your private grounds it, your in for a rude
awakening.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Dave wrote:
>
> I flooded my engine (I think) -- can't get it to start.
>
> I've already tried starting it with my foot to the floor so that the
> barrel opens but that didn't seem to work.
>
> Last night the same thing happened.... but it turned out that it
> needed gas. I really can't tell if it's flooded or if it's not
> getting enough gas. It looks
> really wet in the carb.
>
> Any suggestions?
>
> DP
> 84 CJ7


L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III 11-07-2003 06:33 PM

Re: flooded engine -- 84 CJ7
 
Hi Dave,
Bummer. Establish whether you have a gas problem or a spark problem.
Take the air cleaner off and look down the carburetor, not running of
course and open the throttle butterflies by the linkage, you should see
the squirts of gasoline from your accelerator pump. No squirt you need
gasoline or a rebuilding kit for the carburetor. Notice if the top choke
butterfly opens partially with full throttle. Try with the use of a
flashlight see if you can look down the venturi and see a puddle at the
bottom indicating sever flooding. and you will have to let it dry out
with a stick holding the butterflies open, and probable still need
starting fluid. Check to see if you have spark by removing the coil wire
at the distributor cap side and hold it and an quarter of an inch away
for the block, and crank, and look for a blue spark, if it's healthy.
Stand back a little if your private grounds it, your in for a rude
awakening.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Dave wrote:
>
> I flooded my engine (I think) -- can't get it to start.
>
> I've already tried starting it with my foot to the floor so that the
> barrel opens but that didn't seem to work.
>
> Last night the same thing happened.... but it turned out that it
> needed gas. I really can't tell if it's flooded or if it's not
> getting enough gas. It looks
> really wet in the carb.
>
> Any suggestions?
>
> DP
> 84 CJ7


L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III 11-07-2003 06:33 PM

Re: flooded engine -- 84 CJ7
 
Hi Dave,
Bummer. Establish whether you have a gas problem or a spark problem.
Take the air cleaner off and look down the carburetor, not running of
course and open the throttle butterflies by the linkage, you should see
the squirts of gasoline from your accelerator pump. No squirt you need
gasoline or a rebuilding kit for the carburetor. Notice if the top choke
butterfly opens partially with full throttle. Try with the use of a
flashlight see if you can look down the venturi and see a puddle at the
bottom indicating sever flooding. and you will have to let it dry out
with a stick holding the butterflies open, and probable still need
starting fluid. Check to see if you have spark by removing the coil wire
at the distributor cap side and hold it and an quarter of an inch away
for the block, and crank, and look for a blue spark, if it's healthy.
Stand back a little if your private grounds it, your in for a rude
awakening.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Dave wrote:
>
> I flooded my engine (I think) -- can't get it to start.
>
> I've already tried starting it with my foot to the floor so that the
> barrel opens but that didn't seem to work.
>
> Last night the same thing happened.... but it turned out that it
> needed gas. I really can't tell if it's flooded or if it's not
> getting enough gas. It looks
> really wet in the carb.
>
> Any suggestions?
>
> DP
> 84 CJ7


Mike Romain 11-07-2003 07:06 PM

Re: flooded engine -- 84 CJ7
 
What Bill said...

If there are no squirts of gas also suspect a back flow from the
charcoal canister tossing a bunch od black bits into the carb. This can
plug up the works and happens sometimes when they run out of gas.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

"L.W.(ßill) ------ III" wrote:
>
> Hi Dave,
> Bummer. Establish whether you have a gas problem or a spark problem.
> Take the air cleaner off and look down the carburetor, not running of
> course and open the throttle butterflies by the linkage, you should see
> the squirts of gasoline from your accelerator pump. No squirt you need
> gasoline or a rebuilding kit for the carburetor. Notice if the top choke
> butterfly opens partially with full throttle. Try with the use of a
> flashlight see if you can look down the venturi and see a puddle at the
> bottom indicating sever flooding. and you will have to let it dry out
> with a stick holding the butterflies open, and probable still need
> starting fluid. Check to see if you have spark by removing the coil wire
> at the distributor cap side and hold it and an quarter of an inch away
> for the block, and crank, and look for a blue spark, if it's healthy.
> Stand back a little if your private grounds it, your in for a rude
> awakening.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Dave wrote:
> >
> > I flooded my engine (I think) -- can't get it to start.
> >
> > I've already tried starting it with my foot to the floor so that the
> > barrel opens but that didn't seem to work.
> >
> > Last night the same thing happened.... but it turned out that it
> > needed gas. I really can't tell if it's flooded or if it's not
> > getting enough gas. It looks
> > really wet in the carb.
> >
> > Any suggestions?
> >
> > DP
> > 84 CJ7


Mike Romain 11-07-2003 07:06 PM

Re: flooded engine -- 84 CJ7
 
What Bill said...

If there are no squirts of gas also suspect a back flow from the
charcoal canister tossing a bunch od black bits into the carb. This can
plug up the works and happens sometimes when they run out of gas.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

"L.W.(ßill) ------ III" wrote:
>
> Hi Dave,
> Bummer. Establish whether you have a gas problem or a spark problem.
> Take the air cleaner off and look down the carburetor, not running of
> course and open the throttle butterflies by the linkage, you should see
> the squirts of gasoline from your accelerator pump. No squirt you need
> gasoline or a rebuilding kit for the carburetor. Notice if the top choke
> butterfly opens partially with full throttle. Try with the use of a
> flashlight see if you can look down the venturi and see a puddle at the
> bottom indicating sever flooding. and you will have to let it dry out
> with a stick holding the butterflies open, and probable still need
> starting fluid. Check to see if you have spark by removing the coil wire
> at the distributor cap side and hold it and an quarter of an inch away
> for the block, and crank, and look for a blue spark, if it's healthy.
> Stand back a little if your private grounds it, your in for a rude
> awakening.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Dave wrote:
> >
> > I flooded my engine (I think) -- can't get it to start.
> >
> > I've already tried starting it with my foot to the floor so that the
> > barrel opens but that didn't seem to work.
> >
> > Last night the same thing happened.... but it turned out that it
> > needed gas. I really can't tell if it's flooded or if it's not
> > getting enough gas. It looks
> > really wet in the carb.
> >
> > Any suggestions?
> >
> > DP
> > 84 CJ7


Mike Romain 11-07-2003 07:06 PM

Re: flooded engine -- 84 CJ7
 
What Bill said...

If there are no squirts of gas also suspect a back flow from the
charcoal canister tossing a bunch od black bits into the carb. This can
plug up the works and happens sometimes when they run out of gas.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

"L.W.(ßill) ------ III" wrote:
>
> Hi Dave,
> Bummer. Establish whether you have a gas problem or a spark problem.
> Take the air cleaner off and look down the carburetor, not running of
> course and open the throttle butterflies by the linkage, you should see
> the squirts of gasoline from your accelerator pump. No squirt you need
> gasoline or a rebuilding kit for the carburetor. Notice if the top choke
> butterfly opens partially with full throttle. Try with the use of a
> flashlight see if you can look down the venturi and see a puddle at the
> bottom indicating sever flooding. and you will have to let it dry out
> with a stick holding the butterflies open, and probable still need
> starting fluid. Check to see if you have spark by removing the coil wire
> at the distributor cap side and hold it and an quarter of an inch away
> for the block, and crank, and look for a blue spark, if it's healthy.
> Stand back a little if your private grounds it, your in for a rude
> awakening.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Dave wrote:
> >
> > I flooded my engine (I think) -- can't get it to start.
> >
> > I've already tried starting it with my foot to the floor so that the
> > barrel opens but that didn't seem to work.
> >
> > Last night the same thing happened.... but it turned out that it
> > needed gas. I really can't tell if it's flooded or if it's not
> > getting enough gas. It looks
> > really wet in the carb.
> >
> > Any suggestions?
> >
> > DP
> > 84 CJ7


Lon Stowell 11-07-2003 09:59 PM

Re: flooded engine -- 84 CJ7
 
Approximately 11/7/03 15:22, JimG uttered for posterity:

> Should be able to see it squirt gas as you pump the accelerator. If it's
> getting gas, then check for spark. Take one plug out, connect it and lay it
> on the engine block somewhere will it will get grounded. Turn the engine
> over and look for spark. Don't hold it with bare hands, it will knock the
> crap out of ya!


And when you pull it out, if it is all wet with a gasoline smell,
the engine was just flooded.

--
My governor can kick your governor's ass


Lon Stowell 11-07-2003 09:59 PM

Re: flooded engine -- 84 CJ7
 
Approximately 11/7/03 15:22, JimG uttered for posterity:

> Should be able to see it squirt gas as you pump the accelerator. If it's
> getting gas, then check for spark. Take one plug out, connect it and lay it
> on the engine block somewhere will it will get grounded. Turn the engine
> over and look for spark. Don't hold it with bare hands, it will knock the
> crap out of ya!


And when you pull it out, if it is all wet with a gasoline smell,
the engine was just flooded.

--
My governor can kick your governor's ass


Lon Stowell 11-07-2003 09:59 PM

Re: flooded engine -- 84 CJ7
 
Approximately 11/7/03 15:22, JimG uttered for posterity:

> Should be able to see it squirt gas as you pump the accelerator. If it's
> getting gas, then check for spark. Take one plug out, connect it and lay it
> on the engine block somewhere will it will get grounded. Turn the engine
> over and look for spark. Don't hold it with bare hands, it will knock the
> crap out of ya!


And when you pull it out, if it is all wet with a gasoline smell,
the engine was just flooded.

--
My governor can kick your governor's ass


JimG 11-07-2003 10:23 PM

Re: flooded engine -- 84 CJ7
 
Good point!

"Lon Stowell" <LonDot.Stowell@ComcastPeriod.Net> wrote in message
news:0_Yqb.140035$HS4.1125688@attbi_s01...
> Approximately 11/7/03 15:22, JimG uttered for posterity:
>
> > Should be able to see it squirt gas as you pump the accelerator. If

it's
> > getting gas, then check for spark. Take one plug out, connect it and

lay it
> > on the engine block somewhere will it will get grounded. Turn the

engine
> > over and look for spark. Don't hold it with bare hands, it will knock

the
> > crap out of ya!

>
> And when you pull it out, if it is all wet with a gasoline smell,
> the engine was just flooded.
>
> --
> My governor can kick your governor's ass
>





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