The big chill...
11-21-2003, 01:16 AM
#41
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Re: The big chill...
On Thu, 20 Nov 2003 20:54:31 UTC Lon Stowell
<LonDot.Stowell@ComcastPeriod.Net> wrote:
> Approximately 11/20/03 10:56, sm3gurpal uttered for posterity:
>
> > I am moving from down south the frozen wasteland otherwise known as
> > the northeastern US. I drive a CJ with automatic KC locker up front
> > and manually controlled air locker in the back. I have heard that
> > lockers aren't the best for driving on snow and ice but it's too late
> > to change it now. Just wondering, what do I need to know and be on
> > the look out for when driving in snow and ice with this vehicle?
>
> Don't lock it. The auto locker should only kick in if you are
> experiencing poor traction... and being in front should do less
> to throw you off path than if in the rear.
>
> If you are driving at city speeds or so is when a limited slip,
> locker, etc. can throw you in the nearest ditch... BUT this only
> happens if you do something stupid like stomping on the gas.
>
> In heavy snow with ice, the locker can keep you from walking for
> help.
That front locker could be a killer. The first 4x4 I owned had a very
good Posi-traction on both ends and the one in the front came out
immediately after the first snow. It wasn't the go part or the turn
part that got me, it was letting off the gas and suddenly becoming a
4-pt hockey puck. BTW, that's one other SLOW DOWN point on snow/ice:
take your foot OFF the gas just as deliberately as you put it on -
nothing quick is a good rule.
--
Will Honea <whonea@codenet.net>
<LonDot.Stowell@ComcastPeriod.Net> wrote:
> Approximately 11/20/03 10:56, sm3gurpal uttered for posterity:
>
> > I am moving from down south the frozen wasteland otherwise known as
> > the northeastern US. I drive a CJ with automatic KC locker up front
> > and manually controlled air locker in the back. I have heard that
> > lockers aren't the best for driving on snow and ice but it's too late
> > to change it now. Just wondering, what do I need to know and be on
> > the look out for when driving in snow and ice with this vehicle?
>
> Don't lock it. The auto locker should only kick in if you are
> experiencing poor traction... and being in front should do less
> to throw you off path than if in the rear.
>
> If you are driving at city speeds or so is when a limited slip,
> locker, etc. can throw you in the nearest ditch... BUT this only
> happens if you do something stupid like stomping on the gas.
>
> In heavy snow with ice, the locker can keep you from walking for
> help.
That front locker could be a killer. The first 4x4 I owned had a very
good Posi-traction on both ends and the one in the front came out
immediately after the first snow. It wasn't the go part or the turn
part that got me, it was letting off the gas and suddenly becoming a
4-pt hockey puck. BTW, that's one other SLOW DOWN point on snow/ice:
take your foot OFF the gas just as deliberately as you put it on -
nothing quick is a good rule.
--
Will Honea <whonea@codenet.net>
11-21-2003, 01:16 AM
#42
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Re: The big chill...
On Thu, 20 Nov 2003 20:54:31 UTC Lon Stowell
<LonDot.Stowell@ComcastPeriod.Net> wrote:
> Approximately 11/20/03 10:56, sm3gurpal uttered for posterity:
>
> > I am moving from down south the frozen wasteland otherwise known as
> > the northeastern US. I drive a CJ with automatic KC locker up front
> > and manually controlled air locker in the back. I have heard that
> > lockers aren't the best for driving on snow and ice but it's too late
> > to change it now. Just wondering, what do I need to know and be on
> > the look out for when driving in snow and ice with this vehicle?
>
> Don't lock it. The auto locker should only kick in if you are
> experiencing poor traction... and being in front should do less
> to throw you off path than if in the rear.
>
> If you are driving at city speeds or so is when a limited slip,
> locker, etc. can throw you in the nearest ditch... BUT this only
> happens if you do something stupid like stomping on the gas.
>
> In heavy snow with ice, the locker can keep you from walking for
> help.
That front locker could be a killer. The first 4x4 I owned had a very
good Posi-traction on both ends and the one in the front came out
immediately after the first snow. It wasn't the go part or the turn
part that got me, it was letting off the gas and suddenly becoming a
4-pt hockey puck. BTW, that's one other SLOW DOWN point on snow/ice:
take your foot OFF the gas just as deliberately as you put it on -
nothing quick is a good rule.
--
Will Honea <whonea@codenet.net>
<LonDot.Stowell@ComcastPeriod.Net> wrote:
> Approximately 11/20/03 10:56, sm3gurpal uttered for posterity:
>
> > I am moving from down south the frozen wasteland otherwise known as
> > the northeastern US. I drive a CJ with automatic KC locker up front
> > and manually controlled air locker in the back. I have heard that
> > lockers aren't the best for driving on snow and ice but it's too late
> > to change it now. Just wondering, what do I need to know and be on
> > the look out for when driving in snow and ice with this vehicle?
>
> Don't lock it. The auto locker should only kick in if you are
> experiencing poor traction... and being in front should do less
> to throw you off path than if in the rear.
>
> If you are driving at city speeds or so is when a limited slip,
> locker, etc. can throw you in the nearest ditch... BUT this only
> happens if you do something stupid like stomping on the gas.
>
> In heavy snow with ice, the locker can keep you from walking for
> help.
That front locker could be a killer. The first 4x4 I owned had a very
good Posi-traction on both ends and the one in the front came out
immediately after the first snow. It wasn't the go part or the turn
part that got me, it was letting off the gas and suddenly becoming a
4-pt hockey puck. BTW, that's one other SLOW DOWN point on snow/ice:
take your foot OFF the gas just as deliberately as you put it on -
nothing quick is a good rule.
--
Will Honea <whonea@codenet.net>
11-21-2003, 01:16 AM
#43
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Re: The big chill...
On Thu, 20 Nov 2003 20:54:31 UTC Lon Stowell
<LonDot.Stowell@ComcastPeriod.Net> wrote:
> Approximately 11/20/03 10:56, sm3gurpal uttered for posterity:
>
> > I am moving from down south the frozen wasteland otherwise known as
> > the northeastern US. I drive a CJ with automatic KC locker up front
> > and manually controlled air locker in the back. I have heard that
> > lockers aren't the best for driving on snow and ice but it's too late
> > to change it now. Just wondering, what do I need to know and be on
> > the look out for when driving in snow and ice with this vehicle?
>
> Don't lock it. The auto locker should only kick in if you are
> experiencing poor traction... and being in front should do less
> to throw you off path than if in the rear.
>
> If you are driving at city speeds or so is when a limited slip,
> locker, etc. can throw you in the nearest ditch... BUT this only
> happens if you do something stupid like stomping on the gas.
>
> In heavy snow with ice, the locker can keep you from walking for
> help.
That front locker could be a killer. The first 4x4 I owned had a very
good Posi-traction on both ends and the one in the front came out
immediately after the first snow. It wasn't the go part or the turn
part that got me, it was letting off the gas and suddenly becoming a
4-pt hockey puck. BTW, that's one other SLOW DOWN point on snow/ice:
take your foot OFF the gas just as deliberately as you put it on -
nothing quick is a good rule.
--
Will Honea <whonea@codenet.net>
<LonDot.Stowell@ComcastPeriod.Net> wrote:
> Approximately 11/20/03 10:56, sm3gurpal uttered for posterity:
>
> > I am moving from down south the frozen wasteland otherwise known as
> > the northeastern US. I drive a CJ with automatic KC locker up front
> > and manually controlled air locker in the back. I have heard that
> > lockers aren't the best for driving on snow and ice but it's too late
> > to change it now. Just wondering, what do I need to know and be on
> > the look out for when driving in snow and ice with this vehicle?
>
> Don't lock it. The auto locker should only kick in if you are
> experiencing poor traction... and being in front should do less
> to throw you off path than if in the rear.
>
> If you are driving at city speeds or so is when a limited slip,
> locker, etc. can throw you in the nearest ditch... BUT this only
> happens if you do something stupid like stomping on the gas.
>
> In heavy snow with ice, the locker can keep you from walking for
> help.
That front locker could be a killer. The first 4x4 I owned had a very
good Posi-traction on both ends and the one in the front came out
immediately after the first snow. It wasn't the go part or the turn
part that got me, it was letting off the gas and suddenly becoming a
4-pt hockey puck. BTW, that's one other SLOW DOWN point on snow/ice:
take your foot OFF the gas just as deliberately as you put it on -
nothing quick is a good rule.
--
Will Honea <whonea@codenet.net>
11-21-2003, 08:34 AM
#44
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Re: The big chill...
> Just a word of caution about using the parking lot: do some scouting and
make sure you don't pick one with those damned blocks in the parking slots.
Boy, do they every mess up a good broad slide!<
When I was a kid growing up in NW Indiana we had snow and cold like you
can't believe. My mom had a rat '54 Chevy that I drove and after work one
night I took it into a Jr High parking lot and did donuts with a couple of
buddies in the car. One trick I did was to go headlong into big piles of
snow, which one guy thought was the most fun he's ever had. A few nights
later he gets the keys to his dad's new Buick and tries the same stunt, only
drives headlong into a pile of snow covered cinderblocks! (Dad was not
amused.)
make sure you don't pick one with those damned blocks in the parking slots.
Boy, do they every mess up a good broad slide!<
When I was a kid growing up in NW Indiana we had snow and cold like you
can't believe. My mom had a rat '54 Chevy that I drove and after work one
night I took it into a Jr High parking lot and did donuts with a couple of
buddies in the car. One trick I did was to go headlong into big piles of
snow, which one guy thought was the most fun he's ever had. A few nights
later he gets the keys to his dad's new Buick and tries the same stunt, only
drives headlong into a pile of snow covered cinderblocks! (Dad was not
amused.)
11-21-2003, 08:34 AM
#45
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Re: The big chill...
> Just a word of caution about using the parking lot: do some scouting and
make sure you don't pick one with those damned blocks in the parking slots.
Boy, do they every mess up a good broad slide!<
When I was a kid growing up in NW Indiana we had snow and cold like you
can't believe. My mom had a rat '54 Chevy that I drove and after work one
night I took it into a Jr High parking lot and did donuts with a couple of
buddies in the car. One trick I did was to go headlong into big piles of
snow, which one guy thought was the most fun he's ever had. A few nights
later he gets the keys to his dad's new Buick and tries the same stunt, only
drives headlong into a pile of snow covered cinderblocks! (Dad was not
amused.)
make sure you don't pick one with those damned blocks in the parking slots.
Boy, do they every mess up a good broad slide!<
When I was a kid growing up in NW Indiana we had snow and cold like you
can't believe. My mom had a rat '54 Chevy that I drove and after work one
night I took it into a Jr High parking lot and did donuts with a couple of
buddies in the car. One trick I did was to go headlong into big piles of
snow, which one guy thought was the most fun he's ever had. A few nights
later he gets the keys to his dad's new Buick and tries the same stunt, only
drives headlong into a pile of snow covered cinderblocks! (Dad was not
amused.)
11-21-2003, 08:34 AM
#46
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Re: The big chill...
> Just a word of caution about using the parking lot: do some scouting and
make sure you don't pick one with those damned blocks in the parking slots.
Boy, do they every mess up a good broad slide!<
When I was a kid growing up in NW Indiana we had snow and cold like you
can't believe. My mom had a rat '54 Chevy that I drove and after work one
night I took it into a Jr High parking lot and did donuts with a couple of
buddies in the car. One trick I did was to go headlong into big piles of
snow, which one guy thought was the most fun he's ever had. A few nights
later he gets the keys to his dad's new Buick and tries the same stunt, only
drives headlong into a pile of snow covered cinderblocks! (Dad was not
amused.)
make sure you don't pick one with those damned blocks in the parking slots.
Boy, do they every mess up a good broad slide!<
When I was a kid growing up in NW Indiana we had snow and cold like you
can't believe. My mom had a rat '54 Chevy that I drove and after work one
night I took it into a Jr High parking lot and did donuts with a couple of
buddies in the car. One trick I did was to go headlong into big piles of
snow, which one guy thought was the most fun he's ever had. A few nights
later he gets the keys to his dad's new Buick and tries the same stunt, only
drives headlong into a pile of snow covered cinderblocks! (Dad was not
amused.)
11-21-2003, 08:36 AM
#47
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Re: The big chill...
> That front locker could be a killer. The first 4x4 I owned had a very
good Posi-traction on both ends and the one in the front came out
immediately after the first snow. It wasn't the go part or the turn part
that got me, it was letting off the gas and suddenly becoming a 4-pt hockey
puck. BTW, that's one other SLOW DOWN point on snow/ice: take your foot OFF
the gas just as deliberately as you put it on - nothing quick is a good
rule.>
Onme other thing, CJs and the northeast aren't a good combination where rust
is concerened. I'm not sure what to tell you to do, as any rustproofing I've
ssen done on them really never works out very well. Might be time to make it
a summer only vehicle.
> --
> Will Honea <whonea@codenet.net>
good Posi-traction on both ends and the one in the front came out
immediately after the first snow. It wasn't the go part or the turn part
that got me, it was letting off the gas and suddenly becoming a 4-pt hockey
puck. BTW, that's one other SLOW DOWN point on snow/ice: take your foot OFF
the gas just as deliberately as you put it on - nothing quick is a good
rule.>
Onme other thing, CJs and the northeast aren't a good combination where rust
is concerened. I'm not sure what to tell you to do, as any rustproofing I've
ssen done on them really never works out very well. Might be time to make it
a summer only vehicle.
> --
> Will Honea <whonea@codenet.net>
11-21-2003, 08:36 AM
#48
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Re: The big chill...
> That front locker could be a killer. The first 4x4 I owned had a very
good Posi-traction on both ends and the one in the front came out
immediately after the first snow. It wasn't the go part or the turn part
that got me, it was letting off the gas and suddenly becoming a 4-pt hockey
puck. BTW, that's one other SLOW DOWN point on snow/ice: take your foot OFF
the gas just as deliberately as you put it on - nothing quick is a good
rule.>
Onme other thing, CJs and the northeast aren't a good combination where rust
is concerened. I'm not sure what to tell you to do, as any rustproofing I've
ssen done on them really never works out very well. Might be time to make it
a summer only vehicle.
> --
> Will Honea <whonea@codenet.net>
good Posi-traction on both ends and the one in the front came out
immediately after the first snow. It wasn't the go part or the turn part
that got me, it was letting off the gas and suddenly becoming a 4-pt hockey
puck. BTW, that's one other SLOW DOWN point on snow/ice: take your foot OFF
the gas just as deliberately as you put it on - nothing quick is a good
rule.>
Onme other thing, CJs and the northeast aren't a good combination where rust
is concerened. I'm not sure what to tell you to do, as any rustproofing I've
ssen done on them really never works out very well. Might be time to make it
a summer only vehicle.
> --
> Will Honea <whonea@codenet.net>
11-21-2003, 08:36 AM
#49
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Re: The big chill...
> That front locker could be a killer. The first 4x4 I owned had a very
good Posi-traction on both ends and the one in the front came out
immediately after the first snow. It wasn't the go part or the turn part
that got me, it was letting off the gas and suddenly becoming a 4-pt hockey
puck. BTW, that's one other SLOW DOWN point on snow/ice: take your foot OFF
the gas just as deliberately as you put it on - nothing quick is a good
rule.>
Onme other thing, CJs and the northeast aren't a good combination where rust
is concerened. I'm not sure what to tell you to do, as any rustproofing I've
ssen done on them really never works out very well. Might be time to make it
a summer only vehicle.
> --
> Will Honea <whonea@codenet.net>
good Posi-traction on both ends and the one in the front came out
immediately after the first snow. It wasn't the go part or the turn part
that got me, it was letting off the gas and suddenly becoming a 4-pt hockey
puck. BTW, that's one other SLOW DOWN point on snow/ice: take your foot OFF
the gas just as deliberately as you put it on - nothing quick is a good
rule.>
Onme other thing, CJs and the northeast aren't a good combination where rust
is concerened. I'm not sure what to tell you to do, as any rustproofing I've
ssen done on them really never works out very well. Might be time to make it
a summer only vehicle.
> --
> Will Honea <whonea@codenet.net>
11-21-2003, 09:13 AM
#50
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Re: The big chill...
"Jerry McG" <gmcgeorge.REMOVE@frontier.net> wrote in message
news:bpl4j502pqs@enews1.newsguy.com...
---snippy---
>
> Onme other thing, CJs and the northeast aren't a good combination
> where rust is concerened. I'm not sure what to tell you to do, as any
> rustproofing I've ssen done on them really never works out very well.
> Might be time to make it a summer only vehicle.
> > --
Nothing lasts forever though. You can have fun with it, or you can let it
sit in the garage looking pretty all winter. The choice is up to you.
Earle
news:bpl4j502pqs@enews1.newsguy.com...
---snippy---
>
> Onme other thing, CJs and the northeast aren't a good combination
> where rust is concerened. I'm not sure what to tell you to do, as any
> rustproofing I've ssen done on them really never works out very well.
> Might be time to make it a summer only vehicle.
> > --
Nothing lasts forever though. You can have fun with it, or you can let it
sit in the garage looking pretty all winter. The choice is up to you.
Earle
