Buncha questions about CJ engine swap.
08-24-2005, 10:18 PM
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Re: Buncha questions about CJ engine swap.
In the short term I just want gasoline prices to be stable. The price
changing 20-30 cents from one day to the next is for the birds.
If the OPEC folks want $60 a barrel that's fine. The US and Canada produce
most of the worlds corn, wheat and beef. Let's tie the price of their food
to the price of our oil.
You screw with us we'll cut off your food.....Payback's a bitch
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"Bret Ludwig" <bretldwig@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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>I don't want cheaper oil. I want the oil conserved so that we can have
> some time to deal with the reality of a planet with many billions of
> humans and no oil. People will not burn less oil unless the oil is more
> expensive. The Europeans have high oil prices and a basically decent
> standard of living, we can too.
>
> This is why I want the ANWR off limits-it will result in five years of
> less expensive oil, then we are back to square one. Leave the oil there
> for now and if, after we have implemented serious population and
> consumption controls that are working, it can be demonstrated using the
> oil will enable people to finish out their natural lives instead of
> dying of starvation, tap it then.
>
> Paying today's prices for gas for my go to work buggy hurts me like
> everyone else, but cheap oil is a disaster. Wishing cheap oil on
> America is like wishing for a cheap supply of crystal meth, heroin or
> crack cocaine.
>
> If people have to commute more than five to ten miles to work, they
> need mass transit or economical cars, and freight needs to go by rail
> instead of the Interstate Highways that result in a colossal subsidy of
> the trucking industry. If Class 8 trucks were to pay their share of
> road maintenance in the US based on diesel fuel, it would have to be at
> least $7 a gallon.
>
> I don't call that liberal. I call it the laws of thermodynamics. If
> you don't like them, complain to the Great Legislator.
>
changing 20-30 cents from one day to the next is for the birds.
If the OPEC folks want $60 a barrel that's fine. The US and Canada produce
most of the worlds corn, wheat and beef. Let's tie the price of their food
to the price of our oil.
You screw with us we'll cut off your food.....Payback's a bitch
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"Bret Ludwig" <bretldwig@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1124931421.924306.14550@g47g2000cwa.googlegro ups.com...
>I don't want cheaper oil. I want the oil conserved so that we can have
> some time to deal with the reality of a planet with many billions of
> humans and no oil. People will not burn less oil unless the oil is more
> expensive. The Europeans have high oil prices and a basically decent
> standard of living, we can too.
>
> This is why I want the ANWR off limits-it will result in five years of
> less expensive oil, then we are back to square one. Leave the oil there
> for now and if, after we have implemented serious population and
> consumption controls that are working, it can be demonstrated using the
> oil will enable people to finish out their natural lives instead of
> dying of starvation, tap it then.
>
> Paying today's prices for gas for my go to work buggy hurts me like
> everyone else, but cheap oil is a disaster. Wishing cheap oil on
> America is like wishing for a cheap supply of crystal meth, heroin or
> crack cocaine.
>
> If people have to commute more than five to ten miles to work, they
> need mass transit or economical cars, and freight needs to go by rail
> instead of the Interstate Highways that result in a colossal subsidy of
> the trucking industry. If Class 8 trucks were to pay their share of
> road maintenance in the US based on diesel fuel, it would have to be at
> least $7 a gallon.
>
> I don't call that liberal. I call it the laws of thermodynamics. If
> you don't like them, complain to the Great Legislator.
>
08-24-2005, 10:18 PM
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Re: Buncha questions about CJ engine swap.
In the short term I just want gasoline prices to be stable. The price
changing 20-30 cents from one day to the next is for the birds.
If the OPEC folks want $60 a barrel that's fine. The US and Canada produce
most of the worlds corn, wheat and beef. Let's tie the price of their food
to the price of our oil.
You screw with us we'll cut off your food.....Payback's a bitch
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"Bret Ludwig" <bretldwig@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1124931421.924306.14550@g47g2000cwa.googlegro ups.com...
>I don't want cheaper oil. I want the oil conserved so that we can have
> some time to deal with the reality of a planet with many billions of
> humans and no oil. People will not burn less oil unless the oil is more
> expensive. The Europeans have high oil prices and a basically decent
> standard of living, we can too.
>
> This is why I want the ANWR off limits-it will result in five years of
> less expensive oil, then we are back to square one. Leave the oil there
> for now and if, after we have implemented serious population and
> consumption controls that are working, it can be demonstrated using the
> oil will enable people to finish out their natural lives instead of
> dying of starvation, tap it then.
>
> Paying today's prices for gas for my go to work buggy hurts me like
> everyone else, but cheap oil is a disaster. Wishing cheap oil on
> America is like wishing for a cheap supply of crystal meth, heroin or
> crack cocaine.
>
> If people have to commute more than five to ten miles to work, they
> need mass transit or economical cars, and freight needs to go by rail
> instead of the Interstate Highways that result in a colossal subsidy of
> the trucking industry. If Class 8 trucks were to pay their share of
> road maintenance in the US based on diesel fuel, it would have to be at
> least $7 a gallon.
>
> I don't call that liberal. I call it the laws of thermodynamics. If
> you don't like them, complain to the Great Legislator.
>
changing 20-30 cents from one day to the next is for the birds.
If the OPEC folks want $60 a barrel that's fine. The US and Canada produce
most of the worlds corn, wheat and beef. Let's tie the price of their food
to the price of our oil.
You screw with us we'll cut off your food.....Payback's a bitch
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"Bret Ludwig" <bretldwig@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1124931421.924306.14550@g47g2000cwa.googlegro ups.com...
>I don't want cheaper oil. I want the oil conserved so that we can have
> some time to deal with the reality of a planet with many billions of
> humans and no oil. People will not burn less oil unless the oil is more
> expensive. The Europeans have high oil prices and a basically decent
> standard of living, we can too.
>
> This is why I want the ANWR off limits-it will result in five years of
> less expensive oil, then we are back to square one. Leave the oil there
> for now and if, after we have implemented serious population and
> consumption controls that are working, it can be demonstrated using the
> oil will enable people to finish out their natural lives instead of
> dying of starvation, tap it then.
>
> Paying today's prices for gas for my go to work buggy hurts me like
> everyone else, but cheap oil is a disaster. Wishing cheap oil on
> America is like wishing for a cheap supply of crystal meth, heroin or
> crack cocaine.
>
> If people have to commute more than five to ten miles to work, they
> need mass transit or economical cars, and freight needs to go by rail
> instead of the Interstate Highways that result in a colossal subsidy of
> the trucking industry. If Class 8 trucks were to pay their share of
> road maintenance in the US based on diesel fuel, it would have to be at
> least $7 a gallon.
>
> I don't call that liberal. I call it the laws of thermodynamics. If
> you don't like them, complain to the Great Legislator.
>
08-24-2005, 10:18 PM
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Re: Buncha questions about CJ engine swap.
In the short term I just want gasoline prices to be stable. The price
changing 20-30 cents from one day to the next is for the birds.
If the OPEC folks want $60 a barrel that's fine. The US and Canada produce
most of the worlds corn, wheat and beef. Let's tie the price of their food
to the price of our oil.
You screw with us we'll cut off your food.....Payback's a bitch
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"Bret Ludwig" <bretldwig@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1124931421.924306.14550@g47g2000cwa.googlegro ups.com...
>I don't want cheaper oil. I want the oil conserved so that we can have
> some time to deal with the reality of a planet with many billions of
> humans and no oil. People will not burn less oil unless the oil is more
> expensive. The Europeans have high oil prices and a basically decent
> standard of living, we can too.
>
> This is why I want the ANWR off limits-it will result in five years of
> less expensive oil, then we are back to square one. Leave the oil there
> for now and if, after we have implemented serious population and
> consumption controls that are working, it can be demonstrated using the
> oil will enable people to finish out their natural lives instead of
> dying of starvation, tap it then.
>
> Paying today's prices for gas for my go to work buggy hurts me like
> everyone else, but cheap oil is a disaster. Wishing cheap oil on
> America is like wishing for a cheap supply of crystal meth, heroin or
> crack cocaine.
>
> If people have to commute more than five to ten miles to work, they
> need mass transit or economical cars, and freight needs to go by rail
> instead of the Interstate Highways that result in a colossal subsidy of
> the trucking industry. If Class 8 trucks were to pay their share of
> road maintenance in the US based on diesel fuel, it would have to be at
> least $7 a gallon.
>
> I don't call that liberal. I call it the laws of thermodynamics. If
> you don't like them, complain to the Great Legislator.
>
changing 20-30 cents from one day to the next is for the birds.
If the OPEC folks want $60 a barrel that's fine. The US and Canada produce
most of the worlds corn, wheat and beef. Let's tie the price of their food
to the price of our oil.
You screw with us we'll cut off your food.....Payback's a bitch
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"Bret Ludwig" <bretldwig@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1124931421.924306.14550@g47g2000cwa.googlegro ups.com...
>I don't want cheaper oil. I want the oil conserved so that we can have
> some time to deal with the reality of a planet with many billions of
> humans and no oil. People will not burn less oil unless the oil is more
> expensive. The Europeans have high oil prices and a basically decent
> standard of living, we can too.
>
> This is why I want the ANWR off limits-it will result in five years of
> less expensive oil, then we are back to square one. Leave the oil there
> for now and if, after we have implemented serious population and
> consumption controls that are working, it can be demonstrated using the
> oil will enable people to finish out their natural lives instead of
> dying of starvation, tap it then.
>
> Paying today's prices for gas for my go to work buggy hurts me like
> everyone else, but cheap oil is a disaster. Wishing cheap oil on
> America is like wishing for a cheap supply of crystal meth, heroin or
> crack cocaine.
>
> If people have to commute more than five to ten miles to work, they
> need mass transit or economical cars, and freight needs to go by rail
> instead of the Interstate Highways that result in a colossal subsidy of
> the trucking industry. If Class 8 trucks were to pay their share of
> road maintenance in the US based on diesel fuel, it would have to be at
> least $7 a gallon.
>
> I don't call that liberal. I call it the laws of thermodynamics. If
> you don't like them, complain to the Great Legislator.
>
08-24-2005, 10:26 PM
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Re: Buncha questions about CJ engine swap.
Russia has far more oil than they can use. Their known reservesw are second
only to Saudi Arabia. They can't sell it because they have no way to
transport it and no western company is going to build the infrastructure
needed and risk nationalization AGAIN.
http://www.mosnews.com/money/2004/04...reserves.shtml
I'd be willing to bet that engineers could build a pipeline across the
Bering Straits if the Russkies could get the oil to their side. The US
would buy all the oil they could pump.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bering_Strait
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"L.W. ("ßill") ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
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> I said: "Gasoline at four or five bucks a gallon is the cheapest
> expense of operation of a vehicle." And it's the cheapest product we
> sell. And don't give me that Lying Liberal bullsh*t about running our of
> petroleum! Every hear of Russia?
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Bret Ludwig wrote:
>>
>> I don't want cheaper oil. I want the oil conserved so that we can have
>> some time to deal with the reality of a planet with many billions of
>> humans and no oil. People will not burn less oil unless the oil is more
>> expensive. The Europeans have high oil prices and a basically decent
>> standard of living, we can too.
>>
>> This is why I want the ANWR off limits-it will result in five years of
>> less expensive oil, then we are back to square one. Leave the oil there
>> for now and if, after we have implemented serious population and
>> consumption controls that are working, it can be demonstrated using the
>> oil will enable people to finish out their natural lives instead of
>> dying of starvation, tap it then.
>>
>> Paying today's prices for gas for my go to work buggy hurts me like
>> everyone else, but cheap oil is a disaster. Wishing cheap oil on
>> America is like wishing for a cheap supply of crystal meth, heroin or
>> crack cocaine.
>>
>> If people have to commute more than five to ten miles to work, they
>> need mass transit or economical cars, and freight needs to go by rail
>> instead of the Interstate Highways that result in a colossal subsidy of
>> the trucking industry. If Class 8 trucks were to pay their share of
>> road maintenance in the US based on diesel fuel, it would have to be at
>> least $7 a gallon.
>>
>> I don't call that liberal. I call it the laws of thermodynamics. If
>> you don't like them, complain to the Great Legislator.
only to Saudi Arabia. They can't sell it because they have no way to
transport it and no western company is going to build the infrastructure
needed and risk nationalization AGAIN.
http://www.mosnews.com/money/2004/04...reserves.shtml
I'd be willing to bet that engineers could build a pipeline across the
Bering Straits if the Russkies could get the oil to their side. The US
would buy all the oil they could pump.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bering_Strait
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"L.W. ("ßill") ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
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> I said: "Gasoline at four or five bucks a gallon is the cheapest
> expense of operation of a vehicle." And it's the cheapest product we
> sell. And don't give me that Lying Liberal bullsh*t about running our of
> petroleum! Every hear of Russia?
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Bret Ludwig wrote:
>>
>> I don't want cheaper oil. I want the oil conserved so that we can have
>> some time to deal with the reality of a planet with many billions of
>> humans and no oil. People will not burn less oil unless the oil is more
>> expensive. The Europeans have high oil prices and a basically decent
>> standard of living, we can too.
>>
>> This is why I want the ANWR off limits-it will result in five years of
>> less expensive oil, then we are back to square one. Leave the oil there
>> for now and if, after we have implemented serious population and
>> consumption controls that are working, it can be demonstrated using the
>> oil will enable people to finish out their natural lives instead of
>> dying of starvation, tap it then.
>>
>> Paying today's prices for gas for my go to work buggy hurts me like
>> everyone else, but cheap oil is a disaster. Wishing cheap oil on
>> America is like wishing for a cheap supply of crystal meth, heroin or
>> crack cocaine.
>>
>> If people have to commute more than five to ten miles to work, they
>> need mass transit or economical cars, and freight needs to go by rail
>> instead of the Interstate Highways that result in a colossal subsidy of
>> the trucking industry. If Class 8 trucks were to pay their share of
>> road maintenance in the US based on diesel fuel, it would have to be at
>> least $7 a gallon.
>>
>> I don't call that liberal. I call it the laws of thermodynamics. If
>> you don't like them, complain to the Great Legislator.
08-24-2005, 10:26 PM
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Re: Buncha questions about CJ engine swap.
Russia has far more oil than they can use. Their known reservesw are second
only to Saudi Arabia. They can't sell it because they have no way to
transport it and no western company is going to build the infrastructure
needed and risk nationalization AGAIN.
http://www.mosnews.com/money/2004/04...reserves.shtml
I'd be willing to bet that engineers could build a pipeline across the
Bering Straits if the Russkies could get the oil to their side. The US
would buy all the oil they could pump.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bering_Strait
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"L.W. ("ßill") ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:430D2905.3DEA8123@***.net...
> I said: "Gasoline at four or five bucks a gallon is the cheapest
> expense of operation of a vehicle." And it's the cheapest product we
> sell. And don't give me that Lying Liberal bullsh*t about running our of
> petroleum! Every hear of Russia?
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Bret Ludwig wrote:
>>
>> I don't want cheaper oil. I want the oil conserved so that we can have
>> some time to deal with the reality of a planet with many billions of
>> humans and no oil. People will not burn less oil unless the oil is more
>> expensive. The Europeans have high oil prices and a basically decent
>> standard of living, we can too.
>>
>> This is why I want the ANWR off limits-it will result in five years of
>> less expensive oil, then we are back to square one. Leave the oil there
>> for now and if, after we have implemented serious population and
>> consumption controls that are working, it can be demonstrated using the
>> oil will enable people to finish out their natural lives instead of
>> dying of starvation, tap it then.
>>
>> Paying today's prices for gas for my go to work buggy hurts me like
>> everyone else, but cheap oil is a disaster. Wishing cheap oil on
>> America is like wishing for a cheap supply of crystal meth, heroin or
>> crack cocaine.
>>
>> If people have to commute more than five to ten miles to work, they
>> need mass transit or economical cars, and freight needs to go by rail
>> instead of the Interstate Highways that result in a colossal subsidy of
>> the trucking industry. If Class 8 trucks were to pay their share of
>> road maintenance in the US based on diesel fuel, it would have to be at
>> least $7 a gallon.
>>
>> I don't call that liberal. I call it the laws of thermodynamics. If
>> you don't like them, complain to the Great Legislator.
only to Saudi Arabia. They can't sell it because they have no way to
transport it and no western company is going to build the infrastructure
needed and risk nationalization AGAIN.
http://www.mosnews.com/money/2004/04...reserves.shtml
I'd be willing to bet that engineers could build a pipeline across the
Bering Straits if the Russkies could get the oil to their side. The US
would buy all the oil they could pump.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bering_Strait
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"L.W. ("ßill") ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:430D2905.3DEA8123@***.net...
> I said: "Gasoline at four or five bucks a gallon is the cheapest
> expense of operation of a vehicle." And it's the cheapest product we
> sell. And don't give me that Lying Liberal bullsh*t about running our of
> petroleum! Every hear of Russia?
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Bret Ludwig wrote:
>>
>> I don't want cheaper oil. I want the oil conserved so that we can have
>> some time to deal with the reality of a planet with many billions of
>> humans and no oil. People will not burn less oil unless the oil is more
>> expensive. The Europeans have high oil prices and a basically decent
>> standard of living, we can too.
>>
>> This is why I want the ANWR off limits-it will result in five years of
>> less expensive oil, then we are back to square one. Leave the oil there
>> for now and if, after we have implemented serious population and
>> consumption controls that are working, it can be demonstrated using the
>> oil will enable people to finish out their natural lives instead of
>> dying of starvation, tap it then.
>>
>> Paying today's prices for gas for my go to work buggy hurts me like
>> everyone else, but cheap oil is a disaster. Wishing cheap oil on
>> America is like wishing for a cheap supply of crystal meth, heroin or
>> crack cocaine.
>>
>> If people have to commute more than five to ten miles to work, they
>> need mass transit or economical cars, and freight needs to go by rail
>> instead of the Interstate Highways that result in a colossal subsidy of
>> the trucking industry. If Class 8 trucks were to pay their share of
>> road maintenance in the US based on diesel fuel, it would have to be at
>> least $7 a gallon.
>>
>> I don't call that liberal. I call it the laws of thermodynamics. If
>> you don't like them, complain to the Great Legislator.
08-24-2005, 10:26 PM
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Re: Buncha questions about CJ engine swap.
Russia has far more oil than they can use. Their known reservesw are second
only to Saudi Arabia. They can't sell it because they have no way to
transport it and no western company is going to build the infrastructure
needed and risk nationalization AGAIN.
http://www.mosnews.com/money/2004/04...reserves.shtml
I'd be willing to bet that engineers could build a pipeline across the
Bering Straits if the Russkies could get the oil to their side. The US
would buy all the oil they could pump.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bering_Strait
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"L.W. ("ßill") ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:430D2905.3DEA8123@***.net...
> I said: "Gasoline at four or five bucks a gallon is the cheapest
> expense of operation of a vehicle." And it's the cheapest product we
> sell. And don't give me that Lying Liberal bullsh*t about running our of
> petroleum! Every hear of Russia?
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Bret Ludwig wrote:
>>
>> I don't want cheaper oil. I want the oil conserved so that we can have
>> some time to deal with the reality of a planet with many billions of
>> humans and no oil. People will not burn less oil unless the oil is more
>> expensive. The Europeans have high oil prices and a basically decent
>> standard of living, we can too.
>>
>> This is why I want the ANWR off limits-it will result in five years of
>> less expensive oil, then we are back to square one. Leave the oil there
>> for now and if, after we have implemented serious population and
>> consumption controls that are working, it can be demonstrated using the
>> oil will enable people to finish out their natural lives instead of
>> dying of starvation, tap it then.
>>
>> Paying today's prices for gas for my go to work buggy hurts me like
>> everyone else, but cheap oil is a disaster. Wishing cheap oil on
>> America is like wishing for a cheap supply of crystal meth, heroin or
>> crack cocaine.
>>
>> If people have to commute more than five to ten miles to work, they
>> need mass transit or economical cars, and freight needs to go by rail
>> instead of the Interstate Highways that result in a colossal subsidy of
>> the trucking industry. If Class 8 trucks were to pay their share of
>> road maintenance in the US based on diesel fuel, it would have to be at
>> least $7 a gallon.
>>
>> I don't call that liberal. I call it the laws of thermodynamics. If
>> you don't like them, complain to the Great Legislator.
only to Saudi Arabia. They can't sell it because they have no way to
transport it and no western company is going to build the infrastructure
needed and risk nationalization AGAIN.
http://www.mosnews.com/money/2004/04...reserves.shtml
I'd be willing to bet that engineers could build a pipeline across the
Bering Straits if the Russkies could get the oil to their side. The US
would buy all the oil they could pump.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bering_Strait
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"L.W. ("ßill") ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:430D2905.3DEA8123@***.net...
> I said: "Gasoline at four or five bucks a gallon is the cheapest
> expense of operation of a vehicle." And it's the cheapest product we
> sell. And don't give me that Lying Liberal bullsh*t about running our of
> petroleum! Every hear of Russia?
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Bret Ludwig wrote:
>>
>> I don't want cheaper oil. I want the oil conserved so that we can have
>> some time to deal with the reality of a planet with many billions of
>> humans and no oil. People will not burn less oil unless the oil is more
>> expensive. The Europeans have high oil prices and a basically decent
>> standard of living, we can too.
>>
>> This is why I want the ANWR off limits-it will result in five years of
>> less expensive oil, then we are back to square one. Leave the oil there
>> for now and if, after we have implemented serious population and
>> consumption controls that are working, it can be demonstrated using the
>> oil will enable people to finish out their natural lives instead of
>> dying of starvation, tap it then.
>>
>> Paying today's prices for gas for my go to work buggy hurts me like
>> everyone else, but cheap oil is a disaster. Wishing cheap oil on
>> America is like wishing for a cheap supply of crystal meth, heroin or
>> crack cocaine.
>>
>> If people have to commute more than five to ten miles to work, they
>> need mass transit or economical cars, and freight needs to go by rail
>> instead of the Interstate Highways that result in a colossal subsidy of
>> the trucking industry. If Class 8 trucks were to pay their share of
>> road maintenance in the US based on diesel fuel, it would have to be at
>> least $7 a gallon.
>>
>> I don't call that liberal. I call it the laws of thermodynamics. If
>> you don't like them, complain to the Great Legislator.
08-24-2005, 10:26 PM
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Re: Buncha questions about CJ engine swap.
Russia has far more oil than they can use. Their known reservesw are second
only to Saudi Arabia. They can't sell it because they have no way to
transport it and no western company is going to build the infrastructure
needed and risk nationalization AGAIN.
http://www.mosnews.com/money/2004/04...reserves.shtml
I'd be willing to bet that engineers could build a pipeline across the
Bering Straits if the Russkies could get the oil to their side. The US
would buy all the oil they could pump.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bering_Strait
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"L.W. ("ßill") ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
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> I said: "Gasoline at four or five bucks a gallon is the cheapest
> expense of operation of a vehicle." And it's the cheapest product we
> sell. And don't give me that Lying Liberal bullsh*t about running our of
> petroleum! Every hear of Russia?
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Bret Ludwig wrote:
>>
>> I don't want cheaper oil. I want the oil conserved so that we can have
>> some time to deal with the reality of a planet with many billions of
>> humans and no oil. People will not burn less oil unless the oil is more
>> expensive. The Europeans have high oil prices and a basically decent
>> standard of living, we can too.
>>
>> This is why I want the ANWR off limits-it will result in five years of
>> less expensive oil, then we are back to square one. Leave the oil there
>> for now and if, after we have implemented serious population and
>> consumption controls that are working, it can be demonstrated using the
>> oil will enable people to finish out their natural lives instead of
>> dying of starvation, tap it then.
>>
>> Paying today's prices for gas for my go to work buggy hurts me like
>> everyone else, but cheap oil is a disaster. Wishing cheap oil on
>> America is like wishing for a cheap supply of crystal meth, heroin or
>> crack cocaine.
>>
>> If people have to commute more than five to ten miles to work, they
>> need mass transit or economical cars, and freight needs to go by rail
>> instead of the Interstate Highways that result in a colossal subsidy of
>> the trucking industry. If Class 8 trucks were to pay their share of
>> road maintenance in the US based on diesel fuel, it would have to be at
>> least $7 a gallon.
>>
>> I don't call that liberal. I call it the laws of thermodynamics. If
>> you don't like them, complain to the Great Legislator.
only to Saudi Arabia. They can't sell it because they have no way to
transport it and no western company is going to build the infrastructure
needed and risk nationalization AGAIN.
http://www.mosnews.com/money/2004/04...reserves.shtml
I'd be willing to bet that engineers could build a pipeline across the
Bering Straits if the Russkies could get the oil to their side. The US
would buy all the oil they could pump.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bering_Strait
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"L.W. ("ßill") ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:430D2905.3DEA8123@***.net...
> I said: "Gasoline at four or five bucks a gallon is the cheapest
> expense of operation of a vehicle." And it's the cheapest product we
> sell. And don't give me that Lying Liberal bullsh*t about running our of
> petroleum! Every hear of Russia?
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Bret Ludwig wrote:
>>
>> I don't want cheaper oil. I want the oil conserved so that we can have
>> some time to deal with the reality of a planet with many billions of
>> humans and no oil. People will not burn less oil unless the oil is more
>> expensive. The Europeans have high oil prices and a basically decent
>> standard of living, we can too.
>>
>> This is why I want the ANWR off limits-it will result in five years of
>> less expensive oil, then we are back to square one. Leave the oil there
>> for now and if, after we have implemented serious population and
>> consumption controls that are working, it can be demonstrated using the
>> oil will enable people to finish out their natural lives instead of
>> dying of starvation, tap it then.
>>
>> Paying today's prices for gas for my go to work buggy hurts me like
>> everyone else, but cheap oil is a disaster. Wishing cheap oil on
>> America is like wishing for a cheap supply of crystal meth, heroin or
>> crack cocaine.
>>
>> If people have to commute more than five to ten miles to work, they
>> need mass transit or economical cars, and freight needs to go by rail
>> instead of the Interstate Highways that result in a colossal subsidy of
>> the trucking industry. If Class 8 trucks were to pay their share of
>> road maintenance in the US based on diesel fuel, it would have to be at
>> least $7 a gallon.
>>
>> I don't call that liberal. I call it the laws of thermodynamics. If
>> you don't like them, complain to the Great Legislator.
08-24-2005, 11:01 PM
#58
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Re: Buncha questions about CJ engine swap.
Sounds like fun, take lots of picture and send them to me to show
if you don't have the web storage.
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Billy Ray wrote:
>
> Bill,
> If you want to be THE King of the Hill... Gravelrama is one month from
> tomorrow in Cincinnati
>
> http://www.gravelrama.com/
>
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> 2002 Jeep WJ 4 Liter Automatic
> Brilliant Black Crystal Pearl Coat
> Sharing is why we are all here....... or should be.
if you don't have the web storage.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Billy Ray wrote:
>
> Bill,
> If you want to be THE King of the Hill... Gravelrama is one month from
> tomorrow in Cincinnati
>
> http://www.gravelrama.com/
>
> --
> .
> Billy_Ray@SPAM.fuse.net (remove SPAM)
> 2002 Jeep WJ 4 Liter Automatic
> Brilliant Black Crystal Pearl Coat
> Sharing is why we are all here....... or should be.
08-24-2005, 11:01 PM
#59
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Re: Buncha questions about CJ engine swap.
Sounds like fun, take lots of picture and send them to me to show
if you don't have the web storage.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Billy Ray wrote:
>
> Bill,
> If you want to be THE King of the Hill... Gravelrama is one month from
> tomorrow in Cincinnati
>
> http://www.gravelrama.com/
>
> --
> .
> Billy_Ray@SPAM.fuse.net (remove SPAM)
> 2002 Jeep WJ 4 Liter Automatic
> Brilliant Black Crystal Pearl Coat
> Sharing is why we are all here....... or should be.
if you don't have the web storage.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Billy Ray wrote:
>
> Bill,
> If you want to be THE King of the Hill... Gravelrama is one month from
> tomorrow in Cincinnati
>
> http://www.gravelrama.com/
>
> --
> .
> Billy_Ray@SPAM.fuse.net (remove SPAM)
> 2002 Jeep WJ 4 Liter Automatic
> Brilliant Black Crystal Pearl Coat
> Sharing is why we are all here....... or should be.
08-24-2005, 11:01 PM
#60
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Re: Buncha questions about CJ engine swap.
Sounds like fun, take lots of picture and send them to me to show
if you don't have the web storage.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Billy Ray wrote:
>
> Bill,
> If you want to be THE King of the Hill... Gravelrama is one month from
> tomorrow in Cincinnati
>
> http://www.gravelrama.com/
>
> --
> .
> Billy_Ray@SPAM.fuse.net (remove SPAM)
> 2002 Jeep WJ 4 Liter Automatic
> Brilliant Black Crystal Pearl Coat
> Sharing is why we are all here....... or should be.
if you don't have the web storage.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Billy Ray wrote:
>
> Bill,
> If you want to be THE King of the Hill... Gravelrama is one month from
> tomorrow in Cincinnati
>
> http://www.gravelrama.com/
>
> --
> .
> Billy_Ray@SPAM.fuse.net (remove SPAM)
> 2002 Jeep WJ 4 Liter Automatic
> Brilliant Black Crystal Pearl Coat
> Sharing is why we are all here....... or should be.