bouncy front end
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Re: bouncy front end
And again you fail to answer my question which was if you have
forgotten, is: Why do you think they are on all new straight axles if
you feel they are not needed?
And you being senile I will again quote my suggestion to this
thread: "A new steering stabilizer shock absorber will stop the shimmy:
http://www.bds-suspension.com/steeringstabilizer.html " Now again, what
is it you believe to be wrong with that statement?
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
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Jerry Bransford wrote:
>
> No one, not me, no one has said or recommended that it SHOULD be
> removed, only that it COULD be removed without problem if everything
> else in the front-end was working and set up as the factory designed it.
>
> Since you hadn't caught on to that nuance yet when this thread first
> started, many of us only tried to educate you that replacing the
> steering dampener would not help fix the bouncy front end as you
> suggested it would. Newbies and clueless old-farts are always
> suggesting replacing the steering dampener to fix problems that are
> really a result of some other problem that should actually be taken care
> of instead. The steering dampener, as it appears you have finally
> learned by now, only MASKS other problems... which if they are not
> there, the dampener does nothing but sit there. It won't fix a "bouncy"
> front-end problem though. Though it's not recommended to drive without
> one, you COULD drive without one without feeling anything different if
> everything else was working properly. The steering dampener is a
> BAND-AID fix that masks other problems... which you are apparently now
> trying to act like you have known all along. I deal with steering
> dampeners on a nearly daily basis and know precisely what they do and
> more importantly, what they CANNOT do. What they cannot and don't do is
> what you are apparently weak on.
forgotten, is: Why do you think they are on all new straight axles if
you feel they are not needed?
And you being senile I will again quote my suggestion to this
thread: "A new steering stabilizer shock absorber will stop the shimmy:
http://www.bds-suspension.com/steeringstabilizer.html " Now again, what
is it you believe to be wrong with that statement?
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Jerry Bransford wrote:
>
> No one, not me, no one has said or recommended that it SHOULD be
> removed, only that it COULD be removed without problem if everything
> else in the front-end was working and set up as the factory designed it.
>
> Since you hadn't caught on to that nuance yet when this thread first
> started, many of us only tried to educate you that replacing the
> steering dampener would not help fix the bouncy front end as you
> suggested it would. Newbies and clueless old-farts are always
> suggesting replacing the steering dampener to fix problems that are
> really a result of some other problem that should actually be taken care
> of instead. The steering dampener, as it appears you have finally
> learned by now, only MASKS other problems... which if they are not
> there, the dampener does nothing but sit there. It won't fix a "bouncy"
> front-end problem though. Though it's not recommended to drive without
> one, you COULD drive without one without feeling anything different if
> everything else was working properly. The steering dampener is a
> BAND-AID fix that masks other problems... which you are apparently now
> trying to act like you have known all along. I deal with steering
> dampeners on a nearly daily basis and know precisely what they do and
> more importantly, what they CANNOT do. What they cannot and don't do is
> what you are apparently weak on.
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Re: bouncy front end
'89 was made by Daimler and not a Real Jeep by definition.
Take a picture of a picture, Geez, how do you think I make them?
So I have proved you are a liar again!
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Jerry Bransford wrote:
>
> Bill, you are such a juvenile on such demands that I'm not bothering to
> go through any personal effort to satisfy your demand. Anyone else I
> wouldn't have any trouble doing that.. I'm not bothering to go through
> old scrap books to scan in a photo of our old '89 I've mentioned here
> several times over the years that I may not even have. I certainly have
> no digital photos since digital cameras weren't out then. My role in
> life is not to convince you of anything, nor is it to go to any extra
> effort to convince you I've owned more Jeeps than my '97 TJ.
Take a picture of a picture, Geez, how do you think I make them?
So I have proved you are a liar again!
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Jerry Bransford wrote:
>
> Bill, you are such a juvenile on such demands that I'm not bothering to
> go through any personal effort to satisfy your demand. Anyone else I
> wouldn't have any trouble doing that.. I'm not bothering to go through
> old scrap books to scan in a photo of our old '89 I've mentioned here
> several times over the years that I may not even have. I certainly have
> no digital photos since digital cameras weren't out then. My role in
> life is not to convince you of anything, nor is it to go to any extra
> effort to convince you I've owned more Jeeps than my '97 TJ.
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Re: bouncy front end
'89 was made by Daimler and not a Real Jeep by definition.
Take a picture of a picture, Geez, how do you think I make them?
So I have proved you are a liar again!
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Jerry Bransford wrote:
>
> Bill, you are such a juvenile on such demands that I'm not bothering to
> go through any personal effort to satisfy your demand. Anyone else I
> wouldn't have any trouble doing that.. I'm not bothering to go through
> old scrap books to scan in a photo of our old '89 I've mentioned here
> several times over the years that I may not even have. I certainly have
> no digital photos since digital cameras weren't out then. My role in
> life is not to convince you of anything, nor is it to go to any extra
> effort to convince you I've owned more Jeeps than my '97 TJ.
Take a picture of a picture, Geez, how do you think I make them?
So I have proved you are a liar again!
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Jerry Bransford wrote:
>
> Bill, you are such a juvenile on such demands that I'm not bothering to
> go through any personal effort to satisfy your demand. Anyone else I
> wouldn't have any trouble doing that.. I'm not bothering to go through
> old scrap books to scan in a photo of our old '89 I've mentioned here
> several times over the years that I may not even have. I certainly have
> no digital photos since digital cameras weren't out then. My role in
> life is not to convince you of anything, nor is it to go to any extra
> effort to convince you I've owned more Jeeps than my '97 TJ.
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Re: bouncy front end
'89 was made by Daimler and not a Real Jeep by definition.
Take a picture of a picture, Geez, how do you think I make them?
So I have proved you are a liar again!
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Jerry Bransford wrote:
>
> Bill, you are such a juvenile on such demands that I'm not bothering to
> go through any personal effort to satisfy your demand. Anyone else I
> wouldn't have any trouble doing that.. I'm not bothering to go through
> old scrap books to scan in a photo of our old '89 I've mentioned here
> several times over the years that I may not even have. I certainly have
> no digital photos since digital cameras weren't out then. My role in
> life is not to convince you of anything, nor is it to go to any extra
> effort to convince you I've owned more Jeeps than my '97 TJ.
Take a picture of a picture, Geez, how do you think I make them?
So I have proved you are a liar again!
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Jerry Bransford wrote:
>
> Bill, you are such a juvenile on such demands that I'm not bothering to
> go through any personal effort to satisfy your demand. Anyone else I
> wouldn't have any trouble doing that.. I'm not bothering to go through
> old scrap books to scan in a photo of our old '89 I've mentioned here
> several times over the years that I may not even have. I certainly have
> no digital photos since digital cameras weren't out then. My role in
> life is not to convince you of anything, nor is it to go to any extra
> effort to convince you I've owned more Jeeps than my '97 TJ.
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Re: bouncy front end
'89 was made by Daimler and not a Real Jeep by definition.
Take a picture of a picture, Geez, how do you think I make them?
So I have proved you are a liar again!
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Jerry Bransford wrote:
>
> Bill, you are such a juvenile on such demands that I'm not bothering to
> go through any personal effort to satisfy your demand. Anyone else I
> wouldn't have any trouble doing that.. I'm not bothering to go through
> old scrap books to scan in a photo of our old '89 I've mentioned here
> several times over the years that I may not even have. I certainly have
> no digital photos since digital cameras weren't out then. My role in
> life is not to convince you of anything, nor is it to go to any extra
> effort to convince you I've owned more Jeeps than my '97 TJ.
Take a picture of a picture, Geez, how do you think I make them?
So I have proved you are a liar again!
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Jerry Bransford wrote:
>
> Bill, you are such a juvenile on such demands that I'm not bothering to
> go through any personal effort to satisfy your demand. Anyone else I
> wouldn't have any trouble doing that.. I'm not bothering to go through
> old scrap books to scan in a photo of our old '89 I've mentioned here
> several times over the years that I may not even have. I certainly have
> no digital photos since digital cameras weren't out then. My role in
> life is not to convince you of anything, nor is it to go to any extra
> effort to convince you I've owned more Jeeps than my '97 TJ.
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Re: bouncy front end
Since you have never proved me or anyone else here to be a liar, you
can't prove it again. Not that I care since I've never agreed with your
myopic view of what a "real" Jeep is since your Jeep came WAY after the
"real" Jeeps were introduced.. Bill, I think you verge on paranoia and
obsessiveness.
L.W.(ßill) ------ III wrote:
> '89 was made by Daimler and not a Real Jeep by definition.
> Take a picture of a picture, Geez, how do you think I make them?
> So I have proved you are a liar again!
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Jerry Bransford wrote:
>
>>Bill, you are such a juvenile on such demands that I'm not bothering to
>>go through any personal effort to satisfy your demand. Anyone else I
>>wouldn't have any trouble doing that.. I'm not bothering to go through
>>old scrap books to scan in a photo of our old '89 I've mentioned here
>>several times over the years that I may not even have. I certainly have
>>no digital photos since digital cameras weren't out then. My role in
>>life is not to convince you of anything, nor is it to go to any extra
>>effort to convince you I've owned more Jeeps than my '97 TJ.
--
Jerry Bransford
PP-ASEL N6TAY
See the Geezer Jeep at
http://members.***.net/jerrypb/
can't prove it again. Not that I care since I've never agreed with your
myopic view of what a "real" Jeep is since your Jeep came WAY after the
"real" Jeeps were introduced.. Bill, I think you verge on paranoia and
obsessiveness.
L.W.(ßill) ------ III wrote:
> '89 was made by Daimler and not a Real Jeep by definition.
> Take a picture of a picture, Geez, how do you think I make them?
> So I have proved you are a liar again!
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Jerry Bransford wrote:
>
>>Bill, you are such a juvenile on such demands that I'm not bothering to
>>go through any personal effort to satisfy your demand. Anyone else I
>>wouldn't have any trouble doing that.. I'm not bothering to go through
>>old scrap books to scan in a photo of our old '89 I've mentioned here
>>several times over the years that I may not even have. I certainly have
>>no digital photos since digital cameras weren't out then. My role in
>>life is not to convince you of anything, nor is it to go to any extra
>>effort to convince you I've owned more Jeeps than my '97 TJ.
--
Jerry Bransford
PP-ASEL N6TAY
See the Geezer Jeep at
http://members.***.net/jerrypb/
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Re: bouncy front end
Since you have never proved me or anyone else here to be a liar, you
can't prove it again. Not that I care since I've never agreed with your
myopic view of what a "real" Jeep is since your Jeep came WAY after the
"real" Jeeps were introduced.. Bill, I think you verge on paranoia and
obsessiveness.
L.W.(ßill) ------ III wrote:
> '89 was made by Daimler and not a Real Jeep by definition.
> Take a picture of a picture, Geez, how do you think I make them?
> So I have proved you are a liar again!
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Jerry Bransford wrote:
>
>>Bill, you are such a juvenile on such demands that I'm not bothering to
>>go through any personal effort to satisfy your demand. Anyone else I
>>wouldn't have any trouble doing that.. I'm not bothering to go through
>>old scrap books to scan in a photo of our old '89 I've mentioned here
>>several times over the years that I may not even have. I certainly have
>>no digital photos since digital cameras weren't out then. My role in
>>life is not to convince you of anything, nor is it to go to any extra
>>effort to convince you I've owned more Jeeps than my '97 TJ.
--
Jerry Bransford
PP-ASEL N6TAY
See the Geezer Jeep at
http://members.***.net/jerrypb/
can't prove it again. Not that I care since I've never agreed with your
myopic view of what a "real" Jeep is since your Jeep came WAY after the
"real" Jeeps were introduced.. Bill, I think you verge on paranoia and
obsessiveness.
L.W.(ßill) ------ III wrote:
> '89 was made by Daimler and not a Real Jeep by definition.
> Take a picture of a picture, Geez, how do you think I make them?
> So I have proved you are a liar again!
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Jerry Bransford wrote:
>
>>Bill, you are such a juvenile on such demands that I'm not bothering to
>>go through any personal effort to satisfy your demand. Anyone else I
>>wouldn't have any trouble doing that.. I'm not bothering to go through
>>old scrap books to scan in a photo of our old '89 I've mentioned here
>>several times over the years that I may not even have. I certainly have
>>no digital photos since digital cameras weren't out then. My role in
>>life is not to convince you of anything, nor is it to go to any extra
>>effort to convince you I've owned more Jeeps than my '97 TJ.
--
Jerry Bransford
PP-ASEL N6TAY
See the Geezer Jeep at
http://members.***.net/jerrypb/
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Re: bouncy front end
Since you have never proved me or anyone else here to be a liar, you
can't prove it again. Not that I care since I've never agreed with your
myopic view of what a "real" Jeep is since your Jeep came WAY after the
"real" Jeeps were introduced.. Bill, I think you verge on paranoia and
obsessiveness.
L.W.(ßill) ------ III wrote:
> '89 was made by Daimler and not a Real Jeep by definition.
> Take a picture of a picture, Geez, how do you think I make them?
> So I have proved you are a liar again!
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Jerry Bransford wrote:
>
>>Bill, you are such a juvenile on such demands that I'm not bothering to
>>go through any personal effort to satisfy your demand. Anyone else I
>>wouldn't have any trouble doing that.. I'm not bothering to go through
>>old scrap books to scan in a photo of our old '89 I've mentioned here
>>several times over the years that I may not even have. I certainly have
>>no digital photos since digital cameras weren't out then. My role in
>>life is not to convince you of anything, nor is it to go to any extra
>>effort to convince you I've owned more Jeeps than my '97 TJ.
--
Jerry Bransford
PP-ASEL N6TAY
See the Geezer Jeep at
http://members.***.net/jerrypb/
can't prove it again. Not that I care since I've never agreed with your
myopic view of what a "real" Jeep is since your Jeep came WAY after the
"real" Jeeps were introduced.. Bill, I think you verge on paranoia and
obsessiveness.
L.W.(ßill) ------ III wrote:
> '89 was made by Daimler and not a Real Jeep by definition.
> Take a picture of a picture, Geez, how do you think I make them?
> So I have proved you are a liar again!
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Jerry Bransford wrote:
>
>>Bill, you are such a juvenile on such demands that I'm not bothering to
>>go through any personal effort to satisfy your demand. Anyone else I
>>wouldn't have any trouble doing that.. I'm not bothering to go through
>>old scrap books to scan in a photo of our old '89 I've mentioned here
>>several times over the years that I may not even have. I certainly have
>>no digital photos since digital cameras weren't out then. My role in
>>life is not to convince you of anything, nor is it to go to any extra
>>effort to convince you I've owned more Jeeps than my '97 TJ.
--
Jerry Bransford
PP-ASEL N6TAY
See the Geezer Jeep at
http://members.***.net/jerrypb/
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Re: bouncy front end
Since you have never proved me or anyone else here to be a liar, you
can't prove it again. Not that I care since I've never agreed with your
myopic view of what a "real" Jeep is since your Jeep came WAY after the
"real" Jeeps were introduced.. Bill, I think you verge on paranoia and
obsessiveness.
L.W.(ßill) ------ III wrote:
> '89 was made by Daimler and not a Real Jeep by definition.
> Take a picture of a picture, Geez, how do you think I make them?
> So I have proved you are a liar again!
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Jerry Bransford wrote:
>
>>Bill, you are such a juvenile on such demands that I'm not bothering to
>>go through any personal effort to satisfy your demand. Anyone else I
>>wouldn't have any trouble doing that.. I'm not bothering to go through
>>old scrap books to scan in a photo of our old '89 I've mentioned here
>>several times over the years that I may not even have. I certainly have
>>no digital photos since digital cameras weren't out then. My role in
>>life is not to convince you of anything, nor is it to go to any extra
>>effort to convince you I've owned more Jeeps than my '97 TJ.
--
Jerry Bransford
PP-ASEL N6TAY
See the Geezer Jeep at
http://members.***.net/jerrypb/
can't prove it again. Not that I care since I've never agreed with your
myopic view of what a "real" Jeep is since your Jeep came WAY after the
"real" Jeeps were introduced.. Bill, I think you verge on paranoia and
obsessiveness.
L.W.(ßill) ------ III wrote:
> '89 was made by Daimler and not a Real Jeep by definition.
> Take a picture of a picture, Geez, how do you think I make them?
> So I have proved you are a liar again!
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Jerry Bransford wrote:
>
>>Bill, you are such a juvenile on such demands that I'm not bothering to
>>go through any personal effort to satisfy your demand. Anyone else I
>>wouldn't have any trouble doing that.. I'm not bothering to go through
>>old scrap books to scan in a photo of our old '89 I've mentioned here
>>several times over the years that I may not even have. I certainly have
>>no digital photos since digital cameras weren't out then. My role in
>>life is not to convince you of anything, nor is it to go to any extra
>>effort to convince you I've owned more Jeeps than my '97 TJ.
--
Jerry Bransford
PP-ASEL N6TAY
See the Geezer Jeep at
http://members.***.net/jerrypb/
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Re: bouncy front end
So are you going to answer my question, or just blow them off as
you don't have no idea how your front end geometry works?
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
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Jerry Bransford wrote:
>
> Since you have never proved me or anyone else here to be a liar, you
> can't prove it again. Not that I care since I've never agreed with your
> myopic view of what a "real" Jeep is since your Jeep came WAY after the
> "real" Jeeps were introduced.. Bill, I think you verge on paranoia and
> obsessiveness.
you don't have no idea how your front end geometry works?
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Jerry Bransford wrote:
>
> Since you have never proved me or anyone else here to be a liar, you
> can't prove it again. Not that I care since I've never agreed with your
> myopic view of what a "real" Jeep is since your Jeep came WAY after the
> "real" Jeeps were introduced.. Bill, I think you verge on paranoia and
> obsessiveness.
