Close Call!
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Re: Close Call!
Hmmm... what a busy thread! It has been educational... (Now that I remember
what I did for 45 minutes... to go 3/4 of a mile,... I had time to
experiment.) I tend to agree with whoever said 4 wheel Part Time up hill in
snow, 4 wheel full time down hill. and definitely getting studs next year.
Last year I drove around after a good storm on 6-8 inches of fresh virgin
snow on some paved roads and it drove better uphill, stopping and turning
sharp curves after I put it in 4 Wheel Part Time. In that case it was NOT
slick and icy.
So I assumed 4 part time would work on this excursion as mentioned. The
locking of both axels in 4 part time isn't what happened though.
Only the front end locked up when applying the brakes, if I applied too much
pressure with the hand brake, only the back slid. The axels never locked
together (never tried 4 full time, because of the luck I had in my earlier
excursion mentioned above)
No matter what gear combination I tried, 4 lo, hi part, full, (automatic
tranny) I gained too much speed and would eventually have had to apply the
brakes, to no avail, so hence my creeping at a walking pace using the hand
brake (could control pressure better)
So my conclusion is, aside from not having the right tires, etc. and should
never have been there in the first place, I did the right thing in creeping
along ata snails pace using the hand brake.
"Frank-The-Tank" <*-*-*-*-*-@*-*-*-*-*.net> wrote in message
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>
> "Stimpy" <rnwrede@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:iQKQf.582$R36.143@fe03.lga...
> : OK, I'm now still shaking from out little trip up a mountain road to
> play
> in
> : the snow. We went up this seemingly harmless road I have been up several
> : times before. I noticed sliding in some places on the way up so I
> decided
> to
> : turn around (good thing I did when I did, 'cause it got steeper from
> that
> : point) I start down the road, not too terribly steep and I start sliding
> as
> : soon as my foot hits the brake ('89 XJ "Pioneer" stock) I had to put it
> in
> a
> : small ditch to stop.
> : I made my son get out (just in case) as I didn't want him going over the
> : ravine too. I had the wheel turned back to the road but couldn't get
> back
> on
> : the road, a stupid little 4-6 inch deep ditch. finally I was back on the
> : road and started sliding again. road was packed so hard it was like ice.
> I
> : couldn't get it into 4LO and finally decided to creep as slow as
> possible
> : using the hand brake and the compression.
> : After a half mile, almost to safety, I had to pull over and let some
> shinny
> : new Chevy PU 4WD pass me, he had no problems sliding and I was
> embarrassed,
> : me in a Jeep, doing the slide for life. All went well no damage except
> my
> : ego and now I am "gun-shy" about mountain roads. went 45 all the way
> home
> on
> : dry pavement (pretty shook-up)
> :
> : OK did I do something wrong? did I do right? I have had pretty good
> : experience in snow (fresh snow, I love it) How do I get it in 4LO? (I
> have
> : the 4PartTime, 4 FullTime, N, 4LO with automatic tranny) I got it in the
> : right slot but the light on the dash said "4 PartTime" (I was in 4
> FullTime
> : before trying to get it in 4LO.
> :
> :
>
> It is really unfortunate that there are not more opinions on this matter ;
> P
>
>
what I did for 45 minutes... to go 3/4 of a mile,... I had time to
experiment.) I tend to agree with whoever said 4 wheel Part Time up hill in
snow, 4 wheel full time down hill. and definitely getting studs next year.
Last year I drove around after a good storm on 6-8 inches of fresh virgin
snow on some paved roads and it drove better uphill, stopping and turning
sharp curves after I put it in 4 Wheel Part Time. In that case it was NOT
slick and icy.
So I assumed 4 part time would work on this excursion as mentioned. The
locking of both axels in 4 part time isn't what happened though.
Only the front end locked up when applying the brakes, if I applied too much
pressure with the hand brake, only the back slid. The axels never locked
together (never tried 4 full time, because of the luck I had in my earlier
excursion mentioned above)
No matter what gear combination I tried, 4 lo, hi part, full, (automatic
tranny) I gained too much speed and would eventually have had to apply the
brakes, to no avail, so hence my creeping at a walking pace using the hand
brake (could control pressure better)
So my conclusion is, aside from not having the right tires, etc. and should
never have been there in the first place, I did the right thing in creeping
along ata snails pace using the hand brake.
"Frank-The-Tank" <*-*-*-*-*-@*-*-*-*-*.net> wrote in message
news:Jy%Rf.178$uX5.92@tornado.texas.rr.com...
>
> "Stimpy" <rnwrede@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:iQKQf.582$R36.143@fe03.lga...
> : OK, I'm now still shaking from out little trip up a mountain road to
> play
> in
> : the snow. We went up this seemingly harmless road I have been up several
> : times before. I noticed sliding in some places on the way up so I
> decided
> to
> : turn around (good thing I did when I did, 'cause it got steeper from
> that
> : point) I start down the road, not too terribly steep and I start sliding
> as
> : soon as my foot hits the brake ('89 XJ "Pioneer" stock) I had to put it
> in
> a
> : small ditch to stop.
> : I made my son get out (just in case) as I didn't want him going over the
> : ravine too. I had the wheel turned back to the road but couldn't get
> back
> on
> : the road, a stupid little 4-6 inch deep ditch. finally I was back on the
> : road and started sliding again. road was packed so hard it was like ice.
> I
> : couldn't get it into 4LO and finally decided to creep as slow as
> possible
> : using the hand brake and the compression.
> : After a half mile, almost to safety, I had to pull over and let some
> shinny
> : new Chevy PU 4WD pass me, he had no problems sliding and I was
> embarrassed,
> : me in a Jeep, doing the slide for life. All went well no damage except
> my
> : ego and now I am "gun-shy" about mountain roads. went 45 all the way
> home
> on
> : dry pavement (pretty shook-up)
> :
> : OK did I do something wrong? did I do right? I have had pretty good
> : experience in snow (fresh snow, I love it) How do I get it in 4LO? (I
> have
> : the 4PartTime, 4 FullTime, N, 4LO with automatic tranny) I got it in the
> : right slot but the light on the dash said "4 PartTime" (I was in 4
> FullTime
> : before trying to get it in 4LO.
> :
> :
>
> It is really unfortunate that there are not more opinions on this matter ;
> P
>
>
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Re: Close Call!
Yes, you did the right thing.
Tom
"Stimpy" <rnwrede@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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snip
> So my conclusion is, aside from not having the right tires, etc. and
should
> never have been there in the first place, I did the right thing in
creeping
> along ata snails pace using the hand brake.
> "Frank-The-Tank" <*-*-*-*-*-@*-*-*-*-*.net> wrote in message
> news:Jy%Rf.178$uX5.92@tornado.texas.rr.com...
> >
> > "Stimpy" <rnwrede@yahoo.com> wrote in message
Tom
"Stimpy" <rnwrede@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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snip
> So my conclusion is, aside from not having the right tires, etc. and
should
> never have been there in the first place, I did the right thing in
creeping
> along ata snails pace using the hand brake.
> "Frank-The-Tank" <*-*-*-*-*-@*-*-*-*-*.net> wrote in message
> news:Jy%Rf.178$uX5.92@tornado.texas.rr.com...
> >
> > "Stimpy" <rnwrede@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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Re: Close Call!
Yes, you did the right thing.
Tom
"Stimpy" <rnwrede@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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snip
> So my conclusion is, aside from not having the right tires, etc. and
should
> never have been there in the first place, I did the right thing in
creeping
> along ata snails pace using the hand brake.
> "Frank-The-Tank" <*-*-*-*-*-@*-*-*-*-*.net> wrote in message
> news:Jy%Rf.178$uX5.92@tornado.texas.rr.com...
> >
> > "Stimpy" <rnwrede@yahoo.com> wrote in message
Tom
"Stimpy" <rnwrede@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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snip
> So my conclusion is, aside from not having the right tires, etc. and
should
> never have been there in the first place, I did the right thing in
creeping
> along ata snails pace using the hand brake.
> "Frank-The-Tank" <*-*-*-*-*-@*-*-*-*-*.net> wrote in message
> news:Jy%Rf.178$uX5.92@tornado.texas.rr.com...
> >
> > "Stimpy" <rnwrede@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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Re: Close Call!
Yes, you did the right thing.
Tom
"Stimpy" <rnwrede@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:isoSf.391$%14.158@fe04.lga...
snip
> So my conclusion is, aside from not having the right tires, etc. and
should
> never have been there in the first place, I did the right thing in
creeping
> along ata snails pace using the hand brake.
> "Frank-The-Tank" <*-*-*-*-*-@*-*-*-*-*.net> wrote in message
> news:Jy%Rf.178$uX5.92@tornado.texas.rr.com...
> >
> > "Stimpy" <rnwrede@yahoo.com> wrote in message
Tom
"Stimpy" <rnwrede@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:isoSf.391$%14.158@fe04.lga...
snip
> So my conclusion is, aside from not having the right tires, etc. and
should
> never have been there in the first place, I did the right thing in
creeping
> along ata snails pace using the hand brake.
> "Frank-The-Tank" <*-*-*-*-*-@*-*-*-*-*.net> wrote in message
> news:Jy%Rf.178$uX5.92@tornado.texas.rr.com...
> >
> > "Stimpy" <rnwrede@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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Re: Close Call!
Yes, you did the right thing.
Tom
"Stimpy" <rnwrede@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:isoSf.391$%14.158@fe04.lga...
snip
> So my conclusion is, aside from not having the right tires, etc. and
should
> never have been there in the first place, I did the right thing in
creeping
> along ata snails pace using the hand brake.
> "Frank-The-Tank" <*-*-*-*-*-@*-*-*-*-*.net> wrote in message
> news:Jy%Rf.178$uX5.92@tornado.texas.rr.com...
> >
> > "Stimpy" <rnwrede@yahoo.com> wrote in message
Tom
"Stimpy" <rnwrede@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:isoSf.391$%14.158@fe04.lga...
snip
> So my conclusion is, aside from not having the right tires, etc. and
should
> never have been there in the first place, I did the right thing in
creeping
> along ata snails pace using the hand brake.
> "Frank-The-Tank" <*-*-*-*-*-@*-*-*-*-*.net> wrote in message
> news:Jy%Rf.178$uX5.92@tornado.texas.rr.com...
> >
> > "Stimpy" <rnwrede@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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Re: Close Call!
Yep, like I said...
"L.W. ("ßill") ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
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> San Diego votes conservative. We really wish we could secede from
> Kalifornia, if it wasn't for their water, it would have been a done
> deal! I'm tired of paying their taxes! Hopefully Barbara Boxer, and
> Dianne Feinstein you've seen make fools of themselves will be replaced
> in November.
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Matt Macchiarolo wrote:
>>
>> Plenty in San Diego, too...
"L.W. ("ßill") ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:441891CA.5428E3CB@***.net...
> San Diego votes conservative. We really wish we could secede from
> Kalifornia, if it wasn't for their water, it would have been a done
> deal! I'm tired of paying their taxes! Hopefully Barbara Boxer, and
> Dianne Feinstein you've seen make fools of themselves will be replaced
> in November.
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Matt Macchiarolo wrote:
>>
>> Plenty in San Diego, too...
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Re: Close Call!
Yep, like I said...
"L.W. ("ßill") ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:441891CA.5428E3CB@***.net...
> San Diego votes conservative. We really wish we could secede from
> Kalifornia, if it wasn't for their water, it would have been a done
> deal! I'm tired of paying their taxes! Hopefully Barbara Boxer, and
> Dianne Feinstein you've seen make fools of themselves will be replaced
> in November.
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Matt Macchiarolo wrote:
>>
>> Plenty in San Diego, too...
"L.W. ("ßill") ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:441891CA.5428E3CB@***.net...
> San Diego votes conservative. We really wish we could secede from
> Kalifornia, if it wasn't for their water, it would have been a done
> deal! I'm tired of paying their taxes! Hopefully Barbara Boxer, and
> Dianne Feinstein you've seen make fools of themselves will be replaced
> in November.
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Matt Macchiarolo wrote:
>>
>> Plenty in San Diego, too...
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Re: Close Call!
Yep, like I said...
"L.W. ("ßill") ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:441891CA.5428E3CB@***.net...
> San Diego votes conservative. We really wish we could secede from
> Kalifornia, if it wasn't for their water, it would have been a done
> deal! I'm tired of paying their taxes! Hopefully Barbara Boxer, and
> Dianne Feinstein you've seen make fools of themselves will be replaced
> in November.
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Matt Macchiarolo wrote:
>>
>> Plenty in San Diego, too...
"L.W. ("ßill") ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:441891CA.5428E3CB@***.net...
> San Diego votes conservative. We really wish we could secede from
> Kalifornia, if it wasn't for their water, it would have been a done
> deal! I'm tired of paying their taxes! Hopefully Barbara Boxer, and
> Dianne Feinstein you've seen make fools of themselves will be replaced
> in November.
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Matt Macchiarolo wrote:
>>
>> Plenty in San Diego, too...
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Re: Close Call!
Yep, like I said...
"L.W. ("ßill") ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:441891CA.5428E3CB@***.net...
> San Diego votes conservative. We really wish we could secede from
> Kalifornia, if it wasn't for their water, it would have been a done
> deal! I'm tired of paying their taxes! Hopefully Barbara Boxer, and
> Dianne Feinstein you've seen make fools of themselves will be replaced
> in November.
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Matt Macchiarolo wrote:
>>
>> Plenty in San Diego, too...
"L.W. ("ßill") ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:441891CA.5428E3CB@***.net...
> San Diego votes conservative. We really wish we could secede from
> Kalifornia, if it wasn't for their water, it would have been a done
> deal! I'm tired of paying their taxes! Hopefully Barbara Boxer, and
> Dianne Feinstein you've seen make fools of themselves will be replaced
> in November.
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Matt Macchiarolo wrote:
>>
>> Plenty in San Diego, too...
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Re: Close Call!
Succession sounds like a good idea. I do not think Washington would object
to the creation of another conservative state.
"Matt Macchiarolo" <matt@nospamplease.com> wrote in message
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> Yep, like I said...
>
> "L.W. ("ßill") ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
> news:441891CA.5428E3CB@***.net...
>> San Diego votes conservative. We really wish we could secede from
>> Kalifornia, if it wasn't for their water, it would have been a done
>> deal! I'm tired of paying their taxes! Hopefully Barbara Boxer, and
>> Dianne Feinstein you've seen make fools of themselves will be replaced
>> in November.
>> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
>> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>>
>> Matt Macchiarolo wrote:
>>>
>>> Plenty in San Diego, too...
>
>
to the creation of another conservative state.
"Matt Macchiarolo" <matt@nospamplease.com> wrote in message
news:1eWdnSMbrYPiuIfZRVn-tQ@comcast.com...
> Yep, like I said...
>
> "L.W. ("ßill") ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
> news:441891CA.5428E3CB@***.net...
>> San Diego votes conservative. We really wish we could secede from
>> Kalifornia, if it wasn't for their water, it would have been a done
>> deal! I'm tired of paying their taxes! Hopefully Barbara Boxer, and
>> Dianne Feinstein you've seen make fools of themselves will be replaced
>> in November.
>> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
>> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>>
>> Matt Macchiarolo wrote:
>>>
>>> Plenty in San Diego, too...
>
>
