Earle Horton

The Libertarian Party is not socialist. One of their principles is the end
of all government subsidies, including the corporate welfare your capitalist
businessmen are so addicted to.

Earle

"L.W.(Bill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:4434B4CE.F7490C64@***.net...
> My views are 180 out of your so-called independent socialist party.
> One hundred percent capitalist businessman. If they want to use diesel
> they should pay for it, without government subsidies!
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Earle Horton wrote:
> >
> > Bill, that is a Socialist concept, that one has to justify access to
> > resources, for the common good. In the United States, State of
Colorado,
> > where I live, people like Matt can burn all the diesel they want, if
they
> > are willing to pay for it.
> >
> > Earle


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Earle Horton

The Libertarian Party is not socialist. One of their principles is the end
of all government subsidies, including the corporate welfare your capitalist
businessmen are so addicted to.

Earle

"L.W.(Bill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:4434B4CE.F7490C64@***.net...
> My views are 180 out of your so-called independent socialist party.
> One hundred percent capitalist businessman. If they want to use diesel
> they should pay for it, without government subsidies!
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Earle Horton wrote:
> >
> > Bill, that is a Socialist concept, that one has to justify access to
> > resources, for the common good. In the United States, State of
Colorado,
> > where I live, people like Matt can burn all the diesel they want, if
they
> > are willing to pay for it.
> >
> > Earle


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Lon

Can we all get together to buy Bill a good old timey steam engine so he
can go babble himself to sleep and everyone else can actually talk about
engines from the most recent TWO centuries? i.e. after he last actually
was within a mile or two of modern technology.

L.W.(Bill) ------ III proclaimed:
> Yes, That's all a gasoline engine needs, they don't need an
> additional exhaust filter like your Ford. Without which it would look
> like this when you pour the coal to it:
> http://www.----------.com/dodgediesel.jpg
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:--------------------
>
> Matt Macchiarolo wrote:
>
>>So what? The only way to clean NO2 and CO from gasoline engine exhaust is to
>>use a catalyst in the exhaust flow.

Lon

Can we all get together to buy Bill a good old timey steam engine so he
can go babble himself to sleep and everyone else can actually talk about
engines from the most recent TWO centuries? i.e. after he last actually
was within a mile or two of modern technology.

L.W.(Bill) ------ III proclaimed:
> Yes, That's all a gasoline engine needs, they don't need an
> additional exhaust filter like your Ford. Without which it would look
> like this when you pour the coal to it:
> http://www.----------.com/dodgediesel.jpg
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:--------------------
>
> Matt Macchiarolo wrote:
>
>>So what? The only way to clean NO2 and CO from gasoline engine exhaust is to
>>use a catalyst in the exhaust flow.

Lon

Can we all get together to buy Bill a good old timey steam engine so he
can go babble himself to sleep and everyone else can actually talk about
engines from the most recent TWO centuries? i.e. after he last actually
was within a mile or two of modern technology.

L.W.(Bill) ------ III proclaimed:
> Yes, That's all a gasoline engine needs, they don't need an
> additional exhaust filter like your Ford. Without which it would look
> like this when you pour the coal to it:
> http://www.----------.com/dodgediesel.jpg
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:--------------------
>
> Matt Macchiarolo wrote:
>
>>So what? The only way to clean NO2 and CO from gasoline engine exhaust is to
>>use a catalyst in the exhaust flow.

Lon

Spdloader proclaimed:

> I want to go topless... simple as that. Needed a convertible AND 4wd... the
> Liberty couldn't do that.
>
>
>
> Most women need nothing more than about three margueritas to go topless.
>
> You, on the other hand, need an off road vehicle.
>
> Cool.
>
> Spdloader
>
>
>
>
> "Kate" <Kate@dub.dub.dub.com (please ask)> wrote in message news:xL%Yf.452$x63.50@bignews4.bellsouth.net...
>
>>Where did I not say it is a REAL Jeep?
>>I said, be sure it's what he wants.
>>When I bought it I needed something to haul people in.
>>People left,a and it was no longer what I wanted. I could have invested a
>>shitload of money into it and it still would not have been what I wanted.
>>I want to go topless... simple as that. Needed a convertible AND 4wd... the
>>Liberty couldn't do that.
>>
>>You may have misinterpreted my post thinking I was saying that he may want
>>to consider another vehicle. No biggie, it's hard to catch those subtle
>>nuances in text ?
>>
>>Personally, I would have them both if I could afford them but I choose the
>>topless option over the other luxuries of the Liberty.
>>
>>I'm not gonna dis the Libby, nope not gonna do it. I know a few people in
>>here are just waiting for it to happen too.
>>
>>I loved the little beast... I'll still defend the little thing it was a damn
>>fine vehicle
>>BUT.. I am a spoiled, fickle creature and that's all I have to say about
>>that.
>>
>>Kate
>>
>>
>>
>>"Earle Horton" <nurse--NOSPAM--busters@msn.com> wrote in message
>>news:4433d044$0$28480$6d36acad@titian.nntpserver .com...
>>: Kate,
>>:
>>: That's not what you were saying when you first bought it. You were very
>>: defensive, about how it was a "real" Jeep, etc.
>>:
>>: Earle
>>:
>>: "Kate" <Kate@dub.dub.dub.com (please ask)> wrote in message
>>: news:8DOYf.8716$Q7.1499@bignews2.bellsouth.net...
>>: > I don't know what the diesels get but my 05 Libby was getting 16.4 avg,
>>: > running mid grade when I traded it in.
>>: > Only trouble I had with it (a WHOLE 9k miles) was the cd player.
>>: >
>>: > It's a nice little rig so long as you're SURE it's what you want.
>>: > (that there my friend was the voice of experience you just heard)
>>: >
>>: > Kate
>>: > 2O|||||||O6 Rubicon
>>: >
>>: > <eric@rr.com> wrote in message
>>: > news:328732174di0frdjkdjfprln3hrglmemgh@4ax.com...
>>: > : MotorWeek did a bit on it a few weeks back. Basically they said that
>>: > : the increased mpg is negated by the higher cost of diesel (vs regular
>>: > : unleaded).
>>: > :
>>: > : On Wed, 05 Apr 2006 03:48:13 GMT, Mark Perrin <ms.perrin@shaw.ca>
>>: > : wrote:
>>: > :
>>: > : >Any experience with the diesel version? What's the mileage really
>>like?
>>: > : >The consumer reports say not enough data. It's been around for a
>>while
>>: > : >in Europe though so I'm also wondering what the life expectancy is.
>>: > : >
>>: > : >Thanks!
>>: > : >
>>: > : >Mark
>>: >
>>: >
>>:
>>:
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Lon

Spdloader proclaimed:

> I want to go topless... simple as that. Needed a convertible AND 4wd... the
> Liberty couldn't do that.
>
>
>
> Most women need nothing more than about three margueritas to go topless.
>
> You, on the other hand, need an off road vehicle.
>
> Cool.
>
> Spdloader
>
>
>
>
> "Kate" <Kate@dub.dub.dub.com (please ask)> wrote in message news:xL%Yf.452$x63.50@bignews4.bellsouth.net...
>
>>Where did I not say it is a REAL Jeep?
>>I said, be sure it's what he wants.
>>When I bought it I needed something to haul people in.
>>People left,a and it was no longer what I wanted. I could have invested a
>>shitload of money into it and it still would not have been what I wanted.
>>I want to go topless... simple as that. Needed a convertible AND 4wd... the
>>Liberty couldn't do that.
>>
>>You may have misinterpreted my post thinking I was saying that he may want
>>to consider another vehicle. No biggie, it's hard to catch those subtle
>>nuances in text ?
>>
>>Personally, I would have them both if I could afford them but I choose the
>>topless option over the other luxuries of the Liberty.
>>
>>I'm not gonna dis the Libby, nope not gonna do it. I know a few people in
>>here are just waiting for it to happen too.
>>
>>I loved the little beast... I'll still defend the little thing it was a damn
>>fine vehicle
>>BUT.. I am a spoiled, fickle creature and that's all I have to say about
>>that.
>>
>>Kate
>>
>>
>>
>>"Earle Horton" <nurse--NOSPAM--busters@msn.com> wrote in message
>>news:4433d044$0$28480$6d36acad@titian.nntpserver .com...
>>: Kate,
>>:
>>: That's not what you were saying when you first bought it. You were very
>>: defensive, about how it was a "real" Jeep, etc.
>>:
>>: Earle
>>:
>>: "Kate" <Kate@dub.dub.dub.com (please ask)> wrote in message
>>: news:8DOYf.8716$Q7.1499@bignews2.bellsouth.net...
>>: > I don't know what the diesels get but my 05 Libby was getting 16.4 avg,
>>: > running mid grade when I traded it in.
>>: > Only trouble I had with it (a WHOLE 9k miles) was the cd player.
>>: >
>>: > It's a nice little rig so long as you're SURE it's what you want.
>>: > (that there my friend was the voice of experience you just heard)
>>: >
>>: > Kate
>>: > 2O|||||||O6 Rubicon
>>: >
>>: > <eric@rr.com> wrote in message
>>: > news:328732174di0frdjkdjfprln3hrglmemgh@4ax.com...
>>: > : MotorWeek did a bit on it a few weeks back. Basically they said that
>>: > : the increased mpg is negated by the higher cost of diesel (vs regular
>>: > : unleaded).
>>: > :
>>: > : On Wed, 05 Apr 2006 03:48:13 GMT, Mark Perrin <ms.perrin@shaw.ca>
>>: > : wrote:
>>: > :
>>: > : >Any experience with the diesel version? What's the mileage really
>>like?
>>: > : >The consumer reports say not enough data. It's been around for a
>>while
>>: > : >in Europe though so I'm also wondering what the life expectancy is.
>>: > : >
>>: > : >Thanks!
>>: > : >
>>: > : >Mark
>>: >
>>: >
>>:
>>:
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Lon

Spdloader proclaimed:

> I want to go topless... simple as that. Needed a convertible AND 4wd... the
> Liberty couldn't do that.
>
>
>
> Most women need nothing more than about three margueritas to go topless.
>
> You, on the other hand, need an off road vehicle.
>
> Cool.
>
> Spdloader
>
>
>
>
> "Kate" <Kate@dub.dub.dub.com (please ask)> wrote in message news:xL%Yf.452$x63.50@bignews4.bellsouth.net...
>
>>Where did I not say it is a REAL Jeep?
>>I said, be sure it's what he wants.
>>When I bought it I needed something to haul people in.
>>People left,a and it was no longer what I wanted. I could have invested a
>>shitload of money into it and it still would not have been what I wanted.
>>I want to go topless... simple as that. Needed a convertible AND 4wd... the
>>Liberty couldn't do that.
>>
>>You may have misinterpreted my post thinking I was saying that he may want
>>to consider another vehicle. No biggie, it's hard to catch those subtle
>>nuances in text ?
>>
>>Personally, I would have them both if I could afford them but I choose the
>>topless option over the other luxuries of the Liberty.
>>
>>I'm not gonna dis the Libby, nope not gonna do it. I know a few people in
>>here are just waiting for it to happen too.
>>
>>I loved the little beast... I'll still defend the little thing it was a damn
>>fine vehicle
>>BUT.. I am a spoiled, fickle creature and that's all I have to say about
>>that.
>>
>>Kate
>>
>>
>>
>>"Earle Horton" <nurse--NOSPAM--busters@msn.com> wrote in message
>>news:4433d044$0$28480$6d36acad@titian.nntpserver .com...
>>: Kate,
>>:
>>: That's not what you were saying when you first bought it. You were very
>>: defensive, about how it was a "real" Jeep, etc.
>>:
>>: Earle
>>:
>>: "Kate" <Kate@dub.dub.dub.com (please ask)> wrote in message
>>: news:8DOYf.8716$Q7.1499@bignews2.bellsouth.net...
>>: > I don't know what the diesels get but my 05 Libby was getting 16.4 avg,
>>: > running mid grade when I traded it in.
>>: > Only trouble I had with it (a WHOLE 9k miles) was the cd player.
>>: >
>>: > It's a nice little rig so long as you're SURE it's what you want.
>>: > (that there my friend was the voice of experience you just heard)
>>: >
>>: > Kate
>>: > 2O|||||||O6 Rubicon
>>: >
>>: > <eric@rr.com> wrote in message
>>: > news:328732174di0frdjkdjfprln3hrglmemgh@4ax.com...
>>: > : MotorWeek did a bit on it a few weeks back. Basically they said that
>>: > : the increased mpg is negated by the higher cost of diesel (vs regular
>>: > : unleaded).
>>: > :
>>: > : On Wed, 05 Apr 2006 03:48:13 GMT, Mark Perrin <ms.perrin@shaw.ca>
>>: > : wrote:
>>: > :
>>: > : >Any experience with the diesel version? What's the mileage really
>>like?
>>: > : >The consumer reports say not enough data. It's been around for a
>>while
>>: > : >in Europe though so I'm also wondering what the life expectancy is.
>>: > : >
>>: > : >Thanks!
>>: > : >
>>: > : >Mark
>>: >
>>: >
>>:
>>:
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Lon

Spdloader proclaimed:

> I want to go topless... simple as that. Needed a convertible AND 4wd... the
> Liberty couldn't do that.

Just get it up to top speed on a long downhill with a tailwind and run
it into the back end of a tractor/trailer. Quicker than a Sawzall.

Lon

Spdloader proclaimed:

> I want to go topless... simple as that. Needed a convertible AND 4wd... the
> Liberty couldn't do that.

Just get it up to top speed on a long downhill with a tailwind and run
it into the back end of a tractor/trailer. Quicker than a Sawzall.