Re: Cooper Discovery AT tires any good?
 

I got 80k to 100k miles on two rounds of the AT and Explorer
combo. Excellent milage, good compromise between road noise and
slop weather traction. Of course I kept them at 28 psi since I
couldn't stand the squimy handling at 26psi, run empty most of
the time, and those of us in the northland don't have too many
days of 90 degrees plus.

But I can certainly see why you could have problems with a full
load, 100 degrees, a long freeway, and a tire at or below the
reccomended 26 psi. Picture the family vacation to Disneyland and
a poorly maintained vehicle.

Matt Osborn wrote:

> I understood that design to be a Ford problem, exacerbated by the low
> air pressure Ford specified.
>
> On Sun, 29 Feb 2004 18:13:59 -0800, L.W.(ßill) ------ III
> <----------@cox.net> wrote:
>
>
>> It didn't use to be that way while it was an American company. I
>>know you've adjusted many Goodyears, as I've had many the theirs tread
>>separate, just that I took them off when I felt them go out of round,
>>before the rolled off like the Firestones that killed the top heave
>>Explorer passengers.
>> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
>>mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>>
>>Del Rawlins wrote:
>>
>>>Anything is likely to be an improvement over those firestones. In 10+
>>>years of working in my family's tire shop, that was one of the worst
>>>damn pieces of crap I ever saw foisted on the public as being a supposed
>>>light truck tire. I never understood the recall where they were
>>>treating it as a manufacturing defect in some of them, depending on when
>>>produced and in what plant. They were ALL bad! The one good thing I
>>>have to say about them is they helped me to sell a lot of Goodyears. 8^)
>>>
>>>----------------------------------------------------
>>>Del Rawlins- del@_kills_spammers_rawlinsbrothers.org
>>>Remove _kills_spammers_ to reply via email.
>>>Unofficial Bearhawk FAQ website:
>>>http://www.rawlinsbrothers.org/bhfaq/
>
>

Re: Cooper Discovery AT tires any good?
 

I got 80k to 100k miles on two rounds of the AT and Explorer
combo. Excellent milage, good compromise between road noise and
slop weather traction. Of course I kept them at 28 psi since I
couldn't stand the squimy handling at 26psi, run empty most of
the time, and those of us in the northland don't have too many
days of 90 degrees plus.

But I can certainly see why you could have problems with a full
load, 100 degrees, a long freeway, and a tire at or below the
reccomended 26 psi. Picture the family vacation to Disneyland and
a poorly maintained vehicle.

Matt Osborn wrote:

> I understood that design to be a Ford problem, exacerbated by the low
> air pressure Ford specified.
>
> On Sun, 29 Feb 2004 18:13:59 -0800, L.W.(ßill) ------ III
> <----------@cox.net> wrote:
>
>
>> It didn't use to be that way while it was an American company. I
>>know you've adjusted many Goodyears, as I've had many the theirs tread
>>separate, just that I took them off when I felt them go out of round,
>>before the rolled off like the Firestones that killed the top heave
>>Explorer passengers.
>> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
>>mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>>
>>Del Rawlins wrote:
>>
>>>Anything is likely to be an improvement over those firestones. In 10+
>>>years of working in my family's tire shop, that was one of the worst
>>>damn pieces of crap I ever saw foisted on the public as being a supposed
>>>light truck tire. I never understood the recall where they were
>>>treating it as a manufacturing defect in some of them, depending on when
>>>produced and in what plant. They were ALL bad! The one good thing I
>>>have to say about them is they helped me to sell a lot of Goodyears. 8^)
>>>
>>>----------------------------------------------------
>>>Del Rawlins- del@_kills_spammers_rawlinsbrothers.org
>>>Remove _kills_spammers_ to reply via email.
>>>Unofficial Bearhawk FAQ website:
>>>http://www.rawlinsbrothers.org/bhfaq/
>
>

Re: Cooper Discovery AT tires any good?
 

I got 80k to 100k miles on two rounds of the AT and Explorer
combo. Excellent milage, good compromise between road noise and
slop weather traction. Of course I kept them at 28 psi since I
couldn't stand the squimy handling at 26psi, run empty most of
the time, and those of us in the northland don't have too many
days of 90 degrees plus.

But I can certainly see why you could have problems with a full
load, 100 degrees, a long freeway, and a tire at or below the
reccomended 26 psi. Picture the family vacation to Disneyland and
a poorly maintained vehicle.

Matt Osborn wrote:

> I understood that design to be a Ford problem, exacerbated by the low
> air pressure Ford specified.
>
> On Sun, 29 Feb 2004 18:13:59 -0800, L.W.(ßill) ------ III
> <----------@cox.net> wrote:
>
>
>> It didn't use to be that way while it was an American company. I
>>know you've adjusted many Goodyears, as I've had many the theirs tread
>>separate, just that I took them off when I felt them go out of round,
>>before the rolled off like the Firestones that killed the top heave
>>Explorer passengers.
>> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
>>mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>>
>>Del Rawlins wrote:
>>
>>>Anything is likely to be an improvement over those firestones. In 10+
>>>years of working in my family's tire shop, that was one of the worst
>>>damn pieces of crap I ever saw foisted on the public as being a supposed
>>>light truck tire. I never understood the recall where they were
>>>treating it as a manufacturing defect in some of them, depending on when
>>>produced and in what plant. They were ALL bad! The one good thing I
>>>have to say about them is they helped me to sell a lot of Goodyears. 8^)
>>>
>>>----------------------------------------------------
>>>Del Rawlins- del@_kills_spammers_rawlinsbrothers.org
>>>Remove _kills_spammers_ to reply via email.
>>>Unofficial Bearhawk FAQ website:
>>>http://www.rawlinsbrothers.org/bhfaq/
>
>

Re: Cooper Discovery AT tires any good?
 

L.W.(ßill) ------ III <----------@cox.net> wrote in message news:<40429C67.DF8BE2F7@cox.net>...
> It didn't use to be that way while it was an American company. I
> know you've adjusted many Goodyears, as I've had many the theirs tread
> separate, just that I took them off when I felt them go out of round,
> before the rolled off like the Firestones that killed the top heave
> Explorer passengers.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
I hate Goodyears! Those Wranglers that they put on the new TJ suck! I
flattened 3 of them in the first year I had them from normal (nothing
worse than unpaved road/highway)use-2 separated treads, one sidewall
split. I replaced them with 31 x 10.50 Kellys and haven't had a
problem in 3 years! I'll never buy Goodyear voluntarily.

Matt

Re: Cooper Discovery AT tires any good?
 

L.W.(ßill) ------ III <----------@cox.net> wrote in message news:<40429C67.DF8BE2F7@cox.net>...
> It didn't use to be that way while it was an American company. I
> know you've adjusted many Goodyears, as I've had many the theirs tread
> separate, just that I took them off when I felt them go out of round,
> before the rolled off like the Firestones that killed the top heave
> Explorer passengers.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
I hate Goodyears! Those Wranglers that they put on the new TJ suck! I
flattened 3 of them in the first year I had them from normal (nothing
worse than unpaved road/highway)use-2 separated treads, one sidewall
split. I replaced them with 31 x 10.50 Kellys and haven't had a
problem in 3 years! I'll never buy Goodyear voluntarily.

Matt

Re: Cooper Discovery AT tires any good?
 

L.W.(ßill) ------ III <----------@cox.net> wrote in message news:<40429C67.DF8BE2F7@cox.net>...
> It didn't use to be that way while it was an American company. I
> know you've adjusted many Goodyears, as I've had many the theirs tread
> separate, just that I took them off when I felt them go out of round,
> before the rolled off like the Firestones that killed the top heave
> Explorer passengers.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
I hate Goodyears! Those Wranglers that they put on the new TJ suck! I
flattened 3 of them in the first year I had them from normal (nothing
worse than unpaved road/highway)use-2 separated treads, one sidewall
split. I replaced them with 31 x 10.50 Kellys and haven't had a
problem in 3 years! I'll never buy Goodyear voluntarily.

Matt

Re: Cooper Discovery AT tires any good?
 

I couldn't handle the squirrely feeling either with my full sized
'32 Bronco that weights less than most TJs, using forty pounds for even
wear across my BF Goodrich 32"11.50RX15s.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Roy J wrote:
>
> I got 80k to 100k miles on two rounds of the AT and Explorer
> combo. Excellent milage, good compromise between road noise and
> slop weather traction. Of course I kept them at 28 psi since I
> couldn't stand the squimy handling at 26psi, run empty most of
> the time, and those of us in the northland don't have too many
> days of 90 degrees plus.
>
> But I can certainly see why you could have problems with a full
> load, 100 degrees, a long freeway, and a tire at or below the
> reccomended 26 psi. Picture the family vacation to Disneyland and
> a poorly maintained vehicle.
>
> Matt Osborn wrote:
>
> > I understood that design to be a Ford problem, exacerbated by the low
> > air pressure Ford specified.
> >
> > On Sun, 29 Feb 2004 18:13:59 -0800, L.W.(ßill) ------ III
> > <----------@cox.net> wrote:
> >
> >
> >> It didn't use to be that way while it was an American company. I
> >>know you've adjusted many Goodyears, as I've had many the theirs tread
> >>separate, just that I took them off when I felt them go out of round,
> >>before the rolled off like the Firestones that killed the top heave
> >>Explorer passengers.
> >> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> >>mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> >>
> >>Del Rawlins wrote:
> >>
> >>>Anything is likely to be an improvement over those firestones. In 10+
> >>>years of working in my family's tire shop, that was one of the worst
> >>>damn pieces of crap I ever saw foisted on the public as being a supposed
> >>>light truck tire. I never understood the recall where they were
> >>>treating it as a manufacturing defect in some of them, depending on when
> >>>produced and in what plant. They were ALL bad! The one good thing I
> >>>have to say about them is they helped me to sell a lot of Goodyears. 8^)
> >>>
> >>>----------------------------------------------------
> >>>Del Rawlins- del@_kills_spammers_rawlinsbrothers.org
> >>>Remove _kills_spammers_ to reply via email.
> >>>Unofficial Bearhawk FAQ website:
> >>>http://www.rawlinsbrothers.org/bhfaq/
> >
> >

Re: Cooper Discovery AT tires any good?
 

I couldn't handle the squirrely feeling either with my full sized
'32 Bronco that weights less than most TJs, using forty pounds for even
wear across my BF Goodrich 32"11.50RX15s.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Roy J wrote:
>
> I got 80k to 100k miles on two rounds of the AT and Explorer
> combo. Excellent milage, good compromise between road noise and
> slop weather traction. Of course I kept them at 28 psi since I
> couldn't stand the squimy handling at 26psi, run empty most of
> the time, and those of us in the northland don't have too many
> days of 90 degrees plus.
>
> But I can certainly see why you could have problems with a full
> load, 100 degrees, a long freeway, and a tire at or below the
> reccomended 26 psi. Picture the family vacation to Disneyland and
> a poorly maintained vehicle.
>
> Matt Osborn wrote:
>
> > I understood that design to be a Ford problem, exacerbated by the low
> > air pressure Ford specified.
> >
> > On Sun, 29 Feb 2004 18:13:59 -0800, L.W.(ßill) ------ III
> > <----------@cox.net> wrote:
> >
> >
> >> It didn't use to be that way while it was an American company. I
> >>know you've adjusted many Goodyears, as I've had many the theirs tread
> >>separate, just that I took them off when I felt them go out of round,
> >>before the rolled off like the Firestones that killed the top heave
> >>Explorer passengers.
> >> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> >>mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> >>
> >>Del Rawlins wrote:
> >>
> >>>Anything is likely to be an improvement over those firestones. In 10+
> >>>years of working in my family's tire shop, that was one of the worst
> >>>damn pieces of crap I ever saw foisted on the public as being a supposed
> >>>light truck tire. I never understood the recall where they were
> >>>treating it as a manufacturing defect in some of them, depending on when
> >>>produced and in what plant. They were ALL bad! The one good thing I
> >>>have to say about them is they helped me to sell a lot of Goodyears. 8^)
> >>>
> >>>----------------------------------------------------
> >>>Del Rawlins- del@_kills_spammers_rawlinsbrothers.org
> >>>Remove _kills_spammers_ to reply via email.
> >>>Unofficial Bearhawk FAQ website:
> >>>http://www.rawlinsbrothers.org/bhfaq/
> >
> >

Re: Cooper Discovery AT tires any good?
 

I couldn't handle the squirrely feeling either with my full sized
'32 Bronco that weights less than most TJs, using forty pounds for even
wear across my BF Goodrich 32"11.50RX15s.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Roy J wrote:
>
> I got 80k to 100k miles on two rounds of the AT and Explorer
> combo. Excellent milage, good compromise between road noise and
> slop weather traction. Of course I kept them at 28 psi since I
> couldn't stand the squimy handling at 26psi, run empty most of
> the time, and those of us in the northland don't have too many
> days of 90 degrees plus.
>
> But I can certainly see why you could have problems with a full
> load, 100 degrees, a long freeway, and a tire at or below the
> reccomended 26 psi. Picture the family vacation to Disneyland and
> a poorly maintained vehicle.
>
> Matt Osborn wrote:
>
> > I understood that design to be a Ford problem, exacerbated by the low
> > air pressure Ford specified.
> >
> > On Sun, 29 Feb 2004 18:13:59 -0800, L.W.(ßill) ------ III
> > <----------@cox.net> wrote:
> >
> >
> >> It didn't use to be that way while it was an American company. I
> >>know you've adjusted many Goodyears, as I've had many the theirs tread
> >>separate, just that I took them off when I felt them go out of round,
> >>before the rolled off like the Firestones that killed the top heave
> >>Explorer passengers.
> >> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> >>mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> >>
> >>Del Rawlins wrote:
> >>
> >>>Anything is likely to be an improvement over those firestones. In 10+
> >>>years of working in my family's tire shop, that was one of the worst
> >>>damn pieces of crap I ever saw foisted on the public as being a supposed
> >>>light truck tire. I never understood the recall where they were
> >>>treating it as a manufacturing defect in some of them, depending on when
> >>>produced and in what plant. They were ALL bad! The one good thing I
> >>>have to say about them is they helped me to sell a lot of Goodyears. 8^)
> >>>
> >>>----------------------------------------------------
> >>>Del Rawlins- del@_kills_spammers_rawlinsbrothers.org
> >>>Remove _kills_spammers_ to reply via email.
> >>>Unofficial Bearhawk FAQ website:
> >>>http://www.rawlinsbrothers.org/bhfaq/
> >
> >

Re: Cooper Discovery AT tires any good?
 

After blowing out/destroying one of my Kelly Safari AWR tires on a chunk of
limestone in the Pryor Mountains last August, I bought a set of Goodyear
Wrangler MTR's for my '98 XJ. The Goodyears are far superior to the Kellys.
I'm subjecting my Jeep and its tires to conditions far worse than "unpaved
road/highway". So far no problems whatsoever. The Goodyear MTR's are the
best tires I've ever had on the Jeep. Lots of road noise but that's easily
cured by the volume knob on the stereo.

Goodyear Wrangler MTR are standard on the TJ Rubicon. Highly recommended.

Best regards,
Dave Rose
Cactus Cowboy
Big Wonderful Wyoming
'49 Willys Pickup (parts truck)
'62 Willys Pickup 4WD 226
'98 XJ Sport
O|||||||O

"Matt" <mhammer8@yahoo.com> wrote in
> I hate Goodyears! Those Wranglers that they put on the new TJ suck! I
> flattened 3 of them in the first year I had them from normal (nothing
> worse than unpaved road/highway)use-2 separated treads, one sidewall
> split. I replaced them with 31 x 10.50 Kellys and haven't had a
> problem in 3 years! I'll never buy Goodyear voluntarily.
>
> Matt