Coolant suprise
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Re: Coolant suprise
I got a third gallon as well, for emergencies. Capacity is 12 quarts, I
think. 2000TJ, I plan to keep it at a 50-50 mix.
Already planned on cleaning the expansion tank. This is my dilemma, the last
time I flushed a cooling system myself (not including when the new rad was
installed in the TJ in May of 2004, and then I didn't backflush completely)
I didn't live where I am now. I have well-water here with lots of iron in
it, I am wondering if it would be OK to flush the system with this. I can
flush either with straight well water or water that's been through the
softener; however considering the softener element is flushed periodically
with a brine solution, I think that would be a bad idea.
I also plan to replace the rad & heater hoses.
"billy ray" <billy_ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message
news:8c9be$4574bd85$422afc51$4901@FUSE.NET...
>3 gallons? What is the capacity of your cooling system?
>
> I used 2 gallons in my 15 quart system which gives me 53.3% = - 43/+267
> coverage
>
> Maximum coverage is achieved at 68%, greater than that the coverage
> actually decreases rapidly
>
> http://s112.photobucket.com/albums/n...lant%20Charts/
>
> Be sure to clean the expansion tank also. If you have a layer of slime or
> scum you may want to use a flush (mild) or cleaner (harsh) solution.
>
> It would be worthwhile to be sure the heater core is drained or flushed
> with distilled water. The minerals in tap water promote corrosion.
>
>
>
>
>
> "Matt Macchiarolo" <matt@nospamplease.com> wrote in message
> news:keudnaDlae3mNunYnZ2dnUVZ_sGdnZ2d@comcast.com. ..
>>I just got three gallons of the Zerex G-05 for the TJ, which I plan to
>>flush & fill this week if it gets above freezing, replacing the Zerex
>>green. Billy, any advice? (I already have the flush tee installed.)
>>
>> "billy ray" <billy_ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message
>> news:b5b03$457451e4$422afc51$13637@FUSE.NET...
>>> It is hard to say. Industry publications say that the 'automotive'
>>> Prestones are all OAT which is what DexCool uses. The Peak marketed
>>> specifically for DC, Ford and Mercedes is OAT according to the Peak
>>> website.
>>>
>>> Most brands either claim OAT or refuse to reveal what anti corrosive
>>> package they use.
>>>
>>> If you want the old fashioned "Green' coolant it is/was using IAT
>>> anti-corrosives. The only company I know for sure still makes it is
>>> Zerex in the white jug.
>>>
>>> The new stuff is G-05 (HOAT or Glysantin) spec. I wouldn't use anything
>>> that doesn't say it contains one or more of these terms in big letters
>>> on the bottle. I would avoid products that don't list the package used
>>> and only say things like 'recommended for'. If it meets the G-05
>>> standard it will say so clearly.
>>>
>>> Wal-Mart used to post MSDS sheets online somewhere, it may well tell you
>>> who the original manufacturer is and the chemical composition (other
>>> than the ethylene glycol base)
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> "Earle Horton" <el_anglo_burgues@usa.com> wrote in message
>>> news:45745947$0$3480$a82e2bb9@reader.athenanews.co m...
>>>>I wonder what is in the WalMart no-name concentrate? It appears to be
>>>>pale
>>>> yellow too. They also sell the Prestone 50/50 mix, for the same price
>>>> as
>>>> the no-name concentrate.
>>>>
>>>> Earle
>>>>
>>>> "billy ray" <billy_ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message
>>>> news:e0620$4573be4d$422afc51$9785@FUSE.NET...
>>>>> Zerex G-05 in the aftermarket is pale yellow.
>>>>> http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...18433873&idx=5
>>>>>
>>>>> In other applications it is:
>>>>> (http://www.valvoline.com/pages/produ...asp?product=10)
>>>>> What vehicles use Zerex G-05 in the factory fill and what is the dye
>>>> color?
>>>>> 1984 Mercedes and beyond (light yellow)
>>>>> 1990 Deere and Company vehicles and beyond (green)
>>>>> 2001 Chrysler, Dodge, and Jeep and beyond (orange)
>>>>> 2002 Ford, Lincoln and Mercury trucks and SUVS and beyond (yellow)
>>>>> 2003 Ford, Lincoln, and Mercury automobiles and beyond (yellow)
>>>>>
>>>>> You are certainly free to use Prestone, but this is what DC warns you
>>>>> will
>>>>> happen:
>>>>> http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2102424208
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> "Carl" <carlsaiyed@hotmailREMOVE.com> wrote in message
>>>>> news:-NOdnQz-NLK3Ke7YnZ2dnUVZ_rWdnZ2d@comcast.com...
>>>>> > Flushed my coolant today. I put the prestone tee in one of the
>>>>> > heater
>>>>> > hoses and completely flushed everything untill clear water came out.
>>>>> > Here's what's got me baffled... When the guy at Firestone checked it
>>>> with
>>>>> > the tester, it was brown. The coolant that came out of the motor was
>>>>> > reasonably green. Suprise #2: I bought the Zerex G-05 in the Gold
>>>>> > jug..
>>>>> > the coolant was CLEAR!! Wierd!! Why is it that you have to use the
>>>>> > G-05
>>>>> > instead of the regular prestone?
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Thanks,
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Carl
>>>>> >
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>
think. 2000TJ, I plan to keep it at a 50-50 mix.
Already planned on cleaning the expansion tank. This is my dilemma, the last
time I flushed a cooling system myself (not including when the new rad was
installed in the TJ in May of 2004, and then I didn't backflush completely)
I didn't live where I am now. I have well-water here with lots of iron in
it, I am wondering if it would be OK to flush the system with this. I can
flush either with straight well water or water that's been through the
softener; however considering the softener element is flushed periodically
with a brine solution, I think that would be a bad idea.
I also plan to replace the rad & heater hoses.
"billy ray" <billy_ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message
news:8c9be$4574bd85$422afc51$4901@FUSE.NET...
>3 gallons? What is the capacity of your cooling system?
>
> I used 2 gallons in my 15 quart system which gives me 53.3% = - 43/+267
> coverage
>
> Maximum coverage is achieved at 68%, greater than that the coverage
> actually decreases rapidly
>
> http://s112.photobucket.com/albums/n...lant%20Charts/
>
> Be sure to clean the expansion tank also. If you have a layer of slime or
> scum you may want to use a flush (mild) or cleaner (harsh) solution.
>
> It would be worthwhile to be sure the heater core is drained or flushed
> with distilled water. The minerals in tap water promote corrosion.
>
>
>
>
>
> "Matt Macchiarolo" <matt@nospamplease.com> wrote in message
> news:keudnaDlae3mNunYnZ2dnUVZ_sGdnZ2d@comcast.com. ..
>>I just got three gallons of the Zerex G-05 for the TJ, which I plan to
>>flush & fill this week if it gets above freezing, replacing the Zerex
>>green. Billy, any advice? (I already have the flush tee installed.)
>>
>> "billy ray" <billy_ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message
>> news:b5b03$457451e4$422afc51$13637@FUSE.NET...
>>> It is hard to say. Industry publications say that the 'automotive'
>>> Prestones are all OAT which is what DexCool uses. The Peak marketed
>>> specifically for DC, Ford and Mercedes is OAT according to the Peak
>>> website.
>>>
>>> Most brands either claim OAT or refuse to reveal what anti corrosive
>>> package they use.
>>>
>>> If you want the old fashioned "Green' coolant it is/was using IAT
>>> anti-corrosives. The only company I know for sure still makes it is
>>> Zerex in the white jug.
>>>
>>> The new stuff is G-05 (HOAT or Glysantin) spec. I wouldn't use anything
>>> that doesn't say it contains one or more of these terms in big letters
>>> on the bottle. I would avoid products that don't list the package used
>>> and only say things like 'recommended for'. If it meets the G-05
>>> standard it will say so clearly.
>>>
>>> Wal-Mart used to post MSDS sheets online somewhere, it may well tell you
>>> who the original manufacturer is and the chemical composition (other
>>> than the ethylene glycol base)
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> "Earle Horton" <el_anglo_burgues@usa.com> wrote in message
>>> news:45745947$0$3480$a82e2bb9@reader.athenanews.co m...
>>>>I wonder what is in the WalMart no-name concentrate? It appears to be
>>>>pale
>>>> yellow too. They also sell the Prestone 50/50 mix, for the same price
>>>> as
>>>> the no-name concentrate.
>>>>
>>>> Earle
>>>>
>>>> "billy ray" <billy_ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message
>>>> news:e0620$4573be4d$422afc51$9785@FUSE.NET...
>>>>> Zerex G-05 in the aftermarket is pale yellow.
>>>>> http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...18433873&idx=5
>>>>>
>>>>> In other applications it is:
>>>>> (http://www.valvoline.com/pages/produ...asp?product=10)
>>>>> What vehicles use Zerex G-05 in the factory fill and what is the dye
>>>> color?
>>>>> 1984 Mercedes and beyond (light yellow)
>>>>> 1990 Deere and Company vehicles and beyond (green)
>>>>> 2001 Chrysler, Dodge, and Jeep and beyond (orange)
>>>>> 2002 Ford, Lincoln and Mercury trucks and SUVS and beyond (yellow)
>>>>> 2003 Ford, Lincoln, and Mercury automobiles and beyond (yellow)
>>>>>
>>>>> You are certainly free to use Prestone, but this is what DC warns you
>>>>> will
>>>>> happen:
>>>>> http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2102424208
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> "Carl" <carlsaiyed@hotmailREMOVE.com> wrote in message
>>>>> news:-NOdnQz-NLK3Ke7YnZ2dnUVZ_rWdnZ2d@comcast.com...
>>>>> > Flushed my coolant today. I put the prestone tee in one of the
>>>>> > heater
>>>>> > hoses and completely flushed everything untill clear water came out.
>>>>> > Here's what's got me baffled... When the guy at Firestone checked it
>>>> with
>>>>> > the tester, it was brown. The coolant that came out of the motor was
>>>>> > reasonably green. Suprise #2: I bought the Zerex G-05 in the Gold
>>>>> > jug..
>>>>> > the coolant was CLEAR!! Wierd!! Why is it that you have to use the
>>>>> > G-05
>>>>> > instead of the regular prestone?
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Thanks,
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Carl
>>>>> >
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>
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Re: Coolant suprise
Earle Horton wrote:
> It would be helpful to know if the cheap-*** (pardon my French) stuff is
> "safe for all uses" like it says on the can.
Don't believe everything you read. Technical writers love to dazzle you
with --------. The 'cheap-*** stuff' is for morons who want to buy the
cheapest crap they can get, and frankly...
....YOU GET WHAT YOU PAY FOR!
Nothing but G-05 goes into my TJL, and the water mix will always be
bottled and purified. For that big $20-bill twice a year, I can afford
to be choosy!
> It would be helpful to know if the cheap-*** (pardon my French) stuff is
> "safe for all uses" like it says on the can.
Don't believe everything you read. Technical writers love to dazzle you
with --------. The 'cheap-*** stuff' is for morons who want to buy the
cheapest crap they can get, and frankly...
....YOU GET WHAT YOU PAY FOR!
Nothing but G-05 goes into my TJL, and the water mix will always be
bottled and purified. For that big $20-bill twice a year, I can afford
to be choosy!
#33
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Re: Coolant suprise
Earle Horton wrote:
> It would be helpful to know if the cheap-*** (pardon my French) stuff is
> "safe for all uses" like it says on the can.
Don't believe everything you read. Technical writers love to dazzle you
with --------. The 'cheap-*** stuff' is for morons who want to buy the
cheapest crap they can get, and frankly...
....YOU GET WHAT YOU PAY FOR!
Nothing but G-05 goes into my TJL, and the water mix will always be
bottled and purified. For that big $20-bill twice a year, I can afford
to be choosy!
> It would be helpful to know if the cheap-*** (pardon my French) stuff is
> "safe for all uses" like it says on the can.
Don't believe everything you read. Technical writers love to dazzle you
with --------. The 'cheap-*** stuff' is for morons who want to buy the
cheapest crap they can get, and frankly...
....YOU GET WHAT YOU PAY FOR!
Nothing but G-05 goes into my TJL, and the water mix will always be
bottled and purified. For that big $20-bill twice a year, I can afford
to be choosy!
#34
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Posts: n/a
Re: Coolant suprise
Earle Horton wrote:
> It would be helpful to know if the cheap-*** (pardon my French) stuff is
> "safe for all uses" like it says on the can.
Don't believe everything you read. Technical writers love to dazzle you
with --------. The 'cheap-*** stuff' is for morons who want to buy the
cheapest crap they can get, and frankly...
....YOU GET WHAT YOU PAY FOR!
Nothing but G-05 goes into my TJL, and the water mix will always be
bottled and purified. For that big $20-bill twice a year, I can afford
to be choosy!
> It would be helpful to know if the cheap-*** (pardon my French) stuff is
> "safe for all uses" like it says on the can.
Don't believe everything you read. Technical writers love to dazzle you
with --------. The 'cheap-*** stuff' is for morons who want to buy the
cheapest crap they can get, and frankly...
....YOU GET WHAT YOU PAY FOR!
Nothing but G-05 goes into my TJL, and the water mix will always be
bottled and purified. For that big $20-bill twice a year, I can afford
to be choosy!
#35
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Re: Coolant suprise
"Outatime" <user@example.net> wrote in message
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> Earle Horton wrote:
>
> > It would be helpful to know if the cheap-*** (pardon my French)
> > stuff is "safe for all uses" like it says on the can.
>
> Don't believe everything you read. Technical writers love to dazzle you
> with --------. The 'cheap-*** stuff' is for morons who want to buy the
> cheapest crap they can get, and frankly...
>
> ...YOU GET WHAT YOU PAY FOR!
>
That's an interesting theory, and I am no chemist, but I understand part of
the drive for the new compounds is that they are EPA friendly (as opposed to
environment friendly). I figure if it is cheap, it is probably the minimum
they could squeak by the EPA, but maybe good for your car. You do not
always get what you pay for. Priced a hybrid recently? ;^) It won't cost
me anything to read that label.
Earle
news:6qadnacjg7wGV-nYnZ2dnUVZ_vGdnZ2d@softcom.net...
> Earle Horton wrote:
>
> > It would be helpful to know if the cheap-*** (pardon my French)
> > stuff is "safe for all uses" like it says on the can.
>
> Don't believe everything you read. Technical writers love to dazzle you
> with --------. The 'cheap-*** stuff' is for morons who want to buy the
> cheapest crap they can get, and frankly...
>
> ...YOU GET WHAT YOU PAY FOR!
>
That's an interesting theory, and I am no chemist, but I understand part of
the drive for the new compounds is that they are EPA friendly (as opposed to
environment friendly). I figure if it is cheap, it is probably the minimum
they could squeak by the EPA, but maybe good for your car. You do not
always get what you pay for. Priced a hybrid recently? ;^) It won't cost
me anything to read that label.
Earle
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Re: Coolant suprise
"Outatime" <user@example.net> wrote in message
news:6qadnacjg7wGV-nYnZ2dnUVZ_vGdnZ2d@softcom.net...
> Earle Horton wrote:
>
> > It would be helpful to know if the cheap-*** (pardon my French)
> > stuff is "safe for all uses" like it says on the can.
>
> Don't believe everything you read. Technical writers love to dazzle you
> with --------. The 'cheap-*** stuff' is for morons who want to buy the
> cheapest crap they can get, and frankly...
>
> ...YOU GET WHAT YOU PAY FOR!
>
That's an interesting theory, and I am no chemist, but I understand part of
the drive for the new compounds is that they are EPA friendly (as opposed to
environment friendly). I figure if it is cheap, it is probably the minimum
they could squeak by the EPA, but maybe good for your car. You do not
always get what you pay for. Priced a hybrid recently? ;^) It won't cost
me anything to read that label.
Earle
news:6qadnacjg7wGV-nYnZ2dnUVZ_vGdnZ2d@softcom.net...
> Earle Horton wrote:
>
> > It would be helpful to know if the cheap-*** (pardon my French)
> > stuff is "safe for all uses" like it says on the can.
>
> Don't believe everything you read. Technical writers love to dazzle you
> with --------. The 'cheap-*** stuff' is for morons who want to buy the
> cheapest crap they can get, and frankly...
>
> ...YOU GET WHAT YOU PAY FOR!
>
That's an interesting theory, and I am no chemist, but I understand part of
the drive for the new compounds is that they are EPA friendly (as opposed to
environment friendly). I figure if it is cheap, it is probably the minimum
they could squeak by the EPA, but maybe good for your car. You do not
always get what you pay for. Priced a hybrid recently? ;^) It won't cost
me anything to read that label.
Earle
#37
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Re: Coolant suprise
"Outatime" <user@example.net> wrote in message
news:6qadnacjg7wGV-nYnZ2dnUVZ_vGdnZ2d@softcom.net...
> Earle Horton wrote:
>
> > It would be helpful to know if the cheap-*** (pardon my French)
> > stuff is "safe for all uses" like it says on the can.
>
> Don't believe everything you read. Technical writers love to dazzle you
> with --------. The 'cheap-*** stuff' is for morons who want to buy the
> cheapest crap they can get, and frankly...
>
> ...YOU GET WHAT YOU PAY FOR!
>
That's an interesting theory, and I am no chemist, but I understand part of
the drive for the new compounds is that they are EPA friendly (as opposed to
environment friendly). I figure if it is cheap, it is probably the minimum
they could squeak by the EPA, but maybe good for your car. You do not
always get what you pay for. Priced a hybrid recently? ;^) It won't cost
me anything to read that label.
Earle
news:6qadnacjg7wGV-nYnZ2dnUVZ_vGdnZ2d@softcom.net...
> Earle Horton wrote:
>
> > It would be helpful to know if the cheap-*** (pardon my French)
> > stuff is "safe for all uses" like it says on the can.
>
> Don't believe everything you read. Technical writers love to dazzle you
> with --------. The 'cheap-*** stuff' is for morons who want to buy the
> cheapest crap they can get, and frankly...
>
> ...YOU GET WHAT YOU PAY FOR!
>
That's an interesting theory, and I am no chemist, but I understand part of
the drive for the new compounds is that they are EPA friendly (as opposed to
environment friendly). I figure if it is cheap, it is probably the minimum
they could squeak by the EPA, but maybe good for your car. You do not
always get what you pay for. Priced a hybrid recently? ;^) It won't cost
me anything to read that label.
Earle
#38
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Re: Coolant suprise
The 4 cylinder YJ takes a gallon and a half for about a 60/40 mix. I doubt
the six cylinder takes much more.
Earle
"Matt Macchiarolo" <matt@nospamplease.com> wrote in message
news:f8ydncxdxcUJWenYnZ2dnUVZ_qednZ2d@comcast.com. ..
> I got a third gallon as well, for emergencies. Capacity is 12 quarts, I
> think. 2000TJ, I plan to keep it at a 50-50 mix.
>
> Already planned on cleaning the expansion tank. This is my dilemma, the
last
> time I flushed a cooling system myself (not including when the new rad was
> installed in the TJ in May of 2004, and then I didn't backflush
completely)
> I didn't live where I am now. I have well-water here with lots of iron in
> it, I am wondering if it would be OK to flush the system with this. I can
> flush either with straight well water or water that's been through the
> softener; however considering the softener element is flushed periodically
> with a brine solution, I think that would be a bad idea.
>
> I also plan to replace the rad & heater hoses.
>
> "billy ray" <billy_ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message
> news:8c9be$4574bd85$422afc51$4901@FUSE.NET...
> >3 gallons? What is the capacity of your cooling system?
> >
> > I used 2 gallons in my 15 quart system which gives me 53.3% = - 43/+267
> > coverage
> >
> > Maximum coverage is achieved at 68%, greater than that the coverage
> > actually decreases rapidly
> >
> >
http://s112.photobucket.com/albums/n...lant%20Charts/
> >
> > Be sure to clean the expansion tank also. If you have a layer of slime
or
> > scum you may want to use a flush (mild) or cleaner (harsh) solution.
> >
> > It would be worthwhile to be sure the heater core is drained or flushed
> > with distilled water. The minerals in tap water promote corrosion.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > "Matt Macchiarolo" <matt@nospamplease.com> wrote in message
> > news:keudnaDlae3mNunYnZ2dnUVZ_sGdnZ2d@comcast.com. ..
> >>I just got three gallons of the Zerex G-05 for the TJ, which I plan to
> >>flush & fill this week if it gets above freezing, replacing the Zerex
> >>green. Billy, any advice? (I already have the flush tee installed.)
> >>
> >> "billy ray" <billy_ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message
> >> news:b5b03$457451e4$422afc51$13637@FUSE.NET...
> >>> It is hard to say. Industry publications say that the 'automotive'
> >>> Prestones are all OAT which is what DexCool uses. The Peak marketed
> >>> specifically for DC, Ford and Mercedes is OAT according to the Peak
> >>> website.
> >>>
> >>> Most brands either claim OAT or refuse to reveal what anti corrosive
> >>> package they use.
> >>>
> >>> If you want the old fashioned "Green' coolant it is/was using IAT
> >>> anti-corrosives. The only company I know for sure still makes it is
> >>> Zerex in the white jug.
> >>>
> >>> The new stuff is G-05 (HOAT or Glysantin) spec. I wouldn't use
anything
> >>> that doesn't say it contains one or more of these terms in big letters
> >>> on the bottle. I would avoid products that don't list the package
used
> >>> and only say things like 'recommended for'. If it meets the G-05
> >>> standard it will say so clearly.
> >>>
> >>> Wal-Mart used to post MSDS sheets online somewhere, it may well tell
you
> >>> who the original manufacturer is and the chemical composition (other
> >>> than the ethylene glycol base)
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> "Earle Horton" <el_anglo_burgues@usa.com> wrote in message
> >>> news:45745947$0$3480$a82e2bb9@reader.athenanews.co m...
> >>>>I wonder what is in the WalMart no-name concentrate? It appears to be
> >>>>pale
> >>>> yellow too. They also sell the Prestone 50/50 mix, for the same
price
> >>>> as
> >>>> the no-name concentrate.
> >>>>
> >>>> Earle
> >>>>
> >>>> "billy ray" <billy_ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message
> >>>> news:e0620$4573be4d$422afc51$9785@FUSE.NET...
> >>>>> Zerex G-05 in the aftermarket is pale yellow.
> >>>>> http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...18433873&idx=5
> >>>>>
> >>>>> In other applications it is:
> >>>>>
(http://www.valvoline.com/pages/produ...asp?product=10)
> >>>>> What vehicles use Zerex G-05 in the factory fill and what is the dye
> >>>> color?
> >>>>> 1984 Mercedes and beyond (light yellow)
> >>>>> 1990 Deere and Company vehicles and beyond (green)
> >>>>> 2001 Chrysler, Dodge, and Jeep and beyond (orange)
> >>>>> 2002 Ford, Lincoln and Mercury trucks and SUVS and beyond (yellow)
> >>>>> 2003 Ford, Lincoln, and Mercury automobiles and beyond (yellow)
> >>>>>
> >>>>> You are certainly free to use Prestone, but this is what DC warns
you
> >>>>> will
> >>>>> happen:
> >>>>> http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2102424208
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> "Carl" <carlsaiyed@hotmailREMOVE.com> wrote in message
> >>>>> news:-NOdnQz-NLK3Ke7YnZ2dnUVZ_rWdnZ2d@comcast.com...
> >>>>> > Flushed my coolant today. I put the prestone tee in one of the
> >>>>> > heater
> >>>>> > hoses and completely flushed everything untill clear water came
out.
> >>>>> > Here's what's got me baffled... When the guy at Firestone checked
it
> >>>> with
> >>>>> > the tester, it was brown. The coolant that came out of the motor
was
> >>>>> > reasonably green. Suprise #2: I bought the Zerex G-05 in the Gold
> >>>>> > jug..
> >>>>> > the coolant was CLEAR!! Wierd!! Why is it that you have to use the
> >>>>> > G-05
> >>>>> > instead of the regular prestone?
> >>>>> >
> >>>>> > Thanks,
> >>>>> >
> >>>>> > Carl
> >>>>> >
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
>
>
the six cylinder takes much more.
Earle
"Matt Macchiarolo" <matt@nospamplease.com> wrote in message
news:f8ydncxdxcUJWenYnZ2dnUVZ_qednZ2d@comcast.com. ..
> I got a third gallon as well, for emergencies. Capacity is 12 quarts, I
> think. 2000TJ, I plan to keep it at a 50-50 mix.
>
> Already planned on cleaning the expansion tank. This is my dilemma, the
last
> time I flushed a cooling system myself (not including when the new rad was
> installed in the TJ in May of 2004, and then I didn't backflush
completely)
> I didn't live where I am now. I have well-water here with lots of iron in
> it, I am wondering if it would be OK to flush the system with this. I can
> flush either with straight well water or water that's been through the
> softener; however considering the softener element is flushed periodically
> with a brine solution, I think that would be a bad idea.
>
> I also plan to replace the rad & heater hoses.
>
> "billy ray" <billy_ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message
> news:8c9be$4574bd85$422afc51$4901@FUSE.NET...
> >3 gallons? What is the capacity of your cooling system?
> >
> > I used 2 gallons in my 15 quart system which gives me 53.3% = - 43/+267
> > coverage
> >
> > Maximum coverage is achieved at 68%, greater than that the coverage
> > actually decreases rapidly
> >
> >
http://s112.photobucket.com/albums/n...lant%20Charts/
> >
> > Be sure to clean the expansion tank also. If you have a layer of slime
or
> > scum you may want to use a flush (mild) or cleaner (harsh) solution.
> >
> > It would be worthwhile to be sure the heater core is drained or flushed
> > with distilled water. The minerals in tap water promote corrosion.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > "Matt Macchiarolo" <matt@nospamplease.com> wrote in message
> > news:keudnaDlae3mNunYnZ2dnUVZ_sGdnZ2d@comcast.com. ..
> >>I just got three gallons of the Zerex G-05 for the TJ, which I plan to
> >>flush & fill this week if it gets above freezing, replacing the Zerex
> >>green. Billy, any advice? (I already have the flush tee installed.)
> >>
> >> "billy ray" <billy_ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message
> >> news:b5b03$457451e4$422afc51$13637@FUSE.NET...
> >>> It is hard to say. Industry publications say that the 'automotive'
> >>> Prestones are all OAT which is what DexCool uses. The Peak marketed
> >>> specifically for DC, Ford and Mercedes is OAT according to the Peak
> >>> website.
> >>>
> >>> Most brands either claim OAT or refuse to reveal what anti corrosive
> >>> package they use.
> >>>
> >>> If you want the old fashioned "Green' coolant it is/was using IAT
> >>> anti-corrosives. The only company I know for sure still makes it is
> >>> Zerex in the white jug.
> >>>
> >>> The new stuff is G-05 (HOAT or Glysantin) spec. I wouldn't use
anything
> >>> that doesn't say it contains one or more of these terms in big letters
> >>> on the bottle. I would avoid products that don't list the package
used
> >>> and only say things like 'recommended for'. If it meets the G-05
> >>> standard it will say so clearly.
> >>>
> >>> Wal-Mart used to post MSDS sheets online somewhere, it may well tell
you
> >>> who the original manufacturer is and the chemical composition (other
> >>> than the ethylene glycol base)
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> "Earle Horton" <el_anglo_burgues@usa.com> wrote in message
> >>> news:45745947$0$3480$a82e2bb9@reader.athenanews.co m...
> >>>>I wonder what is in the WalMart no-name concentrate? It appears to be
> >>>>pale
> >>>> yellow too. They also sell the Prestone 50/50 mix, for the same
price
> >>>> as
> >>>> the no-name concentrate.
> >>>>
> >>>> Earle
> >>>>
> >>>> "billy ray" <billy_ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message
> >>>> news:e0620$4573be4d$422afc51$9785@FUSE.NET...
> >>>>> Zerex G-05 in the aftermarket is pale yellow.
> >>>>> http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...18433873&idx=5
> >>>>>
> >>>>> In other applications it is:
> >>>>>
(http://www.valvoline.com/pages/produ...asp?product=10)
> >>>>> What vehicles use Zerex G-05 in the factory fill and what is the dye
> >>>> color?
> >>>>> 1984 Mercedes and beyond (light yellow)
> >>>>> 1990 Deere and Company vehicles and beyond (green)
> >>>>> 2001 Chrysler, Dodge, and Jeep and beyond (orange)
> >>>>> 2002 Ford, Lincoln and Mercury trucks and SUVS and beyond (yellow)
> >>>>> 2003 Ford, Lincoln, and Mercury automobiles and beyond (yellow)
> >>>>>
> >>>>> You are certainly free to use Prestone, but this is what DC warns
you
> >>>>> will
> >>>>> happen:
> >>>>> http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2102424208
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> "Carl" <carlsaiyed@hotmailREMOVE.com> wrote in message
> >>>>> news:-NOdnQz-NLK3Ke7YnZ2dnUVZ_rWdnZ2d@comcast.com...
> >>>>> > Flushed my coolant today. I put the prestone tee in one of the
> >>>>> > heater
> >>>>> > hoses and completely flushed everything untill clear water came
out.
> >>>>> > Here's what's got me baffled... When the guy at Firestone checked
it
> >>>> with
> >>>>> > the tester, it was brown. The coolant that came out of the motor
was
> >>>>> > reasonably green. Suprise #2: I bought the Zerex G-05 in the Gold
> >>>>> > jug..
> >>>>> > the coolant was CLEAR!! Wierd!! Why is it that you have to use the
> >>>>> > G-05
> >>>>> > instead of the regular prestone?
> >>>>> >
> >>>>> > Thanks,
> >>>>> >
> >>>>> > Carl
> >>>>> >
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
>
>
#39
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Coolant suprise
The 4 cylinder YJ takes a gallon and a half for about a 60/40 mix. I doubt
the six cylinder takes much more.
Earle
"Matt Macchiarolo" <matt@nospamplease.com> wrote in message
news:f8ydncxdxcUJWenYnZ2dnUVZ_qednZ2d@comcast.com. ..
> I got a third gallon as well, for emergencies. Capacity is 12 quarts, I
> think. 2000TJ, I plan to keep it at a 50-50 mix.
>
> Already planned on cleaning the expansion tank. This is my dilemma, the
last
> time I flushed a cooling system myself (not including when the new rad was
> installed in the TJ in May of 2004, and then I didn't backflush
completely)
> I didn't live where I am now. I have well-water here with lots of iron in
> it, I am wondering if it would be OK to flush the system with this. I can
> flush either with straight well water or water that's been through the
> softener; however considering the softener element is flushed periodically
> with a brine solution, I think that would be a bad idea.
>
> I also plan to replace the rad & heater hoses.
>
> "billy ray" <billy_ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message
> news:8c9be$4574bd85$422afc51$4901@FUSE.NET...
> >3 gallons? What is the capacity of your cooling system?
> >
> > I used 2 gallons in my 15 quart system which gives me 53.3% = - 43/+267
> > coverage
> >
> > Maximum coverage is achieved at 68%, greater than that the coverage
> > actually decreases rapidly
> >
> >
http://s112.photobucket.com/albums/n...lant%20Charts/
> >
> > Be sure to clean the expansion tank also. If you have a layer of slime
or
> > scum you may want to use a flush (mild) or cleaner (harsh) solution.
> >
> > It would be worthwhile to be sure the heater core is drained or flushed
> > with distilled water. The minerals in tap water promote corrosion.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > "Matt Macchiarolo" <matt@nospamplease.com> wrote in message
> > news:keudnaDlae3mNunYnZ2dnUVZ_sGdnZ2d@comcast.com. ..
> >>I just got three gallons of the Zerex G-05 for the TJ, which I plan to
> >>flush & fill this week if it gets above freezing, replacing the Zerex
> >>green. Billy, any advice? (I already have the flush tee installed.)
> >>
> >> "billy ray" <billy_ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message
> >> news:b5b03$457451e4$422afc51$13637@FUSE.NET...
> >>> It is hard to say. Industry publications say that the 'automotive'
> >>> Prestones are all OAT which is what DexCool uses. The Peak marketed
> >>> specifically for DC, Ford and Mercedes is OAT according to the Peak
> >>> website.
> >>>
> >>> Most brands either claim OAT or refuse to reveal what anti corrosive
> >>> package they use.
> >>>
> >>> If you want the old fashioned "Green' coolant it is/was using IAT
> >>> anti-corrosives. The only company I know for sure still makes it is
> >>> Zerex in the white jug.
> >>>
> >>> The new stuff is G-05 (HOAT or Glysantin) spec. I wouldn't use
anything
> >>> that doesn't say it contains one or more of these terms in big letters
> >>> on the bottle. I would avoid products that don't list the package
used
> >>> and only say things like 'recommended for'. If it meets the G-05
> >>> standard it will say so clearly.
> >>>
> >>> Wal-Mart used to post MSDS sheets online somewhere, it may well tell
you
> >>> who the original manufacturer is and the chemical composition (other
> >>> than the ethylene glycol base)
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> "Earle Horton" <el_anglo_burgues@usa.com> wrote in message
> >>> news:45745947$0$3480$a82e2bb9@reader.athenanews.co m...
> >>>>I wonder what is in the WalMart no-name concentrate? It appears to be
> >>>>pale
> >>>> yellow too. They also sell the Prestone 50/50 mix, for the same
price
> >>>> as
> >>>> the no-name concentrate.
> >>>>
> >>>> Earle
> >>>>
> >>>> "billy ray" <billy_ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message
> >>>> news:e0620$4573be4d$422afc51$9785@FUSE.NET...
> >>>>> Zerex G-05 in the aftermarket is pale yellow.
> >>>>> http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...18433873&idx=5
> >>>>>
> >>>>> In other applications it is:
> >>>>>
(http://www.valvoline.com/pages/produ...asp?product=10)
> >>>>> What vehicles use Zerex G-05 in the factory fill and what is the dye
> >>>> color?
> >>>>> 1984 Mercedes and beyond (light yellow)
> >>>>> 1990 Deere and Company vehicles and beyond (green)
> >>>>> 2001 Chrysler, Dodge, and Jeep and beyond (orange)
> >>>>> 2002 Ford, Lincoln and Mercury trucks and SUVS and beyond (yellow)
> >>>>> 2003 Ford, Lincoln, and Mercury automobiles and beyond (yellow)
> >>>>>
> >>>>> You are certainly free to use Prestone, but this is what DC warns
you
> >>>>> will
> >>>>> happen:
> >>>>> http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2102424208
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> "Carl" <carlsaiyed@hotmailREMOVE.com> wrote in message
> >>>>> news:-NOdnQz-NLK3Ke7YnZ2dnUVZ_rWdnZ2d@comcast.com...
> >>>>> > Flushed my coolant today. I put the prestone tee in one of the
> >>>>> > heater
> >>>>> > hoses and completely flushed everything untill clear water came
out.
> >>>>> > Here's what's got me baffled... When the guy at Firestone checked
it
> >>>> with
> >>>>> > the tester, it was brown. The coolant that came out of the motor
was
> >>>>> > reasonably green. Suprise #2: I bought the Zerex G-05 in the Gold
> >>>>> > jug..
> >>>>> > the coolant was CLEAR!! Wierd!! Why is it that you have to use the
> >>>>> > G-05
> >>>>> > instead of the regular prestone?
> >>>>> >
> >>>>> > Thanks,
> >>>>> >
> >>>>> > Carl
> >>>>> >
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
>
>
the six cylinder takes much more.
Earle
"Matt Macchiarolo" <matt@nospamplease.com> wrote in message
news:f8ydncxdxcUJWenYnZ2dnUVZ_qednZ2d@comcast.com. ..
> I got a third gallon as well, for emergencies. Capacity is 12 quarts, I
> think. 2000TJ, I plan to keep it at a 50-50 mix.
>
> Already planned on cleaning the expansion tank. This is my dilemma, the
last
> time I flushed a cooling system myself (not including when the new rad was
> installed in the TJ in May of 2004, and then I didn't backflush
completely)
> I didn't live where I am now. I have well-water here with lots of iron in
> it, I am wondering if it would be OK to flush the system with this. I can
> flush either with straight well water or water that's been through the
> softener; however considering the softener element is flushed periodically
> with a brine solution, I think that would be a bad idea.
>
> I also plan to replace the rad & heater hoses.
>
> "billy ray" <billy_ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message
> news:8c9be$4574bd85$422afc51$4901@FUSE.NET...
> >3 gallons? What is the capacity of your cooling system?
> >
> > I used 2 gallons in my 15 quart system which gives me 53.3% = - 43/+267
> > coverage
> >
> > Maximum coverage is achieved at 68%, greater than that the coverage
> > actually decreases rapidly
> >
> >
http://s112.photobucket.com/albums/n...lant%20Charts/
> >
> > Be sure to clean the expansion tank also. If you have a layer of slime
or
> > scum you may want to use a flush (mild) or cleaner (harsh) solution.
> >
> > It would be worthwhile to be sure the heater core is drained or flushed
> > with distilled water. The minerals in tap water promote corrosion.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > "Matt Macchiarolo" <matt@nospamplease.com> wrote in message
> > news:keudnaDlae3mNunYnZ2dnUVZ_sGdnZ2d@comcast.com. ..
> >>I just got three gallons of the Zerex G-05 for the TJ, which I plan to
> >>flush & fill this week if it gets above freezing, replacing the Zerex
> >>green. Billy, any advice? (I already have the flush tee installed.)
> >>
> >> "billy ray" <billy_ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message
> >> news:b5b03$457451e4$422afc51$13637@FUSE.NET...
> >>> It is hard to say. Industry publications say that the 'automotive'
> >>> Prestones are all OAT which is what DexCool uses. The Peak marketed
> >>> specifically for DC, Ford and Mercedes is OAT according to the Peak
> >>> website.
> >>>
> >>> Most brands either claim OAT or refuse to reveal what anti corrosive
> >>> package they use.
> >>>
> >>> If you want the old fashioned "Green' coolant it is/was using IAT
> >>> anti-corrosives. The only company I know for sure still makes it is
> >>> Zerex in the white jug.
> >>>
> >>> The new stuff is G-05 (HOAT or Glysantin) spec. I wouldn't use
anything
> >>> that doesn't say it contains one or more of these terms in big letters
> >>> on the bottle. I would avoid products that don't list the package
used
> >>> and only say things like 'recommended for'. If it meets the G-05
> >>> standard it will say so clearly.
> >>>
> >>> Wal-Mart used to post MSDS sheets online somewhere, it may well tell
you
> >>> who the original manufacturer is and the chemical composition (other
> >>> than the ethylene glycol base)
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> "Earle Horton" <el_anglo_burgues@usa.com> wrote in message
> >>> news:45745947$0$3480$a82e2bb9@reader.athenanews.co m...
> >>>>I wonder what is in the WalMart no-name concentrate? It appears to be
> >>>>pale
> >>>> yellow too. They also sell the Prestone 50/50 mix, for the same
price
> >>>> as
> >>>> the no-name concentrate.
> >>>>
> >>>> Earle
> >>>>
> >>>> "billy ray" <billy_ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message
> >>>> news:e0620$4573be4d$422afc51$9785@FUSE.NET...
> >>>>> Zerex G-05 in the aftermarket is pale yellow.
> >>>>> http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...18433873&idx=5
> >>>>>
> >>>>> In other applications it is:
> >>>>>
(http://www.valvoline.com/pages/produ...asp?product=10)
> >>>>> What vehicles use Zerex G-05 in the factory fill and what is the dye
> >>>> color?
> >>>>> 1984 Mercedes and beyond (light yellow)
> >>>>> 1990 Deere and Company vehicles and beyond (green)
> >>>>> 2001 Chrysler, Dodge, and Jeep and beyond (orange)
> >>>>> 2002 Ford, Lincoln and Mercury trucks and SUVS and beyond (yellow)
> >>>>> 2003 Ford, Lincoln, and Mercury automobiles and beyond (yellow)
> >>>>>
> >>>>> You are certainly free to use Prestone, but this is what DC warns
you
> >>>>> will
> >>>>> happen:
> >>>>> http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2102424208
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> "Carl" <carlsaiyed@hotmailREMOVE.com> wrote in message
> >>>>> news:-NOdnQz-NLK3Ke7YnZ2dnUVZ_rWdnZ2d@comcast.com...
> >>>>> > Flushed my coolant today. I put the prestone tee in one of the
> >>>>> > heater
> >>>>> > hoses and completely flushed everything untill clear water came
out.
> >>>>> > Here's what's got me baffled... When the guy at Firestone checked
it
> >>>> with
> >>>>> > the tester, it was brown. The coolant that came out of the motor
was
> >>>>> > reasonably green. Suprise #2: I bought the Zerex G-05 in the Gold
> >>>>> > jug..
> >>>>> > the coolant was CLEAR!! Wierd!! Why is it that you have to use the
> >>>>> > G-05
> >>>>> > instead of the regular prestone?
> >>>>> >
> >>>>> > Thanks,
> >>>>> >
> >>>>> > Carl
> >>>>> >
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
>
>
#40
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Coolant suprise
The 4 cylinder YJ takes a gallon and a half for about a 60/40 mix. I doubt
the six cylinder takes much more.
Earle
"Matt Macchiarolo" <matt@nospamplease.com> wrote in message
news:f8ydncxdxcUJWenYnZ2dnUVZ_qednZ2d@comcast.com. ..
> I got a third gallon as well, for emergencies. Capacity is 12 quarts, I
> think. 2000TJ, I plan to keep it at a 50-50 mix.
>
> Already planned on cleaning the expansion tank. This is my dilemma, the
last
> time I flushed a cooling system myself (not including when the new rad was
> installed in the TJ in May of 2004, and then I didn't backflush
completely)
> I didn't live where I am now. I have well-water here with lots of iron in
> it, I am wondering if it would be OK to flush the system with this. I can
> flush either with straight well water or water that's been through the
> softener; however considering the softener element is flushed periodically
> with a brine solution, I think that would be a bad idea.
>
> I also plan to replace the rad & heater hoses.
>
> "billy ray" <billy_ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message
> news:8c9be$4574bd85$422afc51$4901@FUSE.NET...
> >3 gallons? What is the capacity of your cooling system?
> >
> > I used 2 gallons in my 15 quart system which gives me 53.3% = - 43/+267
> > coverage
> >
> > Maximum coverage is achieved at 68%, greater than that the coverage
> > actually decreases rapidly
> >
> >
http://s112.photobucket.com/albums/n...lant%20Charts/
> >
> > Be sure to clean the expansion tank also. If you have a layer of slime
or
> > scum you may want to use a flush (mild) or cleaner (harsh) solution.
> >
> > It would be worthwhile to be sure the heater core is drained or flushed
> > with distilled water. The minerals in tap water promote corrosion.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > "Matt Macchiarolo" <matt@nospamplease.com> wrote in message
> > news:keudnaDlae3mNunYnZ2dnUVZ_sGdnZ2d@comcast.com. ..
> >>I just got three gallons of the Zerex G-05 for the TJ, which I plan to
> >>flush & fill this week if it gets above freezing, replacing the Zerex
> >>green. Billy, any advice? (I already have the flush tee installed.)
> >>
> >> "billy ray" <billy_ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message
> >> news:b5b03$457451e4$422afc51$13637@FUSE.NET...
> >>> It is hard to say. Industry publications say that the 'automotive'
> >>> Prestones are all OAT which is what DexCool uses. The Peak marketed
> >>> specifically for DC, Ford and Mercedes is OAT according to the Peak
> >>> website.
> >>>
> >>> Most brands either claim OAT or refuse to reveal what anti corrosive
> >>> package they use.
> >>>
> >>> If you want the old fashioned "Green' coolant it is/was using IAT
> >>> anti-corrosives. The only company I know for sure still makes it is
> >>> Zerex in the white jug.
> >>>
> >>> The new stuff is G-05 (HOAT or Glysantin) spec. I wouldn't use
anything
> >>> that doesn't say it contains one or more of these terms in big letters
> >>> on the bottle. I would avoid products that don't list the package
used
> >>> and only say things like 'recommended for'. If it meets the G-05
> >>> standard it will say so clearly.
> >>>
> >>> Wal-Mart used to post MSDS sheets online somewhere, it may well tell
you
> >>> who the original manufacturer is and the chemical composition (other
> >>> than the ethylene glycol base)
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> "Earle Horton" <el_anglo_burgues@usa.com> wrote in message
> >>> news:45745947$0$3480$a82e2bb9@reader.athenanews.co m...
> >>>>I wonder what is in the WalMart no-name concentrate? It appears to be
> >>>>pale
> >>>> yellow too. They also sell the Prestone 50/50 mix, for the same
price
> >>>> as
> >>>> the no-name concentrate.
> >>>>
> >>>> Earle
> >>>>
> >>>> "billy ray" <billy_ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message
> >>>> news:e0620$4573be4d$422afc51$9785@FUSE.NET...
> >>>>> Zerex G-05 in the aftermarket is pale yellow.
> >>>>> http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...18433873&idx=5
> >>>>>
> >>>>> In other applications it is:
> >>>>>
(http://www.valvoline.com/pages/produ...asp?product=10)
> >>>>> What vehicles use Zerex G-05 in the factory fill and what is the dye
> >>>> color?
> >>>>> 1984 Mercedes and beyond (light yellow)
> >>>>> 1990 Deere and Company vehicles and beyond (green)
> >>>>> 2001 Chrysler, Dodge, and Jeep and beyond (orange)
> >>>>> 2002 Ford, Lincoln and Mercury trucks and SUVS and beyond (yellow)
> >>>>> 2003 Ford, Lincoln, and Mercury automobiles and beyond (yellow)
> >>>>>
> >>>>> You are certainly free to use Prestone, but this is what DC warns
you
> >>>>> will
> >>>>> happen:
> >>>>> http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2102424208
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> "Carl" <carlsaiyed@hotmailREMOVE.com> wrote in message
> >>>>> news:-NOdnQz-NLK3Ke7YnZ2dnUVZ_rWdnZ2d@comcast.com...
> >>>>> > Flushed my coolant today. I put the prestone tee in one of the
> >>>>> > heater
> >>>>> > hoses and completely flushed everything untill clear water came
out.
> >>>>> > Here's what's got me baffled... When the guy at Firestone checked
it
> >>>> with
> >>>>> > the tester, it was brown. The coolant that came out of the motor
was
> >>>>> > reasonably green. Suprise #2: I bought the Zerex G-05 in the Gold
> >>>>> > jug..
> >>>>> > the coolant was CLEAR!! Wierd!! Why is it that you have to use the
> >>>>> > G-05
> >>>>> > instead of the regular prestone?
> >>>>> >
> >>>>> > Thanks,
> >>>>> >
> >>>>> > Carl
> >>>>> >
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
>
>
the six cylinder takes much more.
Earle
"Matt Macchiarolo" <matt@nospamplease.com> wrote in message
news:f8ydncxdxcUJWenYnZ2dnUVZ_qednZ2d@comcast.com. ..
> I got a third gallon as well, for emergencies. Capacity is 12 quarts, I
> think. 2000TJ, I plan to keep it at a 50-50 mix.
>
> Already planned on cleaning the expansion tank. This is my dilemma, the
last
> time I flushed a cooling system myself (not including when the new rad was
> installed in the TJ in May of 2004, and then I didn't backflush
completely)
> I didn't live where I am now. I have well-water here with lots of iron in
> it, I am wondering if it would be OK to flush the system with this. I can
> flush either with straight well water or water that's been through the
> softener; however considering the softener element is flushed periodically
> with a brine solution, I think that would be a bad idea.
>
> I also plan to replace the rad & heater hoses.
>
> "billy ray" <billy_ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message
> news:8c9be$4574bd85$422afc51$4901@FUSE.NET...
> >3 gallons? What is the capacity of your cooling system?
> >
> > I used 2 gallons in my 15 quart system which gives me 53.3% = - 43/+267
> > coverage
> >
> > Maximum coverage is achieved at 68%, greater than that the coverage
> > actually decreases rapidly
> >
> >
http://s112.photobucket.com/albums/n...lant%20Charts/
> >
> > Be sure to clean the expansion tank also. If you have a layer of slime
or
> > scum you may want to use a flush (mild) or cleaner (harsh) solution.
> >
> > It would be worthwhile to be sure the heater core is drained or flushed
> > with distilled water. The minerals in tap water promote corrosion.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > "Matt Macchiarolo" <matt@nospamplease.com> wrote in message
> > news:keudnaDlae3mNunYnZ2dnUVZ_sGdnZ2d@comcast.com. ..
> >>I just got three gallons of the Zerex G-05 for the TJ, which I plan to
> >>flush & fill this week if it gets above freezing, replacing the Zerex
> >>green. Billy, any advice? (I already have the flush tee installed.)
> >>
> >> "billy ray" <billy_ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message
> >> news:b5b03$457451e4$422afc51$13637@FUSE.NET...
> >>> It is hard to say. Industry publications say that the 'automotive'
> >>> Prestones are all OAT which is what DexCool uses. The Peak marketed
> >>> specifically for DC, Ford and Mercedes is OAT according to the Peak
> >>> website.
> >>>
> >>> Most brands either claim OAT or refuse to reveal what anti corrosive
> >>> package they use.
> >>>
> >>> If you want the old fashioned "Green' coolant it is/was using IAT
> >>> anti-corrosives. The only company I know for sure still makes it is
> >>> Zerex in the white jug.
> >>>
> >>> The new stuff is G-05 (HOAT or Glysantin) spec. I wouldn't use
anything
> >>> that doesn't say it contains one or more of these terms in big letters
> >>> on the bottle. I would avoid products that don't list the package
used
> >>> and only say things like 'recommended for'. If it meets the G-05
> >>> standard it will say so clearly.
> >>>
> >>> Wal-Mart used to post MSDS sheets online somewhere, it may well tell
you
> >>> who the original manufacturer is and the chemical composition (other
> >>> than the ethylene glycol base)
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> "Earle Horton" <el_anglo_burgues@usa.com> wrote in message
> >>> news:45745947$0$3480$a82e2bb9@reader.athenanews.co m...
> >>>>I wonder what is in the WalMart no-name concentrate? It appears to be
> >>>>pale
> >>>> yellow too. They also sell the Prestone 50/50 mix, for the same
price
> >>>> as
> >>>> the no-name concentrate.
> >>>>
> >>>> Earle
> >>>>
> >>>> "billy ray" <billy_ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message
> >>>> news:e0620$4573be4d$422afc51$9785@FUSE.NET...
> >>>>> Zerex G-05 in the aftermarket is pale yellow.
> >>>>> http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...18433873&idx=5
> >>>>>
> >>>>> In other applications it is:
> >>>>>
(http://www.valvoline.com/pages/produ...asp?product=10)
> >>>>> What vehicles use Zerex G-05 in the factory fill and what is the dye
> >>>> color?
> >>>>> 1984 Mercedes and beyond (light yellow)
> >>>>> 1990 Deere and Company vehicles and beyond (green)
> >>>>> 2001 Chrysler, Dodge, and Jeep and beyond (orange)
> >>>>> 2002 Ford, Lincoln and Mercury trucks and SUVS and beyond (yellow)
> >>>>> 2003 Ford, Lincoln, and Mercury automobiles and beyond (yellow)
> >>>>>
> >>>>> You are certainly free to use Prestone, but this is what DC warns
you
> >>>>> will
> >>>>> happen:
> >>>>> http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2102424208
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> "Carl" <carlsaiyed@hotmailREMOVE.com> wrote in message
> >>>>> news:-NOdnQz-NLK3Ke7YnZ2dnUVZ_rWdnZ2d@comcast.com...
> >>>>> > Flushed my coolant today. I put the prestone tee in one of the
> >>>>> > heater
> >>>>> > hoses and completely flushed everything untill clear water came
out.
> >>>>> > Here's what's got me baffled... When the guy at Firestone checked
it
> >>>> with
> >>>>> > the tester, it was brown. The coolant that came out of the motor
was
> >>>>> > reasonably green. Suprise #2: I bought the Zerex G-05 in the Gold
> >>>>> > jug..
> >>>>> > the coolant was CLEAR!! Wierd!! Why is it that you have to use the
> >>>>> > G-05
> >>>>> > instead of the regular prestone?
> >>>>> >
> >>>>> > Thanks,
> >>>>> >
> >>>>> > Carl
> >>>>> >
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>>
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