Re: Cooper Discovery AT tires any good?
 

After blowing out/destroying one of my Kelly Safari AWR tires on a chunk of
limestone in the Pryor Mountains last August, I bought a set of Goodyear
Wrangler MTR's for my '98 XJ. The Goodyears are far superior to the Kellys.
I'm subjecting my Jeep and its tires to conditions far worse than "unpaved
road/highway". So far no problems whatsoever. The Goodyear MTR's are the
best tires I've ever had on the Jeep. Lots of road noise but that's easily
cured by the volume knob on the stereo.

Goodyear Wrangler MTR are standard on the TJ Rubicon. Highly recommended.

Best regards,
Dave Rose
Cactus Cowboy
Big Wonderful Wyoming
'49 Willys Pickup (parts truck)
'62 Willys Pickup 4WD 226
'98 XJ Sport
O|||||||O

"Matt" <mhammer8@yahoo.com> wrote in
> I hate Goodyears! Those Wranglers that they put on the new TJ suck! I
> flattened 3 of them in the first year I had them from normal (nothing
> worse than unpaved road/highway)use-2 separated treads, one sidewall
> split. I replaced them with 31 x 10.50 Kellys and haven't had a
> problem in 3 years! I'll never buy Goodyear voluntarily.
>
> Matt

Re: Cooper Discovery AT tires any good?
 

After blowing out/destroying one of my Kelly Safari AWR tires on a chunk of
limestone in the Pryor Mountains last August, I bought a set of Goodyear
Wrangler MTR's for my '98 XJ. The Goodyears are far superior to the Kellys.
I'm subjecting my Jeep and its tires to conditions far worse than "unpaved
road/highway". So far no problems whatsoever. The Goodyear MTR's are the
best tires I've ever had on the Jeep. Lots of road noise but that's easily
cured by the volume knob on the stereo.

Goodyear Wrangler MTR are standard on the TJ Rubicon. Highly recommended.

Best regards,
Dave Rose
Cactus Cowboy
Big Wonderful Wyoming
'49 Willys Pickup (parts truck)
'62 Willys Pickup 4WD 226
'98 XJ Sport
O|||||||O

"Matt" <mhammer8@yahoo.com> wrote in
> I hate Goodyears! Those Wranglers that they put on the new TJ suck! I
> flattened 3 of them in the first year I had them from normal (nothing
> worse than unpaved road/highway)use-2 separated treads, one sidewall
> split. I replaced them with 31 x 10.50 Kellys and haven't had a
> problem in 3 years! I'll never buy Goodyear voluntarily.
>
> Matt

Re: Cooper Discovery AT tires any good?
 

In <3a3f4978.0403011014.28cb83c6@posting.google.com > Matt wrote:

> I hate Goodyears! Those Wranglers that they put on the new TJ suck! I
> flattened 3 of them in the first year I had them from normal (nothing
> worse than unpaved road/highway)use-2 separated treads, one sidewall
> split. I replaced them with 31 x 10.50 Kellys and haven't had a
> problem in 3 years! I'll never buy Goodyear voluntarily.

This illustrates one of my biggest problems when I was an independant
Goodyear dealer. Goodyear has been sabotaging their own reputation for
years with the crappy tires they sell to the OEMs, like the Wranger RT/S
that came on my Jeep and probably yours. My opinion of that tire can be
summed up by stating that the day after I got the Jeep home, I removed
the RT/S tires and installed a new set of Wrangler MT/Rs, which I had
ordered well in advance of taking delivery of my TJ. They are still
holding up just fine at around 30K, no complaints.

Goodyear makes some damn tough tires but none of them are installed as
original equipment by the automakers. The crap they make for new
vehicles isn't any better than anyone else's OEM crap, with the possible
exception of the firestone lines. You've had a bad experience with
Goodyear and nobody can blame you for feeling the way you do, but their
better tires are as good as anybody's and better than most.

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Re: Cooper Discovery AT tires any good?
 

In <3a3f4978.0403011014.28cb83c6@posting.google.com > Matt wrote:

> I hate Goodyears! Those Wranglers that they put on the new TJ suck! I
> flattened 3 of them in the first year I had them from normal (nothing
> worse than unpaved road/highway)use-2 separated treads, one sidewall
> split. I replaced them with 31 x 10.50 Kellys and haven't had a
> problem in 3 years! I'll never buy Goodyear voluntarily.

This illustrates one of my biggest problems when I was an independant
Goodyear dealer. Goodyear has been sabotaging their own reputation for
years with the crappy tires they sell to the OEMs, like the Wranger RT/S
that came on my Jeep and probably yours. My opinion of that tire can be
summed up by stating that the day after I got the Jeep home, I removed
the RT/S tires and installed a new set of Wrangler MT/Rs, which I had
ordered well in advance of taking delivery of my TJ. They are still
holding up just fine at around 30K, no complaints.

Goodyear makes some damn tough tires but none of them are installed as
original equipment by the automakers. The crap they make for new
vehicles isn't any better than anyone else's OEM crap, with the possible
exception of the firestone lines. You've had a bad experience with
Goodyear and nobody can blame you for feeling the way you do, but their
better tires are as good as anybody's and better than most.

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Re: Cooper Discovery AT tires any good?
 

In <3a3f4978.0403011014.28cb83c6@posting.google.com > Matt wrote:

> I hate Goodyears! Those Wranglers that they put on the new TJ suck! I
> flattened 3 of them in the first year I had them from normal (nothing
> worse than unpaved road/highway)use-2 separated treads, one sidewall
> split. I replaced them with 31 x 10.50 Kellys and haven't had a
> problem in 3 years! I'll never buy Goodyear voluntarily.

This illustrates one of my biggest problems when I was an independant
Goodyear dealer. Goodyear has been sabotaging their own reputation for
years with the crappy tires they sell to the OEMs, like the Wranger RT/S
that came on my Jeep and probably yours. My opinion of that tire can be
summed up by stating that the day after I got the Jeep home, I removed
the RT/S tires and installed a new set of Wrangler MT/Rs, which I had
ordered well in advance of taking delivery of my TJ. They are still
holding up just fine at around 30K, no complaints.

Goodyear makes some damn tough tires but none of them are installed as
original equipment by the automakers. The crap they make for new
vehicles isn't any better than anyone else's OEM crap, with the possible
exception of the firestone lines. You've had a bad experience with
Goodyear and nobody can blame you for feeling the way you do, but their
better tires are as good as anybody's and better than most.

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Re: Cooper Discovery AT tires any good?
 

You should have seen it when the new cars came with two ply bias
tires.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
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Del Rawlins wrote:
>
> This illustrates one of my biggest problems when I was an independant
> Goodyear dealer. Goodyear has been sabotaging their own reputation for
> years with the crappy tires they sell to the OEMs, like the Wranger RT/S
> that came on my Jeep and probably yours. My opinion of that tire can be
> summed up by stating that the day after I got the Jeep home, I removed
> the RT/S tires and installed a new set of Wrangler MT/Rs, which I had
> ordered well in advance of taking delivery of my TJ. They are still
> holding up just fine at around 30K, no complaints.
>
> Goodyear makes some damn tough tires but none of them are installed as
> original equipment by the automakers. The crap they make for new
> vehicles isn't any better than anyone else's OEM crap, with the possible
> exception of the firestone lines. You've had a bad experience with
> Goodyear and nobody can blame you for feeling the way you do, but their
> better tires are as good as anybody's and better than most.
>
> ----------------------------------------------------
> Del Rawlins- del@_kills_spammers_rawlinsbrothers.org
> Remove _kills_spammers_ to reply via email.
> Unofficial Bearhawk FAQ website:
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Re: Cooper Discovery AT tires any good?
 

You should have seen it when the new cars came with two ply bias
tires.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Del Rawlins wrote:
>
> This illustrates one of my biggest problems when I was an independant
> Goodyear dealer. Goodyear has been sabotaging their own reputation for
> years with the crappy tires they sell to the OEMs, like the Wranger RT/S
> that came on my Jeep and probably yours. My opinion of that tire can be
> summed up by stating that the day after I got the Jeep home, I removed
> the RT/S tires and installed a new set of Wrangler MT/Rs, which I had
> ordered well in advance of taking delivery of my TJ. They are still
> holding up just fine at around 30K, no complaints.
>
> Goodyear makes some damn tough tires but none of them are installed as
> original equipment by the automakers. The crap they make for new
> vehicles isn't any better than anyone else's OEM crap, with the possible
> exception of the firestone lines. You've had a bad experience with
> Goodyear and nobody can blame you for feeling the way you do, but their
> better tires are as good as anybody's and better than most.
>
> ----------------------------------------------------
> Del Rawlins- del@_kills_spammers_rawlinsbrothers.org
> Remove _kills_spammers_ to reply via email.
> Unofficial Bearhawk FAQ website:
> http://www.rawlinsbrothers.org/bhfaq/

Re: Cooper Discovery AT tires any good?
 

You should have seen it when the new cars came with two ply bias
tires.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Del Rawlins wrote:
>
> This illustrates one of my biggest problems when I was an independant
> Goodyear dealer. Goodyear has been sabotaging their own reputation for
> years with the crappy tires they sell to the OEMs, like the Wranger RT/S
> that came on my Jeep and probably yours. My opinion of that tire can be
> summed up by stating that the day after I got the Jeep home, I removed
> the RT/S tires and installed a new set of Wrangler MT/Rs, which I had
> ordered well in advance of taking delivery of my TJ. They are still
> holding up just fine at around 30K, no complaints.
>
> Goodyear makes some damn tough tires but none of them are installed as
> original equipment by the automakers. The crap they make for new
> vehicles isn't any better than anyone else's OEM crap, with the possible
> exception of the firestone lines. You've had a bad experience with
> Goodyear and nobody can blame you for feeling the way you do, but their
> better tires are as good as anybody's and better than most.
>
> ----------------------------------------------------
> Del Rawlins- del@_kills_spammers_rawlinsbrothers.org
> Remove _kills_spammers_ to reply via email.
> Unofficial Bearhawk FAQ website:
> http://www.rawlinsbrothers.org/bhfaq/

Re: Cooper Discovery AT tires any good?
 

Obviously, the Tire debate could go on forever.... I'm looking at
replacing the original GY GSA's on my '03 TJ, which by the way, have
treated me extremely well. I would rate them very good overall,
although I haven't had them in more than 5 or 6 inches of mud, the
performance in 16 inches of snow is commendable. 36K miles on them
and they've still got 10+K left. As I understand, GY is discontinuing
most sizes of the GSA with the exception of the 30x9.50/15. I'd like
to move to 31x10.50's and I am looking at BFG AT's and the
Bridgestone/Firestone AT REVO. I am very familiar with the BFG
product as it has been around forever, but does anyone have an opinion
on the REVO? Consumer Reports rates them as "excellent", but I'd like
to hear what the folks here have to say as I trust the judgement of
<some> fellow Jeep owners.




"Cherokee-LTD" <spammenot@home.com> wrote in message news:<uYy0c.76797$Qg7.57768@news04.bloor.is.net.ca ble.rogers.com>...
> Good tire, great value. They are long lasting and I have yet to encounter a
> shifted belt even after sitting flat and frozen for a few months.
> -Brian
>
> "Monte Castleman" <qmdcastleman@earthlink.net> wrote in message
> news:84v0c.27330$hm4.12270@newsread3.news.atl.eart hlink.net...
> : My stepfather finally decided to junk the Jimmy that his daughter rear
> : ended someone with a year ago, and offered me the tires (with about
> : 3-4/5th the tread left), so my only cost would be to have them
> : remounted.
> :
> : I currently drive Firestone Wilderness ATs. I don't plan to go nuts
> : off-roading, but I do drive through a lot of midwestern weather. Are
> : these Coopers any good, or are they worth what I'd pay for them. Would
> : being on a non-operation vehicle for a year have hurt them (the truck
> : wasn't moved, but they weren't deflated)?
> : --
> :
> : Monte Castleman, <<Spamfilter in Use>>
> : Bloomington, MN <<to email, remove the "q" from address>>
> :

Re: Cooper Discovery AT tires any good?
 

Obviously, the Tire debate could go on forever.... I'm looking at
replacing the original GY GSA's on my '03 TJ, which by the way, have
treated me extremely well. I would rate them very good overall,
although I haven't had them in more than 5 or 6 inches of mud, the
performance in 16 inches of snow is commendable. 36K miles on them
and they've still got 10+K left. As I understand, GY is discontinuing
most sizes of the GSA with the exception of the 30x9.50/15. I'd like
to move to 31x10.50's and I am looking at BFG AT's and the
Bridgestone/Firestone AT REVO. I am very familiar with the BFG
product as it has been around forever, but does anyone have an opinion
on the REVO? Consumer Reports rates them as "excellent", but I'd like
to hear what the folks here have to say as I trust the judgement of
<some> fellow Jeep owners.




"Cherokee-LTD" <spammenot@home.com> wrote in message news:<uYy0c.76797$Qg7.57768@news04.bloor.is.net.ca ble.rogers.com>...
> Good tire, great value. They are long lasting and I have yet to encounter a
> shifted belt even after sitting flat and frozen for a few months.
> -Brian
>
> "Monte Castleman" <qmdcastleman@earthlink.net> wrote in message
> news:84v0c.27330$hm4.12270@newsread3.news.atl.eart hlink.net...
> : My stepfather finally decided to junk the Jimmy that his daughter rear
> : ended someone with a year ago, and offered me the tires (with about
> : 3-4/5th the tread left), so my only cost would be to have them
> : remounted.
> :
> : I currently drive Firestone Wilderness ATs. I don't plan to go nuts
> : off-roading, but I do drive through a lot of midwestern weather. Are
> : these Coopers any good, or are they worth what I'd pay for them. Would
> : being on a non-operation vehicle for a year have hurt them (the truck
> : wasn't moved, but they weren't deflated)?
> : --
> :
> : Monte Castleman, <<Spamfilter in Use>>
> : Bloomington, MN <<to email, remove the "q" from address>>
> :