Dana 30 gear noise
07-13-2005, 09:26 PM
#51
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Re: Dana 30 gear noise
Without axles? Sheesh, then it's really too loose since it's taking less
than thirty to spin the whole shebang, wheels and tires included.
/Peter
"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:42D5B2A9.F685C79A@***.net...
> When you remove the nut make sure it hasn't bottomed out as the
> yoke should have easily slid up to where the old one was up against the
> bearing to crush sleeve. That would be thirty inch pounds without axles,
> for pinion test.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Peter Pontbriand wrote:
> >
> > Hmm. I think I'll remove the nut and use some blue Loc-Tite then.
> >
> > All I did on the weekend was install the yoke and tighten the nut to 160
> > lbs-ft. Just now I removed the drive shaft again and turned the pinion
with
> > my lbs-in torque wrench set to 30 with no clicks, so it needs to be
tighter.
> > I think there's even a bit of play in it, but its hard to tell what's
lash
> > and what play. Unfortunately now I have to wait for a helper with
stronger
> > legs than my six-year-old - he can't push on the brake pedal hard enough
to
> > stop the wheels from spinning when I turn the pinion nut.
> >
> > /Peter
> >
> > "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
> > news:42D5A772.6837BD56@***.net...
> > > Hi Peter,
> > > I never have, but then I've heard of many that have loosened. If
> > > you have pinion bearing play the the yoke you have is not sliding up
> > > hard against the bearing like the previous one did, as the crush
sleeve
> > > separating the bearings is naturally in-between them. Have you hit it
> > > with an impact, and walked it on down? being careful in feeling with
the
> > > other hand for when it begins to snug up.
> > > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> > > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> > >
> > > Peter Pontbriand wrote:
> > > >
> > > > The pinion nut is some sort of stover nut, but it's been re-used a
> > couple of
> > > > times. Should I be putting some sort of Loc-Tite on it? Red or Blue?
> > > >
> > > > /Peter
than thirty to spin the whole shebang, wheels and tires included.
/Peter
"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:42D5B2A9.F685C79A@***.net...
> When you remove the nut make sure it hasn't bottomed out as the
> yoke should have easily slid up to where the old one was up against the
> bearing to crush sleeve. That would be thirty inch pounds without axles,
> for pinion test.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Peter Pontbriand wrote:
> >
> > Hmm. I think I'll remove the nut and use some blue Loc-Tite then.
> >
> > All I did on the weekend was install the yoke and tighten the nut to 160
> > lbs-ft. Just now I removed the drive shaft again and turned the pinion
with
> > my lbs-in torque wrench set to 30 with no clicks, so it needs to be
tighter.
> > I think there's even a bit of play in it, but its hard to tell what's
lash
> > and what play. Unfortunately now I have to wait for a helper with
stronger
> > legs than my six-year-old - he can't push on the brake pedal hard enough
to
> > stop the wheels from spinning when I turn the pinion nut.
> >
> > /Peter
> >
> > "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
> > news:42D5A772.6837BD56@***.net...
> > > Hi Peter,
> > > I never have, but then I've heard of many that have loosened. If
> > > you have pinion bearing play the the yoke you have is not sliding up
> > > hard against the bearing like the previous one did, as the crush
sleeve
> > > separating the bearings is naturally in-between them. Have you hit it
> > > with an impact, and walked it on down? being careful in feeling with
the
> > > other hand for when it begins to snug up.
> > > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> > > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> > >
> > > Peter Pontbriand wrote:
> > > >
> > > > The pinion nut is some sort of stover nut, but it's been re-used a
> > couple of
> > > > times. Should I be putting some sort of Loc-Tite on it? Red or Blue?
> > > >
> > > > /Peter
07-13-2005, 09:26 PM
#52
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Re: Dana 30 gear noise
Without axles? Sheesh, then it's really too loose since it's taking less
than thirty to spin the whole shebang, wheels and tires included.
/Peter
"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:42D5B2A9.F685C79A@***.net...
> When you remove the nut make sure it hasn't bottomed out as the
> yoke should have easily slid up to where the old one was up against the
> bearing to crush sleeve. That would be thirty inch pounds without axles,
> for pinion test.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Peter Pontbriand wrote:
> >
> > Hmm. I think I'll remove the nut and use some blue Loc-Tite then.
> >
> > All I did on the weekend was install the yoke and tighten the nut to 160
> > lbs-ft. Just now I removed the drive shaft again and turned the pinion
with
> > my lbs-in torque wrench set to 30 with no clicks, so it needs to be
tighter.
> > I think there's even a bit of play in it, but its hard to tell what's
lash
> > and what play. Unfortunately now I have to wait for a helper with
stronger
> > legs than my six-year-old - he can't push on the brake pedal hard enough
to
> > stop the wheels from spinning when I turn the pinion nut.
> >
> > /Peter
> >
> > "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
> > news:42D5A772.6837BD56@***.net...
> > > Hi Peter,
> > > I never have, but then I've heard of many that have loosened. If
> > > you have pinion bearing play the the yoke you have is not sliding up
> > > hard against the bearing like the previous one did, as the crush
sleeve
> > > separating the bearings is naturally in-between them. Have you hit it
> > > with an impact, and walked it on down? being careful in feeling with
the
> > > other hand for when it begins to snug up.
> > > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> > > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> > >
> > > Peter Pontbriand wrote:
> > > >
> > > > The pinion nut is some sort of stover nut, but it's been re-used a
> > couple of
> > > > times. Should I be putting some sort of Loc-Tite on it? Red or Blue?
> > > >
> > > > /Peter
than thirty to spin the whole shebang, wheels and tires included.
/Peter
"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:42D5B2A9.F685C79A@***.net...
> When you remove the nut make sure it hasn't bottomed out as the
> yoke should have easily slid up to where the old one was up against the
> bearing to crush sleeve. That would be thirty inch pounds without axles,
> for pinion test.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Peter Pontbriand wrote:
> >
> > Hmm. I think I'll remove the nut and use some blue Loc-Tite then.
> >
> > All I did on the weekend was install the yoke and tighten the nut to 160
> > lbs-ft. Just now I removed the drive shaft again and turned the pinion
with
> > my lbs-in torque wrench set to 30 with no clicks, so it needs to be
tighter.
> > I think there's even a bit of play in it, but its hard to tell what's
lash
> > and what play. Unfortunately now I have to wait for a helper with
stronger
> > legs than my six-year-old - he can't push on the brake pedal hard enough
to
> > stop the wheels from spinning when I turn the pinion nut.
> >
> > /Peter
> >
> > "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
> > news:42D5A772.6837BD56@***.net...
> > > Hi Peter,
> > > I never have, but then I've heard of many that have loosened. If
> > > you have pinion bearing play the the yoke you have is not sliding up
> > > hard against the bearing like the previous one did, as the crush
sleeve
> > > separating the bearings is naturally in-between them. Have you hit it
> > > with an impact, and walked it on down? being careful in feeling with
the
> > > other hand for when it begins to snug up.
> > > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> > > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> > >
> > > Peter Pontbriand wrote:
> > > >
> > > > The pinion nut is some sort of stover nut, but it's been re-used a
> > couple of
> > > > times. Should I be putting some sort of Loc-Tite on it? Red or Blue?
> > > >
> > > > /Peter
07-13-2005, 09:26 PM
#53
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Re: Dana 30 gear noise
Without axles? Sheesh, then it's really too loose since it's taking less
than thirty to spin the whole shebang, wheels and tires included.
/Peter
"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:42D5B2A9.F685C79A@***.net...
> When you remove the nut make sure it hasn't bottomed out as the
> yoke should have easily slid up to where the old one was up against the
> bearing to crush sleeve. That would be thirty inch pounds without axles,
> for pinion test.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Peter Pontbriand wrote:
> >
> > Hmm. I think I'll remove the nut and use some blue Loc-Tite then.
> >
> > All I did on the weekend was install the yoke and tighten the nut to 160
> > lbs-ft. Just now I removed the drive shaft again and turned the pinion
with
> > my lbs-in torque wrench set to 30 with no clicks, so it needs to be
tighter.
> > I think there's even a bit of play in it, but its hard to tell what's
lash
> > and what play. Unfortunately now I have to wait for a helper with
stronger
> > legs than my six-year-old - he can't push on the brake pedal hard enough
to
> > stop the wheels from spinning when I turn the pinion nut.
> >
> > /Peter
> >
> > "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
> > news:42D5A772.6837BD56@***.net...
> > > Hi Peter,
> > > I never have, but then I've heard of many that have loosened. If
> > > you have pinion bearing play the the yoke you have is not sliding up
> > > hard against the bearing like the previous one did, as the crush
sleeve
> > > separating the bearings is naturally in-between them. Have you hit it
> > > with an impact, and walked it on down? being careful in feeling with
the
> > > other hand for when it begins to snug up.
> > > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> > > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> > >
> > > Peter Pontbriand wrote:
> > > >
> > > > The pinion nut is some sort of stover nut, but it's been re-used a
> > couple of
> > > > times. Should I be putting some sort of Loc-Tite on it? Red or Blue?
> > > >
> > > > /Peter
than thirty to spin the whole shebang, wheels and tires included.
/Peter
"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:42D5B2A9.F685C79A@***.net...
> When you remove the nut make sure it hasn't bottomed out as the
> yoke should have easily slid up to where the old one was up against the
> bearing to crush sleeve. That would be thirty inch pounds without axles,
> for pinion test.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Peter Pontbriand wrote:
> >
> > Hmm. I think I'll remove the nut and use some blue Loc-Tite then.
> >
> > All I did on the weekend was install the yoke and tighten the nut to 160
> > lbs-ft. Just now I removed the drive shaft again and turned the pinion
with
> > my lbs-in torque wrench set to 30 with no clicks, so it needs to be
tighter.
> > I think there's even a bit of play in it, but its hard to tell what's
lash
> > and what play. Unfortunately now I have to wait for a helper with
stronger
> > legs than my six-year-old - he can't push on the brake pedal hard enough
to
> > stop the wheels from spinning when I turn the pinion nut.
> >
> > /Peter
> >
> > "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
> > news:42D5A772.6837BD56@***.net...
> > > Hi Peter,
> > > I never have, but then I've heard of many that have loosened. If
> > > you have pinion bearing play the the yoke you have is not sliding up
> > > hard against the bearing like the previous one did, as the crush
sleeve
> > > separating the bearings is naturally in-between them. Have you hit it
> > > with an impact, and walked it on down? being careful in feeling with
the
> > > other hand for when it begins to snug up.
> > > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> > > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> > >
> > > Peter Pontbriand wrote:
> > > >
> > > > The pinion nut is some sort of stover nut, but it's been re-used a
> > couple of
> > > > times. Should I be putting some sort of Loc-Tite on it? Red or Blue?
> > > >
> > > > /Peter
07-13-2005, 10:28 PM
#54
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Re: Dana 30 gear noise
EWWWWW!!!!!!!!!!!
Steve wrote:
>I use one like this:
>
> http://www.performancebike.com/shop/....cfm?SKU=11387
>
>Steve
>http://xjeep.dyndns.org
>
>> A dial type torque wrench would be better for this sort of thing.
>>
>[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
>>>
>>>/Peter
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Steve wrote:
>I use one like this:
>
> http://www.performancebike.com/shop/....cfm?SKU=11387
>
>Steve
>http://xjeep.dyndns.org
>
>> A dial type torque wrench would be better for this sort of thing.
>>
>[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
>>>
>>>/Peter
--
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07-13-2005, 10:28 PM
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Re: Dana 30 gear noise
EWWWWW!!!!!!!!!!!
Steve wrote:
>I use one like this:
>
> http://www.performancebike.com/shop/....cfm?SKU=11387
>
>Steve
>http://xjeep.dyndns.org
>
>> A dial type torque wrench would be better for this sort of thing.
>>
>[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
>>>
>>>/Peter
--
Message posted via http://www.carkb.com
Steve wrote:
>I use one like this:
>
> http://www.performancebike.com/shop/....cfm?SKU=11387
>
>Steve
>http://xjeep.dyndns.org
>
>> A dial type torque wrench would be better for this sort of thing.
>>
>[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
>>>
>>>/Peter
--
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07-13-2005, 10:28 PM
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Re: Dana 30 gear noise
EWWWWW!!!!!!!!!!!
Steve wrote:
>I use one like this:
>
> http://www.performancebike.com/shop/....cfm?SKU=11387
>
>Steve
>http://xjeep.dyndns.org
>
>> A dial type torque wrench would be better for this sort of thing.
>>
>[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
>>>
>>>/Peter
--
Message posted via http://www.carkb.com
Steve wrote:
>I use one like this:
>
> http://www.performancebike.com/shop/....cfm?SKU=11387
>
>Steve
>http://xjeep.dyndns.org
>
>> A dial type torque wrench would be better for this sort of thing.
>>
>[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
>>>
>>>/Peter
--
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07-13-2005, 10:28 PM
#57
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Re: Dana 30 gear noise
EWWWWW!!!!!!!!!!!
Steve wrote:
>I use one like this:
>
> http://www.performancebike.com/shop/....cfm?SKU=11387
>
>Steve
>http://xjeep.dyndns.org
>
>> A dial type torque wrench would be better for this sort of thing.
>>
>[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
>>>
>>>/Peter
--
Message posted via http://www.carkb.com
Steve wrote:
>I use one like this:
>
> http://www.performancebike.com/shop/....cfm?SKU=11387
>
>Steve
>http://xjeep.dyndns.org
>
>> A dial type torque wrench would be better for this sort of thing.
>>
>[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
>>>
>>>/Peter
--
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07-13-2005, 10:43 PM
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Re: Dana 30 gear noise
Wait a sec, with the axles out I've no way to stop the pinion gear from
turning while I tighten the nut - I'm using the brakes for that. This is a
ZJ with a CV yoke thats perfectly round, no flat spots for a wrench of any
sort. Naturally, I don't have the fancy tool in the FSM for holding the
yoke.
Surely I can't be expected to remove the brake calipers, hubs, and axle
shafts to measure pinion preload, then put them all back on to tighten the
nut, then do it over again a bunch of times until it's right?
/Peter
"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:42D5B2A9.F685C79A@***.net...
> When you remove the nut make sure it hasn't bottomed out as the
> yoke should have easily slid up to where the old one was up against the
> bearing to crush sleeve. That would be thirty inch pounds without axles,
> for pinion test.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Peter Pontbriand wrote:
> >
> > Hmm. I think I'll remove the nut and use some blue Loc-Tite then.
> >
> > All I did on the weekend was install the yoke and tighten the nut to 160
> > lbs-ft. Just now I removed the drive shaft again and turned the pinion
with
> > my lbs-in torque wrench set to 30 with no clicks, so it needs to be
tighter.
> > I think there's even a bit of play in it, but its hard to tell what's
lash
> > and what play. Unfortunately now I have to wait for a helper with
stronger
> > legs than my six-year-old - he can't push on the brake pedal hard enough
to
> > stop the wheels from spinning when I turn the pinion nut.
> >
> > /Peter
> >
> > "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
> > news:42D5A772.6837BD56@***.net...
> > > Hi Peter,
> > > I never have, but then I've heard of many that have loosened. If
> > > you have pinion bearing play the the yoke you have is not sliding up
> > > hard against the bearing like the previous one did, as the crush
sleeve
> > > separating the bearings is naturally in-between them. Have you hit it
> > > with an impact, and walked it on down? being careful in feeling with
the
> > > other hand for when it begins to snug up.
> > > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> > > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> > >
> > > Peter Pontbriand wrote:
> > > >
> > > > The pinion nut is some sort of stover nut, but it's been re-used a
> > couple of
> > > > times. Should I be putting some sort of Loc-Tite on it? Red or Blue?
> > > >
> > > > /Peter
turning while I tighten the nut - I'm using the brakes for that. This is a
ZJ with a CV yoke thats perfectly round, no flat spots for a wrench of any
sort. Naturally, I don't have the fancy tool in the FSM for holding the
yoke.
Surely I can't be expected to remove the brake calipers, hubs, and axle
shafts to measure pinion preload, then put them all back on to tighten the
nut, then do it over again a bunch of times until it's right?
/Peter
"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:42D5B2A9.F685C79A@***.net...
> When you remove the nut make sure it hasn't bottomed out as the
> yoke should have easily slid up to where the old one was up against the
> bearing to crush sleeve. That would be thirty inch pounds without axles,
> for pinion test.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Peter Pontbriand wrote:
> >
> > Hmm. I think I'll remove the nut and use some blue Loc-Tite then.
> >
> > All I did on the weekend was install the yoke and tighten the nut to 160
> > lbs-ft. Just now I removed the drive shaft again and turned the pinion
with
> > my lbs-in torque wrench set to 30 with no clicks, so it needs to be
tighter.
> > I think there's even a bit of play in it, but its hard to tell what's
lash
> > and what play. Unfortunately now I have to wait for a helper with
stronger
> > legs than my six-year-old - he can't push on the brake pedal hard enough
to
> > stop the wheels from spinning when I turn the pinion nut.
> >
> > /Peter
> >
> > "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
> > news:42D5A772.6837BD56@***.net...
> > > Hi Peter,
> > > I never have, but then I've heard of many that have loosened. If
> > > you have pinion bearing play the the yoke you have is not sliding up
> > > hard against the bearing like the previous one did, as the crush
sleeve
> > > separating the bearings is naturally in-between them. Have you hit it
> > > with an impact, and walked it on down? being careful in feeling with
the
> > > other hand for when it begins to snug up.
> > > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> > > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> > >
> > > Peter Pontbriand wrote:
> > > >
> > > > The pinion nut is some sort of stover nut, but it's been re-used a
> > couple of
> > > > times. Should I be putting some sort of Loc-Tite on it? Red or Blue?
> > > >
> > > > /Peter
07-13-2005, 10:43 PM
#59
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Re: Dana 30 gear noise
Wait a sec, with the axles out I've no way to stop the pinion gear from
turning while I tighten the nut - I'm using the brakes for that. This is a
ZJ with a CV yoke thats perfectly round, no flat spots for a wrench of any
sort. Naturally, I don't have the fancy tool in the FSM for holding the
yoke.
Surely I can't be expected to remove the brake calipers, hubs, and axle
shafts to measure pinion preload, then put them all back on to tighten the
nut, then do it over again a bunch of times until it's right?
/Peter
"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:42D5B2A9.F685C79A@***.net...
> When you remove the nut make sure it hasn't bottomed out as the
> yoke should have easily slid up to where the old one was up against the
> bearing to crush sleeve. That would be thirty inch pounds without axles,
> for pinion test.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Peter Pontbriand wrote:
> >
> > Hmm. I think I'll remove the nut and use some blue Loc-Tite then.
> >
> > All I did on the weekend was install the yoke and tighten the nut to 160
> > lbs-ft. Just now I removed the drive shaft again and turned the pinion
with
> > my lbs-in torque wrench set to 30 with no clicks, so it needs to be
tighter.
> > I think there's even a bit of play in it, but its hard to tell what's
lash
> > and what play. Unfortunately now I have to wait for a helper with
stronger
> > legs than my six-year-old - he can't push on the brake pedal hard enough
to
> > stop the wheels from spinning when I turn the pinion nut.
> >
> > /Peter
> >
> > "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
> > news:42D5A772.6837BD56@***.net...
> > > Hi Peter,
> > > I never have, but then I've heard of many that have loosened. If
> > > you have pinion bearing play the the yoke you have is not sliding up
> > > hard against the bearing like the previous one did, as the crush
sleeve
> > > separating the bearings is naturally in-between them. Have you hit it
> > > with an impact, and walked it on down? being careful in feeling with
the
> > > other hand for when it begins to snug up.
> > > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> > > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> > >
> > > Peter Pontbriand wrote:
> > > >
> > > > The pinion nut is some sort of stover nut, but it's been re-used a
> > couple of
> > > > times. Should I be putting some sort of Loc-Tite on it? Red or Blue?
> > > >
> > > > /Peter
turning while I tighten the nut - I'm using the brakes for that. This is a
ZJ with a CV yoke thats perfectly round, no flat spots for a wrench of any
sort. Naturally, I don't have the fancy tool in the FSM for holding the
yoke.
Surely I can't be expected to remove the brake calipers, hubs, and axle
shafts to measure pinion preload, then put them all back on to tighten the
nut, then do it over again a bunch of times until it's right?
/Peter
"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:42D5B2A9.F685C79A@***.net...
> When you remove the nut make sure it hasn't bottomed out as the
> yoke should have easily slid up to where the old one was up against the
> bearing to crush sleeve. That would be thirty inch pounds without axles,
> for pinion test.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Peter Pontbriand wrote:
> >
> > Hmm. I think I'll remove the nut and use some blue Loc-Tite then.
> >
> > All I did on the weekend was install the yoke and tighten the nut to 160
> > lbs-ft. Just now I removed the drive shaft again and turned the pinion
with
> > my lbs-in torque wrench set to 30 with no clicks, so it needs to be
tighter.
> > I think there's even a bit of play in it, but its hard to tell what's
lash
> > and what play. Unfortunately now I have to wait for a helper with
stronger
> > legs than my six-year-old - he can't push on the brake pedal hard enough
to
> > stop the wheels from spinning when I turn the pinion nut.
> >
> > /Peter
> >
> > "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
> > news:42D5A772.6837BD56@***.net...
> > > Hi Peter,
> > > I never have, but then I've heard of many that have loosened. If
> > > you have pinion bearing play the the yoke you have is not sliding up
> > > hard against the bearing like the previous one did, as the crush
sleeve
> > > separating the bearings is naturally in-between them. Have you hit it
> > > with an impact, and walked it on down? being careful in feeling with
the
> > > other hand for when it begins to snug up.
> > > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> > > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> > >
> > > Peter Pontbriand wrote:
> > > >
> > > > The pinion nut is some sort of stover nut, but it's been re-used a
> > couple of
> > > > times. Should I be putting some sort of Loc-Tite on it? Red or Blue?
> > > >
> > > > /Peter
07-13-2005, 10:43 PM
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Re: Dana 30 gear noise
Wait a sec, with the axles out I've no way to stop the pinion gear from
turning while I tighten the nut - I'm using the brakes for that. This is a
ZJ with a CV yoke thats perfectly round, no flat spots for a wrench of any
sort. Naturally, I don't have the fancy tool in the FSM for holding the
yoke.
Surely I can't be expected to remove the brake calipers, hubs, and axle
shafts to measure pinion preload, then put them all back on to tighten the
nut, then do it over again a bunch of times until it's right?
/Peter
"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:42D5B2A9.F685C79A@***.net...
> When you remove the nut make sure it hasn't bottomed out as the
> yoke should have easily slid up to where the old one was up against the
> bearing to crush sleeve. That would be thirty inch pounds without axles,
> for pinion test.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Peter Pontbriand wrote:
> >
> > Hmm. I think I'll remove the nut and use some blue Loc-Tite then.
> >
> > All I did on the weekend was install the yoke and tighten the nut to 160
> > lbs-ft. Just now I removed the drive shaft again and turned the pinion
with
> > my lbs-in torque wrench set to 30 with no clicks, so it needs to be
tighter.
> > I think there's even a bit of play in it, but its hard to tell what's
lash
> > and what play. Unfortunately now I have to wait for a helper with
stronger
> > legs than my six-year-old - he can't push on the brake pedal hard enough
to
> > stop the wheels from spinning when I turn the pinion nut.
> >
> > /Peter
> >
> > "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
> > news:42D5A772.6837BD56@***.net...
> > > Hi Peter,
> > > I never have, but then I've heard of many that have loosened. If
> > > you have pinion bearing play the the yoke you have is not sliding up
> > > hard against the bearing like the previous one did, as the crush
sleeve
> > > separating the bearings is naturally in-between them. Have you hit it
> > > with an impact, and walked it on down? being careful in feeling with
the
> > > other hand for when it begins to snug up.
> > > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> > > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> > >
> > > Peter Pontbriand wrote:
> > > >
> > > > The pinion nut is some sort of stover nut, but it's been re-used a
> > couple of
> > > > times. Should I be putting some sort of Loc-Tite on it? Red or Blue?
> > > >
> > > > /Peter
turning while I tighten the nut - I'm using the brakes for that. This is a
ZJ with a CV yoke thats perfectly round, no flat spots for a wrench of any
sort. Naturally, I don't have the fancy tool in the FSM for holding the
yoke.
Surely I can't be expected to remove the brake calipers, hubs, and axle
shafts to measure pinion preload, then put them all back on to tighten the
nut, then do it over again a bunch of times until it's right?
/Peter
"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:42D5B2A9.F685C79A@***.net...
> When you remove the nut make sure it hasn't bottomed out as the
> yoke should have easily slid up to where the old one was up against the
> bearing to crush sleeve. That would be thirty inch pounds without axles,
> for pinion test.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Peter Pontbriand wrote:
> >
> > Hmm. I think I'll remove the nut and use some blue Loc-Tite then.
> >
> > All I did on the weekend was install the yoke and tighten the nut to 160
> > lbs-ft. Just now I removed the drive shaft again and turned the pinion
with
> > my lbs-in torque wrench set to 30 with no clicks, so it needs to be
tighter.
> > I think there's even a bit of play in it, but its hard to tell what's
lash
> > and what play. Unfortunately now I have to wait for a helper with
stronger
> > legs than my six-year-old - he can't push on the brake pedal hard enough
to
> > stop the wheels from spinning when I turn the pinion nut.
> >
> > /Peter
> >
> > "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
> > news:42D5A772.6837BD56@***.net...
> > > Hi Peter,
> > > I never have, but then I've heard of many that have loosened. If
> > > you have pinion bearing play the the yoke you have is not sliding up
> > > hard against the bearing like the previous one did, as the crush
sleeve
> > > separating the bearings is naturally in-between them. Have you hit it
> > > with an impact, and walked it on down? being careful in feeling with
the
> > > other hand for when it begins to snug up.
> > > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> > > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> > >
> > > Peter Pontbriand wrote:
> > > >
> > > > The pinion nut is some sort of stover nut, but it's been re-used a
> > couple of
> > > > times. Should I be putting some sort of Loc-Tite on it? Red or Blue?
> > > >
> > > > /Peter