Chrysler - did Cerberus blow it?
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Re: Chrysler - did Cerberus blow it?
15ppm "Ultra-Low Sulfur" diesel was mandated in January 2007. I assume it
was mandated all over the country, that's what we have in Michigan.
"Dori A Schmetterling" <info@nospam.co.uk> wrote in message
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> Is the low-sulfur diesel available all over the US yet?
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> DAS
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>> No diesel smell, no clattering, very smooth. When will these diesels be
>> available in the US?
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was mandated all over the country, that's what we have in Michigan.
"Dori A Schmetterling" <info@nospam.co.uk> wrote in message
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> Is the low-sulfur diesel available all over the US yet?
>
> DAS
>
> For direct replies replace nospam with schmetterling
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> "Matt Macchiarolo" <matt@nospamplease.com> wrote in message
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>> No diesel smell, no clattering, very smooth. When will these diesels be
>> available in the US?
>>
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Re: Chrysler - did Cerberus blow it?
"Dori A Schmetterling" <info@nospam.co.uk> wrote in message
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> On the whole Mercs have been and are classy and timeless.
>
> That's why a 20-yr-old Merc can still pass muster today.
>
> DAS
Timeless is a nice way to put it. They certainly aren't out of style. 20
year old Mercs don't have any character lines on them anywhere, or any kind
of styling features. They weren't really styled at all, just basically a
block of soap.
I admit new ones are quite a bit more styled. I was just saying they didn't
actually use styling for a long time, say 1960 to 2000. I'm not saying I
didn't like the styling - I'm saying there wasn't any. If you don't put
lines on something, it's just flat.
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Re: Chrysler - did Cerberus blow it?
"Dori A Schmetterling" <info@nospam.co.uk> wrote in message
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> On the whole Mercs have been and are classy and timeless.
>
> That's why a 20-yr-old Merc can still pass muster today.
>
> DAS
Timeless is a nice way to put it. They certainly aren't out of style. 20
year old Mercs don't have any character lines on them anywhere, or any kind
of styling features. They weren't really styled at all, just basically a
block of soap.
I admit new ones are quite a bit more styled. I was just saying they didn't
actually use styling for a long time, say 1960 to 2000. I'm not saying I
didn't like the styling - I'm saying there wasn't any. If you don't put
lines on something, it's just flat.
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Re: Chrysler - did Cerberus blow it?
"Dori A Schmetterling" <info@nospam.co.uk> wrote in message
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> On the whole Mercs have been and are classy and timeless.
>
> That's why a 20-yr-old Merc can still pass muster today.
>
> DAS
Timeless is a nice way to put it. They certainly aren't out of style. 20
year old Mercs don't have any character lines on them anywhere, or any kind
of styling features. They weren't really styled at all, just basically a
block of soap.
I admit new ones are quite a bit more styled. I was just saying they didn't
actually use styling for a long time, say 1960 to 2000. I'm not saying I
didn't like the styling - I'm saying there wasn't any. If you don't put
lines on something, it's just flat.
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Re: Chrysler - did Cerberus blow it?
"Dori A Schmetterling" <info@nospam.co.uk> wrote in message
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> On the whole Mercs have been and are classy and timeless.
>
> That's why a 20-yr-old Merc can still pass muster today.
>
> DAS
Timeless is a nice way to put it. They certainly aren't out of style. 20
year old Mercs don't have any character lines on them anywhere, or any kind
of styling features. They weren't really styled at all, just basically a
block of soap.
I admit new ones are quite a bit more styled. I was just saying they didn't
actually use styling for a long time, say 1960 to 2000. I'm not saying I
didn't like the styling - I'm saying there wasn't any. If you don't put
lines on something, it's just flat.
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Re: Chrysler - did Cerberus blow it?
"Matt Macchiarolo" <matt@nospamplease.com> wrote in message
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> 15ppm "Ultra-Low Sulfur" diesel was mandated in January 2007. I assume it
> was mandated all over the country, that's what we have in Michigan.
>
We have it in OR also. What the ironic thing is, is that this mandate is
one of the reasons fuel prices went up - it's more costly to refine heavy
crude to get rid of the sulfur - yet the diesel prices here are lower than
gasoline.
Ted
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"Matt Macchiarolo" <matt@nospamplease.com> wrote in message
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> 15ppm "Ultra-Low Sulfur" diesel was mandated in January 2007. I assume it
> was mandated all over the country, that's what we have in Michigan.
>
We have it in OR also. What the ironic thing is, is that this mandate is
one of the reasons fuel prices went up - it's more costly to refine heavy
crude to get rid of the sulfur - yet the diesel prices here are lower than
gasoline.
Ted
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Re: Chrysler - did Cerberus blow it?
"Matt Macchiarolo" <matt@nospamplease.com> wrote in message
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> 15ppm "Ultra-Low Sulfur" diesel was mandated in January 2007. I assume it
> was mandated all over the country, that's what we have in Michigan.
>
We have it in OR also. What the ironic thing is, is that this mandate is
one of the reasons fuel prices went up - it's more costly to refine heavy
crude to get rid of the sulfur - yet the diesel prices here are lower than
gasoline.
Ted
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Re: Chrysler - did Cerberus blow it?
"Matt Macchiarolo" <matt@nospamplease.com> wrote in message
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> 15ppm "Ultra-Low Sulfur" diesel was mandated in January 2007. I assume it
> was mandated all over the country, that's what we have in Michigan.
>
We have it in OR also. What the ironic thing is, is that this mandate is
one of the reasons fuel prices went up - it's more costly to refine heavy
crude to get rid of the sulfur - yet the diesel prices here are lower than
gasoline.
Ted
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Re: Chrysler - did Cerberus blow it?
On Mon, 28 May 2007 20:15:32 +0100, "Dori A Schmetterling"
<info@nospam.co.uk> wrote:
> On the whole Mercs have been and are classy and timeless.
>
> That's why a 20-yr-old Merc can still pass muster today.
That's because they don't change their style that often... I've never
understood why someone would want to buy a car that will automatically
look like an "old" car once the new model year comes along...
There are certain cars over the years whose style is such that they
will be classics... Usually these end up being sports cars, but
sometimes other cars end up in this category... If a car has style, it
will still have style 20 years from now if you can keep it in like new
condition... I seriously doubt that any Toyota/Lexus,
Nissan/Infinitly, Honda/Acura, or Kia sedans will ever be classified
as such... Of course, the CJs get classified this way...
<info@nospam.co.uk> wrote:
> On the whole Mercs have been and are classy and timeless.
>
> That's why a 20-yr-old Merc can still pass muster today.
That's because they don't change their style that often... I've never
understood why someone would want to buy a car that will automatically
look like an "old" car once the new model year comes along...
There are certain cars over the years whose style is such that they
will be classics... Usually these end up being sports cars, but
sometimes other cars end up in this category... If a car has style, it
will still have style 20 years from now if you can keep it in like new
condition... I seriously doubt that any Toyota/Lexus,
Nissan/Infinitly, Honda/Acura, or Kia sedans will ever be classified
as such... Of course, the CJs get classified this way...