D35c to Ford 8.8 Swap. Why bother?
10-24-2003, 08:59 PM
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Re: D35c to Ford 8.8 Swap. Why bother?
Hi Greg,
Be sure and use the palm of your hand to push the grease through
the bearing to pack them, if they came with the regular inner seal,
indicating they are not lubed by the differential lube, like the
Jeepettes.
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Greg wrote:
>
> Nice to here since I just placed an order yesterday for Yukon one peice
> axles for my AMC 20
Be sure and use the palm of your hand to push the grease through
the bearing to pack them, if they came with the regular inner seal,
indicating they are not lubed by the differential lube, like the
Jeepettes.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Greg wrote:
>
> Nice to here since I just placed an order yesterday for Yukon one peice
> axles for my AMC 20
10-25-2003, 02:37 AM
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Re: D35c to Ford 8.8 Swap. Why bother?
L.W.(ßill) ------ III wrote:
>Hi Mike,
> They're just blocks that bolt over the now pressed on bearing to
>keep them from sliding out: http://www.precisiongear.com/cclip.htm The
>Ford axle is 1.32" opposed to Chrysler, Daimler's idea of 1.16", so
>they'll probably take the power of an old Rambler engine.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
>mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
Thanks for the link Bill.
Appreciate it.
Mike
98 TJ SE
3" Redneck Engineering Lift, 30 x 9.5 BFG ATs
A bunch of home-made stuff.
>Hi Mike,
> They're just blocks that bolt over the now pressed on bearing to
>keep them from sliding out: http://www.precisiongear.com/cclip.htm The
>Ford axle is 1.32" opposed to Chrysler, Daimler's idea of 1.16", so
>they'll probably take the power of an old Rambler engine.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
>mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
Thanks for the link Bill.
Appreciate it.
Mike
98 TJ SE
3" Redneck Engineering Lift, 30 x 9.5 BFG ATs
A bunch of home-made stuff.
10-25-2003, 02:37 AM
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Re: D35c to Ford 8.8 Swap. Why bother?
L.W.(ßill) ------ III wrote:
>Hi Mike,
> They're just blocks that bolt over the now pressed on bearing to
>keep them from sliding out: http://www.precisiongear.com/cclip.htm The
>Ford axle is 1.32" opposed to Chrysler, Daimler's idea of 1.16", so
>they'll probably take the power of an old Rambler engine.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
>mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
Thanks for the link Bill.
Appreciate it.
Mike
98 TJ SE
3" Redneck Engineering Lift, 30 x 9.5 BFG ATs
A bunch of home-made stuff.
>Hi Mike,
> They're just blocks that bolt over the now pressed on bearing to
>keep them from sliding out: http://www.precisiongear.com/cclip.htm The
>Ford axle is 1.32" opposed to Chrysler, Daimler's idea of 1.16", so
>they'll probably take the power of an old Rambler engine.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
>mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
Thanks for the link Bill.
Appreciate it.
Mike
98 TJ SE
3" Redneck Engineering Lift, 30 x 9.5 BFG ATs
A bunch of home-made stuff.
10-25-2003, 02:37 AM
#34
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Re: D35c to Ford 8.8 Swap. Why bother?
L.W.(ßill) ------ III wrote:
>Hi Mike,
> They're just blocks that bolt over the now pressed on bearing to
>keep them from sliding out: http://www.precisiongear.com/cclip.htm The
>Ford axle is 1.32" opposed to Chrysler, Daimler's idea of 1.16", so
>they'll probably take the power of an old Rambler engine.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
>mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
Thanks for the link Bill.
Appreciate it.
Mike
98 TJ SE
3" Redneck Engineering Lift, 30 x 9.5 BFG ATs
A bunch of home-made stuff.
>Hi Mike,
> They're just blocks that bolt over the now pressed on bearing to
>keep them from sliding out: http://www.precisiongear.com/cclip.htm The
>Ford axle is 1.32" opposed to Chrysler, Daimler's idea of 1.16", so
>they'll probably take the power of an old Rambler engine.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
>mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
Thanks for the link Bill.
Appreciate it.
Mike
98 TJ SE
3" Redneck Engineering Lift, 30 x 9.5 BFG ATs
A bunch of home-made stuff.
10-25-2003, 02:40 AM
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Re: D35c to Ford 8.8 Swap. Why bother?
Jerry Bransford wrote:
>That they're a c-clip design does not diminish the strength of the 8.8's
>axle shaft which is stronger than that of the Dana 44. It's an old wive's
>tale propogated by those that are either naive or know nothing about how a
>c-clip axle works. Remember that the c-clip is inside the housing, on the
>other side of the splines that are held by the gear carrier. So when the
>shafts break, they break between the housing and the hub flange, not at the
>c-clip itself.
>
>The problem with c-clip axles is not with the c-clip itself, its that if the
>axle shaft does break, there is nothing left to hold the axle shaft and
>wheel to the housing... except if there is a disk brake caliper which will
>at least hold the broken shaft from sliding out of the housing.
>
>So with a Dana 35c, the weakness is not with the c-clip itself, it's with
>the skinny axle shafts (weaker housing, smalller ring gear, etc.) and that
>the axle will slide out if the axle shaft breaks. The part where the c-clip
>goes doesn't break, that is protected by the gear carrier (case).
>
>So a Ford 8.8 is actually quite a bit stronger than a Dana 44, like the
>recent Warn axle tests confirmed. In fact, Warn said the 8.8 was far
>stronger than expected.
>
>Finally, the 8.8's c-clip eliminator kit is only designed for drag racers
>and the manufacturers of that kit strongly recommend against its use for
>other applications.
>
>Jerry
>--
>Jerry Bransford
>To email, remove 'me' from my email address
>KC6TAY, PP-ASEL
>See the Geezer Jeep at
>http://members.***.net/jerrypb/
>
Thanks for the explanation Jerry!
The search is on. Now if I can find an 8.8 with 4.88s and a LSD, that
would make my day!
Mike
98 TJ SE
3" Redneck Engineering Lift, 30 x 9.5 BFG ATs
A bunch of home-made stuff.
>That they're a c-clip design does not diminish the strength of the 8.8's
>axle shaft which is stronger than that of the Dana 44. It's an old wive's
>tale propogated by those that are either naive or know nothing about how a
>c-clip axle works. Remember that the c-clip is inside the housing, on the
>other side of the splines that are held by the gear carrier. So when the
>shafts break, they break between the housing and the hub flange, not at the
>c-clip itself.
>
>The problem with c-clip axles is not with the c-clip itself, its that if the
>axle shaft does break, there is nothing left to hold the axle shaft and
>wheel to the housing... except if there is a disk brake caliper which will
>at least hold the broken shaft from sliding out of the housing.
>
>So with a Dana 35c, the weakness is not with the c-clip itself, it's with
>the skinny axle shafts (weaker housing, smalller ring gear, etc.) and that
>the axle will slide out if the axle shaft breaks. The part where the c-clip
>goes doesn't break, that is protected by the gear carrier (case).
>
>So a Ford 8.8 is actually quite a bit stronger than a Dana 44, like the
>recent Warn axle tests confirmed. In fact, Warn said the 8.8 was far
>stronger than expected.
>
>Finally, the 8.8's c-clip eliminator kit is only designed for drag racers
>and the manufacturers of that kit strongly recommend against its use for
>other applications.
>
>Jerry
>--
>Jerry Bransford
>To email, remove 'me' from my email address
>KC6TAY, PP-ASEL
>See the Geezer Jeep at
>http://members.***.net/jerrypb/
>
Thanks for the explanation Jerry!
The search is on. Now if I can find an 8.8 with 4.88s and a LSD, that
would make my day!
Mike
98 TJ SE
3" Redneck Engineering Lift, 30 x 9.5 BFG ATs
A bunch of home-made stuff.
10-25-2003, 02:40 AM
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Re: D35c to Ford 8.8 Swap. Why bother?
Jerry Bransford wrote:
>That they're a c-clip design does not diminish the strength of the 8.8's
>axle shaft which is stronger than that of the Dana 44. It's an old wive's
>tale propogated by those that are either naive or know nothing about how a
>c-clip axle works. Remember that the c-clip is inside the housing, on the
>other side of the splines that are held by the gear carrier. So when the
>shafts break, they break between the housing and the hub flange, not at the
>c-clip itself.
>
>The problem with c-clip axles is not with the c-clip itself, its that if the
>axle shaft does break, there is nothing left to hold the axle shaft and
>wheel to the housing... except if there is a disk brake caliper which will
>at least hold the broken shaft from sliding out of the housing.
>
>So with a Dana 35c, the weakness is not with the c-clip itself, it's with
>the skinny axle shafts (weaker housing, smalller ring gear, etc.) and that
>the axle will slide out if the axle shaft breaks. The part where the c-clip
>goes doesn't break, that is protected by the gear carrier (case).
>
>So a Ford 8.8 is actually quite a bit stronger than a Dana 44, like the
>recent Warn axle tests confirmed. In fact, Warn said the 8.8 was far
>stronger than expected.
>
>Finally, the 8.8's c-clip eliminator kit is only designed for drag racers
>and the manufacturers of that kit strongly recommend against its use for
>other applications.
>
>Jerry
>--
>Jerry Bransford
>To email, remove 'me' from my email address
>KC6TAY, PP-ASEL
>See the Geezer Jeep at
>http://members.***.net/jerrypb/
>
Thanks for the explanation Jerry!
The search is on. Now if I can find an 8.8 with 4.88s and a LSD, that
would make my day!
Mike
98 TJ SE
3" Redneck Engineering Lift, 30 x 9.5 BFG ATs
A bunch of home-made stuff.
>That they're a c-clip design does not diminish the strength of the 8.8's
>axle shaft which is stronger than that of the Dana 44. It's an old wive's
>tale propogated by those that are either naive or know nothing about how a
>c-clip axle works. Remember that the c-clip is inside the housing, on the
>other side of the splines that are held by the gear carrier. So when the
>shafts break, they break between the housing and the hub flange, not at the
>c-clip itself.
>
>The problem with c-clip axles is not with the c-clip itself, its that if the
>axle shaft does break, there is nothing left to hold the axle shaft and
>wheel to the housing... except if there is a disk brake caliper which will
>at least hold the broken shaft from sliding out of the housing.
>
>So with a Dana 35c, the weakness is not with the c-clip itself, it's with
>the skinny axle shafts (weaker housing, smalller ring gear, etc.) and that
>the axle will slide out if the axle shaft breaks. The part where the c-clip
>goes doesn't break, that is protected by the gear carrier (case).
>
>So a Ford 8.8 is actually quite a bit stronger than a Dana 44, like the
>recent Warn axle tests confirmed. In fact, Warn said the 8.8 was far
>stronger than expected.
>
>Finally, the 8.8's c-clip eliminator kit is only designed for drag racers
>and the manufacturers of that kit strongly recommend against its use for
>other applications.
>
>Jerry
>--
>Jerry Bransford
>To email, remove 'me' from my email address
>KC6TAY, PP-ASEL
>See the Geezer Jeep at
>http://members.***.net/jerrypb/
>
Thanks for the explanation Jerry!
The search is on. Now if I can find an 8.8 with 4.88s and a LSD, that
would make my day!
Mike
98 TJ SE
3" Redneck Engineering Lift, 30 x 9.5 BFG ATs
A bunch of home-made stuff.
10-25-2003, 02:40 AM
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Re: D35c to Ford 8.8 Swap. Why bother?
Jerry Bransford wrote:
>That they're a c-clip design does not diminish the strength of the 8.8's
>axle shaft which is stronger than that of the Dana 44. It's an old wive's
>tale propogated by those that are either naive or know nothing about how a
>c-clip axle works. Remember that the c-clip is inside the housing, on the
>other side of the splines that are held by the gear carrier. So when the
>shafts break, they break between the housing and the hub flange, not at the
>c-clip itself.
>
>The problem with c-clip axles is not with the c-clip itself, its that if the
>axle shaft does break, there is nothing left to hold the axle shaft and
>wheel to the housing... except if there is a disk brake caliper which will
>at least hold the broken shaft from sliding out of the housing.
>
>So with a Dana 35c, the weakness is not with the c-clip itself, it's with
>the skinny axle shafts (weaker housing, smalller ring gear, etc.) and that
>the axle will slide out if the axle shaft breaks. The part where the c-clip
>goes doesn't break, that is protected by the gear carrier (case).
>
>So a Ford 8.8 is actually quite a bit stronger than a Dana 44, like the
>recent Warn axle tests confirmed. In fact, Warn said the 8.8 was far
>stronger than expected.
>
>Finally, the 8.8's c-clip eliminator kit is only designed for drag racers
>and the manufacturers of that kit strongly recommend against its use for
>other applications.
>
>Jerry
>--
>Jerry Bransford
>To email, remove 'me' from my email address
>KC6TAY, PP-ASEL
>See the Geezer Jeep at
>http://members.***.net/jerrypb/
>
Thanks for the explanation Jerry!
The search is on. Now if I can find an 8.8 with 4.88s and a LSD, that
would make my day!
Mike
98 TJ SE
3" Redneck Engineering Lift, 30 x 9.5 BFG ATs
A bunch of home-made stuff.
>That they're a c-clip design does not diminish the strength of the 8.8's
>axle shaft which is stronger than that of the Dana 44. It's an old wive's
>tale propogated by those that are either naive or know nothing about how a
>c-clip axle works. Remember that the c-clip is inside the housing, on the
>other side of the splines that are held by the gear carrier. So when the
>shafts break, they break between the housing and the hub flange, not at the
>c-clip itself.
>
>The problem with c-clip axles is not with the c-clip itself, its that if the
>axle shaft does break, there is nothing left to hold the axle shaft and
>wheel to the housing... except if there is a disk brake caliper which will
>at least hold the broken shaft from sliding out of the housing.
>
>So with a Dana 35c, the weakness is not with the c-clip itself, it's with
>the skinny axle shafts (weaker housing, smalller ring gear, etc.) and that
>the axle will slide out if the axle shaft breaks. The part where the c-clip
>goes doesn't break, that is protected by the gear carrier (case).
>
>So a Ford 8.8 is actually quite a bit stronger than a Dana 44, like the
>recent Warn axle tests confirmed. In fact, Warn said the 8.8 was far
>stronger than expected.
>
>Finally, the 8.8's c-clip eliminator kit is only designed for drag racers
>and the manufacturers of that kit strongly recommend against its use for
>other applications.
>
>Jerry
>--
>Jerry Bransford
>To email, remove 'me' from my email address
>KC6TAY, PP-ASEL
>See the Geezer Jeep at
>http://members.***.net/jerrypb/
>
Thanks for the explanation Jerry!
The search is on. Now if I can find an 8.8 with 4.88s and a LSD, that
would make my day!
Mike
98 TJ SE
3" Redneck Engineering Lift, 30 x 9.5 BFG ATs
A bunch of home-made stuff.
10-25-2003, 10:24 AM
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Re: D35c to Ford 8.8 Swap. Why bother?
What years and models would these 8.8s be typically in?
GzrGlide wrote:
> Thanks for the explanation Jerry!
> The search is on. Now if I can find an 8.8 with 4.88s and a LSD, that
> would make my day!
>
> Mike
> 98 TJ SE
> 3" Redneck Engineering Lift, 30 x 9.5 BFG ATs
> A bunch of home-made stuff.
>
>
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GzrGlide wrote:
> Thanks for the explanation Jerry!
> The search is on. Now if I can find an 8.8 with 4.88s and a LSD, that
> would make my day!
>
> Mike
> 98 TJ SE
> 3" Redneck Engineering Lift, 30 x 9.5 BFG ATs
> A bunch of home-made stuff.
>
>
--
__________________________________________________ _________
tw
03 TJ Rubicon
01 XJ Sport
There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
-- Dave Barry
Pronunciation: 'jEp
Function: noun
Date: 1940
Etymology: probably from g. p. (abbreviation of general purpose)
A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase,
1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in
World War II.
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10-25-2003, 10:24 AM
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Re: D35c to Ford 8.8 Swap. Why bother?
What years and models would these 8.8s be typically in?
GzrGlide wrote:
> Thanks for the explanation Jerry!
> The search is on. Now if I can find an 8.8 with 4.88s and a LSD, that
> would make my day!
>
> Mike
> 98 TJ SE
> 3" Redneck Engineering Lift, 30 x 9.5 BFG ATs
> A bunch of home-made stuff.
>
>
--
__________________________________________________ _________
tw
03 TJ Rubicon
01 XJ Sport
There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
-- Dave Barry
Pronunciation: 'jEp
Function: noun
Date: 1940
Etymology: probably from g. p. (abbreviation of general purpose)
A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase,
1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in
World War II.
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GzrGlide wrote:
> Thanks for the explanation Jerry!
> The search is on. Now if I can find an 8.8 with 4.88s and a LSD, that
> would make my day!
>
> Mike
> 98 TJ SE
> 3" Redneck Engineering Lift, 30 x 9.5 BFG ATs
> A bunch of home-made stuff.
>
>
--
__________________________________________________ _________
tw
03 TJ Rubicon
01 XJ Sport
There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
-- Dave Barry
Pronunciation: 'jEp
Function: noun
Date: 1940
Etymology: probably from g. p. (abbreviation of general purpose)
A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase,
1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in
World War II.
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10-25-2003, 10:24 AM
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Re: D35c to Ford 8.8 Swap. Why bother?
What years and models would these 8.8s be typically in?
GzrGlide wrote:
> Thanks for the explanation Jerry!
> The search is on. Now if I can find an 8.8 with 4.88s and a LSD, that
> would make my day!
>
> Mike
> 98 TJ SE
> 3" Redneck Engineering Lift, 30 x 9.5 BFG ATs
> A bunch of home-made stuff.
>
>
--
__________________________________________________ _________
tw
03 TJ Rubicon
01 XJ Sport
There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
-- Dave Barry
Pronunciation: 'jEp
Function: noun
Date: 1940
Etymology: probably from g. p. (abbreviation of general purpose)
A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase,
1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in
World War II.
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GzrGlide wrote:
> Thanks for the explanation Jerry!
> The search is on. Now if I can find an 8.8 with 4.88s and a LSD, that
> would make my day!
>
> Mike
> 98 TJ SE
> 3" Redneck Engineering Lift, 30 x 9.5 BFG ATs
> A bunch of home-made stuff.
>
>
--
__________________________________________________ _________
tw
03 TJ Rubicon
01 XJ Sport
There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
-- Dave Barry
Pronunciation: 'jEp
Function: noun
Date: 1940
Etymology: probably from g. p. (abbreviation of general purpose)
A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase,
1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in
World War II.
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