Differential Lubricant Recommendations?
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Re: Differential Lubricant Recommendations?
"Jerry Bransford" <jerrypb@***.net> wrote ...
> What few realize is that few Amsoil lubes have been certified to carry
> the SAE API seal which is required by automotive manufacturers to keep
> the warranty in effect.
>
Is this something relatively recent? I used Amsoil in everything from PU trucks
to 2-stroke race bikes 20 years go, until Mobil 1 began making thicker grades
than 5w-30. Worked great. For example, I bought a 1980 FLH with 30,000 Miles
from a dealer who warned me it'd need an overhaul soon. I put Amsoil in it and
rode it 2000 miles. The oil came out very dirty but the motor smoothed out and
stopped using and oil. 80,000 miles later I traded it in on a new 'evo', still
running fine and using no oil. I only quit Amsoil cuz it was so hard to get.
OTOH I'd not use any oil that wasn't SAE API if I can find one that is.
Naturally YMMV.
> What few realize is that few Amsoil lubes have been certified to carry
> the SAE API seal which is required by automotive manufacturers to keep
> the warranty in effect.
>
Is this something relatively recent? I used Amsoil in everything from PU trucks
to 2-stroke race bikes 20 years go, until Mobil 1 began making thicker grades
than 5w-30. Worked great. For example, I bought a 1980 FLH with 30,000 Miles
from a dealer who warned me it'd need an overhaul soon. I put Amsoil in it and
rode it 2000 miles. The oil came out very dirty but the motor smoothed out and
stopped using and oil. 80,000 miles later I traded it in on a new 'evo', still
running fine and using no oil. I only quit Amsoil cuz it was so hard to get.
OTOH I'd not use any oil that wasn't SAE API if I can find one that is.
Naturally YMMV.
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Re: Differential Lubricant Recommendations?
"Jerry Bransford" <jerrypb@***.net> wrote ...
> What few realize is that few Amsoil lubes have been certified to carry
> the SAE API seal which is required by automotive manufacturers to keep
> the warranty in effect.
>
Is this something relatively recent? I used Amsoil in everything from PU trucks
to 2-stroke race bikes 20 years go, until Mobil 1 began making thicker grades
than 5w-30. Worked great. For example, I bought a 1980 FLH with 30,000 Miles
from a dealer who warned me it'd need an overhaul soon. I put Amsoil in it and
rode it 2000 miles. The oil came out very dirty but the motor smoothed out and
stopped using and oil. 80,000 miles later I traded it in on a new 'evo', still
running fine and using no oil. I only quit Amsoil cuz it was so hard to get.
OTOH I'd not use any oil that wasn't SAE API if I can find one that is.
Naturally YMMV.
> What few realize is that few Amsoil lubes have been certified to carry
> the SAE API seal which is required by automotive manufacturers to keep
> the warranty in effect.
>
Is this something relatively recent? I used Amsoil in everything from PU trucks
to 2-stroke race bikes 20 years go, until Mobil 1 began making thicker grades
than 5w-30. Worked great. For example, I bought a 1980 FLH with 30,000 Miles
from a dealer who warned me it'd need an overhaul soon. I put Amsoil in it and
rode it 2000 miles. The oil came out very dirty but the motor smoothed out and
stopped using and oil. 80,000 miles later I traded it in on a new 'evo', still
running fine and using no oil. I only quit Amsoil cuz it was so hard to get.
OTOH I'd not use any oil that wasn't SAE API if I can find one that is.
Naturally YMMV.
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Re: Differential Lubricant Recommendations?
"Jerry Bransford" <jerrypb@***.net> wrote ...
> What few realize is that few Amsoil lubes have been certified to carry
> the SAE API seal which is required by automotive manufacturers to keep
> the warranty in effect.
>
Is this something relatively recent? I used Amsoil in everything from PU trucks
to 2-stroke race bikes 20 years go, until Mobil 1 began making thicker grades
than 5w-30. Worked great. For example, I bought a 1980 FLH with 30,000 Miles
from a dealer who warned me it'd need an overhaul soon. I put Amsoil in it and
rode it 2000 miles. The oil came out very dirty but the motor smoothed out and
stopped using and oil. 80,000 miles later I traded it in on a new 'evo', still
running fine and using no oil. I only quit Amsoil cuz it was so hard to get.
OTOH I'd not use any oil that wasn't SAE API if I can find one that is.
Naturally YMMV.
> What few realize is that few Amsoil lubes have been certified to carry
> the SAE API seal which is required by automotive manufacturers to keep
> the warranty in effect.
>
Is this something relatively recent? I used Amsoil in everything from PU trucks
to 2-stroke race bikes 20 years go, until Mobil 1 began making thicker grades
than 5w-30. Worked great. For example, I bought a 1980 FLH with 30,000 Miles
from a dealer who warned me it'd need an overhaul soon. I put Amsoil in it and
rode it 2000 miles. The oil came out very dirty but the motor smoothed out and
stopped using and oil. 80,000 miles later I traded it in on a new 'evo', still
running fine and using no oil. I only quit Amsoil cuz it was so hard to get.
OTOH I'd not use any oil that wasn't SAE API if I can find one that is.
Naturally YMMV.
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Re: Differential Lubricant Recommendations?
In article <441039aa$0$22069$a82e2bb9@reader.athenanews.com >,
Earle Horton <NurseBustersNoSpam@msn.com> wrote:
#In a hypothetical case, where a customer brings in his vehicle with a blown
#engine, how exactly do "they" determine that non-certified oil was used?
Simple. Ask for reciepts. From either the oil change places or receipts
for the oil you bought if you did it yourself.
Worse comes to worse, and there are no reciepts because they were lost or
whatever, you send a sample of goo to the lab.
A properly set up lab can tell you which brand of gas, down to the week of
production. And that is *after* it has been used to burn down a house.
Ask any arson investigator.
It's even easier with used oil.
/herb
Earle Horton <NurseBustersNoSpam@msn.com> wrote:
#In a hypothetical case, where a customer brings in his vehicle with a blown
#engine, how exactly do "they" determine that non-certified oil was used?
Simple. Ask for reciepts. From either the oil change places or receipts
for the oil you bought if you did it yourself.
Worse comes to worse, and there are no reciepts because they were lost or
whatever, you send a sample of goo to the lab.
A properly set up lab can tell you which brand of gas, down to the week of
production. And that is *after* it has been used to burn down a house.
Ask any arson investigator.
It's even easier with used oil.
/herb
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Re: Differential Lubricant Recommendations?
In article <441039aa$0$22069$a82e2bb9@reader.athenanews.com >,
Earle Horton <NurseBustersNoSpam@msn.com> wrote:
#In a hypothetical case, where a customer brings in his vehicle with a blown
#engine, how exactly do "they" determine that non-certified oil was used?
Simple. Ask for reciepts. From either the oil change places or receipts
for the oil you bought if you did it yourself.
Worse comes to worse, and there are no reciepts because they were lost or
whatever, you send a sample of goo to the lab.
A properly set up lab can tell you which brand of gas, down to the week of
production. And that is *after* it has been used to burn down a house.
Ask any arson investigator.
It's even easier with used oil.
/herb
Earle Horton <NurseBustersNoSpam@msn.com> wrote:
#In a hypothetical case, where a customer brings in his vehicle with a blown
#engine, how exactly do "they" determine that non-certified oil was used?
Simple. Ask for reciepts. From either the oil change places or receipts
for the oil you bought if you did it yourself.
Worse comes to worse, and there are no reciepts because they were lost or
whatever, you send a sample of goo to the lab.
A properly set up lab can tell you which brand of gas, down to the week of
production. And that is *after* it has been used to burn down a house.
Ask any arson investigator.
It's even easier with used oil.
/herb
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Re: Differential Lubricant Recommendations?
In article <441039aa$0$22069$a82e2bb9@reader.athenanews.com >,
Earle Horton <NurseBustersNoSpam@msn.com> wrote:
#In a hypothetical case, where a customer brings in his vehicle with a blown
#engine, how exactly do "they" determine that non-certified oil was used?
Simple. Ask for reciepts. From either the oil change places or receipts
for the oil you bought if you did it yourself.
Worse comes to worse, and there are no reciepts because they were lost or
whatever, you send a sample of goo to the lab.
A properly set up lab can tell you which brand of gas, down to the week of
production. And that is *after* it has been used to burn down a house.
Ask any arson investigator.
It's even easier with used oil.
/herb
Earle Horton <NurseBustersNoSpam@msn.com> wrote:
#In a hypothetical case, where a customer brings in his vehicle with a blown
#engine, how exactly do "they" determine that non-certified oil was used?
Simple. Ask for reciepts. From either the oil change places or receipts
for the oil you bought if you did it yourself.
Worse comes to worse, and there are no reciepts because they were lost or
whatever, you send a sample of goo to the lab.
A properly set up lab can tell you which brand of gas, down to the week of
production. And that is *after* it has been used to burn down a house.
Ask any arson investigator.
It's even easier with used oil.
/herb
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Re: Differential Lubricant Recommendations?
In article <441039aa$0$22069$a82e2bb9@reader.athenanews.com >,
Earle Horton <NurseBustersNoSpam@msn.com> wrote:
#In a hypothetical case, where a customer brings in his vehicle with a blown
#engine, how exactly do "they" determine that non-certified oil was used?
Simple. Ask for reciepts. From either the oil change places or receipts
for the oil you bought if you did it yourself.
Worse comes to worse, and there are no reciepts because they were lost or
whatever, you send a sample of goo to the lab.
A properly set up lab can tell you which brand of gas, down to the week of
production. And that is *after* it has been used to burn down a house.
Ask any arson investigator.
It's even easier with used oil.
/herb
Earle Horton <NurseBustersNoSpam@msn.com> wrote:
#In a hypothetical case, where a customer brings in his vehicle with a blown
#engine, how exactly do "they" determine that non-certified oil was used?
Simple. Ask for reciepts. From either the oil change places or receipts
for the oil you bought if you did it yourself.
Worse comes to worse, and there are no reciepts because they were lost or
whatever, you send a sample of goo to the lab.
A properly set up lab can tell you which brand of gas, down to the week of
production. And that is *after* it has been used to burn down a house.
Ask any arson investigator.
It's even easier with used oil.
/herb
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Re: Differential Lubricant Recommendations?
Since you need receipts to prove your engine had its oil changed often
enough, they would indicate the brand and type oil used. It'd be easy
for them to see if it was Amsoil and you can bet they would know most
Amsoil products don't have the required API certification. It'd then be
a simple matter to see if the particular Amsoil lube used was API
certified or not.
Earle Horton wrote:
> In a hypothetical case, where a customer brings in his vehicle with a blown
> engine, how exactly do "they" determine that non-certified oil was used?
>
> Earle
>
> "Matt Macchiarolo" <matt@nospamplease.com> wrote in message
> news:oISdndNG6eG0gY3ZRVn-jA@comcast.com...
>
>>If an oil is not API certified, it will void any manufacturer's warranty.
>>Most if not all Amsoil products are NOT API certified.
>>
>>"RapidRonnie" <rapidronnie@cbgb.net> wrote in message
>>news:1141874920.852867.9470@u72g2000cwu.googlegr oups.com...
>>
>>>As far as I know no manufacturer specifically prohibits Amsoil by
>>>brand. If the oil meets SAE specifications and ratings and is changed
>>>at the specified interval I know of no problem. If you can prove
>>>different please post your proof.
>>>
>>>Klotz, Bel-Ray, and many other small manufacturers sell synthetic oils
>>>for niche markets and they do very well in those markets. I am not an
>>>enthusiast of synthetics for general purpose use but for racing or
>>>other extreme service they offer advantages and I would use them.
>>>Amsoil is cheaper than Klotz and more available. It's true they sell by
>>>a method I am not in love with but their oil has proven effective in
>>>some applications.
>>>
>>>Ashless dispersant aviaton oils are not SAE approved for auto use
>>>either and anyone with an air cooled engine other than a Porsche 911,
>>>including a VW, Corvair, or similar, or air cooled pushrod motorcycle
>>>engines with shell bearings, uses nothing else on the street if they
>>>are not an idiot. Many Harley riders do too.
>>>
>>>You have an unjustified animus against Amsoil. Amsoil has won a lot of
>>>races and will win a lot more.
>>>
>>
>>
>
>
--
Jerry Bransford
PP-ASEL N6TAY
See the Geezer Jeep at
http://members.***.net/jerrypb/
enough, they would indicate the brand and type oil used. It'd be easy
for them to see if it was Amsoil and you can bet they would know most
Amsoil products don't have the required API certification. It'd then be
a simple matter to see if the particular Amsoil lube used was API
certified or not.
Earle Horton wrote:
> In a hypothetical case, where a customer brings in his vehicle with a blown
> engine, how exactly do "they" determine that non-certified oil was used?
>
> Earle
>
> "Matt Macchiarolo" <matt@nospamplease.com> wrote in message
> news:oISdndNG6eG0gY3ZRVn-jA@comcast.com...
>
>>If an oil is not API certified, it will void any manufacturer's warranty.
>>Most if not all Amsoil products are NOT API certified.
>>
>>"RapidRonnie" <rapidronnie@cbgb.net> wrote in message
>>news:1141874920.852867.9470@u72g2000cwu.googlegr oups.com...
>>
>>>As far as I know no manufacturer specifically prohibits Amsoil by
>>>brand. If the oil meets SAE specifications and ratings and is changed
>>>at the specified interval I know of no problem. If you can prove
>>>different please post your proof.
>>>
>>>Klotz, Bel-Ray, and many other small manufacturers sell synthetic oils
>>>for niche markets and they do very well in those markets. I am not an
>>>enthusiast of synthetics for general purpose use but for racing or
>>>other extreme service they offer advantages and I would use them.
>>>Amsoil is cheaper than Klotz and more available. It's true they sell by
>>>a method I am not in love with but their oil has proven effective in
>>>some applications.
>>>
>>>Ashless dispersant aviaton oils are not SAE approved for auto use
>>>either and anyone with an air cooled engine other than a Porsche 911,
>>>including a VW, Corvair, or similar, or air cooled pushrod motorcycle
>>>engines with shell bearings, uses nothing else on the street if they
>>>are not an idiot. Many Harley riders do too.
>>>
>>>You have an unjustified animus against Amsoil. Amsoil has won a lot of
>>>races and will win a lot more.
>>>
>>
>>
>
>
--
Jerry Bransford
PP-ASEL N6TAY
See the Geezer Jeep at
http://members.***.net/jerrypb/
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Re: Differential Lubricant Recommendations?
Since you need receipts to prove your engine had its oil changed often
enough, they would indicate the brand and type oil used. It'd be easy
for them to see if it was Amsoil and you can bet they would know most
Amsoil products don't have the required API certification. It'd then be
a simple matter to see if the particular Amsoil lube used was API
certified or not.
Earle Horton wrote:
> In a hypothetical case, where a customer brings in his vehicle with a blown
> engine, how exactly do "they" determine that non-certified oil was used?
>
> Earle
>
> "Matt Macchiarolo" <matt@nospamplease.com> wrote in message
> news:oISdndNG6eG0gY3ZRVn-jA@comcast.com...
>
>>If an oil is not API certified, it will void any manufacturer's warranty.
>>Most if not all Amsoil products are NOT API certified.
>>
>>"RapidRonnie" <rapidronnie@cbgb.net> wrote in message
>>news:1141874920.852867.9470@u72g2000cwu.googlegr oups.com...
>>
>>>As far as I know no manufacturer specifically prohibits Amsoil by
>>>brand. If the oil meets SAE specifications and ratings and is changed
>>>at the specified interval I know of no problem. If you can prove
>>>different please post your proof.
>>>
>>>Klotz, Bel-Ray, and many other small manufacturers sell synthetic oils
>>>for niche markets and they do very well in those markets. I am not an
>>>enthusiast of synthetics for general purpose use but for racing or
>>>other extreme service they offer advantages and I would use them.
>>>Amsoil is cheaper than Klotz and more available. It's true they sell by
>>>a method I am not in love with but their oil has proven effective in
>>>some applications.
>>>
>>>Ashless dispersant aviaton oils are not SAE approved for auto use
>>>either and anyone with an air cooled engine other than a Porsche 911,
>>>including a VW, Corvair, or similar, or air cooled pushrod motorcycle
>>>engines with shell bearings, uses nothing else on the street if they
>>>are not an idiot. Many Harley riders do too.
>>>
>>>You have an unjustified animus against Amsoil. Amsoil has won a lot of
>>>races and will win a lot more.
>>>
>>
>>
>
>
--
Jerry Bransford
PP-ASEL N6TAY
See the Geezer Jeep at
http://members.***.net/jerrypb/
enough, they would indicate the brand and type oil used. It'd be easy
for them to see if it was Amsoil and you can bet they would know most
Amsoil products don't have the required API certification. It'd then be
a simple matter to see if the particular Amsoil lube used was API
certified or not.
Earle Horton wrote:
> In a hypothetical case, where a customer brings in his vehicle with a blown
> engine, how exactly do "they" determine that non-certified oil was used?
>
> Earle
>
> "Matt Macchiarolo" <matt@nospamplease.com> wrote in message
> news:oISdndNG6eG0gY3ZRVn-jA@comcast.com...
>
>>If an oil is not API certified, it will void any manufacturer's warranty.
>>Most if not all Amsoil products are NOT API certified.
>>
>>"RapidRonnie" <rapidronnie@cbgb.net> wrote in message
>>news:1141874920.852867.9470@u72g2000cwu.googlegr oups.com...
>>
>>>As far as I know no manufacturer specifically prohibits Amsoil by
>>>brand. If the oil meets SAE specifications and ratings and is changed
>>>at the specified interval I know of no problem. If you can prove
>>>different please post your proof.
>>>
>>>Klotz, Bel-Ray, and many other small manufacturers sell synthetic oils
>>>for niche markets and they do very well in those markets. I am not an
>>>enthusiast of synthetics for general purpose use but for racing or
>>>other extreme service they offer advantages and I would use them.
>>>Amsoil is cheaper than Klotz and more available. It's true they sell by
>>>a method I am not in love with but their oil has proven effective in
>>>some applications.
>>>
>>>Ashless dispersant aviaton oils are not SAE approved for auto use
>>>either and anyone with an air cooled engine other than a Porsche 911,
>>>including a VW, Corvair, or similar, or air cooled pushrod motorcycle
>>>engines with shell bearings, uses nothing else on the street if they
>>>are not an idiot. Many Harley riders do too.
>>>
>>>You have an unjustified animus against Amsoil. Amsoil has won a lot of
>>>races and will win a lot more.
>>>
>>
>>
>
>
--
Jerry Bransford
PP-ASEL N6TAY
See the Geezer Jeep at
http://members.***.net/jerrypb/
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Re: Differential Lubricant Recommendations?
Since you need receipts to prove your engine had its oil changed often
enough, they would indicate the brand and type oil used. It'd be easy
for them to see if it was Amsoil and you can bet they would know most
Amsoil products don't have the required API certification. It'd then be
a simple matter to see if the particular Amsoil lube used was API
certified or not.
Earle Horton wrote:
> In a hypothetical case, where a customer brings in his vehicle with a blown
> engine, how exactly do "they" determine that non-certified oil was used?
>
> Earle
>
> "Matt Macchiarolo" <matt@nospamplease.com> wrote in message
> news:oISdndNG6eG0gY3ZRVn-jA@comcast.com...
>
>>If an oil is not API certified, it will void any manufacturer's warranty.
>>Most if not all Amsoil products are NOT API certified.
>>
>>"RapidRonnie" <rapidronnie@cbgb.net> wrote in message
>>news:1141874920.852867.9470@u72g2000cwu.googlegr oups.com...
>>
>>>As far as I know no manufacturer specifically prohibits Amsoil by
>>>brand. If the oil meets SAE specifications and ratings and is changed
>>>at the specified interval I know of no problem. If you can prove
>>>different please post your proof.
>>>
>>>Klotz, Bel-Ray, and many other small manufacturers sell synthetic oils
>>>for niche markets and they do very well in those markets. I am not an
>>>enthusiast of synthetics for general purpose use but for racing or
>>>other extreme service they offer advantages and I would use them.
>>>Amsoil is cheaper than Klotz and more available. It's true they sell by
>>>a method I am not in love with but their oil has proven effective in
>>>some applications.
>>>
>>>Ashless dispersant aviaton oils are not SAE approved for auto use
>>>either and anyone with an air cooled engine other than a Porsche 911,
>>>including a VW, Corvair, or similar, or air cooled pushrod motorcycle
>>>engines with shell bearings, uses nothing else on the street if they
>>>are not an idiot. Many Harley riders do too.
>>>
>>>You have an unjustified animus against Amsoil. Amsoil has won a lot of
>>>races and will win a lot more.
>>>
>>
>>
>
>
--
Jerry Bransford
PP-ASEL N6TAY
See the Geezer Jeep at
http://members.***.net/jerrypb/
enough, they would indicate the brand and type oil used. It'd be easy
for them to see if it was Amsoil and you can bet they would know most
Amsoil products don't have the required API certification. It'd then be
a simple matter to see if the particular Amsoil lube used was API
certified or not.
Earle Horton wrote:
> In a hypothetical case, where a customer brings in his vehicle with a blown
> engine, how exactly do "they" determine that non-certified oil was used?
>
> Earle
>
> "Matt Macchiarolo" <matt@nospamplease.com> wrote in message
> news:oISdndNG6eG0gY3ZRVn-jA@comcast.com...
>
>>If an oil is not API certified, it will void any manufacturer's warranty.
>>Most if not all Amsoil products are NOT API certified.
>>
>>"RapidRonnie" <rapidronnie@cbgb.net> wrote in message
>>news:1141874920.852867.9470@u72g2000cwu.googlegr oups.com...
>>
>>>As far as I know no manufacturer specifically prohibits Amsoil by
>>>brand. If the oil meets SAE specifications and ratings and is changed
>>>at the specified interval I know of no problem. If you can prove
>>>different please post your proof.
>>>
>>>Klotz, Bel-Ray, and many other small manufacturers sell synthetic oils
>>>for niche markets and they do very well in those markets. I am not an
>>>enthusiast of synthetics for general purpose use but for racing or
>>>other extreme service they offer advantages and I would use them.
>>>Amsoil is cheaper than Klotz and more available. It's true they sell by
>>>a method I am not in love with but their oil has proven effective in
>>>some applications.
>>>
>>>Ashless dispersant aviaton oils are not SAE approved for auto use
>>>either and anyone with an air cooled engine other than a Porsche 911,
>>>including a VW, Corvair, or similar, or air cooled pushrod motorcycle
>>>engines with shell bearings, uses nothing else on the street if they
>>>are not an idiot. Many Harley riders do too.
>>>
>>>You have an unjustified animus against Amsoil. Amsoil has won a lot of
>>>races and will win a lot more.
>>>
>>
>>
>
>
--
Jerry Bransford
PP-ASEL N6TAY
See the Geezer Jeep at
http://members.***.net/jerrypb/
