Axle click on AMC 20
06-25-2007, 07:14 AM
#31
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Re: Re: Re: Axle click on AMC 20
On Sun, 24 Jun 2007 21:15:46 -0500, "Peter Stolz"
<pstolz@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>Thanks for the help! I'll check all that stuff and maybe I can put off the
>one piece for a while. I'm running in sleeper mode at stock height with
>only 31" BFG MT KM right now, but I figured with the power that's in front
>of the axle, the two piece design might be failing.
>Pete
>--
>'84 CJ7 with factory rebuilt 360, NV4500, Edelbrock carb & intake, headers,
>2.5" duals, homemade on-board air, etc...
>'04 Audi S4 that's bone stock
I like your driveline setup. What version of the NV4500 did you use
and which Tcase did you mate it with? Did you "cam" your 360? (I
assume AMC 360) You are definatly pressing the limits of your AMC 20 2
piece rear axle with your engine/tranny setup. THere was a time when
the AMC 401 was a real hot ticket in a Jeep but those engines are hard
to come by theses days. 360 is a good engine as I have a 28 year old
on in a old J20 truck that still runs well. I plan to restore truck
one day (I have owned it for 22 years) It is a in storage in the barn
right now and has not been on the road for a few years now since
exhaust system rusted out. One thing that was nice about my old J20 is
that it came from factory with altitude compensanting carb which you
do not see many of OEM. I can tell you it worked great because when I
had it out in rockies in mid 90's I had no idle or mixture problems
from sea level to over 10,000 feet.
-----------------
TheSnoMan.com
<pstolz@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>Thanks for the help! I'll check all that stuff and maybe I can put off the
>one piece for a while. I'm running in sleeper mode at stock height with
>only 31" BFG MT KM right now, but I figured with the power that's in front
>of the axle, the two piece design might be failing.
>Pete
>--
>'84 CJ7 with factory rebuilt 360, NV4500, Edelbrock carb & intake, headers,
>2.5" duals, homemade on-board air, etc...
>'04 Audi S4 that's bone stock
I like your driveline setup. What version of the NV4500 did you use
and which Tcase did you mate it with? Did you "cam" your 360? (I
assume AMC 360) You are definatly pressing the limits of your AMC 20 2
piece rear axle with your engine/tranny setup. THere was a time when
the AMC 401 was a real hot ticket in a Jeep but those engines are hard
to come by theses days. 360 is a good engine as I have a 28 year old
on in a old J20 truck that still runs well. I plan to restore truck
one day (I have owned it for 22 years) It is a in storage in the barn
right now and has not been on the road for a few years now since
exhaust system rusted out. One thing that was nice about my old J20 is
that it came from factory with altitude compensanting carb which you
do not see many of OEM. I can tell you it worked great because when I
had it out in rockies in mid 90's I had no idle or mixture problems
from sea level to over 10,000 feet.
-----------------
TheSnoMan.com
06-25-2007, 07:14 AM
#32
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Re: Re: Re: Axle click on AMC 20
On Sun, 24 Jun 2007 21:15:46 -0500, "Peter Stolz"
<pstolz@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>Thanks for the help! I'll check all that stuff and maybe I can put off the
>one piece for a while. I'm running in sleeper mode at stock height with
>only 31" BFG MT KM right now, but I figured with the power that's in front
>of the axle, the two piece design might be failing.
>Pete
>--
>'84 CJ7 with factory rebuilt 360, NV4500, Edelbrock carb & intake, headers,
>2.5" duals, homemade on-board air, etc...
>'04 Audi S4 that's bone stock
I like your driveline setup. What version of the NV4500 did you use
and which Tcase did you mate it with? Did you "cam" your 360? (I
assume AMC 360) You are definatly pressing the limits of your AMC 20 2
piece rear axle with your engine/tranny setup. THere was a time when
the AMC 401 was a real hot ticket in a Jeep but those engines are hard
to come by theses days. 360 is a good engine as I have a 28 year old
on in a old J20 truck that still runs well. I plan to restore truck
one day (I have owned it for 22 years) It is a in storage in the barn
right now and has not been on the road for a few years now since
exhaust system rusted out. One thing that was nice about my old J20 is
that it came from factory with altitude compensanting carb which you
do not see many of OEM. I can tell you it worked great because when I
had it out in rockies in mid 90's I had no idle or mixture problems
from sea level to over 10,000 feet.
-----------------
TheSnoMan.com
<pstolz@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>Thanks for the help! I'll check all that stuff and maybe I can put off the
>one piece for a while. I'm running in sleeper mode at stock height with
>only 31" BFG MT KM right now, but I figured with the power that's in front
>of the axle, the two piece design might be failing.
>Pete
>--
>'84 CJ7 with factory rebuilt 360, NV4500, Edelbrock carb & intake, headers,
>2.5" duals, homemade on-board air, etc...
>'04 Audi S4 that's bone stock
I like your driveline setup. What version of the NV4500 did you use
and which Tcase did you mate it with? Did you "cam" your 360? (I
assume AMC 360) You are definatly pressing the limits of your AMC 20 2
piece rear axle with your engine/tranny setup. THere was a time when
the AMC 401 was a real hot ticket in a Jeep but those engines are hard
to come by theses days. 360 is a good engine as I have a 28 year old
on in a old J20 truck that still runs well. I plan to restore truck
one day (I have owned it for 22 years) It is a in storage in the barn
right now and has not been on the road for a few years now since
exhaust system rusted out. One thing that was nice about my old J20 is
that it came from factory with altitude compensanting carb which you
do not see many of OEM. I can tell you it worked great because when I
had it out in rockies in mid 90's I had no idle or mixture problems
from sea level to over 10,000 feet.
-----------------
TheSnoMan.com
06-25-2007, 07:14 AM
#33
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Re: Re: Re: Axle click on AMC 20
On Sun, 24 Jun 2007 21:15:46 -0500, "Peter Stolz"
<pstolz@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>Thanks for the help! I'll check all that stuff and maybe I can put off the
>one piece for a while. I'm running in sleeper mode at stock height with
>only 31" BFG MT KM right now, but I figured with the power that's in front
>of the axle, the two piece design might be failing.
>Pete
>--
>'84 CJ7 with factory rebuilt 360, NV4500, Edelbrock carb & intake, headers,
>2.5" duals, homemade on-board air, etc...
>'04 Audi S4 that's bone stock
I like your driveline setup. What version of the NV4500 did you use
and which Tcase did you mate it with? Did you "cam" your 360? (I
assume AMC 360) You are definatly pressing the limits of your AMC 20 2
piece rear axle with your engine/tranny setup. THere was a time when
the AMC 401 was a real hot ticket in a Jeep but those engines are hard
to come by theses days. 360 is a good engine as I have a 28 year old
on in a old J20 truck that still runs well. I plan to restore truck
one day (I have owned it for 22 years) It is a in storage in the barn
right now and has not been on the road for a few years now since
exhaust system rusted out. One thing that was nice about my old J20 is
that it came from factory with altitude compensanting carb which you
do not see many of OEM. I can tell you it worked great because when I
had it out in rockies in mid 90's I had no idle or mixture problems
from sea level to over 10,000 feet.
-----------------
TheSnoMan.com
<pstolz@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>Thanks for the help! I'll check all that stuff and maybe I can put off the
>one piece for a while. I'm running in sleeper mode at stock height with
>only 31" BFG MT KM right now, but I figured with the power that's in front
>of the axle, the two piece design might be failing.
>Pete
>--
>'84 CJ7 with factory rebuilt 360, NV4500, Edelbrock carb & intake, headers,
>2.5" duals, homemade on-board air, etc...
>'04 Audi S4 that's bone stock
I like your driveline setup. What version of the NV4500 did you use
and which Tcase did you mate it with? Did you "cam" your 360? (I
assume AMC 360) You are definatly pressing the limits of your AMC 20 2
piece rear axle with your engine/tranny setup. THere was a time when
the AMC 401 was a real hot ticket in a Jeep but those engines are hard
to come by theses days. 360 is a good engine as I have a 28 year old
on in a old J20 truck that still runs well. I plan to restore truck
one day (I have owned it for 22 years) It is a in storage in the barn
right now and has not been on the road for a few years now since
exhaust system rusted out. One thing that was nice about my old J20 is
that it came from factory with altitude compensanting carb which you
do not see many of OEM. I can tell you it worked great because when I
had it out in rockies in mid 90's I had no idle or mixture problems
from sea level to over 10,000 feet.
-----------------
TheSnoMan.com
07-03-2007, 02:34 PM
#34
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Re: Axle click on AMC 20
Thanks. Sorry it took me so long to reply. I was out of town on bidness.
I'll check into that.
Pete
"Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@verizon.net> wrote in message
news:JMFfi.2599$yN.745@trnddc07...
> I've got an '81 CJ5 that I bought with the Moser axles already in it. I
> replaced the ball bearings after a couple of years, then a few years later
> it needed them again. I researched the issue and found that the ball
> bearings were rated at just slightly above the weight of the axle loading,
> and if I pulled my Army trailer I would exceed the limit of the bearings.
>
> I began looking for roller bearing type axles and found tht Moser now (at
> the time) made a roller bearing axle, and that Superior Gear also made
> them. I don't recall, but I think that Summers Bros also has a set.
>
> In any case, I bought my stuff from the drive train guys in Corona. I
> drove to Corona and they did the press work for free -- the old axles had
> to have the bearings pressed off to get the Brake Backing Plates, and the
> new axles had to have the bearings pressed on. I ended up with Superior
> Gear one-piece axles, and they have been okay for me.
>
>
>
>
>
> "Peter Stolz" <pstolz@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
> news:RCFfi.7107$bP5.1889@newssvr19.news.prodigy.ne t...
>> Yep. Here it is. Thanks!
>> http://www.drivetraindirect.com/axles_jeep.htm
>>
>>
>> "Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@verizon.net> wrote in message
>> news:PTyfi.815$RZ1.378@trnddc05...
>>> Superior Gear and Moser make a good one-piece axle. I'm not sure, but
>>> maybe Summers Bros. makes them also.
>>>
>>> There was a time when Moser built theirs with ball bearings, but they
>>> were not very good. Now Moser uses a roller bearing that is much better
>>> than the ball bearings they formerly used. Superior also uses a roller
>>> bearing.
>>>
>>> There is a company out of Corona, CA., that sells one-piece axle sets.
>>> They are either DrivetrainsDirect or DrivelinesDirect. They have an
>>> online presence at whatevertheirnameis.com
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> "Peter Stolz" <pstolz@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
>>> news:o%wfi.7735$c06.7229@newssvr22.news.prodigy.ne t...
>>>> Hi guys,
>>>> My CJ's AMC 20 makes a click in the left rear out near the wheel
>>>> whenever I go from forward to reverse or reverse to forward and put a
>>>> small load on it. I'm assuming it's the two-piece design of the axle
>>>> shafts and if I swap in new one piecers it'll fix the problem. What
>>>> are the best ones and where can I get 'em?
>>>> Pete
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> '84 CJ7 with factory rebuilt 360, NV4500, Edelbrock carb & intake,
>>>> headers, 2.5" duals, homemade on-board air, etc...
>>>> '04 Audi S4 that's bone stock
>>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>
I'll check into that.
Pete
"Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@verizon.net> wrote in message
news:JMFfi.2599$yN.745@trnddc07...
> I've got an '81 CJ5 that I bought with the Moser axles already in it. I
> replaced the ball bearings after a couple of years, then a few years later
> it needed them again. I researched the issue and found that the ball
> bearings were rated at just slightly above the weight of the axle loading,
> and if I pulled my Army trailer I would exceed the limit of the bearings.
>
> I began looking for roller bearing type axles and found tht Moser now (at
> the time) made a roller bearing axle, and that Superior Gear also made
> them. I don't recall, but I think that Summers Bros also has a set.
>
> In any case, I bought my stuff from the drive train guys in Corona. I
> drove to Corona and they did the press work for free -- the old axles had
> to have the bearings pressed off to get the Brake Backing Plates, and the
> new axles had to have the bearings pressed on. I ended up with Superior
> Gear one-piece axles, and they have been okay for me.
>
>
>
>
>
> "Peter Stolz" <pstolz@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
> news:RCFfi.7107$bP5.1889@newssvr19.news.prodigy.ne t...
>> Yep. Here it is. Thanks!
>> http://www.drivetraindirect.com/axles_jeep.htm
>>
>>
>> "Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@verizon.net> wrote in message
>> news:PTyfi.815$RZ1.378@trnddc05...
>>> Superior Gear and Moser make a good one-piece axle. I'm not sure, but
>>> maybe Summers Bros. makes them also.
>>>
>>> There was a time when Moser built theirs with ball bearings, but they
>>> were not very good. Now Moser uses a roller bearing that is much better
>>> than the ball bearings they formerly used. Superior also uses a roller
>>> bearing.
>>>
>>> There is a company out of Corona, CA., that sells one-piece axle sets.
>>> They are either DrivetrainsDirect or DrivelinesDirect. They have an
>>> online presence at whatevertheirnameis.com
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> "Peter Stolz" <pstolz@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
>>> news:o%wfi.7735$c06.7229@newssvr22.news.prodigy.ne t...
>>>> Hi guys,
>>>> My CJ's AMC 20 makes a click in the left rear out near the wheel
>>>> whenever I go from forward to reverse or reverse to forward and put a
>>>> small load on it. I'm assuming it's the two-piece design of the axle
>>>> shafts and if I swap in new one piecers it'll fix the problem. What
>>>> are the best ones and where can I get 'em?
>>>> Pete
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> '84 CJ7 with factory rebuilt 360, NV4500, Edelbrock carb & intake,
>>>> headers, 2.5" duals, homemade on-board air, etc...
>>>> '04 Audi S4 that's bone stock
>>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>
07-03-2007, 02:34 PM
#35
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Axle click on AMC 20
Thanks. Sorry it took me so long to reply. I was out of town on bidness.
I'll check into that.
Pete
"Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@verizon.net> wrote in message
news:JMFfi.2599$yN.745@trnddc07...
> I've got an '81 CJ5 that I bought with the Moser axles already in it. I
> replaced the ball bearings after a couple of years, then a few years later
> it needed them again. I researched the issue and found that the ball
> bearings were rated at just slightly above the weight of the axle loading,
> and if I pulled my Army trailer I would exceed the limit of the bearings.
>
> I began looking for roller bearing type axles and found tht Moser now (at
> the time) made a roller bearing axle, and that Superior Gear also made
> them. I don't recall, but I think that Summers Bros also has a set.
>
> In any case, I bought my stuff from the drive train guys in Corona. I
> drove to Corona and they did the press work for free -- the old axles had
> to have the bearings pressed off to get the Brake Backing Plates, and the
> new axles had to have the bearings pressed on. I ended up with Superior
> Gear one-piece axles, and they have been okay for me.
>
>
>
>
>
> "Peter Stolz" <pstolz@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
> news:RCFfi.7107$bP5.1889@newssvr19.news.prodigy.ne t...
>> Yep. Here it is. Thanks!
>> http://www.drivetraindirect.com/axles_jeep.htm
>>
>>
>> "Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@verizon.net> wrote in message
>> news:PTyfi.815$RZ1.378@trnddc05...
>>> Superior Gear and Moser make a good one-piece axle. I'm not sure, but
>>> maybe Summers Bros. makes them also.
>>>
>>> There was a time when Moser built theirs with ball bearings, but they
>>> were not very good. Now Moser uses a roller bearing that is much better
>>> than the ball bearings they formerly used. Superior also uses a roller
>>> bearing.
>>>
>>> There is a company out of Corona, CA., that sells one-piece axle sets.
>>> They are either DrivetrainsDirect or DrivelinesDirect. They have an
>>> online presence at whatevertheirnameis.com
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> "Peter Stolz" <pstolz@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
>>> news:o%wfi.7735$c06.7229@newssvr22.news.prodigy.ne t...
>>>> Hi guys,
>>>> My CJ's AMC 20 makes a click in the left rear out near the wheel
>>>> whenever I go from forward to reverse or reverse to forward and put a
>>>> small load on it. I'm assuming it's the two-piece design of the axle
>>>> shafts and if I swap in new one piecers it'll fix the problem. What
>>>> are the best ones and where can I get 'em?
>>>> Pete
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> '84 CJ7 with factory rebuilt 360, NV4500, Edelbrock carb & intake,
>>>> headers, 2.5" duals, homemade on-board air, etc...
>>>> '04 Audi S4 that's bone stock
>>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>
I'll check into that.
Pete
"Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@verizon.net> wrote in message
news:JMFfi.2599$yN.745@trnddc07...
> I've got an '81 CJ5 that I bought with the Moser axles already in it. I
> replaced the ball bearings after a couple of years, then a few years later
> it needed them again. I researched the issue and found that the ball
> bearings were rated at just slightly above the weight of the axle loading,
> and if I pulled my Army trailer I would exceed the limit of the bearings.
>
> I began looking for roller bearing type axles and found tht Moser now (at
> the time) made a roller bearing axle, and that Superior Gear also made
> them. I don't recall, but I think that Summers Bros also has a set.
>
> In any case, I bought my stuff from the drive train guys in Corona. I
> drove to Corona and they did the press work for free -- the old axles had
> to have the bearings pressed off to get the Brake Backing Plates, and the
> new axles had to have the bearings pressed on. I ended up with Superior
> Gear one-piece axles, and they have been okay for me.
>
>
>
>
>
> "Peter Stolz" <pstolz@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
> news:RCFfi.7107$bP5.1889@newssvr19.news.prodigy.ne t...
>> Yep. Here it is. Thanks!
>> http://www.drivetraindirect.com/axles_jeep.htm
>>
>>
>> "Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@verizon.net> wrote in message
>> news:PTyfi.815$RZ1.378@trnddc05...
>>> Superior Gear and Moser make a good one-piece axle. I'm not sure, but
>>> maybe Summers Bros. makes them also.
>>>
>>> There was a time when Moser built theirs with ball bearings, but they
>>> were not very good. Now Moser uses a roller bearing that is much better
>>> than the ball bearings they formerly used. Superior also uses a roller
>>> bearing.
>>>
>>> There is a company out of Corona, CA., that sells one-piece axle sets.
>>> They are either DrivetrainsDirect or DrivelinesDirect. They have an
>>> online presence at whatevertheirnameis.com
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> "Peter Stolz" <pstolz@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
>>> news:o%wfi.7735$c06.7229@newssvr22.news.prodigy.ne t...
>>>> Hi guys,
>>>> My CJ's AMC 20 makes a click in the left rear out near the wheel
>>>> whenever I go from forward to reverse or reverse to forward and put a
>>>> small load on it. I'm assuming it's the two-piece design of the axle
>>>> shafts and if I swap in new one piecers it'll fix the problem. What
>>>> are the best ones and where can I get 'em?
>>>> Pete
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> '84 CJ7 with factory rebuilt 360, NV4500, Edelbrock carb & intake,
>>>> headers, 2.5" duals, homemade on-board air, etc...
>>>> '04 Audi S4 that's bone stock
>>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>
07-03-2007, 02:34 PM
#36
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Axle click on AMC 20
Thanks. Sorry it took me so long to reply. I was out of town on bidness.
I'll check into that.
Pete
"Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@verizon.net> wrote in message
news:JMFfi.2599$yN.745@trnddc07...
> I've got an '81 CJ5 that I bought with the Moser axles already in it. I
> replaced the ball bearings after a couple of years, then a few years later
> it needed them again. I researched the issue and found that the ball
> bearings were rated at just slightly above the weight of the axle loading,
> and if I pulled my Army trailer I would exceed the limit of the bearings.
>
> I began looking for roller bearing type axles and found tht Moser now (at
> the time) made a roller bearing axle, and that Superior Gear also made
> them. I don't recall, but I think that Summers Bros also has a set.
>
> In any case, I bought my stuff from the drive train guys in Corona. I
> drove to Corona and they did the press work for free -- the old axles had
> to have the bearings pressed off to get the Brake Backing Plates, and the
> new axles had to have the bearings pressed on. I ended up with Superior
> Gear one-piece axles, and they have been okay for me.
>
>
>
>
>
> "Peter Stolz" <pstolz@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
> news:RCFfi.7107$bP5.1889@newssvr19.news.prodigy.ne t...
>> Yep. Here it is. Thanks!
>> http://www.drivetraindirect.com/axles_jeep.htm
>>
>>
>> "Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@verizon.net> wrote in message
>> news:PTyfi.815$RZ1.378@trnddc05...
>>> Superior Gear and Moser make a good one-piece axle. I'm not sure, but
>>> maybe Summers Bros. makes them also.
>>>
>>> There was a time when Moser built theirs with ball bearings, but they
>>> were not very good. Now Moser uses a roller bearing that is much better
>>> than the ball bearings they formerly used. Superior also uses a roller
>>> bearing.
>>>
>>> There is a company out of Corona, CA., that sells one-piece axle sets.
>>> They are either DrivetrainsDirect or DrivelinesDirect. They have an
>>> online presence at whatevertheirnameis.com
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> "Peter Stolz" <pstolz@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
>>> news:o%wfi.7735$c06.7229@newssvr22.news.prodigy.ne t...
>>>> Hi guys,
>>>> My CJ's AMC 20 makes a click in the left rear out near the wheel
>>>> whenever I go from forward to reverse or reverse to forward and put a
>>>> small load on it. I'm assuming it's the two-piece design of the axle
>>>> shafts and if I swap in new one piecers it'll fix the problem. What
>>>> are the best ones and where can I get 'em?
>>>> Pete
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> '84 CJ7 with factory rebuilt 360, NV4500, Edelbrock carb & intake,
>>>> headers, 2.5" duals, homemade on-board air, etc...
>>>> '04 Audi S4 that's bone stock
>>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>
I'll check into that.
Pete
"Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@verizon.net> wrote in message
news:JMFfi.2599$yN.745@trnddc07...
> I've got an '81 CJ5 that I bought with the Moser axles already in it. I
> replaced the ball bearings after a couple of years, then a few years later
> it needed them again. I researched the issue and found that the ball
> bearings were rated at just slightly above the weight of the axle loading,
> and if I pulled my Army trailer I would exceed the limit of the bearings.
>
> I began looking for roller bearing type axles and found tht Moser now (at
> the time) made a roller bearing axle, and that Superior Gear also made
> them. I don't recall, but I think that Summers Bros also has a set.
>
> In any case, I bought my stuff from the drive train guys in Corona. I
> drove to Corona and they did the press work for free -- the old axles had
> to have the bearings pressed off to get the Brake Backing Plates, and the
> new axles had to have the bearings pressed on. I ended up with Superior
> Gear one-piece axles, and they have been okay for me.
>
>
>
>
>
> "Peter Stolz" <pstolz@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
> news:RCFfi.7107$bP5.1889@newssvr19.news.prodigy.ne t...
>> Yep. Here it is. Thanks!
>> http://www.drivetraindirect.com/axles_jeep.htm
>>
>>
>> "Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@verizon.net> wrote in message
>> news:PTyfi.815$RZ1.378@trnddc05...
>>> Superior Gear and Moser make a good one-piece axle. I'm not sure, but
>>> maybe Summers Bros. makes them also.
>>>
>>> There was a time when Moser built theirs with ball bearings, but they
>>> were not very good. Now Moser uses a roller bearing that is much better
>>> than the ball bearings they formerly used. Superior also uses a roller
>>> bearing.
>>>
>>> There is a company out of Corona, CA., that sells one-piece axle sets.
>>> They are either DrivetrainsDirect or DrivelinesDirect. They have an
>>> online presence at whatevertheirnameis.com
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> "Peter Stolz" <pstolz@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
>>> news:o%wfi.7735$c06.7229@newssvr22.news.prodigy.ne t...
>>>> Hi guys,
>>>> My CJ's AMC 20 makes a click in the left rear out near the wheel
>>>> whenever I go from forward to reverse or reverse to forward and put a
>>>> small load on it. I'm assuming it's the two-piece design of the axle
>>>> shafts and if I swap in new one piecers it'll fix the problem. What
>>>> are the best ones and where can I get 'em?
>>>> Pete
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> '84 CJ7 with factory rebuilt 360, NV4500, Edelbrock carb & intake,
>>>> headers, 2.5" duals, homemade on-board air, etc...
>>>> '04 Audi S4 that's bone stock
>>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>
07-03-2007, 02:34 PM
#37
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Re: Axle click on AMC 20
Thanks. Sorry it took me so long to reply. I was out of town on bidness.
I'll check into that.
Pete
"Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@verizon.net> wrote in message
news:JMFfi.2599$yN.745@trnddc07...
> I've got an '81 CJ5 that I bought with the Moser axles already in it. I
> replaced the ball bearings after a couple of years, then a few years later
> it needed them again. I researched the issue and found that the ball
> bearings were rated at just slightly above the weight of the axle loading,
> and if I pulled my Army trailer I would exceed the limit of the bearings.
>
> I began looking for roller bearing type axles and found tht Moser now (at
> the time) made a roller bearing axle, and that Superior Gear also made
> them. I don't recall, but I think that Summers Bros also has a set.
>
> In any case, I bought my stuff from the drive train guys in Corona. I
> drove to Corona and they did the press work for free -- the old axles had
> to have the bearings pressed off to get the Brake Backing Plates, and the
> new axles had to have the bearings pressed on. I ended up with Superior
> Gear one-piece axles, and they have been okay for me.
>
>
>
>
>
> "Peter Stolz" <pstolz@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
> news:RCFfi.7107$bP5.1889@newssvr19.news.prodigy.ne t...
>> Yep. Here it is. Thanks!
>> http://www.drivetraindirect.com/axles_jeep.htm
>>
>>
>> "Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@verizon.net> wrote in message
>> news:PTyfi.815$RZ1.378@trnddc05...
>>> Superior Gear and Moser make a good one-piece axle. I'm not sure, but
>>> maybe Summers Bros. makes them also.
>>>
>>> There was a time when Moser built theirs with ball bearings, but they
>>> were not very good. Now Moser uses a roller bearing that is much better
>>> than the ball bearings they formerly used. Superior also uses a roller
>>> bearing.
>>>
>>> There is a company out of Corona, CA., that sells one-piece axle sets.
>>> They are either DrivetrainsDirect or DrivelinesDirect. They have an
>>> online presence at whatevertheirnameis.com
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> "Peter Stolz" <pstolz@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
>>> news:o%wfi.7735$c06.7229@newssvr22.news.prodigy.ne t...
>>>> Hi guys,
>>>> My CJ's AMC 20 makes a click in the left rear out near the wheel
>>>> whenever I go from forward to reverse or reverse to forward and put a
>>>> small load on it. I'm assuming it's the two-piece design of the axle
>>>> shafts and if I swap in new one piecers it'll fix the problem. What
>>>> are the best ones and where can I get 'em?
>>>> Pete
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> '84 CJ7 with factory rebuilt 360, NV4500, Edelbrock carb & intake,
>>>> headers, 2.5" duals, homemade on-board air, etc...
>>>> '04 Audi S4 that's bone stock
>>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>
I'll check into that.
Pete
"Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@verizon.net> wrote in message
news:JMFfi.2599$yN.745@trnddc07...
> I've got an '81 CJ5 that I bought with the Moser axles already in it. I
> replaced the ball bearings after a couple of years, then a few years later
> it needed them again. I researched the issue and found that the ball
> bearings were rated at just slightly above the weight of the axle loading,
> and if I pulled my Army trailer I would exceed the limit of the bearings.
>
> I began looking for roller bearing type axles and found tht Moser now (at
> the time) made a roller bearing axle, and that Superior Gear also made
> them. I don't recall, but I think that Summers Bros also has a set.
>
> In any case, I bought my stuff from the drive train guys in Corona. I
> drove to Corona and they did the press work for free -- the old axles had
> to have the bearings pressed off to get the Brake Backing Plates, and the
> new axles had to have the bearings pressed on. I ended up with Superior
> Gear one-piece axles, and they have been okay for me.
>
>
>
>
>
> "Peter Stolz" <pstolz@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
> news:RCFfi.7107$bP5.1889@newssvr19.news.prodigy.ne t...
>> Yep. Here it is. Thanks!
>> http://www.drivetraindirect.com/axles_jeep.htm
>>
>>
>> "Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@verizon.net> wrote in message
>> news:PTyfi.815$RZ1.378@trnddc05...
>>> Superior Gear and Moser make a good one-piece axle. I'm not sure, but
>>> maybe Summers Bros. makes them also.
>>>
>>> There was a time when Moser built theirs with ball bearings, but they
>>> were not very good. Now Moser uses a roller bearing that is much better
>>> than the ball bearings they formerly used. Superior also uses a roller
>>> bearing.
>>>
>>> There is a company out of Corona, CA., that sells one-piece axle sets.
>>> They are either DrivetrainsDirect or DrivelinesDirect. They have an
>>> online presence at whatevertheirnameis.com
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> "Peter Stolz" <pstolz@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
>>> news:o%wfi.7735$c06.7229@newssvr22.news.prodigy.ne t...
>>>> Hi guys,
>>>> My CJ's AMC 20 makes a click in the left rear out near the wheel
>>>> whenever I go from forward to reverse or reverse to forward and put a
>>>> small load on it. I'm assuming it's the two-piece design of the axle
>>>> shafts and if I swap in new one piecers it'll fix the problem. What
>>>> are the best ones and where can I get 'em?
>>>> Pete
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> '84 CJ7 with factory rebuilt 360, NV4500, Edelbrock carb & intake,
>>>> headers, 2.5" duals, homemade on-board air, etc...
>>>> '04 Audi S4 that's bone stock
>>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>
07-03-2007, 02:52 PM
#38
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Re: Re: Re: Axle click on AMC 20
"SnoMan" <admin@snoman.com> wrote in message
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> On Sun, 24 Jun 2007 21:15:46 -0500, "Peter Stolz"
> <pstolz@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>
>>Thanks for the help! I'll check all that stuff and maybe I can put off
>>the
>>one piece for a while. I'm running in sleeper mode at stock height with
>>only 31" BFG MT KM right now, but I figured with the power that's in front
>>of the axle, the two piece design might be failing.
>>Pete
>>--
>>'84 CJ7 with factory rebuilt 360, NV4500, Edelbrock carb & intake,
>>headers,
>>2.5" duals, homemade on-board air, etc...
>>'04 Audi S4 that's bone stock
>
>
> I like your driveline setup. What version of the NV4500 did you use
> and which Tcase did you mate it with? Did you "cam" your 360? (I
> assume AMC 360) You are definatly pressing the limits of your AMC 20 2
> piece rear axle with your engine/tranny setup. THere was a time when
> the AMC 401 was a real hot ticket in a Jeep but those engines are hard
> to come by theses days. 360 is a good engine as I have a 28 year old
> on in a old J20 truck that still runs well. I plan to restore truck
> one day (I have owned it for 22 years) It is a in storage in the barn
> right now and has not been on the road for a few years now since
> exhaust system rusted out. One thing that was nice about my old J20 is
> that it came from factory with altitude compensanting carb which you
> do not see many of OEM. I can tell you it worked great because when I
> had it out in rockies in mid 90's I had no idle or mixture problems
> from sea level to over 10,000 feet.
> -----------------
> TheSnoMan.com
>
Sorry it took so long to reply. I was out of town workin'. The 4500 is the
newer Dodge (not sure of any proper designation) with the 5.61 first gear.
The older ones had I think a 6.34 or something close. I couldn't get that
anymore, so I ordered up mine from JB Conversions. I tried to find a 401 at
the time (1996ish) but the only one available was a short block in Idaho.
That's like a 1000 miles away so I called the boneyards around here and
found a long block AMC 360 from an '82 Waggy that was literally two miles
from my house. They charged me $125 for it and they even left the AC
compressor on it. I got the hell out of there as fast as I could before the
figured it out. I then used that compressor to build my own on-board air
system. I sent the block off to Gopher for a new rebuilt. I have a Comp
cam for it sitting on my bench in the garage, but haven't had time to put
her in yet.
Pete
07-03-2007, 02:52 PM
#39
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Re: Re: Re: Axle click on AMC 20
"SnoMan" <admin@snoman.com> wrote in message
news:6t7v739d62ursmuglr69aq30l2cd312nuu@4ax.com...
> On Sun, 24 Jun 2007 21:15:46 -0500, "Peter Stolz"
> <pstolz@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>
>>Thanks for the help! I'll check all that stuff and maybe I can put off
>>the
>>one piece for a while. I'm running in sleeper mode at stock height with
>>only 31" BFG MT KM right now, but I figured with the power that's in front
>>of the axle, the two piece design might be failing.
>>Pete
>>--
>>'84 CJ7 with factory rebuilt 360, NV4500, Edelbrock carb & intake,
>>headers,
>>2.5" duals, homemade on-board air, etc...
>>'04 Audi S4 that's bone stock
>
>
> I like your driveline setup. What version of the NV4500 did you use
> and which Tcase did you mate it with? Did you "cam" your 360? (I
> assume AMC 360) You are definatly pressing the limits of your AMC 20 2
> piece rear axle with your engine/tranny setup. THere was a time when
> the AMC 401 was a real hot ticket in a Jeep but those engines are hard
> to come by theses days. 360 is a good engine as I have a 28 year old
> on in a old J20 truck that still runs well. I plan to restore truck
> one day (I have owned it for 22 years) It is a in storage in the barn
> right now and has not been on the road for a few years now since
> exhaust system rusted out. One thing that was nice about my old J20 is
> that it came from factory with altitude compensanting carb which you
> do not see many of OEM. I can tell you it worked great because when I
> had it out in rockies in mid 90's I had no idle or mixture problems
> from sea level to over 10,000 feet.
> -----------------
> TheSnoMan.com
>
Sorry it took so long to reply. I was out of town workin'. The 4500 is the
newer Dodge (not sure of any proper designation) with the 5.61 first gear.
The older ones had I think a 6.34 or something close. I couldn't get that
anymore, so I ordered up mine from JB Conversions. I tried to find a 401 at
the time (1996ish) but the only one available was a short block in Idaho.
That's like a 1000 miles away so I called the boneyards around here and
found a long block AMC 360 from an '82 Waggy that was literally two miles
from my house. They charged me $125 for it and they even left the AC
compressor on it. I got the hell out of there as fast as I could before the
figured it out. I then used that compressor to build my own on-board air
system. I sent the block off to Gopher for a new rebuilt. I have a Comp
cam for it sitting on my bench in the garage, but haven't had time to put
her in yet.
Pete
07-03-2007, 02:52 PM
#40
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Re: Re: Re: Axle click on AMC 20
"SnoMan" <admin@snoman.com> wrote in message
news:6t7v739d62ursmuglr69aq30l2cd312nuu@4ax.com...
> On Sun, 24 Jun 2007 21:15:46 -0500, "Peter Stolz"
> <pstolz@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>
>>Thanks for the help! I'll check all that stuff and maybe I can put off
>>the
>>one piece for a while. I'm running in sleeper mode at stock height with
>>only 31" BFG MT KM right now, but I figured with the power that's in front
>>of the axle, the two piece design might be failing.
>>Pete
>>--
>>'84 CJ7 with factory rebuilt 360, NV4500, Edelbrock carb & intake,
>>headers,
>>2.5" duals, homemade on-board air, etc...
>>'04 Audi S4 that's bone stock
>
>
> I like your driveline setup. What version of the NV4500 did you use
> and which Tcase did you mate it with? Did you "cam" your 360? (I
> assume AMC 360) You are definatly pressing the limits of your AMC 20 2
> piece rear axle with your engine/tranny setup. THere was a time when
> the AMC 401 was a real hot ticket in a Jeep but those engines are hard
> to come by theses days. 360 is a good engine as I have a 28 year old
> on in a old J20 truck that still runs well. I plan to restore truck
> one day (I have owned it for 22 years) It is a in storage in the barn
> right now and has not been on the road for a few years now since
> exhaust system rusted out. One thing that was nice about my old J20 is
> that it came from factory with altitude compensanting carb which you
> do not see many of OEM. I can tell you it worked great because when I
> had it out in rockies in mid 90's I had no idle or mixture problems
> from sea level to over 10,000 feet.
> -----------------
> TheSnoMan.com
>
Sorry it took so long to reply. I was out of town workin'. The 4500 is the
newer Dodge (not sure of any proper designation) with the 5.61 first gear.
The older ones had I think a 6.34 or something close. I couldn't get that
anymore, so I ordered up mine from JB Conversions. I tried to find a 401 at
the time (1996ish) but the only one available was a short block in Idaho.
That's like a 1000 miles away so I called the boneyards around here and
found a long block AMC 360 from an '82 Waggy that was literally two miles
from my house. They charged me $125 for it and they even left the AC
compressor on it. I got the hell out of there as fast as I could before the
figured it out. I then used that compressor to build my own on-board air
system. I sent the block off to Gopher for a new rebuilt. I have a Comp
cam for it sitting on my bench in the garage, but haven't had time to put
her in yet.
Pete
