Does your Jeep have vinyl or cloth seating?
#111
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Re: Does your Jeep have vinyl or cloth seating?
Is that the way you measure a half ton truck?
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
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COLLIDE13@webtv.net wrote:
>
> A stock TJ would not handle a 1/4 ton? Myself and my buddy
> Steve=that(500lbs)...And gear.She rides quite well, thank you.Son.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
COLLIDE13@webtv.net wrote:
>
> A stock TJ would not handle a 1/4 ton? Myself and my buddy
> Steve=that(500lbs)...And gear.She rides quite well, thank you.Son.
#112
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Re: Does your Jeep have vinyl or cloth seating?
Is that the way you measure a half ton truck?
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
COLLIDE13@webtv.net wrote:
>
> A stock TJ would not handle a 1/4 ton? Myself and my buddy
> Steve=that(500lbs)...And gear.She rides quite well, thank you.Son.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
COLLIDE13@webtv.net wrote:
>
> A stock TJ would not handle a 1/4 ton? Myself and my buddy
> Steve=that(500lbs)...And gear.She rides quite well, thank you.Son.
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Re: Does your Jeep have vinyl or cloth seating?
Is that the way you measure a half ton truck?
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
COLLIDE13@webtv.net wrote:
>
> A stock TJ would not handle a 1/4 ton? Myself and my buddy
> Steve=that(500lbs)...And gear.She rides quite well, thank you.Son.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
COLLIDE13@webtv.net wrote:
>
> A stock TJ would not handle a 1/4 ton? Myself and my buddy
> Steve=that(500lbs)...And gear.She rides quite well, thank you.Son.
#114
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Re: Does your Jeep have vinyl or cloth seating?
Just to prove I have been paying attention:
Real Jeeps also have a c channel chassis and Dana 44s
with 6 stud hubs. (I think my Waggy doesn't qualify because it although it
has both of those, it has a nancy-boy NP229 transfer case, so I believe
another
Bill requisite is a gear driven transfer case). Bill hasn't made it clear
whether
a V8 is mandatory or optional, although he has pointed out he expects a
to see an AMC 401 swap pretty sharpish.
Am I correct Mr H ?
Dave Milne, Scotland
'91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
"mabar" <mabar@NoSpammmgbronline.com> wrote in message
news:p-ydnao0gJNeWBzdRVn_iw@gbronline.com...
> Bill's definition of a "real Jeep" pretty much boils down to any Jeep with
4
> leaf springs from the factory.
>
> Some people just can't adjust to the 4-wheel coil springs on a TJ which
give
> a MUCH better, more civilized, and more comfortable ride, both on and off
> road, as well as more suspension travel in stock form, when compared to
> stock leaf spring Jeeps.
>
> Tom
>
> "Muuurgh" <meatbag@porkfat.com> wrote in message
> news:c5s9j2$51kh3$1@ID-104752.news.uni-berlin.de...
> > Please define: Real Jeep
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Muuurgh
> >
> > "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
> > news:4081920F.9A1216A@***.net...
> > > It doesn't say anything about water as a problem with Real Jeeps:
> > > http://www.monsterslayer.com/jeep/Gauges.htm
> > > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> snip
>
>
Real Jeeps also have a c channel chassis and Dana 44s
with 6 stud hubs. (I think my Waggy doesn't qualify because it although it
has both of those, it has a nancy-boy NP229 transfer case, so I believe
another
Bill requisite is a gear driven transfer case). Bill hasn't made it clear
whether
a V8 is mandatory or optional, although he has pointed out he expects a
to see an AMC 401 swap pretty sharpish.
Am I correct Mr H ?
Dave Milne, Scotland
'91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
"mabar" <mabar@NoSpammmgbronline.com> wrote in message
news:p-ydnao0gJNeWBzdRVn_iw@gbronline.com...
> Bill's definition of a "real Jeep" pretty much boils down to any Jeep with
4
> leaf springs from the factory.
>
> Some people just can't adjust to the 4-wheel coil springs on a TJ which
give
> a MUCH better, more civilized, and more comfortable ride, both on and off
> road, as well as more suspension travel in stock form, when compared to
> stock leaf spring Jeeps.
>
> Tom
>
> "Muuurgh" <meatbag@porkfat.com> wrote in message
> news:c5s9j2$51kh3$1@ID-104752.news.uni-berlin.de...
> > Please define: Real Jeep
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Muuurgh
> >
> > "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
> > news:4081920F.9A1216A@***.net...
> > > It doesn't say anything about water as a problem with Real Jeeps:
> > > http://www.monsterslayer.com/jeep/Gauges.htm
> > > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> snip
>
>
#115
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Re: Does your Jeep have vinyl or cloth seating?
Just to prove I have been paying attention:
Real Jeeps also have a c channel chassis and Dana 44s
with 6 stud hubs. (I think my Waggy doesn't qualify because it although it
has both of those, it has a nancy-boy NP229 transfer case, so I believe
another
Bill requisite is a gear driven transfer case). Bill hasn't made it clear
whether
a V8 is mandatory or optional, although he has pointed out he expects a
to see an AMC 401 swap pretty sharpish.
Am I correct Mr H ?
Dave Milne, Scotland
'91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
"mabar" <mabar@NoSpammmgbronline.com> wrote in message
news:p-ydnao0gJNeWBzdRVn_iw@gbronline.com...
> Bill's definition of a "real Jeep" pretty much boils down to any Jeep with
4
> leaf springs from the factory.
>
> Some people just can't adjust to the 4-wheel coil springs on a TJ which
give
> a MUCH better, more civilized, and more comfortable ride, both on and off
> road, as well as more suspension travel in stock form, when compared to
> stock leaf spring Jeeps.
>
> Tom
>
> "Muuurgh" <meatbag@porkfat.com> wrote in message
> news:c5s9j2$51kh3$1@ID-104752.news.uni-berlin.de...
> > Please define: Real Jeep
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Muuurgh
> >
> > "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
> > news:4081920F.9A1216A@***.net...
> > > It doesn't say anything about water as a problem with Real Jeeps:
> > > http://www.monsterslayer.com/jeep/Gauges.htm
> > > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> snip
>
>
Real Jeeps also have a c channel chassis and Dana 44s
with 6 stud hubs. (I think my Waggy doesn't qualify because it although it
has both of those, it has a nancy-boy NP229 transfer case, so I believe
another
Bill requisite is a gear driven transfer case). Bill hasn't made it clear
whether
a V8 is mandatory or optional, although he has pointed out he expects a
to see an AMC 401 swap pretty sharpish.
Am I correct Mr H ?
Dave Milne, Scotland
'91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
"mabar" <mabar@NoSpammmgbronline.com> wrote in message
news:p-ydnao0gJNeWBzdRVn_iw@gbronline.com...
> Bill's definition of a "real Jeep" pretty much boils down to any Jeep with
4
> leaf springs from the factory.
>
> Some people just can't adjust to the 4-wheel coil springs on a TJ which
give
> a MUCH better, more civilized, and more comfortable ride, both on and off
> road, as well as more suspension travel in stock form, when compared to
> stock leaf spring Jeeps.
>
> Tom
>
> "Muuurgh" <meatbag@porkfat.com> wrote in message
> news:c5s9j2$51kh3$1@ID-104752.news.uni-berlin.de...
> > Please define: Real Jeep
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Muuurgh
> >
> > "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
> > news:4081920F.9A1216A@***.net...
> > > It doesn't say anything about water as a problem with Real Jeeps:
> > > http://www.monsterslayer.com/jeep/Gauges.htm
> > > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> snip
>
>
#116
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Re: Does your Jeep have vinyl or cloth seating?
Just to prove I have been paying attention:
Real Jeeps also have a c channel chassis and Dana 44s
with 6 stud hubs. (I think my Waggy doesn't qualify because it although it
has both of those, it has a nancy-boy NP229 transfer case, so I believe
another
Bill requisite is a gear driven transfer case). Bill hasn't made it clear
whether
a V8 is mandatory or optional, although he has pointed out he expects a
to see an AMC 401 swap pretty sharpish.
Am I correct Mr H ?
Dave Milne, Scotland
'91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
"mabar" <mabar@NoSpammmgbronline.com> wrote in message
news:p-ydnao0gJNeWBzdRVn_iw@gbronline.com...
> Bill's definition of a "real Jeep" pretty much boils down to any Jeep with
4
> leaf springs from the factory.
>
> Some people just can't adjust to the 4-wheel coil springs on a TJ which
give
> a MUCH better, more civilized, and more comfortable ride, both on and off
> road, as well as more suspension travel in stock form, when compared to
> stock leaf spring Jeeps.
>
> Tom
>
> "Muuurgh" <meatbag@porkfat.com> wrote in message
> news:c5s9j2$51kh3$1@ID-104752.news.uni-berlin.de...
> > Please define: Real Jeep
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Muuurgh
> >
> > "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
> > news:4081920F.9A1216A@***.net...
> > > It doesn't say anything about water as a problem with Real Jeeps:
> > > http://www.monsterslayer.com/jeep/Gauges.htm
> > > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> snip
>
>
Real Jeeps also have a c channel chassis and Dana 44s
with 6 stud hubs. (I think my Waggy doesn't qualify because it although it
has both of those, it has a nancy-boy NP229 transfer case, so I believe
another
Bill requisite is a gear driven transfer case). Bill hasn't made it clear
whether
a V8 is mandatory or optional, although he has pointed out he expects a
to see an AMC 401 swap pretty sharpish.
Am I correct Mr H ?
Dave Milne, Scotland
'91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
"mabar" <mabar@NoSpammmgbronline.com> wrote in message
news:p-ydnao0gJNeWBzdRVn_iw@gbronline.com...
> Bill's definition of a "real Jeep" pretty much boils down to any Jeep with
4
> leaf springs from the factory.
>
> Some people just can't adjust to the 4-wheel coil springs on a TJ which
give
> a MUCH better, more civilized, and more comfortable ride, both on and off
> road, as well as more suspension travel in stock form, when compared to
> stock leaf spring Jeeps.
>
> Tom
>
> "Muuurgh" <meatbag@porkfat.com> wrote in message
> news:c5s9j2$51kh3$1@ID-104752.news.uni-berlin.de...
> > Please define: Real Jeep
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Muuurgh
> >
> > "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
> > news:4081920F.9A1216A@***.net...
> > > It doesn't say anything about water as a problem with Real Jeeps:
> > > http://www.monsterslayer.com/jeep/Gauges.htm
> > > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> snip
>
>
#117
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Re: Does your Jeep have vinyl or cloth seating?
Just to prove I have been paying attention:
Real Jeeps also have a c channel chassis and Dana 44s
with 6 stud hubs. (I think my Waggy doesn't qualify because it although it
has both of those, it has a nancy-boy NP229 transfer case, so I believe
another
Bill requisite is a gear driven transfer case). Bill hasn't made it clear
whether
a V8 is mandatory or optional, although he has pointed out he expects a
to see an AMC 401 swap pretty sharpish.
Am I correct Mr H ?
Dave Milne, Scotland
'91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
"mabar" <mabar@NoSpammmgbronline.com> wrote in message
news:p-ydnao0gJNeWBzdRVn_iw@gbronline.com...
> Bill's definition of a "real Jeep" pretty much boils down to any Jeep with
4
> leaf springs from the factory.
>
> Some people just can't adjust to the 4-wheel coil springs on a TJ which
give
> a MUCH better, more civilized, and more comfortable ride, both on and off
> road, as well as more suspension travel in stock form, when compared to
> stock leaf spring Jeeps.
>
> Tom
>
> "Muuurgh" <meatbag@porkfat.com> wrote in message
> news:c5s9j2$51kh3$1@ID-104752.news.uni-berlin.de...
> > Please define: Real Jeep
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Muuurgh
> >
> > "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
> > news:4081920F.9A1216A@***.net...
> > > It doesn't say anything about water as a problem with Real Jeeps:
> > > http://www.monsterslayer.com/jeep/Gauges.htm
> > > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> snip
>
>
Real Jeeps also have a c channel chassis and Dana 44s
with 6 stud hubs. (I think my Waggy doesn't qualify because it although it
has both of those, it has a nancy-boy NP229 transfer case, so I believe
another
Bill requisite is a gear driven transfer case). Bill hasn't made it clear
whether
a V8 is mandatory or optional, although he has pointed out he expects a
to see an AMC 401 swap pretty sharpish.
Am I correct Mr H ?
Dave Milne, Scotland
'91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
"mabar" <mabar@NoSpammmgbronline.com> wrote in message
news:p-ydnao0gJNeWBzdRVn_iw@gbronline.com...
> Bill's definition of a "real Jeep" pretty much boils down to any Jeep with
4
> leaf springs from the factory.
>
> Some people just can't adjust to the 4-wheel coil springs on a TJ which
give
> a MUCH better, more civilized, and more comfortable ride, both on and off
> road, as well as more suspension travel in stock form, when compared to
> stock leaf spring Jeeps.
>
> Tom
>
> "Muuurgh" <meatbag@porkfat.com> wrote in message
> news:c5s9j2$51kh3$1@ID-104752.news.uni-berlin.de...
> > Please define: Real Jeep
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Muuurgh
> >
> > "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
> > news:4081920F.9A1216A@***.net...
> > > It doesn't say anything about water as a problem with Real Jeeps:
> > > http://www.monsterslayer.com/jeep/Gauges.htm
> > > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> snip
>
>
#118
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Re: Does your Jeep have vinyl or cloth seating?
From Jeeps website for the TJ Sahara
Kerb weight: 1774kg
Payload: 245kg.
Max towing weight (braked trailer) 1920kg.
Dave Milne, Scotland
'91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:4081CD3E.7DA4EACB@***.net...
> When it come to that frog or Japanese transmission, and bicycle
> chain transfers to that Dana 7 and 1/2" puny axle. A Jeep should be
> capable of carrying a quarter ton, like it did in W.W.II.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> "David C. Moller" wrote:
> >
> > Actually, I don't think it stops with leaf springs... I think YJ's
> > feel his wrath, too. ;)
> >
> > Dave
> > http://mysite.verizon.net/res0p2es/david/index.htm
Kerb weight: 1774kg
Payload: 245kg.
Max towing weight (braked trailer) 1920kg.
Dave Milne, Scotland
'91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:4081CD3E.7DA4EACB@***.net...
> When it come to that frog or Japanese transmission, and bicycle
> chain transfers to that Dana 7 and 1/2" puny axle. A Jeep should be
> capable of carrying a quarter ton, like it did in W.W.II.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> "David C. Moller" wrote:
> >
> > Actually, I don't think it stops with leaf springs... I think YJ's
> > feel his wrath, too. ;)
> >
> > Dave
> > http://mysite.verizon.net/res0p2es/david/index.htm
#119
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Re: Does your Jeep have vinyl or cloth seating?
From Jeeps website for the TJ Sahara
Kerb weight: 1774kg
Payload: 245kg.
Max towing weight (braked trailer) 1920kg.
Dave Milne, Scotland
'91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:4081CD3E.7DA4EACB@***.net...
> When it come to that frog or Japanese transmission, and bicycle
> chain transfers to that Dana 7 and 1/2" puny axle. A Jeep should be
> capable of carrying a quarter ton, like it did in W.W.II.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> "David C. Moller" wrote:
> >
> > Actually, I don't think it stops with leaf springs... I think YJ's
> > feel his wrath, too. ;)
> >
> > Dave
> > http://mysite.verizon.net/res0p2es/david/index.htm
Kerb weight: 1774kg
Payload: 245kg.
Max towing weight (braked trailer) 1920kg.
Dave Milne, Scotland
'91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:4081CD3E.7DA4EACB@***.net...
> When it come to that frog or Japanese transmission, and bicycle
> chain transfers to that Dana 7 and 1/2" puny axle. A Jeep should be
> capable of carrying a quarter ton, like it did in W.W.II.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> "David C. Moller" wrote:
> >
> > Actually, I don't think it stops with leaf springs... I think YJ's
> > feel his wrath, too. ;)
> >
> > Dave
> > http://mysite.verizon.net/res0p2es/david/index.htm
#120
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Re: Does your Jeep have vinyl or cloth seating?
From Jeeps website for the TJ Sahara
Kerb weight: 1774kg
Payload: 245kg.
Max towing weight (braked trailer) 1920kg.
Dave Milne, Scotland
'91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:4081CD3E.7DA4EACB@***.net...
> When it come to that frog or Japanese transmission, and bicycle
> chain transfers to that Dana 7 and 1/2" puny axle. A Jeep should be
> capable of carrying a quarter ton, like it did in W.W.II.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> "David C. Moller" wrote:
> >
> > Actually, I don't think it stops with leaf springs... I think YJ's
> > feel his wrath, too. ;)
> >
> > Dave
> > http://mysite.verizon.net/res0p2es/david/index.htm
Kerb weight: 1774kg
Payload: 245kg.
Max towing weight (braked trailer) 1920kg.
Dave Milne, Scotland
'91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:4081CD3E.7DA4EACB@***.net...
> When it come to that frog or Japanese transmission, and bicycle
> chain transfers to that Dana 7 and 1/2" puny axle. A Jeep should be
> capable of carrying a quarter ton, like it did in W.W.II.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> "David C. Moller" wrote:
> >
> > Actually, I don't think it stops with leaf springs... I think YJ's
> > feel his wrath, too. ;)
> >
> > Dave
> > http://mysite.verizon.net/res0p2es/david/index.htm