Shaggie

Shaggie <travist34@snotmail.com> wrote in news:c6rpnv$ff063$1@ID-
163201.news.uni-berlin.de:

>
>>:
>> Bring a lower t-stat and some tools with you as well.
>> -Brian

Brian, why did you say that? Mike says the thermostat only is relevant
during the warmup period of the engine.

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I can hammer it back into shape later...
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Mike Romain

Too much of a good thing isn't sometimes...

The t-stat is a metered hole designed to match the needs of the engine.
When you take it out, you make too big a hole so the fluid speeds up.
This means it doesn't stay in the rad long enough to cool down.

You can put a restricter in if you take the t-stat out.

Some folks try a colder t-stat and extra fans to make them run cooler
although I don't think it works well if at all.

A colder street engine isn't any more efficient or anything. The best
mileage is had with a warmed up engine.

Mike

Shaggie wrote:
>
> Mike Romain <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in news:40916D0E.1C46FE52
> @sympatico.ca:
>
> > The thermostat is only for the warm up time, it has no bearing once
> > heated up.
>
> I've heard stories of how some people have tried removing their thermostats
> to make their engine run cooler and how that actually will make your engine
> run hotter. I don't understand how that can be if the thermostat has no
> bearing on operating temperature once the engine is warmed up. I'm sure
> there's something else there at play that I don't know about. Could you
> explain this to me? Thank you.
>
> --
>
> I can hammer it back into shape later...
> :wq!

Mike Romain

Too much of a good thing isn't sometimes...

The t-stat is a metered hole designed to match the needs of the engine.
When you take it out, you make too big a hole so the fluid speeds up.
This means it doesn't stay in the rad long enough to cool down.

You can put a restricter in if you take the t-stat out.

Some folks try a colder t-stat and extra fans to make them run cooler
although I don't think it works well if at all.

A colder street engine isn't any more efficient or anything. The best
mileage is had with a warmed up engine.

Mike

Shaggie wrote:
>
> Mike Romain <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in news:40916D0E.1C46FE52
> @sympatico.ca:
>
> > The thermostat is only for the warm up time, it has no bearing once
> > heated up.
>
> I've heard stories of how some people have tried removing their thermostats
> to make their engine run cooler and how that actually will make your engine
> run hotter. I don't understand how that can be if the thermostat has no
> bearing on operating temperature once the engine is warmed up. I'm sure
> there's something else there at play that I don't know about. Could you
> explain this to me? Thank you.
>
> --
>
> I can hammer it back into shape later...
> :wq!

Mike Romain

Too much of a good thing isn't sometimes...

The t-stat is a metered hole designed to match the needs of the engine.
When you take it out, you make too big a hole so the fluid speeds up.
This means it doesn't stay in the rad long enough to cool down.

You can put a restricter in if you take the t-stat out.

Some folks try a colder t-stat and extra fans to make them run cooler
although I don't think it works well if at all.

A colder street engine isn't any more efficient or anything. The best
mileage is had with a warmed up engine.

Mike

Shaggie wrote:
>
> Mike Romain <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in news:40916D0E.1C46FE52
> @sympatico.ca:
>
> > The thermostat is only for the warm up time, it has no bearing once
> > heated up.
>
> I've heard stories of how some people have tried removing their thermostats
> to make their engine run cooler and how that actually will make your engine
> run hotter. I don't understand how that can be if the thermostat has no
> bearing on operating temperature once the engine is warmed up. I'm sure
> there's something else there at play that I don't know about. Could you
> explain this to me? Thank you.
>
> --
>
> I can hammer it back into shape later...
> :wq!

Mike Romain

Too much of a good thing isn't sometimes...

The t-stat is a metered hole designed to match the needs of the engine.
When you take it out, you make too big a hole so the fluid speeds up.
This means it doesn't stay in the rad long enough to cool down.

You can put a restricter in if you take the t-stat out.

Some folks try a colder t-stat and extra fans to make them run cooler
although I don't think it works well if at all.

A colder street engine isn't any more efficient or anything. The best
mileage is had with a warmed up engine.

Mike

Shaggie wrote:
>
> Mike Romain <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in news:40916D0E.1C46FE52
> @sympatico.ca:
>
> > The thermostat is only for the warm up time, it has no bearing once
> > heated up.
>
> I've heard stories of how some people have tried removing their thermostats
> to make their engine run cooler and how that actually will make your engine
> run hotter. I don't understand how that can be if the thermostat has no
> bearing on operating temperature once the engine is warmed up. I'm sure
> there's something else there at play that I don't know about. Could you
> explain this to me? Thank you.
>
> --
>
> I can hammer it back into shape later...
> :wq!

Shaggie

Mike Romain <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in
news:40917B1B.1DE010AA@sympatico.ca:

> Too much of a good thing isn't sometimes...
>
> The t-stat is a metered hole designed to match the needs of the
> engine. When you take it out, you make too big a hole so the fluid
> speeds up. This means it doesn't stay in the rad long enough to cool
> down.
>
> You can put a restricter in if you take the t-stat out.
>
> Some folks try a colder t-stat and extra fans to make them run cooler
> although I don't think it works well if at all.
>
> A colder street engine isn't any more efficient or anything. The best
> mileage is had with a warmed up engine.
>
> Mike

What is considered to be a good operating temperature for my engine?
Anyone? '76 304. Running at about 210 right now. That too high?
What's a good range? Thank you.

--

I can hammer it back into shape later...
:wq!

Shaggie

Mike Romain <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in
news:40917B1B.1DE010AA@sympatico.ca:

> Too much of a good thing isn't sometimes...
>
> The t-stat is a metered hole designed to match the needs of the
> engine. When you take it out, you make too big a hole so the fluid
> speeds up. This means it doesn't stay in the rad long enough to cool
> down.
>
> You can put a restricter in if you take the t-stat out.
>
> Some folks try a colder t-stat and extra fans to make them run cooler
> although I don't think it works well if at all.
>
> A colder street engine isn't any more efficient or anything. The best
> mileage is had with a warmed up engine.
>
> Mike

What is considered to be a good operating temperature for my engine?
Anyone? '76 304. Running at about 210 right now. That too high?
What's a good range? Thank you.

--

I can hammer it back into shape later...
:wq!

Shaggie

Mike Romain <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in
news:40917B1B.1DE010AA@sympatico.ca:

> Too much of a good thing isn't sometimes...
>
> The t-stat is a metered hole designed to match the needs of the
> engine. When you take it out, you make too big a hole so the fluid
> speeds up. This means it doesn't stay in the rad long enough to cool
> down.
>
> You can put a restricter in if you take the t-stat out.
>
> Some folks try a colder t-stat and extra fans to make them run cooler
> although I don't think it works well if at all.
>
> A colder street engine isn't any more efficient or anything. The best
> mileage is had with a warmed up engine.
>
> Mike

What is considered to be a good operating temperature for my engine?
Anyone? '76 304. Running at about 210 right now. That too high?
What's a good range? Thank you.

--

I can hammer it back into shape later...
:wq!

Shaggie

Mike Romain <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in
news:40917B1B.1DE010AA@sympatico.ca:

> Too much of a good thing isn't sometimes...
>
> The t-stat is a metered hole designed to match the needs of the
> engine. When you take it out, you make too big a hole so the fluid
> speeds up. This means it doesn't stay in the rad long enough to cool
> down.
>
> You can put a restricter in if you take the t-stat out.
>
> Some folks try a colder t-stat and extra fans to make them run cooler
> although I don't think it works well if at all.
>
> A colder street engine isn't any more efficient or anything. The best
> mileage is had with a warmed up engine.
>
> Mike

What is considered to be a good operating temperature for my engine?
Anyone? '76 304. Running at about 210 right now. That too high?
What's a good range? Thank you.

--

I can hammer it back into shape later...
:wq!

L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III

The thermostat when open still meters the flow with a specifically
sized orifice, to about a quarter of the size of the radiator hoses, to
give coolant going through the radiator enough time to cool. Hot Rodders
not running engines controlled by the SMOG *****, want the maximum
expansion of gases, and will use a metering plate with a 3/4" hole in
place of a thermostat. For this extra horse power, be warned that
running 165 degrees or lower will cause excessive cylinder taper wear.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
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Shaggie wrote:
>
> I've heard stories of how some people have tried removing their thermostats
> to make their engine run cooler and how that actually will make your engine
> run hotter. I don't understand how that can be if the thermostat has no
> bearing on operating temperature once the engine is warmed up. I'm sure
> there's something else there at play that I don't know about. Could you
> explain this to me? Thank you.
>
> --
>
> I can hammer it back into shape later...
> :wq!