Epilogue
#121
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Re: followup - good operating temp and thermostat questions
"J. Painter" <painter@eclipse.net> wrote in message
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: Brian:
:
: Mike is actually correct.
The original post made no mention of the current operating temperature or
the t-stat temperature. Shaggie installed a new intake and carb. I am only
to assume he replaced the t-stat (as I would have) in which case he might
have installed a hotter t-stat. I never suggested that the t-stat controlled
the maximum operating temperature.
As the thread unfolds, we find out that Shaggie did indeed install a new
t-stat.
I disagreed with Mike's original post suggesting the t-stat was only
relevant during warm up. His subsequent posts were absolutely correct.
Here's a thought... Shaggie replaced his 195? t-stat with a 210 hence
running a little warmer than he's used to. Was I wrong to suggest a lower
t-stat?
Not in my mind.
-Brian
#122
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Re: followup - good operating temp and thermostat questions
Cherokee-LTD wrote:
>
> "J. Painter" <painter@eclipse.net> wrote in message
> news:bc525a41.0404300619.6e7bd085@posting.google.c om...
> : Brian:
> :
> : Mike is actually correct.
>
> The original post made no mention of the current operating temperature or
> the t-stat temperature. Shaggie installed a new intake and carb. I am only
> to assume he replaced the t-stat (as I would have) in which case he might
> have installed a hotter t-stat. I never suggested that the t-stat controlled
> the maximum operating temperature.
>
> As the thread unfolds, we find out that Shaggie did indeed install a new
> t-stat.
>
> I disagreed with Mike's original post suggesting the t-stat was only
> relevant during warm up. His subsequent posts were absolutely correct.
>
> Here's a thought... Shaggie replaced his 195? t-stat with a 210 hence
> running a little warmer than he's used to. Was I wrong to suggest a lower
> t-stat?
>
> Not in my mind.
>
> -Brian
I can see your point, I missed it.
Mike
>
> "J. Painter" <painter@eclipse.net> wrote in message
> news:bc525a41.0404300619.6e7bd085@posting.google.c om...
> : Brian:
> :
> : Mike is actually correct.
>
> The original post made no mention of the current operating temperature or
> the t-stat temperature. Shaggie installed a new intake and carb. I am only
> to assume he replaced the t-stat (as I would have) in which case he might
> have installed a hotter t-stat. I never suggested that the t-stat controlled
> the maximum operating temperature.
>
> As the thread unfolds, we find out that Shaggie did indeed install a new
> t-stat.
>
> I disagreed with Mike's original post suggesting the t-stat was only
> relevant during warm up. His subsequent posts were absolutely correct.
>
> Here's a thought... Shaggie replaced his 195? t-stat with a 210 hence
> running a little warmer than he's used to. Was I wrong to suggest a lower
> t-stat?
>
> Not in my mind.
>
> -Brian
I can see your point, I missed it.
Mike
#123
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Re: followup - good operating temp and thermostat questions
Cherokee-LTD wrote:
>
> "J. Painter" <painter@eclipse.net> wrote in message
> news:bc525a41.0404300619.6e7bd085@posting.google.c om...
> : Brian:
> :
> : Mike is actually correct.
>
> The original post made no mention of the current operating temperature or
> the t-stat temperature. Shaggie installed a new intake and carb. I am only
> to assume he replaced the t-stat (as I would have) in which case he might
> have installed a hotter t-stat. I never suggested that the t-stat controlled
> the maximum operating temperature.
>
> As the thread unfolds, we find out that Shaggie did indeed install a new
> t-stat.
>
> I disagreed with Mike's original post suggesting the t-stat was only
> relevant during warm up. His subsequent posts were absolutely correct.
>
> Here's a thought... Shaggie replaced his 195? t-stat with a 210 hence
> running a little warmer than he's used to. Was I wrong to suggest a lower
> t-stat?
>
> Not in my mind.
>
> -Brian
I can see your point, I missed it.
Mike
>
> "J. Painter" <painter@eclipse.net> wrote in message
> news:bc525a41.0404300619.6e7bd085@posting.google.c om...
> : Brian:
> :
> : Mike is actually correct.
>
> The original post made no mention of the current operating temperature or
> the t-stat temperature. Shaggie installed a new intake and carb. I am only
> to assume he replaced the t-stat (as I would have) in which case he might
> have installed a hotter t-stat. I never suggested that the t-stat controlled
> the maximum operating temperature.
>
> As the thread unfolds, we find out that Shaggie did indeed install a new
> t-stat.
>
> I disagreed with Mike's original post suggesting the t-stat was only
> relevant during warm up. His subsequent posts were absolutely correct.
>
> Here's a thought... Shaggie replaced his 195? t-stat with a 210 hence
> running a little warmer than he's used to. Was I wrong to suggest a lower
> t-stat?
>
> Not in my mind.
>
> -Brian
I can see your point, I missed it.
Mike
#124
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Re: followup - good operating temp and thermostat questions
Cherokee-LTD wrote:
>
> "J. Painter" <painter@eclipse.net> wrote in message
> news:bc525a41.0404300619.6e7bd085@posting.google.c om...
> : Brian:
> :
> : Mike is actually correct.
>
> The original post made no mention of the current operating temperature or
> the t-stat temperature. Shaggie installed a new intake and carb. I am only
> to assume he replaced the t-stat (as I would have) in which case he might
> have installed a hotter t-stat. I never suggested that the t-stat controlled
> the maximum operating temperature.
>
> As the thread unfolds, we find out that Shaggie did indeed install a new
> t-stat.
>
> I disagreed with Mike's original post suggesting the t-stat was only
> relevant during warm up. His subsequent posts were absolutely correct.
>
> Here's a thought... Shaggie replaced his 195? t-stat with a 210 hence
> running a little warmer than he's used to. Was I wrong to suggest a lower
> t-stat?
>
> Not in my mind.
>
> -Brian
I can see your point, I missed it.
Mike
>
> "J. Painter" <painter@eclipse.net> wrote in message
> news:bc525a41.0404300619.6e7bd085@posting.google.c om...
> : Brian:
> :
> : Mike is actually correct.
>
> The original post made no mention of the current operating temperature or
> the t-stat temperature. Shaggie installed a new intake and carb. I am only
> to assume he replaced the t-stat (as I would have) in which case he might
> have installed a hotter t-stat. I never suggested that the t-stat controlled
> the maximum operating temperature.
>
> As the thread unfolds, we find out that Shaggie did indeed install a new
> t-stat.
>
> I disagreed with Mike's original post suggesting the t-stat was only
> relevant during warm up. His subsequent posts were absolutely correct.
>
> Here's a thought... Shaggie replaced his 195? t-stat with a 210 hence
> running a little warmer than he's used to. Was I wrong to suggest a lower
> t-stat?
>
> Not in my mind.
>
> -Brian
I can see your point, I missed it.
Mike
#125
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Re: followup - good operating temp and thermostat questions
Cherokee-LTD wrote:
>
> "J. Painter" <painter@eclipse.net> wrote in message
> news:bc525a41.0404300619.6e7bd085@posting.google.c om...
> : Brian:
> :
> : Mike is actually correct.
>
> The original post made no mention of the current operating temperature or
> the t-stat temperature. Shaggie installed a new intake and carb. I am only
> to assume he replaced the t-stat (as I would have) in which case he might
> have installed a hotter t-stat. I never suggested that the t-stat controlled
> the maximum operating temperature.
>
> As the thread unfolds, we find out that Shaggie did indeed install a new
> t-stat.
>
> I disagreed with Mike's original post suggesting the t-stat was only
> relevant during warm up. His subsequent posts were absolutely correct.
>
> Here's a thought... Shaggie replaced his 195? t-stat with a 210 hence
> running a little warmer than he's used to. Was I wrong to suggest a lower
> t-stat?
>
> Not in my mind.
>
> -Brian
I can see your point, I missed it.
Mike
>
> "J. Painter" <painter@eclipse.net> wrote in message
> news:bc525a41.0404300619.6e7bd085@posting.google.c om...
> : Brian:
> :
> : Mike is actually correct.
>
> The original post made no mention of the current operating temperature or
> the t-stat temperature. Shaggie installed a new intake and carb. I am only
> to assume he replaced the t-stat (as I would have) in which case he might
> have installed a hotter t-stat. I never suggested that the t-stat controlled
> the maximum operating temperature.
>
> As the thread unfolds, we find out that Shaggie did indeed install a new
> t-stat.
>
> I disagreed with Mike's original post suggesting the t-stat was only
> relevant during warm up. His subsequent posts were absolutely correct.
>
> Here's a thought... Shaggie replaced his 195? t-stat with a 210 hence
> running a little warmer than he's used to. Was I wrong to suggest a lower
> t-stat?
>
> Not in my mind.
>
> -Brian
I can see your point, I missed it.
Mike
#126
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Re: followup - good operating temp and thermostat questions
On Fri, 30 Apr 2004 09:23:55 -0400 in rec.autos.makers.jeep+******, Mike
Romain <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote,
>A 160 t-stat and a 195 t-stat are physically the same size. When fully
>open they both allow the same flow.
>
>When the engine internally reaches 160, the first one opens. When the
>engine internally hits 195, the second one opens.
>
>Once the engine has passed this 160 or 195 degree mark, the thermostat
>never budges from wide open.
>
>Take a TJ for instance. No matter what t-stat you put in it, it 'will'
>run at 210 degrees. It just warms up faster with the hotter t-stat.
>
Slight correction: a 195 degree thermostat starts to crack open at 195
degrees F (90 C) enough to clear a .003 inch feeler gauge. It may take
up to 218 degrees F (103 C) for it to be wide open and still be within
spec. So at 210 the thermostat may still be doing some temp regulation.
Romain <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote,
>A 160 t-stat and a 195 t-stat are physically the same size. When fully
>open they both allow the same flow.
>
>When the engine internally reaches 160, the first one opens. When the
>engine internally hits 195, the second one opens.
>
>Once the engine has passed this 160 or 195 degree mark, the thermostat
>never budges from wide open.
>
>Take a TJ for instance. No matter what t-stat you put in it, it 'will'
>run at 210 degrees. It just warms up faster with the hotter t-stat.
>
Slight correction: a 195 degree thermostat starts to crack open at 195
degrees F (90 C) enough to clear a .003 inch feeler gauge. It may take
up to 218 degrees F (103 C) for it to be wide open and still be within
spec. So at 210 the thermostat may still be doing some temp regulation.
#127
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Re: followup - good operating temp and thermostat questions
On Fri, 30 Apr 2004 09:23:55 -0400 in rec.autos.makers.jeep+******, Mike
Romain <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote,
>A 160 t-stat and a 195 t-stat are physically the same size. When fully
>open they both allow the same flow.
>
>When the engine internally reaches 160, the first one opens. When the
>engine internally hits 195, the second one opens.
>
>Once the engine has passed this 160 or 195 degree mark, the thermostat
>never budges from wide open.
>
>Take a TJ for instance. No matter what t-stat you put in it, it 'will'
>run at 210 degrees. It just warms up faster with the hotter t-stat.
>
Slight correction: a 195 degree thermostat starts to crack open at 195
degrees F (90 C) enough to clear a .003 inch feeler gauge. It may take
up to 218 degrees F (103 C) for it to be wide open and still be within
spec. So at 210 the thermostat may still be doing some temp regulation.
Romain <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote,
>A 160 t-stat and a 195 t-stat are physically the same size. When fully
>open they both allow the same flow.
>
>When the engine internally reaches 160, the first one opens. When the
>engine internally hits 195, the second one opens.
>
>Once the engine has passed this 160 or 195 degree mark, the thermostat
>never budges from wide open.
>
>Take a TJ for instance. No matter what t-stat you put in it, it 'will'
>run at 210 degrees. It just warms up faster with the hotter t-stat.
>
Slight correction: a 195 degree thermostat starts to crack open at 195
degrees F (90 C) enough to clear a .003 inch feeler gauge. It may take
up to 218 degrees F (103 C) for it to be wide open and still be within
spec. So at 210 the thermostat may still be doing some temp regulation.
#128
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Re: followup - good operating temp and thermostat questions
On Fri, 30 Apr 2004 09:23:55 -0400 in rec.autos.makers.jeep+******, Mike
Romain <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote,
>A 160 t-stat and a 195 t-stat are physically the same size. When fully
>open they both allow the same flow.
>
>When the engine internally reaches 160, the first one opens. When the
>engine internally hits 195, the second one opens.
>
>Once the engine has passed this 160 or 195 degree mark, the thermostat
>never budges from wide open.
>
>Take a TJ for instance. No matter what t-stat you put in it, it 'will'
>run at 210 degrees. It just warms up faster with the hotter t-stat.
>
Slight correction: a 195 degree thermostat starts to crack open at 195
degrees F (90 C) enough to clear a .003 inch feeler gauge. It may take
up to 218 degrees F (103 C) for it to be wide open and still be within
spec. So at 210 the thermostat may still be doing some temp regulation.
Romain <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote,
>A 160 t-stat and a 195 t-stat are physically the same size. When fully
>open they both allow the same flow.
>
>When the engine internally reaches 160, the first one opens. When the
>engine internally hits 195, the second one opens.
>
>Once the engine has passed this 160 or 195 degree mark, the thermostat
>never budges from wide open.
>
>Take a TJ for instance. No matter what t-stat you put in it, it 'will'
>run at 210 degrees. It just warms up faster with the hotter t-stat.
>
Slight correction: a 195 degree thermostat starts to crack open at 195
degrees F (90 C) enough to clear a .003 inch feeler gauge. It may take
up to 218 degrees F (103 C) for it to be wide open and still be within
spec. So at 210 the thermostat may still be doing some temp regulation.
#129
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Re: followup - good operating temp and thermostat questions
On Fri, 30 Apr 2004 09:23:55 -0400 in rec.autos.makers.jeep+******, Mike
Romain <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote,
>A 160 t-stat and a 195 t-stat are physically the same size. When fully
>open they both allow the same flow.
>
>When the engine internally reaches 160, the first one opens. When the
>engine internally hits 195, the second one opens.
>
>Once the engine has passed this 160 or 195 degree mark, the thermostat
>never budges from wide open.
>
>Take a TJ for instance. No matter what t-stat you put in it, it 'will'
>run at 210 degrees. It just warms up faster with the hotter t-stat.
>
Slight correction: a 195 degree thermostat starts to crack open at 195
degrees F (90 C) enough to clear a .003 inch feeler gauge. It may take
up to 218 degrees F (103 C) for it to be wide open and still be within
spec. So at 210 the thermostat may still be doing some temp regulation.
Romain <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote,
>A 160 t-stat and a 195 t-stat are physically the same size. When fully
>open they both allow the same flow.
>
>When the engine internally reaches 160, the first one opens. When the
>engine internally hits 195, the second one opens.
>
>Once the engine has passed this 160 or 195 degree mark, the thermostat
>never budges from wide open.
>
>Take a TJ for instance. No matter what t-stat you put in it, it 'will'
>run at 210 degrees. It just warms up faster with the hotter t-stat.
>
Slight correction: a 195 degree thermostat starts to crack open at 195
degrees F (90 C) enough to clear a .003 inch feeler gauge. It may take
up to 218 degrees F (103 C) for it to be wide open and still be within
spec. So at 210 the thermostat may still be doing some temp regulation.