Peter Stolz

"SnoMan" <admin@snoman.com> wrote in message
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> On Sun, 24 Jun 2007 12:45:07 -0400, Mike Romain <romainm@sympatico.ca>
> wrote:
>
>>The brake adjuster can make a noise like you describe, especially if the
>>star wheel has gotten sticky/stuck.
>>
>>I would look there first.
>
>
> Wrong again as usual. With a AMC 20 the first place you want to ALWAYS
> look is make sure that the axle hub "gland" nut is tight because it is
> what keeps hub tightly on splines. If it turns out loose, you should
> torque it and if noise persists THEN pull hub and inspect splines and
> after that brake hardware. If it is snog, pull hub and inspect splines
> and then brake hardware. While the AMC 20 is basically a stout axle it
> suffers from a weak hub when used in a 4x4 with a lift and big tires.
> Generally they tend to hold up for a while IF nut is kept tight and
> tires are not too big. As someone else mentioned there is a after
> market one piece axle replace kit for it that when installed makes it
> a fairly bullet proof rear axle up to 35's or so.
> -----------------
> TheSnoMan.com

Thanks for the help! I'll check all that stuff and maybe I can put off the
one piece for a while. I'm running in sleeper mode at stock height with
only 31" BFG MT KM right now, but I figured with the power that's in front
of the axle, the two piece design might be failing.
Pete
--
'84 CJ7 with factory rebuilt 360, NV4500, Edelbrock carb & intake, headers,
2.5" duals, homemade on-board air, etc...
'04 Audi S4 that's bone stock

Peter Stolz

Yep. Here it is. Thanks!
http://www.drivetraindirect.com/axles_jeep.htm


"Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@verizon.net> wrote in message
news:PTyfi.815$RZ1.378@trnddc05...
> Superior Gear and Moser make a good one-piece axle. I'm not sure, but
> maybe Summers Bros. makes them also.
>
> There was a time when Moser built theirs with ball bearings, but they were
> not very good. Now Moser uses a roller bearing that is much better than
> the ball bearings they formerly used. Superior also uses a roller bearing.
>
> There is a company out of Corona, CA., that sells one-piece axle sets.
> They are either DrivetrainsDirect or DrivelinesDirect. They have an online
> presence at whatevertheirnameis.com
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> "Peter Stolz" <pstolz@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
> news:o%wfi.7735$c06.7229@newssvr22.news.prodigy.ne t...
>> Hi guys,
>> My CJ's AMC 20 makes a click in the left rear out near the wheel whenever
>> I go from forward to reverse or reverse to forward and put a small load
>> on it. I'm assuming it's the two-piece design of the axle shafts and if I
>> swap in new one piecers it'll fix the problem. What are the best ones
>> and where can I get 'em?
>> Pete
>>
>> --
>> '84 CJ7 with factory rebuilt 360, NV4500, Edelbrock carb & intake,
>> headers, 2.5" duals, homemade on-board air, etc...
>> '04 Audi S4 that's bone stock
>>
>

Peter Stolz

Yep. Here it is. Thanks!
http://www.drivetraindirect.com/axles_jeep.htm


"Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@verizon.net> wrote in message
news:PTyfi.815$RZ1.378@trnddc05...
> Superior Gear and Moser make a good one-piece axle. I'm not sure, but
> maybe Summers Bros. makes them also.
>
> There was a time when Moser built theirs with ball bearings, but they were
> not very good. Now Moser uses a roller bearing that is much better than
> the ball bearings they formerly used. Superior also uses a roller bearing.
>
> There is a company out of Corona, CA., that sells one-piece axle sets.
> They are either DrivetrainsDirect or DrivelinesDirect. They have an online
> presence at whatevertheirnameis.com
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> "Peter Stolz" <pstolz@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
> news:o%wfi.7735$c06.7229@newssvr22.news.prodigy.ne t...
>> Hi guys,
>> My CJ's AMC 20 makes a click in the left rear out near the wheel whenever
>> I go from forward to reverse or reverse to forward and put a small load
>> on it. I'm assuming it's the two-piece design of the axle shafts and if I
>> swap in new one piecers it'll fix the problem. What are the best ones
>> and where can I get 'em?
>> Pete
>>
>> --
>> '84 CJ7 with factory rebuilt 360, NV4500, Edelbrock carb & intake,
>> headers, 2.5" duals, homemade on-board air, etc...
>> '04 Audi S4 that's bone stock
>>
>

Peter Stolz

Yep. Here it is. Thanks!
http://www.drivetraindirect.com/axles_jeep.htm


"Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@verizon.net> wrote in message
news:PTyfi.815$RZ1.378@trnddc05...
> Superior Gear and Moser make a good one-piece axle. I'm not sure, but
> maybe Summers Bros. makes them also.
>
> There was a time when Moser built theirs with ball bearings, but they were
> not very good. Now Moser uses a roller bearing that is much better than
> the ball bearings they formerly used. Superior also uses a roller bearing.
>
> There is a company out of Corona, CA., that sells one-piece axle sets.
> They are either DrivetrainsDirect or DrivelinesDirect. They have an online
> presence at whatevertheirnameis.com
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> "Peter Stolz" <pstolz@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
> news:o%wfi.7735$c06.7229@newssvr22.news.prodigy.ne t...
>> Hi guys,
>> My CJ's AMC 20 makes a click in the left rear out near the wheel whenever
>> I go from forward to reverse or reverse to forward and put a small load
>> on it. I'm assuming it's the two-piece design of the axle shafts and if I
>> swap in new one piecers it'll fix the problem. What are the best ones
>> and where can I get 'em?
>> Pete
>>
>> --
>> '84 CJ7 with factory rebuilt 360, NV4500, Edelbrock carb & intake,
>> headers, 2.5" duals, homemade on-board air, etc...
>> '04 Audi S4 that's bone stock
>>
>

Peter Stolz

Yep. Here it is. Thanks!
http://www.drivetraindirect.com/axles_jeep.htm


"Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@verizon.net> wrote in message
news:PTyfi.815$RZ1.378@trnddc05...
> Superior Gear and Moser make a good one-piece axle. I'm not sure, but
> maybe Summers Bros. makes them also.
>
> There was a time when Moser built theirs with ball bearings, but they were
> not very good. Now Moser uses a roller bearing that is much better than
> the ball bearings they formerly used. Superior also uses a roller bearing.
>
> There is a company out of Corona, CA., that sells one-piece axle sets.
> They are either DrivetrainsDirect or DrivelinesDirect. They have an online
> presence at whatevertheirnameis.com
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> "Peter Stolz" <pstolz@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
> news:o%wfi.7735$c06.7229@newssvr22.news.prodigy.ne t...
>> Hi guys,
>> My CJ's AMC 20 makes a click in the left rear out near the wheel whenever
>> I go from forward to reverse or reverse to forward and put a small load
>> on it. I'm assuming it's the two-piece design of the axle shafts and if I
>> swap in new one piecers it'll fix the problem. What are the best ones
>> and where can I get 'em?
>> Pete
>>
>> --
>> '84 CJ7 with factory rebuilt 360, NV4500, Edelbrock carb & intake,
>> headers, 2.5" duals, homemade on-board air, etc...
>> '04 Audi S4 that's bone stock
>>
>

Jeff Strickland

I've got an '81 CJ5 that I bought with the Moser axles already in it. I
replaced the ball bearings after a couple of years, then a few years later
it needed them again. I researched the issue and found that the ball
bearings were rated at just slightly above the weight of the axle loading,
and if I pulled my Army trailer I would exceed the limit of the bearings.

I began looking for roller bearing type axles and found tht Moser now (at
the time) made a roller bearing axle, and that Superior Gear also made them.
I don't recall, but I think that Summers Bros also has a set.

In any case, I bought my stuff from the drive train guys in Corona. I drove
to Corona and they did the press work for free -- the old axles had to have
the bearings pressed off to get the Brake Backing Plates, and the new axles
had to have the bearings pressed on. I ended up with Superior Gear one-piece
axles, and they have been okay for me.





"Peter Stolz" <pstolz@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
news:RCFfi.7107$bP5.1889@newssvr19.news.prodigy.ne t...
> Yep. Here it is. Thanks!
> http://www.drivetraindirect.com/axles_jeep.htm
>
>
> "Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@verizon.net> wrote in message
> news:PTyfi.815$RZ1.378@trnddc05...
>> Superior Gear and Moser make a good one-piece axle. I'm not sure, but
>> maybe Summers Bros. makes them also.
>>
>> There was a time when Moser built theirs with ball bearings, but they
>> were not very good. Now Moser uses a roller bearing that is much better
>> than the ball bearings they formerly used. Superior also uses a roller
>> bearing.
>>
>> There is a company out of Corona, CA., that sells one-piece axle sets.
>> They are either DrivetrainsDirect or DrivelinesDirect. They have an
>> online presence at whatevertheirnameis.com
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> "Peter Stolz" <pstolz@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
>> news:o%wfi.7735$c06.7229@newssvr22.news.prodigy.ne t...
>>> Hi guys,
>>> My CJ's AMC 20 makes a click in the left rear out near the wheel
>>> whenever I go from forward to reverse or reverse to forward and put a
>>> small load on it. I'm assuming it's the two-piece design of the axle
>>> shafts and if I swap in new one piecers it'll fix the problem. What are
>>> the best ones and where can I get 'em?
>>> Pete
>>>
>>> --
>>> '84 CJ7 with factory rebuilt 360, NV4500, Edelbrock carb & intake,
>>> headers, 2.5" duals, homemade on-board air, etc...
>>> '04 Audi S4 that's bone stock
>>>
>>
>
>

Jeff Strickland

I've got an '81 CJ5 that I bought with the Moser axles already in it. I
replaced the ball bearings after a couple of years, then a few years later
it needed them again. I researched the issue and found that the ball
bearings were rated at just slightly above the weight of the axle loading,
and if I pulled my Army trailer I would exceed the limit of the bearings.

I began looking for roller bearing type axles and found tht Moser now (at
the time) made a roller bearing axle, and that Superior Gear also made them.
I don't recall, but I think that Summers Bros also has a set.

In any case, I bought my stuff from the drive train guys in Corona. I drove
to Corona and they did the press work for free -- the old axles had to have
the bearings pressed off to get the Brake Backing Plates, and the new axles
had to have the bearings pressed on. I ended up with Superior Gear one-piece
axles, and they have been okay for me.





"Peter Stolz" <pstolz@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
news:RCFfi.7107$bP5.1889@newssvr19.news.prodigy.ne t...
> Yep. Here it is. Thanks!
> http://www.drivetraindirect.com/axles_jeep.htm
>
>
> "Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@verizon.net> wrote in message
> news:PTyfi.815$RZ1.378@trnddc05...
>> Superior Gear and Moser make a good one-piece axle. I'm not sure, but
>> maybe Summers Bros. makes them also.
>>
>> There was a time when Moser built theirs with ball bearings, but they
>> were not very good. Now Moser uses a roller bearing that is much better
>> than the ball bearings they formerly used. Superior also uses a roller
>> bearing.
>>
>> There is a company out of Corona, CA., that sells one-piece axle sets.
>> They are either DrivetrainsDirect or DrivelinesDirect. They have an
>> online presence at whatevertheirnameis.com
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> "Peter Stolz" <pstolz@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
>> news:o%wfi.7735$c06.7229@newssvr22.news.prodigy.ne t...
>>> Hi guys,
>>> My CJ's AMC 20 makes a click in the left rear out near the wheel
>>> whenever I go from forward to reverse or reverse to forward and put a
>>> small load on it. I'm assuming it's the two-piece design of the axle
>>> shafts and if I swap in new one piecers it'll fix the problem. What are
>>> the best ones and where can I get 'em?
>>> Pete
>>>
>>> --
>>> '84 CJ7 with factory rebuilt 360, NV4500, Edelbrock carb & intake,
>>> headers, 2.5" duals, homemade on-board air, etc...
>>> '04 Audi S4 that's bone stock
>>>
>>
>
>

Jeff Strickland

I've got an '81 CJ5 that I bought with the Moser axles already in it. I
replaced the ball bearings after a couple of years, then a few years later
it needed them again. I researched the issue and found that the ball
bearings were rated at just slightly above the weight of the axle loading,
and if I pulled my Army trailer I would exceed the limit of the bearings.

I began looking for roller bearing type axles and found tht Moser now (at
the time) made a roller bearing axle, and that Superior Gear also made them.
I don't recall, but I think that Summers Bros also has a set.

In any case, I bought my stuff from the drive train guys in Corona. I drove
to Corona and they did the press work for free -- the old axles had to have
the bearings pressed off to get the Brake Backing Plates, and the new axles
had to have the bearings pressed on. I ended up with Superior Gear one-piece
axles, and they have been okay for me.





"Peter Stolz" <pstolz@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
news:RCFfi.7107$bP5.1889@newssvr19.news.prodigy.ne t...
> Yep. Here it is. Thanks!
> http://www.drivetraindirect.com/axles_jeep.htm
>
>
> "Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@verizon.net> wrote in message
> news:PTyfi.815$RZ1.378@trnddc05...
>> Superior Gear and Moser make a good one-piece axle. I'm not sure, but
>> maybe Summers Bros. makes them also.
>>
>> There was a time when Moser built theirs with ball bearings, but they
>> were not very good. Now Moser uses a roller bearing that is much better
>> than the ball bearings they formerly used. Superior also uses a roller
>> bearing.
>>
>> There is a company out of Corona, CA., that sells one-piece axle sets.
>> They are either DrivetrainsDirect or DrivelinesDirect. They have an
>> online presence at whatevertheirnameis.com
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> "Peter Stolz" <pstolz@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
>> news:o%wfi.7735$c06.7229@newssvr22.news.prodigy.ne t...
>>> Hi guys,
>>> My CJ's AMC 20 makes a click in the left rear out near the wheel
>>> whenever I go from forward to reverse or reverse to forward and put a
>>> small load on it. I'm assuming it's the two-piece design of the axle
>>> shafts and if I swap in new one piecers it'll fix the problem. What are
>>> the best ones and where can I get 'em?
>>> Pete
>>>
>>> --
>>> '84 CJ7 with factory rebuilt 360, NV4500, Edelbrock carb & intake,
>>> headers, 2.5" duals, homemade on-board air, etc...
>>> '04 Audi S4 that's bone stock
>>>
>>
>
>

Jeff Strickland

I've got an '81 CJ5 that I bought with the Moser axles already in it. I
replaced the ball bearings after a couple of years, then a few years later
it needed them again. I researched the issue and found that the ball
bearings were rated at just slightly above the weight of the axle loading,
and if I pulled my Army trailer I would exceed the limit of the bearings.

I began looking for roller bearing type axles and found tht Moser now (at
the time) made a roller bearing axle, and that Superior Gear also made them.
I don't recall, but I think that Summers Bros also has a set.

In any case, I bought my stuff from the drive train guys in Corona. I drove
to Corona and they did the press work for free -- the old axles had to have
the bearings pressed off to get the Brake Backing Plates, and the new axles
had to have the bearings pressed on. I ended up with Superior Gear one-piece
axles, and they have been okay for me.





"Peter Stolz" <pstolz@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
news:RCFfi.7107$bP5.1889@newssvr19.news.prodigy.ne t...
> Yep. Here it is. Thanks!
> http://www.drivetraindirect.com/axles_jeep.htm
>
>
> "Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@verizon.net> wrote in message
> news:PTyfi.815$RZ1.378@trnddc05...
>> Superior Gear and Moser make a good one-piece axle. I'm not sure, but
>> maybe Summers Bros. makes them also.
>>
>> There was a time when Moser built theirs with ball bearings, but they
>> were not very good. Now Moser uses a roller bearing that is much better
>> than the ball bearings they formerly used. Superior also uses a roller
>> bearing.
>>
>> There is a company out of Corona, CA., that sells one-piece axle sets.
>> They are either DrivetrainsDirect or DrivelinesDirect. They have an
>> online presence at whatevertheirnameis.com
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> "Peter Stolz" <pstolz@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
>> news:o%wfi.7735$c06.7229@newssvr22.news.prodigy.ne t...
>>> Hi guys,
>>> My CJ's AMC 20 makes a click in the left rear out near the wheel
>>> whenever I go from forward to reverse or reverse to forward and put a
>>> small load on it. I'm assuming it's the two-piece design of the axle
>>> shafts and if I swap in new one piecers it'll fix the problem. What are
>>> the best ones and where can I get 'em?
>>> Pete
>>>
>>> --
>>> '84 CJ7 with factory rebuilt 360, NV4500, Edelbrock carb & intake,
>>> headers, 2.5" duals, homemade on-board air, etc...
>>> '04 Audi S4 that's bone stock
>>>
>>
>
>

SnoMan

On Sun, 24 Jun 2007 21:15:46 -0500, "Peter Stolz"
<pstolz@sbcglobal.net> wrote:

>Thanks for the help! I'll check all that stuff and maybe I can put off the
>one piece for a while. I'm running in sleeper mode at stock height with
>only 31" BFG MT KM right now, but I figured with the power that's in front
>of the axle, the two piece design might be failing.
>Pete
>--
>'84 CJ7 with factory rebuilt 360, NV4500, Edelbrock carb & intake, headers,
>2.5" duals, homemade on-board air, etc...
>'04 Audi S4 that's bone stock


I like your driveline setup. What version of the NV4500 did you use
and which Tcase did you mate it with? Did you "cam" your 360? (I
assume AMC 360) You are definatly pressing the limits of your AMC 20 2
piece rear axle with your engine/tranny setup. THere was a time when
the AMC 401 was a real hot ticket in a Jeep but those engines are hard
to come by theses days. 360 is a good engine as I have a 28 year old
on in a old J20 truck that still runs well. I plan to restore truck
one day (I have owned it for 22 years) It is a in storage in the barn
right now and has not been on the road for a few years now since
exhaust system rusted out. One thing that was nice about my old J20 is
that it came from factory with altitude compensanting carb which you
do not see many of OEM. I can tell you it worked great because when I
had it out in rockies in mid 90's I had no idle or mixture problems
from sea level to over 10,000 feet.
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