Dexcool coolant warning
05-21-2007, 07:35 PM
#61
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Re: Dexcool coolant warning
"Stupendous Man" <spam@trap.com> wrote in message
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> > I think you're confusing "silicates" (cleaning agents) with "silica"
> > (quartz).
> > The former is in your dishwasher detergent, the latter at the beach.
> >
> > Actually, I don't know that Dex-Cool even contains silicates:
>
> I think you need to re-read the original post. I switched to dex to
> avoid silicates.
> Prestone has described silicates as powdered quartz, maybe that's
> wrong but that's what their engineer said.
>
More than you ever wanted to know, unless you are a geologist that is:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Silicate
Silicate is the basic building block for almost all kinds of rock. There
are about a zillion different ones, some real soft and some hard like
quartz. Saying that something has "silicate" in it, tells you nothing about
what it will actually do to engine cooling system components. If it had
quartz in it, that would be bad. It wouldn't stay in suspension either, as
far as I know.
The Zerex chart that I posted a link to says that their G-05 is good for
pre-1996 Honda, and their Dex-Cool is good for 1996 and later. For Jeeps
you want Green for pre-2001 and G-05 for 2001 and later. My 1999 Honda
Civic came with Green in it. It now has Honda Genuine blue.
Cheers,
Earle
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> > I think you're confusing "silicates" (cleaning agents) with "silica"
> > (quartz).
> > The former is in your dishwasher detergent, the latter at the beach.
> >
> > Actually, I don't know that Dex-Cool even contains silicates:
>
> I think you need to re-read the original post. I switched to dex to
> avoid silicates.
> Prestone has described silicates as powdered quartz, maybe that's
> wrong but that's what their engineer said.
>
More than you ever wanted to know, unless you are a geologist that is:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Silicate
Silicate is the basic building block for almost all kinds of rock. There
are about a zillion different ones, some real soft and some hard like
quartz. Saying that something has "silicate" in it, tells you nothing about
what it will actually do to engine cooling system components. If it had
quartz in it, that would be bad. It wouldn't stay in suspension either, as
far as I know.
The Zerex chart that I posted a link to says that their G-05 is good for
pre-1996 Honda, and their Dex-Cool is good for 1996 and later. For Jeeps
you want Green for pre-2001 and G-05 for 2001 and later. My 1999 Honda
Civic came with Green in it. It now has Honda Genuine blue.
Cheers,
Earle
05-21-2007, 11:42 PM
#62
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Re: Dexcool coolant warning
Stupendous Man writes:
> Prestone has described silicates as powdered quartz, maybe that's
> wrong but that's what their engineer said.
The only silicate I know of in antifreeze is sodium silicate (water glass),
which inhibits corrosion of aluminum. Same as in automatic dishwasher
detergent. Nothing like quartz.
> Prestone has described silicates as powdered quartz, maybe that's
> wrong but that's what their engineer said.
The only silicate I know of in antifreeze is sodium silicate (water glass),
which inhibits corrosion of aluminum. Same as in automatic dishwasher
detergent. Nothing like quartz.
05-21-2007, 11:42 PM
#63
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Re: Dexcool coolant warning
Stupendous Man writes:
> Prestone has described silicates as powdered quartz, maybe that's
> wrong but that's what their engineer said.
The only silicate I know of in antifreeze is sodium silicate (water glass),
which inhibits corrosion of aluminum. Same as in automatic dishwasher
detergent. Nothing like quartz.
> Prestone has described silicates as powdered quartz, maybe that's
> wrong but that's what their engineer said.
The only silicate I know of in antifreeze is sodium silicate (water glass),
which inhibits corrosion of aluminum. Same as in automatic dishwasher
detergent. Nothing like quartz.
05-21-2007, 11:42 PM
#64
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Re: Dexcool coolant warning
Stupendous Man writes:
> Prestone has described silicates as powdered quartz, maybe that's
> wrong but that's what their engineer said.
The only silicate I know of in antifreeze is sodium silicate (water glass),
which inhibits corrosion of aluminum. Same as in automatic dishwasher
detergent. Nothing like quartz.
> Prestone has described silicates as powdered quartz, maybe that's
> wrong but that's what their engineer said.
The only silicate I know of in antifreeze is sodium silicate (water glass),
which inhibits corrosion of aluminum. Same as in automatic dishwasher
detergent. Nothing like quartz.
05-21-2007, 11:42 PM
#65
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Re: Dexcool coolant warning
Stupendous Man writes:
> Prestone has described silicates as powdered quartz, maybe that's
> wrong but that's what their engineer said.
The only silicate I know of in antifreeze is sodium silicate (water glass),
which inhibits corrosion of aluminum. Same as in automatic dishwasher
detergent. Nothing like quartz.
> Prestone has described silicates as powdered quartz, maybe that's
> wrong but that's what their engineer said.
The only silicate I know of in antifreeze is sodium silicate (water glass),
which inhibits corrosion of aluminum. Same as in automatic dishwasher
detergent. Nothing like quartz.
05-22-2007, 12:04 AM
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Re: Dexcool coolant warning
On Mon, 21 May 2007 17:35:25 -0600, "Earle Horton"
<earle@angloburgues.usa> wrote:
>"Stupendous Man" <spam@trap.com> wrote in message
>Silicate is the basic building block for almost all kinds of rock. There
>are about a zillion different ones, some real soft and some hard like
>quartz.
Oops-just to get picky :>, quartz is not a rock, it's is a mineral.
Sorry, but this old science teacher just couldn't resist....
Dan
>Saying that something has "silicate" in it, tells you nothing about
>what it will actually do to engine cooling system components. If it had
>quartz in it, that would be bad. It wouldn't stay in suspension either, as
>far as I know.
>
>The Zerex chart that I posted a link to says that their G-05 is good for
>pre-1996 Honda, and their Dex-Cool is good for 1996 and later. For Jeeps
>you want Green for pre-2001 and G-05 for 2001 and later. My 1999 Honda
>Civic came with Green in it. It now has Honda Genuine blue.
>
>Cheers,
>
>Earle
>
<earle@angloburgues.usa> wrote:
>"Stupendous Man" <spam@trap.com> wrote in message
>Silicate is the basic building block for almost all kinds of rock. There
>are about a zillion different ones, some real soft and some hard like
>quartz.
Oops-just to get picky :>, quartz is not a rock, it's is a mineral.
Sorry, but this old science teacher just couldn't resist....
Dan
>Saying that something has "silicate" in it, tells you nothing about
>what it will actually do to engine cooling system components. If it had
>quartz in it, that would be bad. It wouldn't stay in suspension either, as
>far as I know.
>
>The Zerex chart that I posted a link to says that their G-05 is good for
>pre-1996 Honda, and their Dex-Cool is good for 1996 and later. For Jeeps
>you want Green for pre-2001 and G-05 for 2001 and later. My 1999 Honda
>Civic came with Green in it. It now has Honda Genuine blue.
>
>Cheers,
>
>Earle
>
05-22-2007, 12:04 AM
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Re: Dexcool coolant warning
On Mon, 21 May 2007 17:35:25 -0600, "Earle Horton"
<earle@angloburgues.usa> wrote:
>"Stupendous Man" <spam@trap.com> wrote in message
>Silicate is the basic building block for almost all kinds of rock. There
>are about a zillion different ones, some real soft and some hard like
>quartz.
Oops-just to get picky :>, quartz is not a rock, it's is a mineral.
Sorry, but this old science teacher just couldn't resist....
Dan
>Saying that something has "silicate" in it, tells you nothing about
>what it will actually do to engine cooling system components. If it had
>quartz in it, that would be bad. It wouldn't stay in suspension either, as
>far as I know.
>
>The Zerex chart that I posted a link to says that their G-05 is good for
>pre-1996 Honda, and their Dex-Cool is good for 1996 and later. For Jeeps
>you want Green for pre-2001 and G-05 for 2001 and later. My 1999 Honda
>Civic came with Green in it. It now has Honda Genuine blue.
>
>Cheers,
>
>Earle
>
<earle@angloburgues.usa> wrote:
>"Stupendous Man" <spam@trap.com> wrote in message
>Silicate is the basic building block for almost all kinds of rock. There
>are about a zillion different ones, some real soft and some hard like
>quartz.
Oops-just to get picky :>, quartz is not a rock, it's is a mineral.
Sorry, but this old science teacher just couldn't resist....
Dan
>Saying that something has "silicate" in it, tells you nothing about
>what it will actually do to engine cooling system components. If it had
>quartz in it, that would be bad. It wouldn't stay in suspension either, as
>far as I know.
>
>The Zerex chart that I posted a link to says that their G-05 is good for
>pre-1996 Honda, and their Dex-Cool is good for 1996 and later. For Jeeps
>you want Green for pre-2001 and G-05 for 2001 and later. My 1999 Honda
>Civic came with Green in it. It now has Honda Genuine blue.
>
>Cheers,
>
>Earle
>
05-22-2007, 12:04 AM
#68
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Re: Dexcool coolant warning
On Mon, 21 May 2007 17:35:25 -0600, "Earle Horton"
<earle@angloburgues.usa> wrote:
>"Stupendous Man" <spam@trap.com> wrote in message
>Silicate is the basic building block for almost all kinds of rock. There
>are about a zillion different ones, some real soft and some hard like
>quartz.
Oops-just to get picky :>, quartz is not a rock, it's is a mineral.
Sorry, but this old science teacher just couldn't resist....
Dan
>Saying that something has "silicate" in it, tells you nothing about
>what it will actually do to engine cooling system components. If it had
>quartz in it, that would be bad. It wouldn't stay in suspension either, as
>far as I know.
>
>The Zerex chart that I posted a link to says that their G-05 is good for
>pre-1996 Honda, and their Dex-Cool is good for 1996 and later. For Jeeps
>you want Green for pre-2001 and G-05 for 2001 and later. My 1999 Honda
>Civic came with Green in it. It now has Honda Genuine blue.
>
>Cheers,
>
>Earle
>
<earle@angloburgues.usa> wrote:
>"Stupendous Man" <spam@trap.com> wrote in message
>Silicate is the basic building block for almost all kinds of rock. There
>are about a zillion different ones, some real soft and some hard like
>quartz.
Oops-just to get picky :>, quartz is not a rock, it's is a mineral.
Sorry, but this old science teacher just couldn't resist....
Dan
>Saying that something has "silicate" in it, tells you nothing about
>what it will actually do to engine cooling system components. If it had
>quartz in it, that would be bad. It wouldn't stay in suspension either, as
>far as I know.
>
>The Zerex chart that I posted a link to says that their G-05 is good for
>pre-1996 Honda, and their Dex-Cool is good for 1996 and later. For Jeeps
>you want Green for pre-2001 and G-05 for 2001 and later. My 1999 Honda
>Civic came with Green in it. It now has Honda Genuine blue.
>
>Cheers,
>
>Earle
>
05-22-2007, 12:04 AM
#69
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Re: Dexcool coolant warning
On Mon, 21 May 2007 17:35:25 -0600, "Earle Horton"
<earle@angloburgues.usa> wrote:
>"Stupendous Man" <spam@trap.com> wrote in message
>Silicate is the basic building block for almost all kinds of rock. There
>are about a zillion different ones, some real soft and some hard like
>quartz.
Oops-just to get picky :>, quartz is not a rock, it's is a mineral.
Sorry, but this old science teacher just couldn't resist....
Dan
>Saying that something has "silicate" in it, tells you nothing about
>what it will actually do to engine cooling system components. If it had
>quartz in it, that would be bad. It wouldn't stay in suspension either, as
>far as I know.
>
>The Zerex chart that I posted a link to says that their G-05 is good for
>pre-1996 Honda, and their Dex-Cool is good for 1996 and later. For Jeeps
>you want Green for pre-2001 and G-05 for 2001 and later. My 1999 Honda
>Civic came with Green in it. It now has Honda Genuine blue.
>
>Cheers,
>
>Earle
>
<earle@angloburgues.usa> wrote:
>"Stupendous Man" <spam@trap.com> wrote in message
>Silicate is the basic building block for almost all kinds of rock. There
>are about a zillion different ones, some real soft and some hard like
>quartz.
Oops-just to get picky :>, quartz is not a rock, it's is a mineral.
Sorry, but this old science teacher just couldn't resist....
Dan
>Saying that something has "silicate" in it, tells you nothing about
>what it will actually do to engine cooling system components. If it had
>quartz in it, that would be bad. It wouldn't stay in suspension either, as
>far as I know.
>
>The Zerex chart that I posted a link to says that their G-05 is good for
>pre-1996 Honda, and their Dex-Cool is good for 1996 and later. For Jeeps
>you want Green for pre-2001 and G-05 for 2001 and later. My 1999 Honda
>Civic came with Green in it. It now has Honda Genuine blue.
>
>Cheers,
>
>Earle
>
05-22-2007, 11:33 AM
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Re: Dexcool coolant warning
"Hootowl" <ELN/zooo@earthlink.net> wrote in message
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> On Mon, 21 May 2007 17:35:25 -0600, "Earle Horton"
> <earle@angloburgues.usa> wrote:
>
> >"Stupendous Man" <spam@trap.com> wrote in message
>
>
> >Silicate is the basic building block for almost all kinds of rock. There
> >are about a zillion different ones, some real soft and some hard like
> >quartz.
>
> Oops-just to get picky :>, quartz is not a rock, it's is a mineral.
> Sorry, but this old science teacher just couldn't resist....
"Rock: aggregation of solid matter composed of one or more of the minerals
forming the earth's crust"
http://www.bartleby.com/65/ro/rock.html
Quartz is a mineral, that can be formed into rocks. Most people wouldn't
pay any attention to the difference, if there is one. Besides, if you look
closely, I wasn't saying that quartz is a rock, only that it is hard.
Earle
news:7mq453t71s98na7i9kfr7j4jit9nm7he57@4ax.com...
> On Mon, 21 May 2007 17:35:25 -0600, "Earle Horton"
> <earle@angloburgues.usa> wrote:
>
> >"Stupendous Man" <spam@trap.com> wrote in message
>
>
> >Silicate is the basic building block for almost all kinds of rock. There
> >are about a zillion different ones, some real soft and some hard like
> >quartz.
>
> Oops-just to get picky :>, quartz is not a rock, it's is a mineral.
> Sorry, but this old science teacher just couldn't resist....
"Rock: aggregation of solid matter composed of one or more of the minerals
forming the earth's crust"
http://www.bartleby.com/65/ro/rock.html
Quartz is a mineral, that can be formed into rocks. Most people wouldn't
pay any attention to the difference, if there is one. Besides, if you look
closely, I wasn't saying that quartz is a rock, only that it is hard.
Earle
