angle wedge on Rubicon lift
#81
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Re: angle wedge on Rubicon lift
I am going to Bill, thanks for the web post. It is a work in progress. I
think I assembled the components not in the order proposed by rubicon. I
am attempting to disassemble the pitman arm last. I am thinking I have
excessive stress on the assembly which is already difficult to remove.
Also, the drag link comes with a bracket in the kit. I also, did not
follow item by item directions. I have the springs tightened up, and the
drag link isn't lining up. I will loosen everything and redo next weekend,
I'm about an inch off on the drag link lining up. I might try jacking up
the passenger side axle side to compensate for a quick re-attachment. I am
a mechanic/technician by trade but not automotive. I'm a licencened
electrician and do heating and air conditoning. New to the Jeep World, but
have common sense and SOME mechanical skills. Bought the jeep for $2000.
80,000 miles. It wouldn't move, so I got a deal, new clutch and WallaAA!
Lots of nickle and dime stuff though. Otherwise, my heart was in a real
jeep if I hadn't gotten such a good deal
thanks BILL
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think I assembled the components not in the order proposed by rubicon. I
am attempting to disassemble the pitman arm last. I am thinking I have
excessive stress on the assembly which is already difficult to remove.
Also, the drag link comes with a bracket in the kit. I also, did not
follow item by item directions. I have the springs tightened up, and the
drag link isn't lining up. I will loosen everything and redo next weekend,
I'm about an inch off on the drag link lining up. I might try jacking up
the passenger side axle side to compensate for a quick re-attachment. I am
a mechanic/technician by trade but not automotive. I'm a licencened
electrician and do heating and air conditoning. New to the Jeep World, but
have common sense and SOME mechanical skills. Bought the jeep for $2000.
80,000 miles. It wouldn't move, so I got a deal, new clutch and WallaAA!
Lots of nickle and dime stuff though. Otherwise, my heart was in a real
jeep if I hadn't gotten such a good deal
thanks BILL
--
Message posted via http://www.carkb.com
#82
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Re: angle wedge on Rubicon lift
"Robb S via CarKB.com" <forum@CarKB.com> wrote in message
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> interesting about the wedges in the rear, rubicon didn't supply any wedges
> for the rear. The instructions were very poor in that area. Alls they
> stated were, here are the shimms, use them or not, make sure the pin
> doesn't hit the axle if you don't use them. Oh well.
My RE 4.5" YJ kit came with two sets of 2.5 degree wedges. What Rubicon sent
to pass for instructions didn't mention either set, but it was fairly clear
that the longer shackles would require a caster correction up front, and the
amount of lift would require rear pinion shims and a transfer case drop. (I
have an Atlas II so the SYE kit requirement was not applicable.) Since I had
previously replaced the stock YJ axles with a Dynatrac D44/D60 combination,
we cut the rear spring perches loose and dialed in the pinion without the
xfer case drop or shims. Up front we measured the caster and found it to be
at 4 degrees, so we added 2 degree steel shims rather than cut the perches
loose & re-welding. To get rid of any front driveshaft issues we instaled a
Hi Angle Driveline CV shaft. The degree shims fixed the caster, the CV
driveshaft fixed the vibration and added a lot of beef. FWIW, I long ago
tossed the track bars front & rear, and the sway bar, so we never installed
any of the associated Rubicon brackets, links, etc.
#83
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Re: angle wedge on Rubicon lift
"Robb S via CarKB.com" <forum@CarKB.com> wrote in message
news:674d254214324dbbaaf130706e93e277@CarKB.com...
> interesting about the wedges in the rear, rubicon didn't supply any wedges
> for the rear. The instructions were very poor in that area. Alls they
> stated were, here are the shimms, use them or not, make sure the pin
> doesn't hit the axle if you don't use them. Oh well.
My RE 4.5" YJ kit came with two sets of 2.5 degree wedges. What Rubicon sent
to pass for instructions didn't mention either set, but it was fairly clear
that the longer shackles would require a caster correction up front, and the
amount of lift would require rear pinion shims and a transfer case drop. (I
have an Atlas II so the SYE kit requirement was not applicable.) Since I had
previously replaced the stock YJ axles with a Dynatrac D44/D60 combination,
we cut the rear spring perches loose and dialed in the pinion without the
xfer case drop or shims. Up front we measured the caster and found it to be
at 4 degrees, so we added 2 degree steel shims rather than cut the perches
loose & re-welding. To get rid of any front driveshaft issues we instaled a
Hi Angle Driveline CV shaft. The degree shims fixed the caster, the CV
driveshaft fixed the vibration and added a lot of beef. FWIW, I long ago
tossed the track bars front & rear, and the sway bar, so we never installed
any of the associated Rubicon brackets, links, etc.
#84
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Re: angle wedge on Rubicon lift
"Robb S via CarKB.com" <forum@CarKB.com> wrote in message
news:674d254214324dbbaaf130706e93e277@CarKB.com...
> interesting about the wedges in the rear, rubicon didn't supply any wedges
> for the rear. The instructions were very poor in that area. Alls they
> stated were, here are the shimms, use them or not, make sure the pin
> doesn't hit the axle if you don't use them. Oh well.
My RE 4.5" YJ kit came with two sets of 2.5 degree wedges. What Rubicon sent
to pass for instructions didn't mention either set, but it was fairly clear
that the longer shackles would require a caster correction up front, and the
amount of lift would require rear pinion shims and a transfer case drop. (I
have an Atlas II so the SYE kit requirement was not applicable.) Since I had
previously replaced the stock YJ axles with a Dynatrac D44/D60 combination,
we cut the rear spring perches loose and dialed in the pinion without the
xfer case drop or shims. Up front we measured the caster and found it to be
at 4 degrees, so we added 2 degree steel shims rather than cut the perches
loose & re-welding. To get rid of any front driveshaft issues we instaled a
Hi Angle Driveline CV shaft. The degree shims fixed the caster, the CV
driveshaft fixed the vibration and added a lot of beef. FWIW, I long ago
tossed the track bars front & rear, and the sway bar, so we never installed
any of the associated Rubicon brackets, links, etc.
#85
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Re: angle wedge on Rubicon lift
"Robb S via CarKB.com" <forum@CarKB.com> wrote in message
news:674d254214324dbbaaf130706e93e277@CarKB.com...
> interesting about the wedges in the rear, rubicon didn't supply any wedges
> for the rear. The instructions were very poor in that area. Alls they
> stated were, here are the shimms, use them or not, make sure the pin
> doesn't hit the axle if you don't use them. Oh well.
My RE 4.5" YJ kit came with two sets of 2.5 degree wedges. What Rubicon sent
to pass for instructions didn't mention either set, but it was fairly clear
that the longer shackles would require a caster correction up front, and the
amount of lift would require rear pinion shims and a transfer case drop. (I
have an Atlas II so the SYE kit requirement was not applicable.) Since I had
previously replaced the stock YJ axles with a Dynatrac D44/D60 combination,
we cut the rear spring perches loose and dialed in the pinion without the
xfer case drop or shims. Up front we measured the caster and found it to be
at 4 degrees, so we added 2 degree steel shims rather than cut the perches
loose & re-welding. To get rid of any front driveshaft issues we instaled a
Hi Angle Driveline CV shaft. The degree shims fixed the caster, the CV
driveshaft fixed the vibration and added a lot of beef. FWIW, I long ago
tossed the track bars front & rear, and the sway bar, so we never installed
any of the associated Rubicon brackets, links, etc.
#86
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Re: angle wedge on Rubicon lift
Just your XJ, and all GM, and Ford products:
http://www.----------.com/CVCherokee.pdf And of course Real Jeeps.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:--------------------
Mike Romain wrote:
>
> Really?
>
> I thought the YJ was the same XJ that has a double cardan up front.
>
> I realized after by reading another of his threads that he has longer
> shackles and needs wedges for that abortion.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
http://www.----------.com/CVCherokee.pdf And of course Real Jeeps.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:--------------------
Mike Romain wrote:
>
> Really?
>
> I thought the YJ was the same XJ that has a double cardan up front.
>
> I realized after by reading another of his threads that he has longer
> shackles and needs wedges for that abortion.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
#87
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Re: angle wedge on Rubicon lift
Just your XJ, and all GM, and Ford products:
http://www.----------.com/CVCherokee.pdf And of course Real Jeeps.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:--------------------
Mike Romain wrote:
>
> Really?
>
> I thought the YJ was the same XJ that has a double cardan up front.
>
> I realized after by reading another of his threads that he has longer
> shackles and needs wedges for that abortion.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
http://www.----------.com/CVCherokee.pdf And of course Real Jeeps.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:--------------------
Mike Romain wrote:
>
> Really?
>
> I thought the YJ was the same XJ that has a double cardan up front.
>
> I realized after by reading another of his threads that he has longer
> shackles and needs wedges for that abortion.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
#88
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: angle wedge on Rubicon lift
Just your XJ, and all GM, and Ford products:
http://www.----------.com/CVCherokee.pdf And of course Real Jeeps.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:--------------------
Mike Romain wrote:
>
> Really?
>
> I thought the YJ was the same XJ that has a double cardan up front.
>
> I realized after by reading another of his threads that he has longer
> shackles and needs wedges for that abortion.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
http://www.----------.com/CVCherokee.pdf And of course Real Jeeps.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:--------------------
Mike Romain wrote:
>
> Really?
>
> I thought the YJ was the same XJ that has a double cardan up front.
>
> I realized after by reading another of his threads that he has longer
> shackles and needs wedges for that abortion.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
#89
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: angle wedge on Rubicon lift
Just your XJ, and all GM, and Ford products:
http://www.----------.com/CVCherokee.pdf And of course Real Jeeps.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:--------------------
Mike Romain wrote:
>
> Really?
>
> I thought the YJ was the same XJ that has a double cardan up front.
>
> I realized after by reading another of his threads that he has longer
> shackles and needs wedges for that abortion.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
http://www.----------.com/CVCherokee.pdf And of course Real Jeeps.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:--------------------
Mike Romain wrote:
>
> Really?
>
> I thought the YJ was the same XJ that has a double cardan up front.
>
> I realized after by reading another of his threads that he has longer
> shackles and needs wedges for that abortion.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
#90
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Re: angle wedge on Rubicon lift
To line up the drag link, turn the steering wheel.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
"Robb S via CarKB.com" wrote:
>
> I am going to Bill, thanks for the web post. It is a work in progress. I
> think I assembled the components not in the order proposed by rubicon. I
> am attempting to disassemble the pitman arm last. I am thinking I have
> excessive stress on the assembly which is already difficult to remove.
> Also, the drag link comes with a bracket in the kit. I also, did not
> follow item by item directions. I have the springs tightened up, and the
> drag link isn't lining up. I will loosen everything and redo next weekend,
> I'm about an inch off on the drag link lining up. I might try jacking up
> the passenger side axle side to compensate for a quick re-attachment. I am
> a mechanic/technician by trade but not automotive. I'm a licencened
> electrician and do heating and air conditoning. New to the Jeep World, but
> have common sense and SOME mechanical skills. Bought the jeep for $2000.
> 80,000 miles. It wouldn't move, so I got a deal, new clutch and WallaAA!
> Lots of nickle and dime stuff though. Otherwise, my heart was in a real
> jeep if I hadn't gotten such a good deal
> thanks BILL
>
> --
> Message posted via http://www.carkb.com
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
"Robb S via CarKB.com" wrote:
>
> I am going to Bill, thanks for the web post. It is a work in progress. I
> think I assembled the components not in the order proposed by rubicon. I
> am attempting to disassemble the pitman arm last. I am thinking I have
> excessive stress on the assembly which is already difficult to remove.
> Also, the drag link comes with a bracket in the kit. I also, did not
> follow item by item directions. I have the springs tightened up, and the
> drag link isn't lining up. I will loosen everything and redo next weekend,
> I'm about an inch off on the drag link lining up. I might try jacking up
> the passenger side axle side to compensate for a quick re-attachment. I am
> a mechanic/technician by trade but not automotive. I'm a licencened
> electrician and do heating and air conditoning. New to the Jeep World, but
> have common sense and SOME mechanical skills. Bought the jeep for $2000.
> 80,000 miles. It wouldn't move, so I got a deal, new clutch and WallaAA!
> Lots of nickle and dime stuff though. Otherwise, my heart was in a real
> jeep if I hadn't gotten such a good deal
> thanks BILL
>
> --
> Message posted via http://www.carkb.com