Buncha questions about CJ engine swap.
08-24-2005, 07:47 PM
#21
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Re: Buncha questions about CJ engine swap.
Bill,
AA is the place to go to make the 4.0 crank position sensor work too. I
figure this Bret fellow bought an adapter from AA or Novak, and expected it
to come with instructions and a whole conversion kit. The AA catalog and
web site are up front about how more than usual mechanical skill, and
ability to fabricate odd parts, are required for this kind of swap.
The problem with the 4.0 is that you would need the wiring, sensors
including the speedometer, and the computer. Since the original poster has
a roll over Cherokee, he should have everything needed for a successful
conversion. It's just a question of which parts to use, and where. My
recommendation is to study the AA conversion manual, available at
http://www.advanceadapters.com/, figure out what you want to do, and then
run your plan by one of their sales persons. Or Novak.
Earle
"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:430D033E.37863371@***.net...
> What experience have you had with Advance Adapters? They made the
> original adapter for Kaiser's Buick V6 to T-90, T-14.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Bret Ludwig wrote:
> >
> > Depending on what you can get away with emissionswise in your state,
> > you probably want to swap the whole engine and use some form of EFI or
> > a carb setup. Advance and Novak are mickeymouse vendors selling a line
> > of shrinkwrapped and often mickey mouse products.
> >
> > **** on the overrated small block Chevy. Want a Chevy, buy a whole
> > Chevy, I say.
AA is the place to go to make the 4.0 crank position sensor work too. I
figure this Bret fellow bought an adapter from AA or Novak, and expected it
to come with instructions and a whole conversion kit. The AA catalog and
web site are up front about how more than usual mechanical skill, and
ability to fabricate odd parts, are required for this kind of swap.
The problem with the 4.0 is that you would need the wiring, sensors
including the speedometer, and the computer. Since the original poster has
a roll over Cherokee, he should have everything needed for a successful
conversion. It's just a question of which parts to use, and where. My
recommendation is to study the AA conversion manual, available at
http://www.advanceadapters.com/, figure out what you want to do, and then
run your plan by one of their sales persons. Or Novak.
Earle
"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:430D033E.37863371@***.net...
> What experience have you had with Advance Adapters? They made the
> original adapter for Kaiser's Buick V6 to T-90, T-14.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Bret Ludwig wrote:
> >
> > Depending on what you can get away with emissionswise in your state,
> > you probably want to swap the whole engine and use some form of EFI or
> > a carb setup. Advance and Novak are mickeymouse vendors selling a line
> > of shrinkwrapped and often mickey mouse products.
> >
> > **** on the overrated small block Chevy. Want a Chevy, buy a whole
> > Chevy, I say.
08-24-2005, 08:04 PM
#22
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Re: Buncha questions about CJ engine swap.
Geez, I've always just let my local Tool and Die Maker make
prototypes.
Seems to me Chevy is the number one choice:
http://search.ebay.com/CJ-chevy_W0QQ...ageNameZRC0024
Especially if you like to be King of the Hill, like me:
http://www.----------.com/pismo.htm
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:--------------------
Bret Ludwig wrote:
>
> Back in the day when they would do custom work my company had them do
> several things. They were repeatedly unable to read blueprints, we
> brought the stuff in-house, and then they went to a production catalog
> house operation. Yes there are production vehicles with adapters,
> just like there are production vehicles with a lot of things there
> shouldn't be.
>
> The small block Chevy is not the right engine for any Jeep product,
> except the Grand Wagoneer maybe. The four liter late six is a much
> better engine than it is given credit for.
>
> The stock EFI air system and injectors can be operated from an
> aftermarket ECU. Several good ones exist, but I'd look at Clifford's if
> you are not a code-head.
prototypes.
Seems to me Chevy is the number one choice:
http://search.ebay.com/CJ-chevy_W0QQ...ageNameZRC0024
Especially if you like to be King of the Hill, like me:
http://www.----------.com/pismo.htm
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:--------------------
Bret Ludwig wrote:
>
> Back in the day when they would do custom work my company had them do
> several things. They were repeatedly unable to read blueprints, we
> brought the stuff in-house, and then they went to a production catalog
> house operation. Yes there are production vehicles with adapters,
> just like there are production vehicles with a lot of things there
> shouldn't be.
>
> The small block Chevy is not the right engine for any Jeep product,
> except the Grand Wagoneer maybe. The four liter late six is a much
> better engine than it is given credit for.
>
> The stock EFI air system and injectors can be operated from an
> aftermarket ECU. Several good ones exist, but I'd look at Clifford's if
> you are not a code-head.
08-24-2005, 08:04 PM
#23
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Re: Buncha questions about CJ engine swap.
Geez, I've always just let my local Tool and Die Maker make
prototypes.
Seems to me Chevy is the number one choice:
http://search.ebay.com/CJ-chevy_W0QQ...ageNameZRC0024
Especially if you like to be King of the Hill, like me:
http://www.----------.com/pismo.htm
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:--------------------
Bret Ludwig wrote:
>
> Back in the day when they would do custom work my company had them do
> several things. They were repeatedly unable to read blueprints, we
> brought the stuff in-house, and then they went to a production catalog
> house operation. Yes there are production vehicles with adapters,
> just like there are production vehicles with a lot of things there
> shouldn't be.
>
> The small block Chevy is not the right engine for any Jeep product,
> except the Grand Wagoneer maybe. The four liter late six is a much
> better engine than it is given credit for.
>
> The stock EFI air system and injectors can be operated from an
> aftermarket ECU. Several good ones exist, but I'd look at Clifford's if
> you are not a code-head.
prototypes.
Seems to me Chevy is the number one choice:
http://search.ebay.com/CJ-chevy_W0QQ...ageNameZRC0024
Especially if you like to be King of the Hill, like me:
http://www.----------.com/pismo.htm
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:--------------------
Bret Ludwig wrote:
>
> Back in the day when they would do custom work my company had them do
> several things. They were repeatedly unable to read blueprints, we
> brought the stuff in-house, and then they went to a production catalog
> house operation. Yes there are production vehicles with adapters,
> just like there are production vehicles with a lot of things there
> shouldn't be.
>
> The small block Chevy is not the right engine for any Jeep product,
> except the Grand Wagoneer maybe. The four liter late six is a much
> better engine than it is given credit for.
>
> The stock EFI air system and injectors can be operated from an
> aftermarket ECU. Several good ones exist, but I'd look at Clifford's if
> you are not a code-head.
08-24-2005, 08:04 PM
#24
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Posts: n/a
Re: Buncha questions about CJ engine swap.
Geez, I've always just let my local Tool and Die Maker make
prototypes.
Seems to me Chevy is the number one choice:
http://search.ebay.com/CJ-chevy_W0QQ...ageNameZRC0024
Especially if you like to be King of the Hill, like me:
http://www.----------.com/pismo.htm
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:--------------------
Bret Ludwig wrote:
>
> Back in the day when they would do custom work my company had them do
> several things. They were repeatedly unable to read blueprints, we
> brought the stuff in-house, and then they went to a production catalog
> house operation. Yes there are production vehicles with adapters,
> just like there are production vehicles with a lot of things there
> shouldn't be.
>
> The small block Chevy is not the right engine for any Jeep product,
> except the Grand Wagoneer maybe. The four liter late six is a much
> better engine than it is given credit for.
>
> The stock EFI air system and injectors can be operated from an
> aftermarket ECU. Several good ones exist, but I'd look at Clifford's if
> you are not a code-head.
prototypes.
Seems to me Chevy is the number one choice:
http://search.ebay.com/CJ-chevy_W0QQ...ageNameZRC0024
Especially if you like to be King of the Hill, like me:
http://www.----------.com/pismo.htm
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:--------------------
Bret Ludwig wrote:
>
> Back in the day when they would do custom work my company had them do
> several things. They were repeatedly unable to read blueprints, we
> brought the stuff in-house, and then they went to a production catalog
> house operation. Yes there are production vehicles with adapters,
> just like there are production vehicles with a lot of things there
> shouldn't be.
>
> The small block Chevy is not the right engine for any Jeep product,
> except the Grand Wagoneer maybe. The four liter late six is a much
> better engine than it is given credit for.
>
> The stock EFI air system and injectors can be operated from an
> aftermarket ECU. Several good ones exist, but I'd look at Clifford's if
> you are not a code-head.
08-24-2005, 08:04 PM
#25
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Posts: n/a
Re: Buncha questions about CJ engine swap.
Geez, I've always just let my local Tool and Die Maker make
prototypes.
Seems to me Chevy is the number one choice:
http://search.ebay.com/CJ-chevy_W0QQ...ageNameZRC0024
Especially if you like to be King of the Hill, like me:
http://www.----------.com/pismo.htm
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:--------------------
Bret Ludwig wrote:
>
> Back in the day when they would do custom work my company had them do
> several things. They were repeatedly unable to read blueprints, we
> brought the stuff in-house, and then they went to a production catalog
> house operation. Yes there are production vehicles with adapters,
> just like there are production vehicles with a lot of things there
> shouldn't be.
>
> The small block Chevy is not the right engine for any Jeep product,
> except the Grand Wagoneer maybe. The four liter late six is a much
> better engine than it is given credit for.
>
> The stock EFI air system and injectors can be operated from an
> aftermarket ECU. Several good ones exist, but I'd look at Clifford's if
> you are not a code-head.
prototypes.
Seems to me Chevy is the number one choice:
http://search.ebay.com/CJ-chevy_W0QQ...ageNameZRC0024
Especially if you like to be King of the Hill, like me:
http://www.----------.com/pismo.htm
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:--------------------
Bret Ludwig wrote:
>
> Back in the day when they would do custom work my company had them do
> several things. They were repeatedly unable to read blueprints, we
> brought the stuff in-house, and then they went to a production catalog
> house operation. Yes there are production vehicles with adapters,
> just like there are production vehicles with a lot of things there
> shouldn't be.
>
> The small block Chevy is not the right engine for any Jeep product,
> except the Grand Wagoneer maybe. The four liter late six is a much
> better engine than it is given credit for.
>
> The stock EFI air system and injectors can be operated from an
> aftermarket ECU. Several good ones exist, but I'd look at Clifford's if
> you are not a code-head.
08-24-2005, 08:10 PM
#26
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Re: Buncha questions about CJ engine swap.
Yes, a lot of people put Chevies in anything that rolls. If you wanted
a Chevy, shoulda bought a Blazer.
Manufacturer loyalty aside, a hot Chevy in a CJ will get you either
killed or really stuck good. Plus, when gas goes to $4-$5 a gallon
here like in the rest of the world, which the sooner it does the
happier I will be, you will want something more economical. Cheap gas
is like cheap heroin, Americans just refuse to see it...until the oil
really is all gone and we have a mass workd starvation.
a Chevy, shoulda bought a Blazer.
Manufacturer loyalty aside, a hot Chevy in a CJ will get you either
killed or really stuck good. Plus, when gas goes to $4-$5 a gallon
here like in the rest of the world, which the sooner it does the
happier I will be, you will want something more economical. Cheap gas
is like cheap heroin, Americans just refuse to see it...until the oil
really is all gone and we have a mass workd starvation.
08-24-2005, 08:10 PM
#27
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Re: Buncha questions about CJ engine swap.
Yes, a lot of people put Chevies in anything that rolls. If you wanted
a Chevy, shoulda bought a Blazer.
Manufacturer loyalty aside, a hot Chevy in a CJ will get you either
killed or really stuck good. Plus, when gas goes to $4-$5 a gallon
here like in the rest of the world, which the sooner it does the
happier I will be, you will want something more economical. Cheap gas
is like cheap heroin, Americans just refuse to see it...until the oil
really is all gone and we have a mass workd starvation.
a Chevy, shoulda bought a Blazer.
Manufacturer loyalty aside, a hot Chevy in a CJ will get you either
killed or really stuck good. Plus, when gas goes to $4-$5 a gallon
here like in the rest of the world, which the sooner it does the
happier I will be, you will want something more economical. Cheap gas
is like cheap heroin, Americans just refuse to see it...until the oil
really is all gone and we have a mass workd starvation.
08-24-2005, 08:10 PM
#28
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Re: Buncha questions about CJ engine swap.
Yes, a lot of people put Chevies in anything that rolls. If you wanted
a Chevy, shoulda bought a Blazer.
Manufacturer loyalty aside, a hot Chevy in a CJ will get you either
killed or really stuck good. Plus, when gas goes to $4-$5 a gallon
here like in the rest of the world, which the sooner it does the
happier I will be, you will want something more economical. Cheap gas
is like cheap heroin, Americans just refuse to see it...until the oil
really is all gone and we have a mass workd starvation.
a Chevy, shoulda bought a Blazer.
Manufacturer loyalty aside, a hot Chevy in a CJ will get you either
killed or really stuck good. Plus, when gas goes to $4-$5 a gallon
here like in the rest of the world, which the sooner it does the
happier I will be, you will want something more economical. Cheap gas
is like cheap heroin, Americans just refuse to see it...until the oil
really is all gone and we have a mass workd starvation.
08-24-2005, 08:10 PM
#29
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Posts: n/a
Re: Buncha questions about CJ engine swap.
Yes, a lot of people put Chevies in anything that rolls. If you wanted
a Chevy, shoulda bought a Blazer.
Manufacturer loyalty aside, a hot Chevy in a CJ will get you either
killed or really stuck good. Plus, when gas goes to $4-$5 a gallon
here like in the rest of the world, which the sooner it does the
happier I will be, you will want something more economical. Cheap gas
is like cheap heroin, Americans just refuse to see it...until the oil
really is all gone and we have a mass workd starvation.
a Chevy, shoulda bought a Blazer.
Manufacturer loyalty aside, a hot Chevy in a CJ will get you either
killed or really stuck good. Plus, when gas goes to $4-$5 a gallon
here like in the rest of the world, which the sooner it does the
happier I will be, you will want something more economical. Cheap gas
is like cheap heroin, Americans just refuse to see it...until the oil
really is all gone and we have a mass workd starvation.
08-24-2005, 08:35 PM
#30
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Re: Buncha questions about CJ engine swap.
The Blazer, like my Bronco will never be on top of the hill with
me, like the TJ they're too heavy.
Gasoline at four or five bucks a gallon is the cheapest expense of
operation of a vehicle. My Bronco at ten miles to the gallon with or
without the Jeep on the back, is probable the cheapest life insurance I
may buy.
You want cheaper oil tell your bleeding heart liberals you want
your electricity generated by nuclear power, and let the oil companies
build new refineries to let taxes, supply and demand find it's level.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Bret Ludwig wrote:
>
> Yes, a lot of people put Chevies in anything that rolls. If you wanted
> a Chevy, shoulda bought a Blazer.
>
> Manufacturer loyalty aside, a hot Chevy in a CJ will get you either
> killed or really stuck good. Plus, when gas goes to $4-$5 a gallon
> here like in the rest of the world, which the sooner it does the
> happier I will be, you will want something more economical. Cheap gas
> is like cheap heroin, Americans just refuse to see it...until the oil
> really is all gone and we have a mass workd starvation.
me, like the TJ they're too heavy.
Gasoline at four or five bucks a gallon is the cheapest expense of
operation of a vehicle. My Bronco at ten miles to the gallon with or
without the Jeep on the back, is probable the cheapest life insurance I
may buy.
You want cheaper oil tell your bleeding heart liberals you want
your electricity generated by nuclear power, and let the oil companies
build new refineries to let taxes, supply and demand find it's level.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Bret Ludwig wrote:
>
> Yes, a lot of people put Chevies in anything that rolls. If you wanted
> a Chevy, shoulda bought a Blazer.
>
> Manufacturer loyalty aside, a hot Chevy in a CJ will get you either
> killed or really stuck good. Plus, when gas goes to $4-$5 a gallon
> here like in the rest of the world, which the sooner it does the
> happier I will be, you will want something more economical. Cheap gas
> is like cheap heroin, Americans just refuse to see it...until the oil
> really is all gone and we have a mass workd starvation.