Embarrassing newbie questions about xfer case shifting
10-15-2003, 06:07 PM
#41
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Re: Embarrassing newbie questions about xfer case shifting
Shift pattern on my Dana300 is 4WL-N-2WH-4WH in order from all the way
forward moving back. I'm pretty sure this is the standard for all
300's. I too have to occasionaly let the clutch out a bit to shift
b/t diffrent modes as well.
Mike
"JimG" <jimg@cj7.com> wrote in message news:<T5fjb.5369$VO3.3874@news01.roc.ny>...
> Hi Mike,
> Well OK, I guess I never tried it (nor owned an owners manual)... and we are
> talking about a Dana 20 not our 300's. But did I get the pattern correct?
> JimG
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:3F8D6BB8.66199C81@sympatico.ca...
> > You must have the only Jeep tranny I have ever heard of that isn't shift
> > on the fly' into 4 high.
> >
> > The owners manual for my CJ7 says I can shift at any legal speed into 4
> > high, and I do it all the time.
> >
> > Mike
> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> >
> > JimG wrote:
> > >
> > > With a CJ, be stopped to shift from 2W to 4WH or 4WL. The Dana 20 ain't
> no
> > > "shift on the fly". The pattern is four positions, straight in line...
> all
> > > the way forward is 4WH, then coming back, neutral, 2WH, and then 4WL (I
> > > believe that's correct if my memory serves me). The shift pattern is
> > > typically on the ****. Depress the clutch to shift, and you may have to
> > > bump it a bit (let clutch out briefly in forward/reverse) to get in/out
> of
> > > gear. Lock the hubs in at the trail head and shift to 4WD when needed
> will
> > > work fine.
> > > Good Luck!
> > >
> > > --
> > > JimG
> > > 80' CJ-7, 258 CID
> > > 35" BFG MT's on 15x10 Centerlines
> > > 4.56 D30-D44 SOA
> > > D300 w/4:1 & Currie twin sticks
> > > Warn 8000i w/dual batteries
> > > LockRight F&R
> > >
> > > "travis" <travist34removethis@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> > > news:049qovgcv5b55gfquej1gdo8g9q8c99i6f@4ax.com...
> > > > Hi all, I'm going to go check out a '78 CJ-7 with 304/3-speed today at
> > > > noon. Supposedly "everything works" and the drivetrain is 100% stock.
> > > > I think that means a spicer-20 xfer case (good thing from what I
> > > > read), dana20 rear(weakest link on this setup from what I read), and
> > > > dana30 front (not bad from what I've read). I've ridden in a few
> > > > Jeeps but I've never actually driven one so I have the ultimate newbie
> > > > question for you... I know how to drive a stick shift just fine,
> > > > but... (here comes the embarrassing part...I've never actually driven
> > > > a 4WD vehicle before so the xfer case shifting stuff is a myster to
> > > > me...) on a 4WD vehicle there's that extra stick for the xfer case
> > > > to choose between 2WD/4WD and high/low... On a Jeep, what is that
> > > > shift pattern like? Hopefully it's marked on the stick... Like
> > > > forward and to the left for 2WD, then straight back for 4WD(high), and
> > > > back and to the right for 4WD(low)? (Just as an example) Something
> > > > like that? Also, when using the xfer case shifter, I'd guess that I
> > > > would depress the clutch like I do to shift transmission gears? In a
> > > > normal offroad situation I think I'd approach the trail, get out and
> > > > engage the manual hubs (keeping the xfer case set for 2WD) and then
> > > > enter the trails and drive around like that and switch to 4WD using
> > > > the xfer case when needed. I mean, it wouldn't hurt to drive around
> > > > some with the hubs locked but the Jeep still in 2WD, would it? That
> > > > would just make it so that the front axle would be spinning since it
> > > > would be "locked" at the wheel hub as I moved but the front driveshaft
> > > > would still be stationary because it was decoupled from the xfer case,
> > > > right? I think I have that right, but wanted to be sure. The most
> > > > important thing I need to know for right now though, is how to shift
> > > > the xfer case since I'm gonna go test drive this Jeep today. Use the
> > > > clutch when shifting xfer case? (probably) And the shift pattern? I
> > > > have no idea what it is. Oh, and I'm also guessing that I wouldn't
> > > > shift the xfer case at all unless I'm at a full stop, not moving at
> > > > all? Thanks! (Hey, everybody had to learn this stuff at some
> > > > point... Maybe a couple of years from now I'll google search on this
> > > > post and have a good laugh at myself for having questions like these.
> > > > :-)
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > Travis
> > > > http://jeepadventures.dyndns.org/jeep.html
> > > > The meek shall inherit the earth. After I'm finished with it.
> > > > :wq!
forward moving back. I'm pretty sure this is the standard for all
300's. I too have to occasionaly let the clutch out a bit to shift
b/t diffrent modes as well.
Mike
"JimG" <jimg@cj7.com> wrote in message news:<T5fjb.5369$VO3.3874@news01.roc.ny>...
> Hi Mike,
> Well OK, I guess I never tried it (nor owned an owners manual)... and we are
> talking about a Dana 20 not our 300's. But did I get the pattern correct?
> JimG
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:3F8D6BB8.66199C81@sympatico.ca...
> > You must have the only Jeep tranny I have ever heard of that isn't shift
> > on the fly' into 4 high.
> >
> > The owners manual for my CJ7 says I can shift at any legal speed into 4
> > high, and I do it all the time.
> >
> > Mike
> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> >
> > JimG wrote:
> > >
> > > With a CJ, be stopped to shift from 2W to 4WH or 4WL. The Dana 20 ain't
> no
> > > "shift on the fly". The pattern is four positions, straight in line...
> all
> > > the way forward is 4WH, then coming back, neutral, 2WH, and then 4WL (I
> > > believe that's correct if my memory serves me). The shift pattern is
> > > typically on the ****. Depress the clutch to shift, and you may have to
> > > bump it a bit (let clutch out briefly in forward/reverse) to get in/out
> of
> > > gear. Lock the hubs in at the trail head and shift to 4WD when needed
> will
> > > work fine.
> > > Good Luck!
> > >
> > > --
> > > JimG
> > > 80' CJ-7, 258 CID
> > > 35" BFG MT's on 15x10 Centerlines
> > > 4.56 D30-D44 SOA
> > > D300 w/4:1 & Currie twin sticks
> > > Warn 8000i w/dual batteries
> > > LockRight F&R
> > >
> > > "travis" <travist34removethis@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> > > news:049qovgcv5b55gfquej1gdo8g9q8c99i6f@4ax.com...
> > > > Hi all, I'm going to go check out a '78 CJ-7 with 304/3-speed today at
> > > > noon. Supposedly "everything works" and the drivetrain is 100% stock.
> > > > I think that means a spicer-20 xfer case (good thing from what I
> > > > read), dana20 rear(weakest link on this setup from what I read), and
> > > > dana30 front (not bad from what I've read). I've ridden in a few
> > > > Jeeps but I've never actually driven one so I have the ultimate newbie
> > > > question for you... I know how to drive a stick shift just fine,
> > > > but... (here comes the embarrassing part...I've never actually driven
> > > > a 4WD vehicle before so the xfer case shifting stuff is a myster to
> > > > me...) on a 4WD vehicle there's that extra stick for the xfer case
> > > > to choose between 2WD/4WD and high/low... On a Jeep, what is that
> > > > shift pattern like? Hopefully it's marked on the stick... Like
> > > > forward and to the left for 2WD, then straight back for 4WD(high), and
> > > > back and to the right for 4WD(low)? (Just as an example) Something
> > > > like that? Also, when using the xfer case shifter, I'd guess that I
> > > > would depress the clutch like I do to shift transmission gears? In a
> > > > normal offroad situation I think I'd approach the trail, get out and
> > > > engage the manual hubs (keeping the xfer case set for 2WD) and then
> > > > enter the trails and drive around like that and switch to 4WD using
> > > > the xfer case when needed. I mean, it wouldn't hurt to drive around
> > > > some with the hubs locked but the Jeep still in 2WD, would it? That
> > > > would just make it so that the front axle would be spinning since it
> > > > would be "locked" at the wheel hub as I moved but the front driveshaft
> > > > would still be stationary because it was decoupled from the xfer case,
> > > > right? I think I have that right, but wanted to be sure. The most
> > > > important thing I need to know for right now though, is how to shift
> > > > the xfer case since I'm gonna go test drive this Jeep today. Use the
> > > > clutch when shifting xfer case? (probably) And the shift pattern? I
> > > > have no idea what it is. Oh, and I'm also guessing that I wouldn't
> > > > shift the xfer case at all unless I'm at a full stop, not moving at
> > > > all? Thanks! (Hey, everybody had to learn this stuff at some
> > > > point... Maybe a couple of years from now I'll google search on this
> > > > post and have a good laugh at myself for having questions like these.
> > > > :-)
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > Travis
> > > > http://jeepadventures.dyndns.org/jeep.html
> > > > The meek shall inherit the earth. After I'm finished with it.
> > > > :wq!
10-15-2003, 06:07 PM
#42
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Embarrassing newbie questions about xfer case shifting
Shift pattern on my Dana300 is 4WL-N-2WH-4WH in order from all the way
forward moving back. I'm pretty sure this is the standard for all
300's. I too have to occasionaly let the clutch out a bit to shift
b/t diffrent modes as well.
Mike
"JimG" <jimg@cj7.com> wrote in message news:<T5fjb.5369$VO3.3874@news01.roc.ny>...
> Hi Mike,
> Well OK, I guess I never tried it (nor owned an owners manual)... and we are
> talking about a Dana 20 not our 300's. But did I get the pattern correct?
> JimG
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:3F8D6BB8.66199C81@sympatico.ca...
> > You must have the only Jeep tranny I have ever heard of that isn't shift
> > on the fly' into 4 high.
> >
> > The owners manual for my CJ7 says I can shift at any legal speed into 4
> > high, and I do it all the time.
> >
> > Mike
> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> >
> > JimG wrote:
> > >
> > > With a CJ, be stopped to shift from 2W to 4WH or 4WL. The Dana 20 ain't
> no
> > > "shift on the fly". The pattern is four positions, straight in line...
> all
> > > the way forward is 4WH, then coming back, neutral, 2WH, and then 4WL (I
> > > believe that's correct if my memory serves me). The shift pattern is
> > > typically on the ****. Depress the clutch to shift, and you may have to
> > > bump it a bit (let clutch out briefly in forward/reverse) to get in/out
> of
> > > gear. Lock the hubs in at the trail head and shift to 4WD when needed
> will
> > > work fine.
> > > Good Luck!
> > >
> > > --
> > > JimG
> > > 80' CJ-7, 258 CID
> > > 35" BFG MT's on 15x10 Centerlines
> > > 4.56 D30-D44 SOA
> > > D300 w/4:1 & Currie twin sticks
> > > Warn 8000i w/dual batteries
> > > LockRight F&R
> > >
> > > "travis" <travist34removethis@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> > > news:049qovgcv5b55gfquej1gdo8g9q8c99i6f@4ax.com...
> > > > Hi all, I'm going to go check out a '78 CJ-7 with 304/3-speed today at
> > > > noon. Supposedly "everything works" and the drivetrain is 100% stock.
> > > > I think that means a spicer-20 xfer case (good thing from what I
> > > > read), dana20 rear(weakest link on this setup from what I read), and
> > > > dana30 front (not bad from what I've read). I've ridden in a few
> > > > Jeeps but I've never actually driven one so I have the ultimate newbie
> > > > question for you... I know how to drive a stick shift just fine,
> > > > but... (here comes the embarrassing part...I've never actually driven
> > > > a 4WD vehicle before so the xfer case shifting stuff is a myster to
> > > > me...) on a 4WD vehicle there's that extra stick for the xfer case
> > > > to choose between 2WD/4WD and high/low... On a Jeep, what is that
> > > > shift pattern like? Hopefully it's marked on the stick... Like
> > > > forward and to the left for 2WD, then straight back for 4WD(high), and
> > > > back and to the right for 4WD(low)? (Just as an example) Something
> > > > like that? Also, when using the xfer case shifter, I'd guess that I
> > > > would depress the clutch like I do to shift transmission gears? In a
> > > > normal offroad situation I think I'd approach the trail, get out and
> > > > engage the manual hubs (keeping the xfer case set for 2WD) and then
> > > > enter the trails and drive around like that and switch to 4WD using
> > > > the xfer case when needed. I mean, it wouldn't hurt to drive around
> > > > some with the hubs locked but the Jeep still in 2WD, would it? That
> > > > would just make it so that the front axle would be spinning since it
> > > > would be "locked" at the wheel hub as I moved but the front driveshaft
> > > > would still be stationary because it was decoupled from the xfer case,
> > > > right? I think I have that right, but wanted to be sure. The most
> > > > important thing I need to know for right now though, is how to shift
> > > > the xfer case since I'm gonna go test drive this Jeep today. Use the
> > > > clutch when shifting xfer case? (probably) And the shift pattern? I
> > > > have no idea what it is. Oh, and I'm also guessing that I wouldn't
> > > > shift the xfer case at all unless I'm at a full stop, not moving at
> > > > all? Thanks! (Hey, everybody had to learn this stuff at some
> > > > point... Maybe a couple of years from now I'll google search on this
> > > > post and have a good laugh at myself for having questions like these.
> > > > :-)
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > Travis
> > > > http://jeepadventures.dyndns.org/jeep.html
> > > > The meek shall inherit the earth. After I'm finished with it.
> > > > :wq!
forward moving back. I'm pretty sure this is the standard for all
300's. I too have to occasionaly let the clutch out a bit to shift
b/t diffrent modes as well.
Mike
"JimG" <jimg@cj7.com> wrote in message news:<T5fjb.5369$VO3.3874@news01.roc.ny>...
> Hi Mike,
> Well OK, I guess I never tried it (nor owned an owners manual)... and we are
> talking about a Dana 20 not our 300's. But did I get the pattern correct?
> JimG
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:3F8D6BB8.66199C81@sympatico.ca...
> > You must have the only Jeep tranny I have ever heard of that isn't shift
> > on the fly' into 4 high.
> >
> > The owners manual for my CJ7 says I can shift at any legal speed into 4
> > high, and I do it all the time.
> >
> > Mike
> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> >
> > JimG wrote:
> > >
> > > With a CJ, be stopped to shift from 2W to 4WH or 4WL. The Dana 20 ain't
> no
> > > "shift on the fly". The pattern is four positions, straight in line...
> all
> > > the way forward is 4WH, then coming back, neutral, 2WH, and then 4WL (I
> > > believe that's correct if my memory serves me). The shift pattern is
> > > typically on the ****. Depress the clutch to shift, and you may have to
> > > bump it a bit (let clutch out briefly in forward/reverse) to get in/out
> of
> > > gear. Lock the hubs in at the trail head and shift to 4WD when needed
> will
> > > work fine.
> > > Good Luck!
> > >
> > > --
> > > JimG
> > > 80' CJ-7, 258 CID
> > > 35" BFG MT's on 15x10 Centerlines
> > > 4.56 D30-D44 SOA
> > > D300 w/4:1 & Currie twin sticks
> > > Warn 8000i w/dual batteries
> > > LockRight F&R
> > >
> > > "travis" <travist34removethis@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> > > news:049qovgcv5b55gfquej1gdo8g9q8c99i6f@4ax.com...
> > > > Hi all, I'm going to go check out a '78 CJ-7 with 304/3-speed today at
> > > > noon. Supposedly "everything works" and the drivetrain is 100% stock.
> > > > I think that means a spicer-20 xfer case (good thing from what I
> > > > read), dana20 rear(weakest link on this setup from what I read), and
> > > > dana30 front (not bad from what I've read). I've ridden in a few
> > > > Jeeps but I've never actually driven one so I have the ultimate newbie
> > > > question for you... I know how to drive a stick shift just fine,
> > > > but... (here comes the embarrassing part...I've never actually driven
> > > > a 4WD vehicle before so the xfer case shifting stuff is a myster to
> > > > me...) on a 4WD vehicle there's that extra stick for the xfer case
> > > > to choose between 2WD/4WD and high/low... On a Jeep, what is that
> > > > shift pattern like? Hopefully it's marked on the stick... Like
> > > > forward and to the left for 2WD, then straight back for 4WD(high), and
> > > > back and to the right for 4WD(low)? (Just as an example) Something
> > > > like that? Also, when using the xfer case shifter, I'd guess that I
> > > > would depress the clutch like I do to shift transmission gears? In a
> > > > normal offroad situation I think I'd approach the trail, get out and
> > > > engage the manual hubs (keeping the xfer case set for 2WD) and then
> > > > enter the trails and drive around like that and switch to 4WD using
> > > > the xfer case when needed. I mean, it wouldn't hurt to drive around
> > > > some with the hubs locked but the Jeep still in 2WD, would it? That
> > > > would just make it so that the front axle would be spinning since it
> > > > would be "locked" at the wheel hub as I moved but the front driveshaft
> > > > would still be stationary because it was decoupled from the xfer case,
> > > > right? I think I have that right, but wanted to be sure. The most
> > > > important thing I need to know for right now though, is how to shift
> > > > the xfer case since I'm gonna go test drive this Jeep today. Use the
> > > > clutch when shifting xfer case? (probably) And the shift pattern? I
> > > > have no idea what it is. Oh, and I'm also guessing that I wouldn't
> > > > shift the xfer case at all unless I'm at a full stop, not moving at
> > > > all? Thanks! (Hey, everybody had to learn this stuff at some
> > > > point... Maybe a couple of years from now I'll google search on this
> > > > post and have a good laugh at myself for having questions like these.
> > > > :-)
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > Travis
> > > > http://jeepadventures.dyndns.org/jeep.html
> > > > The meek shall inherit the earth. After I'm finished with it.
> > > > :wq!
10-15-2003, 06:07 PM
#43
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Embarrassing newbie questions about xfer case shifting
Shift pattern on my Dana300 is 4WL-N-2WH-4WH in order from all the way
forward moving back. I'm pretty sure this is the standard for all
300's. I too have to occasionaly let the clutch out a bit to shift
b/t diffrent modes as well.
Mike
"JimG" <jimg@cj7.com> wrote in message news:<T5fjb.5369$VO3.3874@news01.roc.ny>...
> Hi Mike,
> Well OK, I guess I never tried it (nor owned an owners manual)... and we are
> talking about a Dana 20 not our 300's. But did I get the pattern correct?
> JimG
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:3F8D6BB8.66199C81@sympatico.ca...
> > You must have the only Jeep tranny I have ever heard of that isn't shift
> > on the fly' into 4 high.
> >
> > The owners manual for my CJ7 says I can shift at any legal speed into 4
> > high, and I do it all the time.
> >
> > Mike
> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> >
> > JimG wrote:
> > >
> > > With a CJ, be stopped to shift from 2W to 4WH or 4WL. The Dana 20 ain't
> no
> > > "shift on the fly". The pattern is four positions, straight in line...
> all
> > > the way forward is 4WH, then coming back, neutral, 2WH, and then 4WL (I
> > > believe that's correct if my memory serves me). The shift pattern is
> > > typically on the ****. Depress the clutch to shift, and you may have to
> > > bump it a bit (let clutch out briefly in forward/reverse) to get in/out
> of
> > > gear. Lock the hubs in at the trail head and shift to 4WD when needed
> will
> > > work fine.
> > > Good Luck!
> > >
> > > --
> > > JimG
> > > 80' CJ-7, 258 CID
> > > 35" BFG MT's on 15x10 Centerlines
> > > 4.56 D30-D44 SOA
> > > D300 w/4:1 & Currie twin sticks
> > > Warn 8000i w/dual batteries
> > > LockRight F&R
> > >
> > > "travis" <travist34removethis@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> > > news:049qovgcv5b55gfquej1gdo8g9q8c99i6f@4ax.com...
> > > > Hi all, I'm going to go check out a '78 CJ-7 with 304/3-speed today at
> > > > noon. Supposedly "everything works" and the drivetrain is 100% stock.
> > > > I think that means a spicer-20 xfer case (good thing from what I
> > > > read), dana20 rear(weakest link on this setup from what I read), and
> > > > dana30 front (not bad from what I've read). I've ridden in a few
> > > > Jeeps but I've never actually driven one so I have the ultimate newbie
> > > > question for you... I know how to drive a stick shift just fine,
> > > > but... (here comes the embarrassing part...I've never actually driven
> > > > a 4WD vehicle before so the xfer case shifting stuff is a myster to
> > > > me...) on a 4WD vehicle there's that extra stick for the xfer case
> > > > to choose between 2WD/4WD and high/low... On a Jeep, what is that
> > > > shift pattern like? Hopefully it's marked on the stick... Like
> > > > forward and to the left for 2WD, then straight back for 4WD(high), and
> > > > back and to the right for 4WD(low)? (Just as an example) Something
> > > > like that? Also, when using the xfer case shifter, I'd guess that I
> > > > would depress the clutch like I do to shift transmission gears? In a
> > > > normal offroad situation I think I'd approach the trail, get out and
> > > > engage the manual hubs (keeping the xfer case set for 2WD) and then
> > > > enter the trails and drive around like that and switch to 4WD using
> > > > the xfer case when needed. I mean, it wouldn't hurt to drive around
> > > > some with the hubs locked but the Jeep still in 2WD, would it? That
> > > > would just make it so that the front axle would be spinning since it
> > > > would be "locked" at the wheel hub as I moved but the front driveshaft
> > > > would still be stationary because it was decoupled from the xfer case,
> > > > right? I think I have that right, but wanted to be sure. The most
> > > > important thing I need to know for right now though, is how to shift
> > > > the xfer case since I'm gonna go test drive this Jeep today. Use the
> > > > clutch when shifting xfer case? (probably) And the shift pattern? I
> > > > have no idea what it is. Oh, and I'm also guessing that I wouldn't
> > > > shift the xfer case at all unless I'm at a full stop, not moving at
> > > > all? Thanks! (Hey, everybody had to learn this stuff at some
> > > > point... Maybe a couple of years from now I'll google search on this
> > > > post and have a good laugh at myself for having questions like these.
> > > > :-)
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > Travis
> > > > http://jeepadventures.dyndns.org/jeep.html
> > > > The meek shall inherit the earth. After I'm finished with it.
> > > > :wq!
forward moving back. I'm pretty sure this is the standard for all
300's. I too have to occasionaly let the clutch out a bit to shift
b/t diffrent modes as well.
Mike
"JimG" <jimg@cj7.com> wrote in message news:<T5fjb.5369$VO3.3874@news01.roc.ny>...
> Hi Mike,
> Well OK, I guess I never tried it (nor owned an owners manual)... and we are
> talking about a Dana 20 not our 300's. But did I get the pattern correct?
> JimG
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:3F8D6BB8.66199C81@sympatico.ca...
> > You must have the only Jeep tranny I have ever heard of that isn't shift
> > on the fly' into 4 high.
> >
> > The owners manual for my CJ7 says I can shift at any legal speed into 4
> > high, and I do it all the time.
> >
> > Mike
> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> >
> > JimG wrote:
> > >
> > > With a CJ, be stopped to shift from 2W to 4WH or 4WL. The Dana 20 ain't
> no
> > > "shift on the fly". The pattern is four positions, straight in line...
> all
> > > the way forward is 4WH, then coming back, neutral, 2WH, and then 4WL (I
> > > believe that's correct if my memory serves me). The shift pattern is
> > > typically on the ****. Depress the clutch to shift, and you may have to
> > > bump it a bit (let clutch out briefly in forward/reverse) to get in/out
> of
> > > gear. Lock the hubs in at the trail head and shift to 4WD when needed
> will
> > > work fine.
> > > Good Luck!
> > >
> > > --
> > > JimG
> > > 80' CJ-7, 258 CID
> > > 35" BFG MT's on 15x10 Centerlines
> > > 4.56 D30-D44 SOA
> > > D300 w/4:1 & Currie twin sticks
> > > Warn 8000i w/dual batteries
> > > LockRight F&R
> > >
> > > "travis" <travist34removethis@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> > > news:049qovgcv5b55gfquej1gdo8g9q8c99i6f@4ax.com...
> > > > Hi all, I'm going to go check out a '78 CJ-7 with 304/3-speed today at
> > > > noon. Supposedly "everything works" and the drivetrain is 100% stock.
> > > > I think that means a spicer-20 xfer case (good thing from what I
> > > > read), dana20 rear(weakest link on this setup from what I read), and
> > > > dana30 front (not bad from what I've read). I've ridden in a few
> > > > Jeeps but I've never actually driven one so I have the ultimate newbie
> > > > question for you... I know how to drive a stick shift just fine,
> > > > but... (here comes the embarrassing part...I've never actually driven
> > > > a 4WD vehicle before so the xfer case shifting stuff is a myster to
> > > > me...) on a 4WD vehicle there's that extra stick for the xfer case
> > > > to choose between 2WD/4WD and high/low... On a Jeep, what is that
> > > > shift pattern like? Hopefully it's marked on the stick... Like
> > > > forward and to the left for 2WD, then straight back for 4WD(high), and
> > > > back and to the right for 4WD(low)? (Just as an example) Something
> > > > like that? Also, when using the xfer case shifter, I'd guess that I
> > > > would depress the clutch like I do to shift transmission gears? In a
> > > > normal offroad situation I think I'd approach the trail, get out and
> > > > engage the manual hubs (keeping the xfer case set for 2WD) and then
> > > > enter the trails and drive around like that and switch to 4WD using
> > > > the xfer case when needed. I mean, it wouldn't hurt to drive around
> > > > some with the hubs locked but the Jeep still in 2WD, would it? That
> > > > would just make it so that the front axle would be spinning since it
> > > > would be "locked" at the wheel hub as I moved but the front driveshaft
> > > > would still be stationary because it was decoupled from the xfer case,
> > > > right? I think I have that right, but wanted to be sure. The most
> > > > important thing I need to know for right now though, is how to shift
> > > > the xfer case since I'm gonna go test drive this Jeep today. Use the
> > > > clutch when shifting xfer case? (probably) And the shift pattern? I
> > > > have no idea what it is. Oh, and I'm also guessing that I wouldn't
> > > > shift the xfer case at all unless I'm at a full stop, not moving at
> > > > all? Thanks! (Hey, everybody had to learn this stuff at some
> > > > point... Maybe a couple of years from now I'll google search on this
> > > > post and have a good laugh at myself for having questions like these.
> > > > :-)
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > Travis
> > > > http://jeepadventures.dyndns.org/jeep.html
> > > > The meek shall inherit the earth. After I'm finished with it.
> > > > :wq!
10-15-2003, 06:19 PM
#44
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Embarrassing newbie questions about xfer case shifting
Only for 4 low is 2-3 mph needed.....
I shift my Dana 300 in and out of 4 high at 50 to 60+ mph all the time.
I just treat it like any other shift. I see a snow patch coming, I hit
4 high, get pavement back and go to 2 high. (I lock my hubs at the
house if it is snowing or I expect blowing snow.)
I do the same in my 88 Cherokee.
Mike
JimG wrote:
>
> Hi Mike,
>
> I did get the shift pattern wrong for a Dana 300 anyway (not sure about the
> 20). It's 4L all the forward, then coming back N, 2H, then 4H. On a 208
> (in Cherokee and a truck, manual transmission) it's opposite... 2H, 4H, N,
> 4L. I get confused if not sitting in front of it... mine has twin sticks.
>
> Turns out I did find the owners manual for my 80 CJ-7 and it says to shift
> the transfer case at 2-3 mph. I am sure the Dana 20 is the same.
>
> JimG
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:3F8D6BB8.66199C81@sympatico.ca...
> > You must have the only Jeep tranny I have ever heard of that isn't shift
> > on the fly' into 4 high.
> >
> > The owners manual for my CJ7 says I can shift at any legal speed into 4
> > high, and I do it all the time.
> >
> > Mike
> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> >
> > JimG wrote:
> > >
> > > With a CJ, be stopped to shift from 2W to 4WH or 4WL. The Dana 20 ain't
> no
> > > "shift on the fly". The pattern is four positions, straight in line...
> all
> > > the way forward is 4WH, then coming back, neutral, 2WH, and then 4WL (I
> > > believe that's correct if my memory serves me). The shift pattern is
> > > typically on the ****. Depress the clutch to shift, and you may have to
> > > bump it a bit (let clutch out briefly in forward/reverse) to get in/out
> of
> > > gear. Lock the hubs in at the trail head and shift to 4WD when needed
> will
> > > work fine.
> > > Good Luck!
> > >
> > > --
> > > JimG
> > > 80' CJ-7, 258 CID
> > > 35" BFG MT's on 15x10 Centerlines
> > > 4.56 D30-D44 SOA
> > > D300 w/4:1 & Currie twin sticks
> > > Warn 8000i w/dual batteries
> > > LockRight F&R
> > >
> > > "travis" <travist34removethis@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> > > news:049qovgcv5b55gfquej1gdo8g9q8c99i6f@4ax.com...
> > > > Hi all, I'm going to go check out a '78 CJ-7 with 304/3-speed today at
> > > > noon. Supposedly "everything works" and the drivetrain is 100% stock.
> > > > I think that means a spicer-20 xfer case (good thing from what I
> > > > read), dana20 rear(weakest link on this setup from what I read), and
> > > > dana30 front (not bad from what I've read). I've ridden in a few
> > > > Jeeps but I've never actually driven one so I have the ultimate newbie
> > > > question for you... I know how to drive a stick shift just fine,
> > > > but... (here comes the embarrassing part...I've never actually driven
> > > > a 4WD vehicle before so the xfer case shifting stuff is a myster to
> > > > me...) on a 4WD vehicle there's that extra stick for the xfer case
> > > > to choose between 2WD/4WD and high/low... On a Jeep, what is that
> > > > shift pattern like? Hopefully it's marked on the stick... Like
> > > > forward and to the left for 2WD, then straight back for 4WD(high), and
> > > > back and to the right for 4WD(low)? (Just as an example) Something
> > > > like that? Also, when using the xfer case shifter, I'd guess that I
> > > > would depress the clutch like I do to shift transmission gears? In a
> > > > normal offroad situation I think I'd approach the trail, get out and
> > > > engage the manual hubs (keeping the xfer case set for 2WD) and then
> > > > enter the trails and drive around like that and switch to 4WD using
> > > > the xfer case when needed. I mean, it wouldn't hurt to drive around
> > > > some with the hubs locked but the Jeep still in 2WD, would it? That
> > > > would just make it so that the front axle would be spinning since it
> > > > would be "locked" at the wheel hub as I moved but the front driveshaft
> > > > would still be stationary because it was decoupled from the xfer case,
> > > > right? I think I have that right, but wanted to be sure. The most
> > > > important thing I need to know for right now though, is how to shift
> > > > the xfer case since I'm gonna go test drive this Jeep today. Use the
> > > > clutch when shifting xfer case? (probably) And the shift pattern? I
> > > > have no idea what it is. Oh, and I'm also guessing that I wouldn't
> > > > shift the xfer case at all unless I'm at a full stop, not moving at
> > > > all? Thanks! (Hey, everybody had to learn this stuff at some
> > > > point... Maybe a couple of years from now I'll google search on this
> > > > post and have a good laugh at myself for having questions like these.
> > > > :-)
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > Travis
> > > > http://jeepadventures.dyndns.org/jeep.html
> > > > The meek shall inherit the earth. After I'm finished with it.
> > > > :wq!
I shift my Dana 300 in and out of 4 high at 50 to 60+ mph all the time.
I just treat it like any other shift. I see a snow patch coming, I hit
4 high, get pavement back and go to 2 high. (I lock my hubs at the
house if it is snowing or I expect blowing snow.)
I do the same in my 88 Cherokee.
Mike
JimG wrote:
>
> Hi Mike,
>
> I did get the shift pattern wrong for a Dana 300 anyway (not sure about the
> 20). It's 4L all the forward, then coming back N, 2H, then 4H. On a 208
> (in Cherokee and a truck, manual transmission) it's opposite... 2H, 4H, N,
> 4L. I get confused if not sitting in front of it... mine has twin sticks.
>
> Turns out I did find the owners manual for my 80 CJ-7 and it says to shift
> the transfer case at 2-3 mph. I am sure the Dana 20 is the same.
>
> JimG
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:3F8D6BB8.66199C81@sympatico.ca...
> > You must have the only Jeep tranny I have ever heard of that isn't shift
> > on the fly' into 4 high.
> >
> > The owners manual for my CJ7 says I can shift at any legal speed into 4
> > high, and I do it all the time.
> >
> > Mike
> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> >
> > JimG wrote:
> > >
> > > With a CJ, be stopped to shift from 2W to 4WH or 4WL. The Dana 20 ain't
> no
> > > "shift on the fly". The pattern is four positions, straight in line...
> all
> > > the way forward is 4WH, then coming back, neutral, 2WH, and then 4WL (I
> > > believe that's correct if my memory serves me). The shift pattern is
> > > typically on the ****. Depress the clutch to shift, and you may have to
> > > bump it a bit (let clutch out briefly in forward/reverse) to get in/out
> of
> > > gear. Lock the hubs in at the trail head and shift to 4WD when needed
> will
> > > work fine.
> > > Good Luck!
> > >
> > > --
> > > JimG
> > > 80' CJ-7, 258 CID
> > > 35" BFG MT's on 15x10 Centerlines
> > > 4.56 D30-D44 SOA
> > > D300 w/4:1 & Currie twin sticks
> > > Warn 8000i w/dual batteries
> > > LockRight F&R
> > >
> > > "travis" <travist34removethis@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> > > news:049qovgcv5b55gfquej1gdo8g9q8c99i6f@4ax.com...
> > > > Hi all, I'm going to go check out a '78 CJ-7 with 304/3-speed today at
> > > > noon. Supposedly "everything works" and the drivetrain is 100% stock.
> > > > I think that means a spicer-20 xfer case (good thing from what I
> > > > read), dana20 rear(weakest link on this setup from what I read), and
> > > > dana30 front (not bad from what I've read). I've ridden in a few
> > > > Jeeps but I've never actually driven one so I have the ultimate newbie
> > > > question for you... I know how to drive a stick shift just fine,
> > > > but... (here comes the embarrassing part...I've never actually driven
> > > > a 4WD vehicle before so the xfer case shifting stuff is a myster to
> > > > me...) on a 4WD vehicle there's that extra stick for the xfer case
> > > > to choose between 2WD/4WD and high/low... On a Jeep, what is that
> > > > shift pattern like? Hopefully it's marked on the stick... Like
> > > > forward and to the left for 2WD, then straight back for 4WD(high), and
> > > > back and to the right for 4WD(low)? (Just as an example) Something
> > > > like that? Also, when using the xfer case shifter, I'd guess that I
> > > > would depress the clutch like I do to shift transmission gears? In a
> > > > normal offroad situation I think I'd approach the trail, get out and
> > > > engage the manual hubs (keeping the xfer case set for 2WD) and then
> > > > enter the trails and drive around like that and switch to 4WD using
> > > > the xfer case when needed. I mean, it wouldn't hurt to drive around
> > > > some with the hubs locked but the Jeep still in 2WD, would it? That
> > > > would just make it so that the front axle would be spinning since it
> > > > would be "locked" at the wheel hub as I moved but the front driveshaft
> > > > would still be stationary because it was decoupled from the xfer case,
> > > > right? I think I have that right, but wanted to be sure. The most
> > > > important thing I need to know for right now though, is how to shift
> > > > the xfer case since I'm gonna go test drive this Jeep today. Use the
> > > > clutch when shifting xfer case? (probably) And the shift pattern? I
> > > > have no idea what it is. Oh, and I'm also guessing that I wouldn't
> > > > shift the xfer case at all unless I'm at a full stop, not moving at
> > > > all? Thanks! (Hey, everybody had to learn this stuff at some
> > > > point... Maybe a couple of years from now I'll google search on this
> > > > post and have a good laugh at myself for having questions like these.
> > > > :-)
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > Travis
> > > > http://jeepadventures.dyndns.org/jeep.html
> > > > The meek shall inherit the earth. After I'm finished with it.
> > > > :wq!
10-15-2003, 06:19 PM
#45
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Embarrassing newbie questions about xfer case shifting
Only for 4 low is 2-3 mph needed.....
I shift my Dana 300 in and out of 4 high at 50 to 60+ mph all the time.
I just treat it like any other shift. I see a snow patch coming, I hit
4 high, get pavement back and go to 2 high. (I lock my hubs at the
house if it is snowing or I expect blowing snow.)
I do the same in my 88 Cherokee.
Mike
JimG wrote:
>
> Hi Mike,
>
> I did get the shift pattern wrong for a Dana 300 anyway (not sure about the
> 20). It's 4L all the forward, then coming back N, 2H, then 4H. On a 208
> (in Cherokee and a truck, manual transmission) it's opposite... 2H, 4H, N,
> 4L. I get confused if not sitting in front of it... mine has twin sticks.
>
> Turns out I did find the owners manual for my 80 CJ-7 and it says to shift
> the transfer case at 2-3 mph. I am sure the Dana 20 is the same.
>
> JimG
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:3F8D6BB8.66199C81@sympatico.ca...
> > You must have the only Jeep tranny I have ever heard of that isn't shift
> > on the fly' into 4 high.
> >
> > The owners manual for my CJ7 says I can shift at any legal speed into 4
> > high, and I do it all the time.
> >
> > Mike
> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> >
> > JimG wrote:
> > >
> > > With a CJ, be stopped to shift from 2W to 4WH or 4WL. The Dana 20 ain't
> no
> > > "shift on the fly". The pattern is four positions, straight in line...
> all
> > > the way forward is 4WH, then coming back, neutral, 2WH, and then 4WL (I
> > > believe that's correct if my memory serves me). The shift pattern is
> > > typically on the ****. Depress the clutch to shift, and you may have to
> > > bump it a bit (let clutch out briefly in forward/reverse) to get in/out
> of
> > > gear. Lock the hubs in at the trail head and shift to 4WD when needed
> will
> > > work fine.
> > > Good Luck!
> > >
> > > --
> > > JimG
> > > 80' CJ-7, 258 CID
> > > 35" BFG MT's on 15x10 Centerlines
> > > 4.56 D30-D44 SOA
> > > D300 w/4:1 & Currie twin sticks
> > > Warn 8000i w/dual batteries
> > > LockRight F&R
> > >
> > > "travis" <travist34removethis@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> > > news:049qovgcv5b55gfquej1gdo8g9q8c99i6f@4ax.com...
> > > > Hi all, I'm going to go check out a '78 CJ-7 with 304/3-speed today at
> > > > noon. Supposedly "everything works" and the drivetrain is 100% stock.
> > > > I think that means a spicer-20 xfer case (good thing from what I
> > > > read), dana20 rear(weakest link on this setup from what I read), and
> > > > dana30 front (not bad from what I've read). I've ridden in a few
> > > > Jeeps but I've never actually driven one so I have the ultimate newbie
> > > > question for you... I know how to drive a stick shift just fine,
> > > > but... (here comes the embarrassing part...I've never actually driven
> > > > a 4WD vehicle before so the xfer case shifting stuff is a myster to
> > > > me...) on a 4WD vehicle there's that extra stick for the xfer case
> > > > to choose between 2WD/4WD and high/low... On a Jeep, what is that
> > > > shift pattern like? Hopefully it's marked on the stick... Like
> > > > forward and to the left for 2WD, then straight back for 4WD(high), and
> > > > back and to the right for 4WD(low)? (Just as an example) Something
> > > > like that? Also, when using the xfer case shifter, I'd guess that I
> > > > would depress the clutch like I do to shift transmission gears? In a
> > > > normal offroad situation I think I'd approach the trail, get out and
> > > > engage the manual hubs (keeping the xfer case set for 2WD) and then
> > > > enter the trails and drive around like that and switch to 4WD using
> > > > the xfer case when needed. I mean, it wouldn't hurt to drive around
> > > > some with the hubs locked but the Jeep still in 2WD, would it? That
> > > > would just make it so that the front axle would be spinning since it
> > > > would be "locked" at the wheel hub as I moved but the front driveshaft
> > > > would still be stationary because it was decoupled from the xfer case,
> > > > right? I think I have that right, but wanted to be sure. The most
> > > > important thing I need to know for right now though, is how to shift
> > > > the xfer case since I'm gonna go test drive this Jeep today. Use the
> > > > clutch when shifting xfer case? (probably) And the shift pattern? I
> > > > have no idea what it is. Oh, and I'm also guessing that I wouldn't
> > > > shift the xfer case at all unless I'm at a full stop, not moving at
> > > > all? Thanks! (Hey, everybody had to learn this stuff at some
> > > > point... Maybe a couple of years from now I'll google search on this
> > > > post and have a good laugh at myself for having questions like these.
> > > > :-)
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > Travis
> > > > http://jeepadventures.dyndns.org/jeep.html
> > > > The meek shall inherit the earth. After I'm finished with it.
> > > > :wq!
I shift my Dana 300 in and out of 4 high at 50 to 60+ mph all the time.
I just treat it like any other shift. I see a snow patch coming, I hit
4 high, get pavement back and go to 2 high. (I lock my hubs at the
house if it is snowing or I expect blowing snow.)
I do the same in my 88 Cherokee.
Mike
JimG wrote:
>
> Hi Mike,
>
> I did get the shift pattern wrong for a Dana 300 anyway (not sure about the
> 20). It's 4L all the forward, then coming back N, 2H, then 4H. On a 208
> (in Cherokee and a truck, manual transmission) it's opposite... 2H, 4H, N,
> 4L. I get confused if not sitting in front of it... mine has twin sticks.
>
> Turns out I did find the owners manual for my 80 CJ-7 and it says to shift
> the transfer case at 2-3 mph. I am sure the Dana 20 is the same.
>
> JimG
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:3F8D6BB8.66199C81@sympatico.ca...
> > You must have the only Jeep tranny I have ever heard of that isn't shift
> > on the fly' into 4 high.
> >
> > The owners manual for my CJ7 says I can shift at any legal speed into 4
> > high, and I do it all the time.
> >
> > Mike
> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> >
> > JimG wrote:
> > >
> > > With a CJ, be stopped to shift from 2W to 4WH or 4WL. The Dana 20 ain't
> no
> > > "shift on the fly". The pattern is four positions, straight in line...
> all
> > > the way forward is 4WH, then coming back, neutral, 2WH, and then 4WL (I
> > > believe that's correct if my memory serves me). The shift pattern is
> > > typically on the ****. Depress the clutch to shift, and you may have to
> > > bump it a bit (let clutch out briefly in forward/reverse) to get in/out
> of
> > > gear. Lock the hubs in at the trail head and shift to 4WD when needed
> will
> > > work fine.
> > > Good Luck!
> > >
> > > --
> > > JimG
> > > 80' CJ-7, 258 CID
> > > 35" BFG MT's on 15x10 Centerlines
> > > 4.56 D30-D44 SOA
> > > D300 w/4:1 & Currie twin sticks
> > > Warn 8000i w/dual batteries
> > > LockRight F&R
> > >
> > > "travis" <travist34removethis@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> > > news:049qovgcv5b55gfquej1gdo8g9q8c99i6f@4ax.com...
> > > > Hi all, I'm going to go check out a '78 CJ-7 with 304/3-speed today at
> > > > noon. Supposedly "everything works" and the drivetrain is 100% stock.
> > > > I think that means a spicer-20 xfer case (good thing from what I
> > > > read), dana20 rear(weakest link on this setup from what I read), and
> > > > dana30 front (not bad from what I've read). I've ridden in a few
> > > > Jeeps but I've never actually driven one so I have the ultimate newbie
> > > > question for you... I know how to drive a stick shift just fine,
> > > > but... (here comes the embarrassing part...I've never actually driven
> > > > a 4WD vehicle before so the xfer case shifting stuff is a myster to
> > > > me...) on a 4WD vehicle there's that extra stick for the xfer case
> > > > to choose between 2WD/4WD and high/low... On a Jeep, what is that
> > > > shift pattern like? Hopefully it's marked on the stick... Like
> > > > forward and to the left for 2WD, then straight back for 4WD(high), and
> > > > back and to the right for 4WD(low)? (Just as an example) Something
> > > > like that? Also, when using the xfer case shifter, I'd guess that I
> > > > would depress the clutch like I do to shift transmission gears? In a
> > > > normal offroad situation I think I'd approach the trail, get out and
> > > > engage the manual hubs (keeping the xfer case set for 2WD) and then
> > > > enter the trails and drive around like that and switch to 4WD using
> > > > the xfer case when needed. I mean, it wouldn't hurt to drive around
> > > > some with the hubs locked but the Jeep still in 2WD, would it? That
> > > > would just make it so that the front axle would be spinning since it
> > > > would be "locked" at the wheel hub as I moved but the front driveshaft
> > > > would still be stationary because it was decoupled from the xfer case,
> > > > right? I think I have that right, but wanted to be sure. The most
> > > > important thing I need to know for right now though, is how to shift
> > > > the xfer case since I'm gonna go test drive this Jeep today. Use the
> > > > clutch when shifting xfer case? (probably) And the shift pattern? I
> > > > have no idea what it is. Oh, and I'm also guessing that I wouldn't
> > > > shift the xfer case at all unless I'm at a full stop, not moving at
> > > > all? Thanks! (Hey, everybody had to learn this stuff at some
> > > > point... Maybe a couple of years from now I'll google search on this
> > > > post and have a good laugh at myself for having questions like these.
> > > > :-)
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > Travis
> > > > http://jeepadventures.dyndns.org/jeep.html
> > > > The meek shall inherit the earth. After I'm finished with it.
> > > > :wq!
10-15-2003, 06:19 PM
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Re: Embarrassing newbie questions about xfer case shifting
Only for 4 low is 2-3 mph needed.....
I shift my Dana 300 in and out of 4 high at 50 to 60+ mph all the time.
I just treat it like any other shift. I see a snow patch coming, I hit
4 high, get pavement back and go to 2 high. (I lock my hubs at the
house if it is snowing or I expect blowing snow.)
I do the same in my 88 Cherokee.
Mike
JimG wrote:
>
> Hi Mike,
>
> I did get the shift pattern wrong for a Dana 300 anyway (not sure about the
> 20). It's 4L all the forward, then coming back N, 2H, then 4H. On a 208
> (in Cherokee and a truck, manual transmission) it's opposite... 2H, 4H, N,
> 4L. I get confused if not sitting in front of it... mine has twin sticks.
>
> Turns out I did find the owners manual for my 80 CJ-7 and it says to shift
> the transfer case at 2-3 mph. I am sure the Dana 20 is the same.
>
> JimG
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:3F8D6BB8.66199C81@sympatico.ca...
> > You must have the only Jeep tranny I have ever heard of that isn't shift
> > on the fly' into 4 high.
> >
> > The owners manual for my CJ7 says I can shift at any legal speed into 4
> > high, and I do it all the time.
> >
> > Mike
> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> >
> > JimG wrote:
> > >
> > > With a CJ, be stopped to shift from 2W to 4WH or 4WL. The Dana 20 ain't
> no
> > > "shift on the fly". The pattern is four positions, straight in line...
> all
> > > the way forward is 4WH, then coming back, neutral, 2WH, and then 4WL (I
> > > believe that's correct if my memory serves me). The shift pattern is
> > > typically on the ****. Depress the clutch to shift, and you may have to
> > > bump it a bit (let clutch out briefly in forward/reverse) to get in/out
> of
> > > gear. Lock the hubs in at the trail head and shift to 4WD when needed
> will
> > > work fine.
> > > Good Luck!
> > >
> > > --
> > > JimG
> > > 80' CJ-7, 258 CID
> > > 35" BFG MT's on 15x10 Centerlines
> > > 4.56 D30-D44 SOA
> > > D300 w/4:1 & Currie twin sticks
> > > Warn 8000i w/dual batteries
> > > LockRight F&R
> > >
> > > "travis" <travist34removethis@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> > > news:049qovgcv5b55gfquej1gdo8g9q8c99i6f@4ax.com...
> > > > Hi all, I'm going to go check out a '78 CJ-7 with 304/3-speed today at
> > > > noon. Supposedly "everything works" and the drivetrain is 100% stock.
> > > > I think that means a spicer-20 xfer case (good thing from what I
> > > > read), dana20 rear(weakest link on this setup from what I read), and
> > > > dana30 front (not bad from what I've read). I've ridden in a few
> > > > Jeeps but I've never actually driven one so I have the ultimate newbie
> > > > question for you... I know how to drive a stick shift just fine,
> > > > but... (here comes the embarrassing part...I've never actually driven
> > > > a 4WD vehicle before so the xfer case shifting stuff is a myster to
> > > > me...) on a 4WD vehicle there's that extra stick for the xfer case
> > > > to choose between 2WD/4WD and high/low... On a Jeep, what is that
> > > > shift pattern like? Hopefully it's marked on the stick... Like
> > > > forward and to the left for 2WD, then straight back for 4WD(high), and
> > > > back and to the right for 4WD(low)? (Just as an example) Something
> > > > like that? Also, when using the xfer case shifter, I'd guess that I
> > > > would depress the clutch like I do to shift transmission gears? In a
> > > > normal offroad situation I think I'd approach the trail, get out and
> > > > engage the manual hubs (keeping the xfer case set for 2WD) and then
> > > > enter the trails and drive around like that and switch to 4WD using
> > > > the xfer case when needed. I mean, it wouldn't hurt to drive around
> > > > some with the hubs locked but the Jeep still in 2WD, would it? That
> > > > would just make it so that the front axle would be spinning since it
> > > > would be "locked" at the wheel hub as I moved but the front driveshaft
> > > > would still be stationary because it was decoupled from the xfer case,
> > > > right? I think I have that right, but wanted to be sure. The most
> > > > important thing I need to know for right now though, is how to shift
> > > > the xfer case since I'm gonna go test drive this Jeep today. Use the
> > > > clutch when shifting xfer case? (probably) And the shift pattern? I
> > > > have no idea what it is. Oh, and I'm also guessing that I wouldn't
> > > > shift the xfer case at all unless I'm at a full stop, not moving at
> > > > all? Thanks! (Hey, everybody had to learn this stuff at some
> > > > point... Maybe a couple of years from now I'll google search on this
> > > > post and have a good laugh at myself for having questions like these.
> > > > :-)
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > Travis
> > > > http://jeepadventures.dyndns.org/jeep.html
> > > > The meek shall inherit the earth. After I'm finished with it.
> > > > :wq!
I shift my Dana 300 in and out of 4 high at 50 to 60+ mph all the time.
I just treat it like any other shift. I see a snow patch coming, I hit
4 high, get pavement back and go to 2 high. (I lock my hubs at the
house if it is snowing or I expect blowing snow.)
I do the same in my 88 Cherokee.
Mike
JimG wrote:
>
> Hi Mike,
>
> I did get the shift pattern wrong for a Dana 300 anyway (not sure about the
> 20). It's 4L all the forward, then coming back N, 2H, then 4H. On a 208
> (in Cherokee and a truck, manual transmission) it's opposite... 2H, 4H, N,
> 4L. I get confused if not sitting in front of it... mine has twin sticks.
>
> Turns out I did find the owners manual for my 80 CJ-7 and it says to shift
> the transfer case at 2-3 mph. I am sure the Dana 20 is the same.
>
> JimG
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:3F8D6BB8.66199C81@sympatico.ca...
> > You must have the only Jeep tranny I have ever heard of that isn't shift
> > on the fly' into 4 high.
> >
> > The owners manual for my CJ7 says I can shift at any legal speed into 4
> > high, and I do it all the time.
> >
> > Mike
> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> >
> > JimG wrote:
> > >
> > > With a CJ, be stopped to shift from 2W to 4WH or 4WL. The Dana 20 ain't
> no
> > > "shift on the fly". The pattern is four positions, straight in line...
> all
> > > the way forward is 4WH, then coming back, neutral, 2WH, and then 4WL (I
> > > believe that's correct if my memory serves me). The shift pattern is
> > > typically on the ****. Depress the clutch to shift, and you may have to
> > > bump it a bit (let clutch out briefly in forward/reverse) to get in/out
> of
> > > gear. Lock the hubs in at the trail head and shift to 4WD when needed
> will
> > > work fine.
> > > Good Luck!
> > >
> > > --
> > > JimG
> > > 80' CJ-7, 258 CID
> > > 35" BFG MT's on 15x10 Centerlines
> > > 4.56 D30-D44 SOA
> > > D300 w/4:1 & Currie twin sticks
> > > Warn 8000i w/dual batteries
> > > LockRight F&R
> > >
> > > "travis" <travist34removethis@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> > > news:049qovgcv5b55gfquej1gdo8g9q8c99i6f@4ax.com...
> > > > Hi all, I'm going to go check out a '78 CJ-7 with 304/3-speed today at
> > > > noon. Supposedly "everything works" and the drivetrain is 100% stock.
> > > > I think that means a spicer-20 xfer case (good thing from what I
> > > > read), dana20 rear(weakest link on this setup from what I read), and
> > > > dana30 front (not bad from what I've read). I've ridden in a few
> > > > Jeeps but I've never actually driven one so I have the ultimate newbie
> > > > question for you... I know how to drive a stick shift just fine,
> > > > but... (here comes the embarrassing part...I've never actually driven
> > > > a 4WD vehicle before so the xfer case shifting stuff is a myster to
> > > > me...) on a 4WD vehicle there's that extra stick for the xfer case
> > > > to choose between 2WD/4WD and high/low... On a Jeep, what is that
> > > > shift pattern like? Hopefully it's marked on the stick... Like
> > > > forward and to the left for 2WD, then straight back for 4WD(high), and
> > > > back and to the right for 4WD(low)? (Just as an example) Something
> > > > like that? Also, when using the xfer case shifter, I'd guess that I
> > > > would depress the clutch like I do to shift transmission gears? In a
> > > > normal offroad situation I think I'd approach the trail, get out and
> > > > engage the manual hubs (keeping the xfer case set for 2WD) and then
> > > > enter the trails and drive around like that and switch to 4WD using
> > > > the xfer case when needed. I mean, it wouldn't hurt to drive around
> > > > some with the hubs locked but the Jeep still in 2WD, would it? That
> > > > would just make it so that the front axle would be spinning since it
> > > > would be "locked" at the wheel hub as I moved but the front driveshaft
> > > > would still be stationary because it was decoupled from the xfer case,
> > > > right? I think I have that right, but wanted to be sure. The most
> > > > important thing I need to know for right now though, is how to shift
> > > > the xfer case since I'm gonna go test drive this Jeep today. Use the
> > > > clutch when shifting xfer case? (probably) And the shift pattern? I
> > > > have no idea what it is. Oh, and I'm also guessing that I wouldn't
> > > > shift the xfer case at all unless I'm at a full stop, not moving at
> > > > all? Thanks! (Hey, everybody had to learn this stuff at some
> > > > point... Maybe a couple of years from now I'll google search on this
> > > > post and have a good laugh at myself for having questions like these.
> > > > :-)
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > Travis
> > > > http://jeepadventures.dyndns.org/jeep.html
> > > > The meek shall inherit the earth. After I'm finished with it.
> > > > :wq!
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