Mike Romain

Well, that is really interesting.....

I could be way off base here, but are you 'sure' those aren't the
'frame' part of the mounts you have bolted to the engine?

If your mounts weren't backwards it would be right.

On all the ones I have seen and pulled, the square 'loop' part of the
mount is the part with the two bolts like yours and the pin side only
has one bolt, But, the one bolt side is on the frame mount, not the
engine mount.

If indeed your metal mounts are right for that setup, then the rubber
mounts need to be flipped upside down. You need the square hole loop to
grab the bar pin when the engine twists.

Naw, you have the same mounts as my 258 and that big curved piece is
supposed to be on the frame not the engine, I just went and looked.
Even the haynes shows the big clunker parts on the frame side and the
smaller ones on the engine.

Mike

HomeBrewer wrote:
>
> Are you saying to install them like this:
>
> Passenger side:
> http://members.***.net/85cj7/ng/psidemount.jpg
> Drivers side:
> http://members.***.net/85cj7/ng/dsidemount.jpg
>
> My haynes manual shows a similar set up to this, but it has an additional
> bracket that the "hook" goes into between the frame mount and the rubber
> pad.
> --
> _____________________
> HomeBrewer
> 85CJ7 (in Progress)
> http://85cj7.blogspot.com/
> 99XJ Sport
> Remove the xxx to reply!

Mike Romain

Well, that is really interesting.....

I could be way off base here, but are you 'sure' those aren't the
'frame' part of the mounts you have bolted to the engine?

If your mounts weren't backwards it would be right.

On all the ones I have seen and pulled, the square 'loop' part of the
mount is the part with the two bolts like yours and the pin side only
has one bolt, But, the one bolt side is on the frame mount, not the
engine mount.

If indeed your metal mounts are right for that setup, then the rubber
mounts need to be flipped upside down. You need the square hole loop to
grab the bar pin when the engine twists.

Naw, you have the same mounts as my 258 and that big curved piece is
supposed to be on the frame not the engine, I just went and looked.
Even the haynes shows the big clunker parts on the frame side and the
smaller ones on the engine.

Mike

HomeBrewer wrote:
>
> Are you saying to install them like this:
>
> Passenger side:
> http://members.***.net/85cj7/ng/psidemount.jpg
> Drivers side:
> http://members.***.net/85cj7/ng/dsidemount.jpg
>
> My haynes manual shows a similar set up to this, but it has an additional
> bracket that the "hook" goes into between the frame mount and the rubber
> pad.
> --
> _____________________
> HomeBrewer
> 85CJ7 (in Progress)
> http://85cj7.blogspot.com/
> 99XJ Sport
> Remove the xxx to reply!

L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III

Quit your braggin'! ;-) Thanks, those are the only pictures I've
found that show where to look for AMC engine size. Real Jeep engines use
a left and right mounts.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

HomeBrewer wrote:
>
> Are you saying to install them like this:
>
> Passenger side:
> http://members.***.net/85cj7/ng/psidemount.jpg
> Drivers side:
> http://members.***.net/85cj7/ng/dsidemount.jpg
>
> My haynes manual shows a similar set up to this, but it has an additional
> bracket that the "hook" goes into between the frame mount and the rubber
> pad.
> --
> _____________________
> HomeBrewer
> 85CJ7 (in Progress)
> http://85cj7.blogspot.com/
> 99XJ Sport
> Remove the xxx to reply!

L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III

Quit your braggin'! ;-) Thanks, those are the only pictures I've
found that show where to look for AMC engine size. Real Jeep engines use
a left and right mounts.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

HomeBrewer wrote:
>
> Are you saying to install them like this:
>
> Passenger side:
> http://members.***.net/85cj7/ng/psidemount.jpg
> Drivers side:
> http://members.***.net/85cj7/ng/dsidemount.jpg
>
> My haynes manual shows a similar set up to this, but it has an additional
> bracket that the "hook" goes into between the frame mount and the rubber
> pad.
> --
> _____________________
> HomeBrewer
> 85CJ7 (in Progress)
> http://85cj7.blogspot.com/
> 99XJ Sport
> Remove the xxx to reply!

L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III

Quit your braggin'! ;-) Thanks, those are the only pictures I've
found that show where to look for AMC engine size. Real Jeep engines use
a left and right mounts.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

HomeBrewer wrote:
>
> Are you saying to install them like this:
>
> Passenger side:
> http://members.***.net/85cj7/ng/psidemount.jpg
> Drivers side:
> http://members.***.net/85cj7/ng/dsidemount.jpg
>
> My haynes manual shows a similar set up to this, but it has an additional
> bracket that the "hook" goes into between the frame mount and the rubber
> pad.
> --
> _____________________
> HomeBrewer
> 85CJ7 (in Progress)
> http://85cj7.blogspot.com/
> 99XJ Sport
> Remove the xxx to reply!

JimG

Mike,

After laying under my Jeep for awhile, I now see your point. Now the oil
filter, I have always used a PH25 which is what the Fram catalog calls for.

I also notice an adjustment slot for the mount on the frame piece, passenger
side. How is this adjustment set? It could make room for the filter, not
sure.

Thanks for beating it into my thick head! I hope you didn't hurt your
hammer. ;-)

JimG

"Mike Romain" wrote in message ...
> Think again.....
>
> I know it's confusing as ----, I had to double check in the day totally
> sober to make sure, you had me wondering even. LOL!
>
> The engine rolls toward the passenger side. This means that side moves
> down.
>
> The hook's loop is at the top on the engine side of the rubber mount to
> catch it from moving down too far. The hook 'pin' that catches it is on
> the frame side pointing up.
>
> Same deal on drivers side. The engine will lift up on that side so the
> hook loop is on the bottom engine side to stop it.
>
> As mentioned I tried it with both down and tore the passenger side one
> right away so the engine lifted up in reverse.
>
> I just looked in daytime and 'both' of my 'loops' are bent pretty bad
> and I am already starting to crack the rubber on that passenger one.
>
> My Haynes manual also shows the mounts this way for the 6, the 8 and the
> 4 although the manual is wrong on the drawing. The drawing shows the
> hook loops on the frame side when in fact they fit on the engine side.
> It shows them point the right direction, just a mirror of what they are
> really.
>
> Now if 'your' mounts have the hook loops on the frame side then they go
> opposite what I have been saying. They still must alternate one up one
> down though.
>
> Mike
>

JimG

Mike,

After laying under my Jeep for awhile, I now see your point. Now the oil
filter, I have always used a PH25 which is what the Fram catalog calls for.

I also notice an adjustment slot for the mount on the frame piece, passenger
side. How is this adjustment set? It could make room for the filter, not
sure.

Thanks for beating it into my thick head! I hope you didn't hurt your
hammer. ;-)

JimG

"Mike Romain" wrote in message ...
> Think again.....
>
> I know it's confusing as ----, I had to double check in the day totally
> sober to make sure, you had me wondering even. LOL!
>
> The engine rolls toward the passenger side. This means that side moves
> down.
>
> The hook's loop is at the top on the engine side of the rubber mount to
> catch it from moving down too far. The hook 'pin' that catches it is on
> the frame side pointing up.
>
> Same deal on drivers side. The engine will lift up on that side so the
> hook loop is on the bottom engine side to stop it.
>
> As mentioned I tried it with both down and tore the passenger side one
> right away so the engine lifted up in reverse.
>
> I just looked in daytime and 'both' of my 'loops' are bent pretty bad
> and I am already starting to crack the rubber on that passenger one.
>
> My Haynes manual also shows the mounts this way for the 6, the 8 and the
> 4 although the manual is wrong on the drawing. The drawing shows the
> hook loops on the frame side when in fact they fit on the engine side.
> It shows them point the right direction, just a mirror of what they are
> really.
>
> Now if 'your' mounts have the hook loops on the frame side then they go
> opposite what I have been saying. They still must alternate one up one
> down though.
>
> Mike
>

JimG

Mike,

After laying under my Jeep for awhile, I now see your point. Now the oil
filter, I have always used a PH25 which is what the Fram catalog calls for.

I also notice an adjustment slot for the mount on the frame piece, passenger
side. How is this adjustment set? It could make room for the filter, not
sure.

Thanks for beating it into my thick head! I hope you didn't hurt your
hammer. ;-)

JimG

"Mike Romain" wrote in message ...
> Think again.....
>
> I know it's confusing as ----, I had to double check in the day totally
> sober to make sure, you had me wondering even. LOL!
>
> The engine rolls toward the passenger side. This means that side moves
> down.
>
> The hook's loop is at the top on the engine side of the rubber mount to
> catch it from moving down too far. The hook 'pin' that catches it is on
> the frame side pointing up.
>
> Same deal on drivers side. The engine will lift up on that side so the
> hook loop is on the bottom engine side to stop it.
>
> As mentioned I tried it with both down and tore the passenger side one
> right away so the engine lifted up in reverse.
>
> I just looked in daytime and 'both' of my 'loops' are bent pretty bad
> and I am already starting to crack the rubber on that passenger one.
>
> My Haynes manual also shows the mounts this way for the 6, the 8 and the
> 4 although the manual is wrong on the drawing. The drawing shows the
> hook loops on the frame side when in fact they fit on the engine side.
> It shows them point the right direction, just a mirror of what they are
> really.
>
> Now if 'your' mounts have the hook loops on the frame side then they go
> opposite what I have been saying. They still must alternate one up one
> down though.
>
> Mike
>

Mike Romain

LOL! It was fun... ;-)

The thread isn't over yet.....

I know that two filters can fit on. Mine has a short small diameter
filter. Maybe look up a different year.

The best I can figure for that slot was to make up for any differences
in brands of rubber mounts. If one was thicker the hole would move a
bit. Just a guess. The filter clearance is set on the engine side.

Mike

JimG wrote:
>
> Mike,
>
> After laying under my Jeep for awhile, I now see your point. Now the oil
> filter, I have always used a PH25 which is what the Fram catalog calls for.
>
> I also notice an adjustment slot for the mount on the frame piece, passenger
> side. How is this adjustment set? It could make room for the filter, not
> sure.
>
> Thanks for beating it into my thick head! I hope you didn't hurt your
> hammer. ;-)
>
> JimG
>
> "Mike Romain" wrote in message ...
> > Think again.....
> >
> > I know it's confusing as ----, I had to double check in the day totally
> > sober to make sure, you had me wondering even. LOL!
> >
> > The engine rolls toward the passenger side. This means that side moves
> > down.
> >
> > The hook's loop is at the top on the engine side of the rubber mount to
> > catch it from moving down too far. The hook 'pin' that catches it is on
> > the frame side pointing up.
> >
> > Same deal on drivers side. The engine will lift up on that side so the
> > hook loop is on the bottom engine side to stop it.
> >
> > As mentioned I tried it with both down and tore the passenger side one
> > right away so the engine lifted up in reverse.
> >
> > I just looked in daytime and 'both' of my 'loops' are bent pretty bad
> > and I am already starting to crack the rubber on that passenger one.
> >
> > My Haynes manual also shows the mounts this way for the 6, the 8 and the
> > 4 although the manual is wrong on the drawing. The drawing shows the
> > hook loops on the frame side when in fact they fit on the engine side.
> > It shows them point the right direction, just a mirror of what they are
> > really.
> >
> > Now if 'your' mounts have the hook loops on the frame side then they go
> > opposite what I have been saying. They still must alternate one up one
> > down though.
> >
> > Mike
> >

Mike Romain

LOL! It was fun... ;-)

The thread isn't over yet.....

I know that two filters can fit on. Mine has a short small diameter
filter. Maybe look up a different year.

The best I can figure for that slot was to make up for any differences
in brands of rubber mounts. If one was thicker the hole would move a
bit. Just a guess. The filter clearance is set on the engine side.

Mike

JimG wrote:
>
> Mike,
>
> After laying under my Jeep for awhile, I now see your point. Now the oil
> filter, I have always used a PH25 which is what the Fram catalog calls for.
>
> I also notice an adjustment slot for the mount on the frame piece, passenger
> side. How is this adjustment set? It could make room for the filter, not
> sure.
>
> Thanks for beating it into my thick head! I hope you didn't hurt your
> hammer. ;-)
>
> JimG
>
> "Mike Romain" wrote in message ...
> > Think again.....
> >
> > I know it's confusing as ----, I had to double check in the day totally
> > sober to make sure, you had me wondering even. LOL!
> >
> > The engine rolls toward the passenger side. This means that side moves
> > down.
> >
> > The hook's loop is at the top on the engine side of the rubber mount to
> > catch it from moving down too far. The hook 'pin' that catches it is on
> > the frame side pointing up.
> >
> > Same deal on drivers side. The engine will lift up on that side so the
> > hook loop is on the bottom engine side to stop it.
> >
> > As mentioned I tried it with both down and tore the passenger side one
> > right away so the engine lifted up in reverse.
> >
> > I just looked in daytime and 'both' of my 'loops' are bent pretty bad
> > and I am already starting to crack the rubber on that passenger one.
> >
> > My Haynes manual also shows the mounts this way for the 6, the 8 and the
> > 4 although the manual is wrong on the drawing. The drawing shows the
> > hook loops on the frame side when in fact they fit on the engine side.
> > It shows them point the right direction, just a mirror of what they are
> > really.
> >
> > Now if 'your' mounts have the hook loops on the frame side then they go
> > opposite what I have been saying. They still must alternate one up one
> > down though.
> >
> > Mike
> >