charging the ac
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Re: charging the ac
"Jeff DeWitt" <JeffDeWitt@nc.rr.com> wrote in message
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>I think they are all still doing it under license to DuPont. It will be
>interesting to see what happens when the patent for 134A runs out.
134a is already scheduled to be phased out, and its the same year that the
dupont patent expires. i think its '08, would have to confirm.f
> I didn't used to be so cynical... but then I started paying attention.
the EPA is a self-serving ----- that will not stop, as they must continually
find fault in order to justify their existance. now that automotive
emmissions have gone about as far as they realistically can, the EPA is
going after small engine emmissions and all in the name of "saving the
environment" which sounds good in theory but its gonna hit hard in the
wallet.
as of '06, 13 seer is mandatory. just wait until the next time you have an
a/c unit replaced......and the customer looks at the service tech as if its
his fault.
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http://7SlotGrille.com
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http://BighornRefrigeration.com
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news:ps1Yf.77601$%84.62271@tornado.southeast.rr.co m...
>I think they are all still doing it under license to DuPont. It will be
>interesting to see what happens when the patent for 134A runs out.
134a is already scheduled to be phased out, and its the same year that the
dupont patent expires. i think its '08, would have to confirm.f
> I didn't used to be so cynical... but then I started paying attention.
the EPA is a self-serving ----- that will not stop, as they must continually
find fault in order to justify their existance. now that automotive
emmissions have gone about as far as they realistically can, the EPA is
going after small engine emmissions and all in the name of "saving the
environment" which sounds good in theory but its gonna hit hard in the
wallet.
as of '06, 13 seer is mandatory. just wait until the next time you have an
a/c unit replaced......and the customer looks at the service tech as if its
his fault.
--
Nathan W. Collier
http://UtilityOffRoad.com
http://7SlotGrille.com
http://InlineDiesel.com
http://BighornRefrigeration.com
http://ConcealedCarryForum.com
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Re: charging the ac
So we are going to have to install a $300 catalytic converter on our $99
mower?
My parents finally got central A/C last year. The guy explains all the
pros and cons of the different models and efficiencies. What surprised me
was when he said the higher SEER models had poor reliability and actually
discouraged that choice.
"Nathan W. Collier" <Nathan@NoSpam.com> wrote in message
news:gM3Yf.46$xm4.4059@news.uswest.net...
> "Jeff DeWitt" <JeffDeWitt@nc.rr.com> wrote in message
> news:ps1Yf.77601$%84.62271@tornado.southeast.rr.co m...
>>I think they are all still doing it under license to DuPont. It will be
>>interesting to see what happens when the patent for 134A runs out.
>
> 134a is already scheduled to be phased out, and its the same year that the
> dupont patent expires. i think its '08, would have to confirm.f
>
>
>> I didn't used to be so cynical... but then I started paying attention.
>
> the EPA is a self-serving ----- that will not stop, as they must
> continually find fault in order to justify their existance. now that
> automotive emmissions have gone about as far as they realistically can,
> the EPA is going after small engine emmissions and all in the name of
> "saving the environment" which sounds good in theory but its gonna hit
> hard in the wallet.
>
> as of '06, 13 seer is mandatory. just wait until the next time you have
> an a/c unit replaced......and the customer looks at the service tech as if
> its his fault.
>
> --
> Nathan W. Collier
> http://UtilityOffRoad.com
> http://7SlotGrille.com
> http://InlineDiesel.com
> http://BighornRefrigeration.com
> http://ConcealedCarryForum.com
>
mower?
My parents finally got central A/C last year. The guy explains all the
pros and cons of the different models and efficiencies. What surprised me
was when he said the higher SEER models had poor reliability and actually
discouraged that choice.
"Nathan W. Collier" <Nathan@NoSpam.com> wrote in message
news:gM3Yf.46$xm4.4059@news.uswest.net...
> "Jeff DeWitt" <JeffDeWitt@nc.rr.com> wrote in message
> news:ps1Yf.77601$%84.62271@tornado.southeast.rr.co m...
>>I think they are all still doing it under license to DuPont. It will be
>>interesting to see what happens when the patent for 134A runs out.
>
> 134a is already scheduled to be phased out, and its the same year that the
> dupont patent expires. i think its '08, would have to confirm.f
>
>
>> I didn't used to be so cynical... but then I started paying attention.
>
> the EPA is a self-serving ----- that will not stop, as they must
> continually find fault in order to justify their existance. now that
> automotive emmissions have gone about as far as they realistically can,
> the EPA is going after small engine emmissions and all in the name of
> "saving the environment" which sounds good in theory but its gonna hit
> hard in the wallet.
>
> as of '06, 13 seer is mandatory. just wait until the next time you have
> an a/c unit replaced......and the customer looks at the service tech as if
> its his fault.
>
> --
> Nathan W. Collier
> http://UtilityOffRoad.com
> http://7SlotGrille.com
> http://InlineDiesel.com
> http://BighornRefrigeration.com
> http://ConcealedCarryForum.com
>
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Re: charging the ac
So we are going to have to install a $300 catalytic converter on our $99
mower?
My parents finally got central A/C last year. The guy explains all the
pros and cons of the different models and efficiencies. What surprised me
was when he said the higher SEER models had poor reliability and actually
discouraged that choice.
"Nathan W. Collier" <Nathan@NoSpam.com> wrote in message
news:gM3Yf.46$xm4.4059@news.uswest.net...
> "Jeff DeWitt" <JeffDeWitt@nc.rr.com> wrote in message
> news:ps1Yf.77601$%84.62271@tornado.southeast.rr.co m...
>>I think they are all still doing it under license to DuPont. It will be
>>interesting to see what happens when the patent for 134A runs out.
>
> 134a is already scheduled to be phased out, and its the same year that the
> dupont patent expires. i think its '08, would have to confirm.f
>
>
>> I didn't used to be so cynical... but then I started paying attention.
>
> the EPA is a self-serving ----- that will not stop, as they must
> continually find fault in order to justify their existance. now that
> automotive emmissions have gone about as far as they realistically can,
> the EPA is going after small engine emmissions and all in the name of
> "saving the environment" which sounds good in theory but its gonna hit
> hard in the wallet.
>
> as of '06, 13 seer is mandatory. just wait until the next time you have
> an a/c unit replaced......and the customer looks at the service tech as if
> its his fault.
>
> --
> Nathan W. Collier
> http://UtilityOffRoad.com
> http://7SlotGrille.com
> http://InlineDiesel.com
> http://BighornRefrigeration.com
> http://ConcealedCarryForum.com
>
mower?
My parents finally got central A/C last year. The guy explains all the
pros and cons of the different models and efficiencies. What surprised me
was when he said the higher SEER models had poor reliability and actually
discouraged that choice.
"Nathan W. Collier" <Nathan@NoSpam.com> wrote in message
news:gM3Yf.46$xm4.4059@news.uswest.net...
> "Jeff DeWitt" <JeffDeWitt@nc.rr.com> wrote in message
> news:ps1Yf.77601$%84.62271@tornado.southeast.rr.co m...
>>I think they are all still doing it under license to DuPont. It will be
>>interesting to see what happens when the patent for 134A runs out.
>
> 134a is already scheduled to be phased out, and its the same year that the
> dupont patent expires. i think its '08, would have to confirm.f
>
>
>> I didn't used to be so cynical... but then I started paying attention.
>
> the EPA is a self-serving ----- that will not stop, as they must
> continually find fault in order to justify their existance. now that
> automotive emmissions have gone about as far as they realistically can,
> the EPA is going after small engine emmissions and all in the name of
> "saving the environment" which sounds good in theory but its gonna hit
> hard in the wallet.
>
> as of '06, 13 seer is mandatory. just wait until the next time you have
> an a/c unit replaced......and the customer looks at the service tech as if
> its his fault.
>
> --
> Nathan W. Collier
> http://UtilityOffRoad.com
> http://7SlotGrille.com
> http://InlineDiesel.com
> http://BighornRefrigeration.com
> http://ConcealedCarryForum.com
>
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Re: charging the ac
So we are going to have to install a $300 catalytic converter on our $99
mower?
My parents finally got central A/C last year. The guy explains all the
pros and cons of the different models and efficiencies. What surprised me
was when he said the higher SEER models had poor reliability and actually
discouraged that choice.
"Nathan W. Collier" <Nathan@NoSpam.com> wrote in message
news:gM3Yf.46$xm4.4059@news.uswest.net...
> "Jeff DeWitt" <JeffDeWitt@nc.rr.com> wrote in message
> news:ps1Yf.77601$%84.62271@tornado.southeast.rr.co m...
>>I think they are all still doing it under license to DuPont. It will be
>>interesting to see what happens when the patent for 134A runs out.
>
> 134a is already scheduled to be phased out, and its the same year that the
> dupont patent expires. i think its '08, would have to confirm.f
>
>
>> I didn't used to be so cynical... but then I started paying attention.
>
> the EPA is a self-serving ----- that will not stop, as they must
> continually find fault in order to justify their existance. now that
> automotive emmissions have gone about as far as they realistically can,
> the EPA is going after small engine emmissions and all in the name of
> "saving the environment" which sounds good in theory but its gonna hit
> hard in the wallet.
>
> as of '06, 13 seer is mandatory. just wait until the next time you have
> an a/c unit replaced......and the customer looks at the service tech as if
> its his fault.
>
> --
> Nathan W. Collier
> http://UtilityOffRoad.com
> http://7SlotGrille.com
> http://InlineDiesel.com
> http://BighornRefrigeration.com
> http://ConcealedCarryForum.com
>
mower?
My parents finally got central A/C last year. The guy explains all the
pros and cons of the different models and efficiencies. What surprised me
was when he said the higher SEER models had poor reliability and actually
discouraged that choice.
"Nathan W. Collier" <Nathan@NoSpam.com> wrote in message
news:gM3Yf.46$xm4.4059@news.uswest.net...
> "Jeff DeWitt" <JeffDeWitt@nc.rr.com> wrote in message
> news:ps1Yf.77601$%84.62271@tornado.southeast.rr.co m...
>>I think they are all still doing it under license to DuPont. It will be
>>interesting to see what happens when the patent for 134A runs out.
>
> 134a is already scheduled to be phased out, and its the same year that the
> dupont patent expires. i think its '08, would have to confirm.f
>
>
>> I didn't used to be so cynical... but then I started paying attention.
>
> the EPA is a self-serving ----- that will not stop, as they must
> continually find fault in order to justify their existance. now that
> automotive emmissions have gone about as far as they realistically can,
> the EPA is going after small engine emmissions and all in the name of
> "saving the environment" which sounds good in theory but its gonna hit
> hard in the wallet.
>
> as of '06, 13 seer is mandatory. just wait until the next time you have
> an a/c unit replaced......and the customer looks at the service tech as if
> its his fault.
>
> --
> Nathan W. Collier
> http://UtilityOffRoad.com
> http://7SlotGrille.com
> http://InlineDiesel.com
> http://BighornRefrigeration.com
> http://ConcealedCarryForum.com
>
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Re: charging the ac
You could carry around a huge block of dry ice. You wouldn't have to
mop that off the floor. ;^)
Earle
billy ray wrote:
> Perhaps we should just carry around huge blocks of ice.
>
> If you bore a few holes of appropriate size you will have ice chips and good
> cupholders!
>
>
> "L.W.(Bill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
> news:4430AE79.D24BCB93@***.net...
> > Then I'll just move my Bronco on to butane/propane.
> > God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> >
> > "Nathan W. Collier" wrote:
> >>
> >> and now that many companies are manufacturing 134a, guess what the next
> >> refrigerant to become restricted is.
> >>
> >> --
> >> Nathan W. Collier
> >> http://UtilityOffRoad.com
> >> http://7SlotGrille.com
> >> http://InlineDiesel.com
> >> http://BighornRefrigeration.com
> >> http://ConcealedCarryForum.com
mop that off the floor. ;^)
Earle
billy ray wrote:
> Perhaps we should just carry around huge blocks of ice.
>
> If you bore a few holes of appropriate size you will have ice chips and good
> cupholders!
>
>
> "L.W.(Bill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
> news:4430AE79.D24BCB93@***.net...
> > Then I'll just move my Bronco on to butane/propane.
> > God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> >
> > "Nathan W. Collier" wrote:
> >>
> >> and now that many companies are manufacturing 134a, guess what the next
> >> refrigerant to become restricted is.
> >>
> >> --
> >> Nathan W. Collier
> >> http://UtilityOffRoad.com
> >> http://7SlotGrille.com
> >> http://InlineDiesel.com
> >> http://BighornRefrigeration.com
> >> http://ConcealedCarryForum.com
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Re: charging the ac
You could carry around a huge block of dry ice. You wouldn't have to
mop that off the floor. ;^)
Earle
billy ray wrote:
> Perhaps we should just carry around huge blocks of ice.
>
> If you bore a few holes of appropriate size you will have ice chips and good
> cupholders!
>
>
> "L.W.(Bill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
> news:4430AE79.D24BCB93@***.net...
> > Then I'll just move my Bronco on to butane/propane.
> > God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> >
> > "Nathan W. Collier" wrote:
> >>
> >> and now that many companies are manufacturing 134a, guess what the next
> >> refrigerant to become restricted is.
> >>
> >> --
> >> Nathan W. Collier
> >> http://UtilityOffRoad.com
> >> http://7SlotGrille.com
> >> http://InlineDiesel.com
> >> http://BighornRefrigeration.com
> >> http://ConcealedCarryForum.com
mop that off the floor. ;^)
Earle
billy ray wrote:
> Perhaps we should just carry around huge blocks of ice.
>
> If you bore a few holes of appropriate size you will have ice chips and good
> cupholders!
>
>
> "L.W.(Bill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
> news:4430AE79.D24BCB93@***.net...
> > Then I'll just move my Bronco on to butane/propane.
> > God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> >
> > "Nathan W. Collier" wrote:
> >>
> >> and now that many companies are manufacturing 134a, guess what the next
> >> refrigerant to become restricted is.
> >>
> >> --
> >> Nathan W. Collier
> >> http://UtilityOffRoad.com
> >> http://7SlotGrille.com
> >> http://InlineDiesel.com
> >> http://BighornRefrigeration.com
> >> http://ConcealedCarryForum.com
Guest
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Re: charging the ac
You could carry around a huge block of dry ice. You wouldn't have to
mop that off the floor. ;^)
Earle
billy ray wrote:
> Perhaps we should just carry around huge blocks of ice.
>
> If you bore a few holes of appropriate size you will have ice chips and good
> cupholders!
>
>
> "L.W.(Bill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
> news:4430AE79.D24BCB93@***.net...
> > Then I'll just move my Bronco on to butane/propane.
> > God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> >
> > "Nathan W. Collier" wrote:
> >>
> >> and now that many companies are manufacturing 134a, guess what the next
> >> refrigerant to become restricted is.
> >>
> >> --
> >> Nathan W. Collier
> >> http://UtilityOffRoad.com
> >> http://7SlotGrille.com
> >> http://InlineDiesel.com
> >> http://BighornRefrigeration.com
> >> http://ConcealedCarryForum.com
mop that off the floor. ;^)
Earle
billy ray wrote:
> Perhaps we should just carry around huge blocks of ice.
>
> If you bore a few holes of appropriate size you will have ice chips and good
> cupholders!
>
>
> "L.W.(Bill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
> news:4430AE79.D24BCB93@***.net...
> > Then I'll just move my Bronco on to butane/propane.
> > God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> >
> > "Nathan W. Collier" wrote:
> >>
> >> and now that many companies are manufacturing 134a, guess what the next
> >> refrigerant to become restricted is.
> >>
> >> --
> >> Nathan W. Collier
> >> http://UtilityOffRoad.com
> >> http://7SlotGrille.com
> >> http://InlineDiesel.com
> >> http://BighornRefrigeration.com
> >> http://ConcealedCarryForum.com
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Re: charging the ac
Here we go again ;)
http://www.carkb.com/Uwe/Forum.aspx/...4a-Refrigerant
William Pughe wrote:
>Hi all. Every spring my ac doesn't work(94 grand cherokee), so I charge it
>and everything seems to be fine until the next spring. $10/year isn't bad.
>The ac doesn't work great, but it keeps things cool enough. What I'm
>wondering is would it be worth it to take it to someone who could put a
>vacuum on it to get all the air out first? I'm guessing air/moisture gets
>into the system over the winter and reduces the efficiency of the system.
>
>Thanks for any help.
>
>Will
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William Pughe wrote:
>Hi all. Every spring my ac doesn't work(94 grand cherokee), so I charge it
>and everything seems to be fine until the next spring. $10/year isn't bad.
>The ac doesn't work great, but it keeps things cool enough. What I'm
>wondering is would it be worth it to take it to someone who could put a
>vacuum on it to get all the air out first? I'm guessing air/moisture gets
>into the system over the winter and reduces the efficiency of the system.
>
>Thanks for any help.
>
>Will
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Re: charging the ac
Here we go again ;)
http://www.carkb.com/Uwe/Forum.aspx/...4a-Refrigerant
William Pughe wrote:
>Hi all. Every spring my ac doesn't work(94 grand cherokee), so I charge it
>and everything seems to be fine until the next spring. $10/year isn't bad.
>The ac doesn't work great, but it keeps things cool enough. What I'm
>wondering is would it be worth it to take it to someone who could put a
>vacuum on it to get all the air out first? I'm guessing air/moisture gets
>into the system over the winter and reduces the efficiency of the system.
>
>Thanks for any help.
>
>Will
--
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http://www.carkb.com/Uwe/Forum.aspx/...4a-Refrigerant
William Pughe wrote:
>Hi all. Every spring my ac doesn't work(94 grand cherokee), so I charge it
>and everything seems to be fine until the next spring. $10/year isn't bad.
>The ac doesn't work great, but it keeps things cool enough. What I'm
>wondering is would it be worth it to take it to someone who could put a
>vacuum on it to get all the air out first? I'm guessing air/moisture gets
>into the system over the winter and reduces the efficiency of the system.
>
>Thanks for any help.
>
>Will
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Re: charging the ac
Here we go again ;)
http://www.carkb.com/Uwe/Forum.aspx/...4a-Refrigerant
William Pughe wrote:
>Hi all. Every spring my ac doesn't work(94 grand cherokee), so I charge it
>and everything seems to be fine until the next spring. $10/year isn't bad.
>The ac doesn't work great, but it keeps things cool enough. What I'm
>wondering is would it be worth it to take it to someone who could put a
>vacuum on it to get all the air out first? I'm guessing air/moisture gets
>into the system over the winter and reduces the efficiency of the system.
>
>Thanks for any help.
>
>Will
--
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http://www.carkb.com/Uwe/Forum.aspx/...4a-Refrigerant
William Pughe wrote:
>Hi all. Every spring my ac doesn't work(94 grand cherokee), so I charge it
>and everything seems to be fine until the next spring. $10/year isn't bad.
>The ac doesn't work great, but it keeps things cool enough. What I'm
>wondering is would it be worth it to take it to someone who could put a
>vacuum on it to get all the air out first? I'm guessing air/moisture gets
>into the system over the winter and reduces the efficiency of the system.
>
>Thanks for any help.
>
>Will
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