HomeBrewer

> After laying under my Jeep for awhile, I now see your point. Now the oil
> filter, I have always used a PH25 which is what the Fram catalog calls
> for.

Any good parts store clerk should tell you that there is a short filter and
a long filter - always get the short one.

> I also notice an adjustment slot for the mount on the frame piece,
> passenger
> side. How is this adjustment set? It could make room for the filter, not
> sure.

Those slots are there to make it easier to set the motor in place. When
dropping the motor you only have to align the bolts to the slots and not get
the bolts through small holes. There not adjustments, the motor will always
sit at the bottom of the slots.


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HomeBrewer

> After laying under my Jeep for awhile, I now see your point. Now the oil
> filter, I have always used a PH25 which is what the Fram catalog calls
> for.

Any good parts store clerk should tell you that there is a short filter and
a long filter - always get the short one.

> I also notice an adjustment slot for the mount on the frame piece,
> passenger
> side. How is this adjustment set? It could make room for the filter, not
> sure.

Those slots are there to make it easier to set the motor in place. When
dropping the motor you only have to align the bolts to the slots and not get
the bolts through small holes. There not adjustments, the motor will always
sit at the bottom of the slots.


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HomeBrewer

> After laying under my Jeep for awhile, I now see your point. Now the oil
> filter, I have always used a PH25 which is what the Fram catalog calls
> for.

Any good parts store clerk should tell you that there is a short filter and
a long filter - always get the short one.

> I also notice an adjustment slot for the mount on the frame piece,
> passenger
> side. How is this adjustment set? It could make room for the filter, not
> sure.

Those slots are there to make it easier to set the motor in place. When
dropping the motor you only have to align the bolts to the slots and not get
the bolts through small holes. There not adjustments, the motor will always
sit at the bottom of the slots.


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Mike Romain

I would have to go look at a V8 to know for sure so let's figure you
have it right for metal part positioning. (don't think so, but hey if
it fits who am I to argue)

The rubber mount has two metal plates. One plate has a bend and square
hole in it. The other side metal plate has a bar 'pin' on it. There is
rubber glued between these.

When the engine twists under torque, the rubber mount moves until that
square hole comes up tight on the bar pin. This stops it from moving
farther and tearing apart.

On the 258's the hole is on the engine side of the mount, so when the
passenger mount twists down, the loop on the engine side grabs the pin
on the frame side stopping any more movement. This setup needs the
mount to have the loop and pin at the top on the passenger side.

On your setup, you have the mounts reversed from the 258 setup. You
have the loop on the frame side and the bar pin on the engine side.

This means you need the passenger side loop and pin to be at the bottom
to catch it.

As the engine twists down, the pin on the engine side goes down so the
loop on the frame side needs to be at the bottom to catch it. Reverse
that for the drivers side.

Hope that makes sense... ;-)

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

HomeBrewer wrote:
>
> > On all the ones I have seen and pulled, the square 'loop' part of the
> > mount is the part with the two bolts like yours and the pin side only
> > has one bolt, But, the one bolt side is on the frame mount, not the
> > engine mount.
>
> The v8 pads have two bolts on both sides...the only difference being the
> bolts are in line on the frame side and diagional on the block side.
>
> I'm getting more confused by the minute.
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Mike Romain

I would have to go look at a V8 to know for sure so let's figure you
have it right for metal part positioning. (don't think so, but hey if
it fits who am I to argue)

The rubber mount has two metal plates. One plate has a bend and square
hole in it. The other side metal plate has a bar 'pin' on it. There is
rubber glued between these.

When the engine twists under torque, the rubber mount moves until that
square hole comes up tight on the bar pin. This stops it from moving
farther and tearing apart.

On the 258's the hole is on the engine side of the mount, so when the
passenger mount twists down, the loop on the engine side grabs the pin
on the frame side stopping any more movement. This setup needs the
mount to have the loop and pin at the top on the passenger side.

On your setup, you have the mounts reversed from the 258 setup. You
have the loop on the frame side and the bar pin on the engine side.

This means you need the passenger side loop and pin to be at the bottom
to catch it.

As the engine twists down, the pin on the engine side goes down so the
loop on the frame side needs to be at the bottom to catch it. Reverse
that for the drivers side.

Hope that makes sense... ;-)

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

HomeBrewer wrote:
>
> > On all the ones I have seen and pulled, the square 'loop' part of the
> > mount is the part with the two bolts like yours and the pin side only
> > has one bolt, But, the one bolt side is on the frame mount, not the
> > engine mount.
>
> The v8 pads have two bolts on both sides...the only difference being the
> bolts are in line on the frame side and diagional on the block side.
>
> I'm getting more confused by the minute.
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> _____________________
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Mike Romain

I would have to go look at a V8 to know for sure so let's figure you
have it right for metal part positioning. (don't think so, but hey if
it fits who am I to argue)

The rubber mount has two metal plates. One plate has a bend and square
hole in it. The other side metal plate has a bar 'pin' on it. There is
rubber glued between these.

When the engine twists under torque, the rubber mount moves until that
square hole comes up tight on the bar pin. This stops it from moving
farther and tearing apart.

On the 258's the hole is on the engine side of the mount, so when the
passenger mount twists down, the loop on the engine side grabs the pin
on the frame side stopping any more movement. This setup needs the
mount to have the loop and pin at the top on the passenger side.

On your setup, you have the mounts reversed from the 258 setup. You
have the loop on the frame side and the bar pin on the engine side.

This means you need the passenger side loop and pin to be at the bottom
to catch it.

As the engine twists down, the pin on the engine side goes down so the
loop on the frame side needs to be at the bottom to catch it. Reverse
that for the drivers side.

Hope that makes sense... ;-)

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

HomeBrewer wrote:
>
> > On all the ones I have seen and pulled, the square 'loop' part of the
> > mount is the part with the two bolts like yours and the pin side only
> > has one bolt, But, the one bolt side is on the frame mount, not the
> > engine mount.
>
> The v8 pads have two bolts on both sides...the only difference being the
> bolts are in line on the frame side and diagional on the block side.
>
> I'm getting more confused by the minute.
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