achilles heel clutch hydraulics AGAIN...
#11
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Re: achilles heel clutch hydraulics AGAIN...
As Earl said, Jeep switched to an external slave (and I think it was '91
not '94) Just get all the parts. The parts manuals are available on
line, suppose someone could go look up the part numbers for you. Or just
get a complete setup at the junkyard.
Captain Purple wrote:
> Earl, How do you suppose I (or anyone) is supposed to get this external slave cylinder to operate the
> internal mechanism? Part of my point was I was wondering if anyone had the foresight to invent a retrofit kit
> or a conversion kit, or a real conversion kit that changed the whole thing to for example a cable operation.
>
> CP.
>
>
> "Earle Horton" wrote in message :
>
>>Jeep went to a different bell housing design and external slave cylinder for
>>the 1994 model year. You could probably pick up all the parts fairly
>>cheaply at a recycling yard.
>>
>>Earle
>>
>>"Captain Purple" wrote in message
>>
>>>Well here we go for about the 5th time.
>>>
>>>93 Wrangler 4 cyl.
>>>
>>>The slave cylinder goes "bad". Then the master cylinder "goes bad", and
>>
>>then "leaks internally". Then the
>>
>>>(goofy) plastic "line" between them goes bad. (say wha? a plastic line
>>
>>with quick disconnects on a hydraulic
>>
>>>line???)
>>>
>>>I've been round and round with this every few months and it's always the
>>
>>same. Only this time I happened to be
>>
>>>near a jeep "specialist" who has "fixed " all 3 parts and now that he put
>>
>>a master cylinder in it lasted, oh,
>>
>>>about 10 minutes.
>>>
>>>Over the months I've called dealerships; the last one said the master
>>
>>Cylinder was "obsolete" and if I wanted
>>
>>>to buy an aftermarket one somewhere and bring it in they'd charge 1 hr.
>>
>>labor to put it on.
>>
>>>What kind of insanity is this? Does everyone have this problem? Doesn't
>>
>>anyone make a real cable replacement
>>
>>>for the INANE engineering fiasco that seems to be this hydraulic clutch
>>
>>control?
>>
>>>Capt. Purple
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>
not '94) Just get all the parts. The parts manuals are available on
line, suppose someone could go look up the part numbers for you. Or just
get a complete setup at the junkyard.
Captain Purple wrote:
> Earl, How do you suppose I (or anyone) is supposed to get this external slave cylinder to operate the
> internal mechanism? Part of my point was I was wondering if anyone had the foresight to invent a retrofit kit
> or a conversion kit, or a real conversion kit that changed the whole thing to for example a cable operation.
>
> CP.
>
>
> "Earle Horton" wrote in message :
>
>>Jeep went to a different bell housing design and external slave cylinder for
>>the 1994 model year. You could probably pick up all the parts fairly
>>cheaply at a recycling yard.
>>
>>Earle
>>
>>"Captain Purple" wrote in message
>>
>>>Well here we go for about the 5th time.
>>>
>>>93 Wrangler 4 cyl.
>>>
>>>The slave cylinder goes "bad". Then the master cylinder "goes bad", and
>>
>>then "leaks internally". Then the
>>
>>>(goofy) plastic "line" between them goes bad. (say wha? a plastic line
>>
>>with quick disconnects on a hydraulic
>>
>>>line???)
>>>
>>>I've been round and round with this every few months and it's always the
>>
>>same. Only this time I happened to be
>>
>>>near a jeep "specialist" who has "fixed " all 3 parts and now that he put
>>
>>a master cylinder in it lasted, oh,
>>
>>>about 10 minutes.
>>>
>>>Over the months I've called dealerships; the last one said the master
>>
>>Cylinder was "obsolete" and if I wanted
>>
>>>to buy an aftermarket one somewhere and bring it in they'd charge 1 hr.
>>
>>labor to put it on.
>>
>>>What kind of insanity is this? Does everyone have this problem? Doesn't
>>
>>anyone make a real cable replacement
>>
>>>for the INANE engineering fiasco that seems to be this hydraulic clutch
>>
>>control?
>>
>>>Capt. Purple
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>
#12
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Re: achilles heel clutch hydraulics AGAIN...
As Earl said, Jeep switched to an external slave (and I think it was '91
not '94) Just get all the parts. The parts manuals are available on
line, suppose someone could go look up the part numbers for you. Or just
get a complete setup at the junkyard.
Captain Purple wrote:
> Earl, How do you suppose I (or anyone) is supposed to get this external slave cylinder to operate the
> internal mechanism? Part of my point was I was wondering if anyone had the foresight to invent a retrofit kit
> or a conversion kit, or a real conversion kit that changed the whole thing to for example a cable operation.
>
> CP.
>
>
> "Earle Horton" wrote in message :
>
>>Jeep went to a different bell housing design and external slave cylinder for
>>the 1994 model year. You could probably pick up all the parts fairly
>>cheaply at a recycling yard.
>>
>>Earle
>>
>>"Captain Purple" wrote in message
>>
>>>Well here we go for about the 5th time.
>>>
>>>93 Wrangler 4 cyl.
>>>
>>>The slave cylinder goes "bad". Then the master cylinder "goes bad", and
>>
>>then "leaks internally". Then the
>>
>>>(goofy) plastic "line" between them goes bad. (say wha? a plastic line
>>
>>with quick disconnects on a hydraulic
>>
>>>line???)
>>>
>>>I've been round and round with this every few months and it's always the
>>
>>same. Only this time I happened to be
>>
>>>near a jeep "specialist" who has "fixed " all 3 parts and now that he put
>>
>>a master cylinder in it lasted, oh,
>>
>>>about 10 minutes.
>>>
>>>Over the months I've called dealerships; the last one said the master
>>
>>Cylinder was "obsolete" and if I wanted
>>
>>>to buy an aftermarket one somewhere and bring it in they'd charge 1 hr.
>>
>>labor to put it on.
>>
>>>What kind of insanity is this? Does everyone have this problem? Doesn't
>>
>>anyone make a real cable replacement
>>
>>>for the INANE engineering fiasco that seems to be this hydraulic clutch
>>
>>control?
>>
>>>Capt. Purple
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>
not '94) Just get all the parts. The parts manuals are available on
line, suppose someone could go look up the part numbers for you. Or just
get a complete setup at the junkyard.
Captain Purple wrote:
> Earl, How do you suppose I (or anyone) is supposed to get this external slave cylinder to operate the
> internal mechanism? Part of my point was I was wondering if anyone had the foresight to invent a retrofit kit
> or a conversion kit, or a real conversion kit that changed the whole thing to for example a cable operation.
>
> CP.
>
>
> "Earle Horton" wrote in message :
>
>>Jeep went to a different bell housing design and external slave cylinder for
>>the 1994 model year. You could probably pick up all the parts fairly
>>cheaply at a recycling yard.
>>
>>Earle
>>
>>"Captain Purple" wrote in message
>>
>>>Well here we go for about the 5th time.
>>>
>>>93 Wrangler 4 cyl.
>>>
>>>The slave cylinder goes "bad". Then the master cylinder "goes bad", and
>>
>>then "leaks internally". Then the
>>
>>>(goofy) plastic "line" between them goes bad. (say wha? a plastic line
>>
>>with quick disconnects on a hydraulic
>>
>>>line???)
>>>
>>>I've been round and round with this every few months and it's always the
>>
>>same. Only this time I happened to be
>>
>>>near a jeep "specialist" who has "fixed " all 3 parts and now that he put
>>
>>a master cylinder in it lasted, oh,
>>
>>>about 10 minutes.
>>>
>>>Over the months I've called dealerships; the last one said the master
>>
>>Cylinder was "obsolete" and if I wanted
>>
>>>to buy an aftermarket one somewhere and bring it in they'd charge 1 hr.
>>
>>labor to put it on.
>>
>>>What kind of insanity is this? Does everyone have this problem? Doesn't
>>
>>anyone make a real cable replacement
>>
>>>for the INANE engineering fiasco that seems to be this hydraulic clutch
>>
>>control?
>>
>>>Capt. Purple
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>
#13
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Re: achilles heel clutch hydraulics AGAIN...
As Earl said, Jeep switched to an external slave (and I think it was '91
not '94) Just get all the parts. The parts manuals are available on
line, suppose someone could go look up the part numbers for you. Or just
get a complete setup at the junkyard.
Captain Purple wrote:
> Earl, How do you suppose I (or anyone) is supposed to get this external slave cylinder to operate the
> internal mechanism? Part of my point was I was wondering if anyone had the foresight to invent a retrofit kit
> or a conversion kit, or a real conversion kit that changed the whole thing to for example a cable operation.
>
> CP.
>
>
> "Earle Horton" wrote in message :
>
>>Jeep went to a different bell housing design and external slave cylinder for
>>the 1994 model year. You could probably pick up all the parts fairly
>>cheaply at a recycling yard.
>>
>>Earle
>>
>>"Captain Purple" wrote in message
>>
>>>Well here we go for about the 5th time.
>>>
>>>93 Wrangler 4 cyl.
>>>
>>>The slave cylinder goes "bad". Then the master cylinder "goes bad", and
>>
>>then "leaks internally". Then the
>>
>>>(goofy) plastic "line" between them goes bad. (say wha? a plastic line
>>
>>with quick disconnects on a hydraulic
>>
>>>line???)
>>>
>>>I've been round and round with this every few months and it's always the
>>
>>same. Only this time I happened to be
>>
>>>near a jeep "specialist" who has "fixed " all 3 parts and now that he put
>>
>>a master cylinder in it lasted, oh,
>>
>>>about 10 minutes.
>>>
>>>Over the months I've called dealerships; the last one said the master
>>
>>Cylinder was "obsolete" and if I wanted
>>
>>>to buy an aftermarket one somewhere and bring it in they'd charge 1 hr.
>>
>>labor to put it on.
>>
>>>What kind of insanity is this? Does everyone have this problem? Doesn't
>>
>>anyone make a real cable replacement
>>
>>>for the INANE engineering fiasco that seems to be this hydraulic clutch
>>
>>control?
>>
>>>Capt. Purple
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>
not '94) Just get all the parts. The parts manuals are available on
line, suppose someone could go look up the part numbers for you. Or just
get a complete setup at the junkyard.
Captain Purple wrote:
> Earl, How do you suppose I (or anyone) is supposed to get this external slave cylinder to operate the
> internal mechanism? Part of my point was I was wondering if anyone had the foresight to invent a retrofit kit
> or a conversion kit, or a real conversion kit that changed the whole thing to for example a cable operation.
>
> CP.
>
>
> "Earle Horton" wrote in message :
>
>>Jeep went to a different bell housing design and external slave cylinder for
>>the 1994 model year. You could probably pick up all the parts fairly
>>cheaply at a recycling yard.
>>
>>Earle
>>
>>"Captain Purple" wrote in message
>>
>>>Well here we go for about the 5th time.
>>>
>>>93 Wrangler 4 cyl.
>>>
>>>The slave cylinder goes "bad". Then the master cylinder "goes bad", and
>>
>>then "leaks internally". Then the
>>
>>>(goofy) plastic "line" between them goes bad. (say wha? a plastic line
>>
>>with quick disconnects on a hydraulic
>>
>>>line???)
>>>
>>>I've been round and round with this every few months and it's always the
>>
>>same. Only this time I happened to be
>>
>>>near a jeep "specialist" who has "fixed " all 3 parts and now that he put
>>
>>a master cylinder in it lasted, oh,
>>
>>>about 10 minutes.
>>>
>>>Over the months I've called dealerships; the last one said the master
>>
>>Cylinder was "obsolete" and if I wanted
>>
>>>to buy an aftermarket one somewhere and bring it in they'd charge 1 hr.
>>
>>labor to put it on.
>>
>>>What kind of insanity is this? Does everyone have this problem? Doesn't
>>
>>anyone make a real cable replacement
>>
>>>for the INANE engineering fiasco that seems to be this hydraulic clutch
>>
>>control?
>>
>>>Capt. Purple
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>
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Re: achilles heel clutch hydraulics AGAIN...
Will Honea has actually done it (http://tinyurl.com/h2v33) so he would be
the one to ask. But the "retrofit kit" you mention would be a bell housing,
throwout bearing, slave cylinder and associated parts from a 1994 or 1995 YJ
with the same engine as yours. (Same engine is very important.)
For a cable operation you would still have to change the bell housing,
throwout bearing and actuating lever, in order to gain mechanical access to
the clutch. Since that is true, there wouldn't be much advantage to using a
cable setup. At the truck dealership where I once worked, they fixed any
clutch linkage problem by converting to a cable setup using Mack OEM parts.
If you don't have ready access to the parts and some familiarity with them,
then that is not really a viable option.
Earle
"Captain Purple" <someone@somewhere.com> wrote in message
news:12a82$4416d728$186010f8$15927@KNOLOGY.NET...
> Earl, How do you suppose I (or anyone) is supposed to get this external
slave cylinder to operate the
> internal mechanism? Part of my point was I was wondering if anyone had the
foresight to invent a retrofit kit
> or a conversion kit, or a real conversion kit that changed the whole thing
to for example a cable operation.
>
> CP.
>
>
> "Earle Horton" wrote in message :
> > Jeep went to a different bell housing design and external slave cylinder
for
> > the 1994 model year. You could probably pick up all the parts fairly
> > cheaply at a recycling yard.
> >
> > Earle
> >
> > "Captain Purple" wrote in message
> > > Well here we go for about the 5th time.
> > >
> > > 93 Wrangler 4 cyl.
> > >
> > > The slave cylinder goes "bad". Then the master cylinder "goes bad",
and
> > then "leaks internally". Then the
> > > (goofy) plastic "line" between them goes bad. (say wha? a plastic
line
> > with quick disconnects on a hydraulic
> > > line???)
> > >
> > > I've been round and round with this every few months and it's always
the
> > same. Only this time I happened to be
> > > near a jeep "specialist" who has "fixed " all 3 parts and now that he
put
> > a master cylinder in it lasted, oh,
> > > about 10 minutes.
> > >
> > > Over the months I've called dealerships; the last one said the master
> > Cylinder was "obsolete" and if I wanted
> > > to buy an aftermarket one somewhere and bring it in they'd charge 1
hr.
> > labor to put it on.
> > >
> > > What kind of insanity is this? Does everyone have this problem?
Doesn't
> > anyone make a real cable replacement
> > > for the INANE engineering fiasco that seems to be this hydraulic
clutch
> > control?
> > >
> > > Capt. Purple
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>
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the one to ask. But the "retrofit kit" you mention would be a bell housing,
throwout bearing, slave cylinder and associated parts from a 1994 or 1995 YJ
with the same engine as yours. (Same engine is very important.)
For a cable operation you would still have to change the bell housing,
throwout bearing and actuating lever, in order to gain mechanical access to
the clutch. Since that is true, there wouldn't be much advantage to using a
cable setup. At the truck dealership where I once worked, they fixed any
clutch linkage problem by converting to a cable setup using Mack OEM parts.
If you don't have ready access to the parts and some familiarity with them,
then that is not really a viable option.
Earle
"Captain Purple" <someone@somewhere.com> wrote in message
news:12a82$4416d728$186010f8$15927@KNOLOGY.NET...
> Earl, How do you suppose I (or anyone) is supposed to get this external
slave cylinder to operate the
> internal mechanism? Part of my point was I was wondering if anyone had the
foresight to invent a retrofit kit
> or a conversion kit, or a real conversion kit that changed the whole thing
to for example a cable operation.
>
> CP.
>
>
> "Earle Horton" wrote in message :
> > Jeep went to a different bell housing design and external slave cylinder
for
> > the 1994 model year. You could probably pick up all the parts fairly
> > cheaply at a recycling yard.
> >
> > Earle
> >
> > "Captain Purple" wrote in message
> > > Well here we go for about the 5th time.
> > >
> > > 93 Wrangler 4 cyl.
> > >
> > > The slave cylinder goes "bad". Then the master cylinder "goes bad",
and
> > then "leaks internally". Then the
> > > (goofy) plastic "line" between them goes bad. (say wha? a plastic
line
> > with quick disconnects on a hydraulic
> > > line???)
> > >
> > > I've been round and round with this every few months and it's always
the
> > same. Only this time I happened to be
> > > near a jeep "specialist" who has "fixed " all 3 parts and now that he
put
> > a master cylinder in it lasted, oh,
> > > about 10 minutes.
> > >
> > > Over the months I've called dealerships; the last one said the master
> > Cylinder was "obsolete" and if I wanted
> > > to buy an aftermarket one somewhere and bring it in they'd charge 1
hr.
> > labor to put it on.
> > >
> > > What kind of insanity is this? Does everyone have this problem?
Doesn't
> > anyone make a real cable replacement
> > > for the INANE engineering fiasco that seems to be this hydraulic
clutch
> > control?
> > >
> > > Capt. Purple
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>
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Re: achilles heel clutch hydraulics AGAIN...
Will Honea has actually done it (http://tinyurl.com/h2v33) so he would be
the one to ask. But the "retrofit kit" you mention would be a bell housing,
throwout bearing, slave cylinder and associated parts from a 1994 or 1995 YJ
with the same engine as yours. (Same engine is very important.)
For a cable operation you would still have to change the bell housing,
throwout bearing and actuating lever, in order to gain mechanical access to
the clutch. Since that is true, there wouldn't be much advantage to using a
cable setup. At the truck dealership where I once worked, they fixed any
clutch linkage problem by converting to a cable setup using Mack OEM parts.
If you don't have ready access to the parts and some familiarity with them,
then that is not really a viable option.
Earle
"Captain Purple" <someone@somewhere.com> wrote in message
news:12a82$4416d728$186010f8$15927@KNOLOGY.NET...
> Earl, How do you suppose I (or anyone) is supposed to get this external
slave cylinder to operate the
> internal mechanism? Part of my point was I was wondering if anyone had the
foresight to invent a retrofit kit
> or a conversion kit, or a real conversion kit that changed the whole thing
to for example a cable operation.
>
> CP.
>
>
> "Earle Horton" wrote in message :
> > Jeep went to a different bell housing design and external slave cylinder
for
> > the 1994 model year. You could probably pick up all the parts fairly
> > cheaply at a recycling yard.
> >
> > Earle
> >
> > "Captain Purple" wrote in message
> > > Well here we go for about the 5th time.
> > >
> > > 93 Wrangler 4 cyl.
> > >
> > > The slave cylinder goes "bad". Then the master cylinder "goes bad",
and
> > then "leaks internally". Then the
> > > (goofy) plastic "line" between them goes bad. (say wha? a plastic
line
> > with quick disconnects on a hydraulic
> > > line???)
> > >
> > > I've been round and round with this every few months and it's always
the
> > same. Only this time I happened to be
> > > near a jeep "specialist" who has "fixed " all 3 parts and now that he
put
> > a master cylinder in it lasted, oh,
> > > about 10 minutes.
> > >
> > > Over the months I've called dealerships; the last one said the master
> > Cylinder was "obsolete" and if I wanted
> > > to buy an aftermarket one somewhere and bring it in they'd charge 1
hr.
> > labor to put it on.
> > >
> > > What kind of insanity is this? Does everyone have this problem?
Doesn't
> > anyone make a real cable replacement
> > > for the INANE engineering fiasco that seems to be this hydraulic
clutch
> > control?
> > >
> > > Capt. Purple
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>
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the one to ask. But the "retrofit kit" you mention would be a bell housing,
throwout bearing, slave cylinder and associated parts from a 1994 or 1995 YJ
with the same engine as yours. (Same engine is very important.)
For a cable operation you would still have to change the bell housing,
throwout bearing and actuating lever, in order to gain mechanical access to
the clutch. Since that is true, there wouldn't be much advantage to using a
cable setup. At the truck dealership where I once worked, they fixed any
clutch linkage problem by converting to a cable setup using Mack OEM parts.
If you don't have ready access to the parts and some familiarity with them,
then that is not really a viable option.
Earle
"Captain Purple" <someone@somewhere.com> wrote in message
news:12a82$4416d728$186010f8$15927@KNOLOGY.NET...
> Earl, How do you suppose I (or anyone) is supposed to get this external
slave cylinder to operate the
> internal mechanism? Part of my point was I was wondering if anyone had the
foresight to invent a retrofit kit
> or a conversion kit, or a real conversion kit that changed the whole thing
to for example a cable operation.
>
> CP.
>
>
> "Earle Horton" wrote in message :
> > Jeep went to a different bell housing design and external slave cylinder
for
> > the 1994 model year. You could probably pick up all the parts fairly
> > cheaply at a recycling yard.
> >
> > Earle
> >
> > "Captain Purple" wrote in message
> > > Well here we go for about the 5th time.
> > >
> > > 93 Wrangler 4 cyl.
> > >
> > > The slave cylinder goes "bad". Then the master cylinder "goes bad",
and
> > then "leaks internally". Then the
> > > (goofy) plastic "line" between them goes bad. (say wha? a plastic
line
> > with quick disconnects on a hydraulic
> > > line???)
> > >
> > > I've been round and round with this every few months and it's always
the
> > same. Only this time I happened to be
> > > near a jeep "specialist" who has "fixed " all 3 parts and now that he
put
> > a master cylinder in it lasted, oh,
> > > about 10 minutes.
> > >
> > > Over the months I've called dealerships; the last one said the master
> > Cylinder was "obsolete" and if I wanted
> > > to buy an aftermarket one somewhere and bring it in they'd charge 1
hr.
> > labor to put it on.
> > >
> > > What kind of insanity is this? Does everyone have this problem?
Doesn't
> > anyone make a real cable replacement
> > > for the INANE engineering fiasco that seems to be this hydraulic
clutch
> > control?
> > >
> > > Capt. Purple
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>
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Re: achilles heel clutch hydraulics AGAIN...
Will Honea has actually done it (http://tinyurl.com/h2v33) so he would be
the one to ask. But the "retrofit kit" you mention would be a bell housing,
throwout bearing, slave cylinder and associated parts from a 1994 or 1995 YJ
with the same engine as yours. (Same engine is very important.)
For a cable operation you would still have to change the bell housing,
throwout bearing and actuating lever, in order to gain mechanical access to
the clutch. Since that is true, there wouldn't be much advantage to using a
cable setup. At the truck dealership where I once worked, they fixed any
clutch linkage problem by converting to a cable setup using Mack OEM parts.
If you don't have ready access to the parts and some familiarity with them,
then that is not really a viable option.
Earle
"Captain Purple" <someone@somewhere.com> wrote in message
news:12a82$4416d728$186010f8$15927@KNOLOGY.NET...
> Earl, How do you suppose I (or anyone) is supposed to get this external
slave cylinder to operate the
> internal mechanism? Part of my point was I was wondering if anyone had the
foresight to invent a retrofit kit
> or a conversion kit, or a real conversion kit that changed the whole thing
to for example a cable operation.
>
> CP.
>
>
> "Earle Horton" wrote in message :
> > Jeep went to a different bell housing design and external slave cylinder
for
> > the 1994 model year. You could probably pick up all the parts fairly
> > cheaply at a recycling yard.
> >
> > Earle
> >
> > "Captain Purple" wrote in message
> > > Well here we go for about the 5th time.
> > >
> > > 93 Wrangler 4 cyl.
> > >
> > > The slave cylinder goes "bad". Then the master cylinder "goes bad",
and
> > then "leaks internally". Then the
> > > (goofy) plastic "line" between them goes bad. (say wha? a plastic
line
> > with quick disconnects on a hydraulic
> > > line???)
> > >
> > > I've been round and round with this every few months and it's always
the
> > same. Only this time I happened to be
> > > near a jeep "specialist" who has "fixed " all 3 parts and now that he
put
> > a master cylinder in it lasted, oh,
> > > about 10 minutes.
> > >
> > > Over the months I've called dealerships; the last one said the master
> > Cylinder was "obsolete" and if I wanted
> > > to buy an aftermarket one somewhere and bring it in they'd charge 1
hr.
> > labor to put it on.
> > >
> > > What kind of insanity is this? Does everyone have this problem?
Doesn't
> > anyone make a real cable replacement
> > > for the INANE engineering fiasco that seems to be this hydraulic
clutch
> > control?
> > >
> > > Capt. Purple
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>
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the one to ask. But the "retrofit kit" you mention would be a bell housing,
throwout bearing, slave cylinder and associated parts from a 1994 or 1995 YJ
with the same engine as yours. (Same engine is very important.)
For a cable operation you would still have to change the bell housing,
throwout bearing and actuating lever, in order to gain mechanical access to
the clutch. Since that is true, there wouldn't be much advantage to using a
cable setup. At the truck dealership where I once worked, they fixed any
clutch linkage problem by converting to a cable setup using Mack OEM parts.
If you don't have ready access to the parts and some familiarity with them,
then that is not really a viable option.
Earle
"Captain Purple" <someone@somewhere.com> wrote in message
news:12a82$4416d728$186010f8$15927@KNOLOGY.NET...
> Earl, How do you suppose I (or anyone) is supposed to get this external
slave cylinder to operate the
> internal mechanism? Part of my point was I was wondering if anyone had the
foresight to invent a retrofit kit
> or a conversion kit, or a real conversion kit that changed the whole thing
to for example a cable operation.
>
> CP.
>
>
> "Earle Horton" wrote in message :
> > Jeep went to a different bell housing design and external slave cylinder
for
> > the 1994 model year. You could probably pick up all the parts fairly
> > cheaply at a recycling yard.
> >
> > Earle
> >
> > "Captain Purple" wrote in message
> > > Well here we go for about the 5th time.
> > >
> > > 93 Wrangler 4 cyl.
> > >
> > > The slave cylinder goes "bad". Then the master cylinder "goes bad",
and
> > then "leaks internally". Then the
> > > (goofy) plastic "line" between them goes bad. (say wha? a plastic
line
> > with quick disconnects on a hydraulic
> > > line???)
> > >
> > > I've been round and round with this every few months and it's always
the
> > same. Only this time I happened to be
> > > near a jeep "specialist" who has "fixed " all 3 parts and now that he
put
> > a master cylinder in it lasted, oh,
> > > about 10 minutes.
> > >
> > > Over the months I've called dealerships; the last one said the master
> > Cylinder was "obsolete" and if I wanted
> > > to buy an aftermarket one somewhere and bring it in they'd charge 1
hr.
> > labor to put it on.
> > >
> > > What kind of insanity is this? Does everyone have this problem?
Doesn't
> > anyone make a real cable replacement
> > > for the INANE engineering fiasco that seems to be this hydraulic
clutch
> > control?
> > >
> > > Capt. Purple
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>
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Re: achilles heel clutch hydraulics AGAIN...
Will Honea has actually done it (http://tinyurl.com/h2v33) so he would be
the one to ask. But the "retrofit kit" you mention would be a bell housing,
throwout bearing, slave cylinder and associated parts from a 1994 or 1995 YJ
with the same engine as yours. (Same engine is very important.)
For a cable operation you would still have to change the bell housing,
throwout bearing and actuating lever, in order to gain mechanical access to
the clutch. Since that is true, there wouldn't be much advantage to using a
cable setup. At the truck dealership where I once worked, they fixed any
clutch linkage problem by converting to a cable setup using Mack OEM parts.
If you don't have ready access to the parts and some familiarity with them,
then that is not really a viable option.
Earle
"Captain Purple" <someone@somewhere.com> wrote in message
news:12a82$4416d728$186010f8$15927@KNOLOGY.NET...
> Earl, How do you suppose I (or anyone) is supposed to get this external
slave cylinder to operate the
> internal mechanism? Part of my point was I was wondering if anyone had the
foresight to invent a retrofit kit
> or a conversion kit, or a real conversion kit that changed the whole thing
to for example a cable operation.
>
> CP.
>
>
> "Earle Horton" wrote in message :
> > Jeep went to a different bell housing design and external slave cylinder
for
> > the 1994 model year. You could probably pick up all the parts fairly
> > cheaply at a recycling yard.
> >
> > Earle
> >
> > "Captain Purple" wrote in message
> > > Well here we go for about the 5th time.
> > >
> > > 93 Wrangler 4 cyl.
> > >
> > > The slave cylinder goes "bad". Then the master cylinder "goes bad",
and
> > then "leaks internally". Then the
> > > (goofy) plastic "line" between them goes bad. (say wha? a plastic
line
> > with quick disconnects on a hydraulic
> > > line???)
> > >
> > > I've been round and round with this every few months and it's always
the
> > same. Only this time I happened to be
> > > near a jeep "specialist" who has "fixed " all 3 parts and now that he
put
> > a master cylinder in it lasted, oh,
> > > about 10 minutes.
> > >
> > > Over the months I've called dealerships; the last one said the master
> > Cylinder was "obsolete" and if I wanted
> > > to buy an aftermarket one somewhere and bring it in they'd charge 1
hr.
> > labor to put it on.
> > >
> > > What kind of insanity is this? Does everyone have this problem?
Doesn't
> > anyone make a real cable replacement
> > > for the INANE engineering fiasco that seems to be this hydraulic
clutch
> > control?
> > >
> > > Capt. Purple
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>
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the one to ask. But the "retrofit kit" you mention would be a bell housing,
throwout bearing, slave cylinder and associated parts from a 1994 or 1995 YJ
with the same engine as yours. (Same engine is very important.)
For a cable operation you would still have to change the bell housing,
throwout bearing and actuating lever, in order to gain mechanical access to
the clutch. Since that is true, there wouldn't be much advantage to using a
cable setup. At the truck dealership where I once worked, they fixed any
clutch linkage problem by converting to a cable setup using Mack OEM parts.
If you don't have ready access to the parts and some familiarity with them,
then that is not really a viable option.
Earle
"Captain Purple" <someone@somewhere.com> wrote in message
news:12a82$4416d728$186010f8$15927@KNOLOGY.NET...
> Earl, How do you suppose I (or anyone) is supposed to get this external
slave cylinder to operate the
> internal mechanism? Part of my point was I was wondering if anyone had the
foresight to invent a retrofit kit
> or a conversion kit, or a real conversion kit that changed the whole thing
to for example a cable operation.
>
> CP.
>
>
> "Earle Horton" wrote in message :
> > Jeep went to a different bell housing design and external slave cylinder
for
> > the 1994 model year. You could probably pick up all the parts fairly
> > cheaply at a recycling yard.
> >
> > Earle
> >
> > "Captain Purple" wrote in message
> > > Well here we go for about the 5th time.
> > >
> > > 93 Wrangler 4 cyl.
> > >
> > > The slave cylinder goes "bad". Then the master cylinder "goes bad",
and
> > then "leaks internally". Then the
> > > (goofy) plastic "line" between them goes bad. (say wha? a plastic
line
> > with quick disconnects on a hydraulic
> > > line???)
> > >
> > > I've been round and round with this every few months and it's always
the
> > same. Only this time I happened to be
> > > near a jeep "specialist" who has "fixed " all 3 parts and now that he
put
> > a master cylinder in it lasted, oh,
> > > about 10 minutes.
> > >
> > > Over the months I've called dealerships; the last one said the master
> > Cylinder was "obsolete" and if I wanted
> > > to buy an aftermarket one somewhere and bring it in they'd charge 1
hr.
> > labor to put it on.
> > >
> > > What kind of insanity is this? Does everyone have this problem?
Doesn't
> > anyone make a real cable replacement
> > > for the INANE engineering fiasco that seems to be this hydraulic
clutch
> > control?
> > >
> > > Capt. Purple
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>
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Re: achilles heel clutch hydraulics AGAIN...
Earl
Well that DOES make sense.
But back to asking everyone abbout their trials and tribulations with this mess. What does everyone do?
Surely I can't be the only doofus with a problem like this...?
CP
"Earle Horton" <nurse--NOSPAM--busters@msn.com> wrote in message
news:4416ea2d$0$22963$6d36acad@titian.nntpserver.c om...
> Will Honea has actually done it (http://tinyurl.com/h2v33) so he would be
> the one to ask. But the "retrofit kit" you mention would be a bell housing,
> throwout bearing, slave cylinder and associated parts from a 1994 or 1995 YJ
> with the same engine as yours. (Same engine is very important.)
>
> For a cable operation you would still have to change the bell housing,
> throwout bearing and actuating lever, in order to gain mechanical access to
> the clutch. Since that is true, there wouldn't be much advantage to using a
> cable setup. At the truck dealership where I once worked, they fixed any
> clutch linkage problem by converting to a cable setup using Mack OEM parts.
> If you don't have ready access to the parts and some familiarity with them,
> then that is not really a viable option.
>
> Earle
>
> "Captain Purple" <someone@somewhere.com> wrote in message
> news:12a82$4416d728$186010f8$15927@KNOLOGY.NET...
> > Earl, How do you suppose I (or anyone) is supposed to get this external
> slave cylinder to operate the
> > internal mechanism? Part of my point was I was wondering if anyone had the
> foresight to invent a retrofit kit
> > or a conversion kit, or a real conversion kit that changed the whole thing
> to for example a cable operation.
> >
> > CP.
> >
> >
> > "Earle Horton" wrote in message :
> > > Jeep went to a different bell housing design and external slave cylinder
> for
> > > the 1994 model year. You could probably pick up all the parts fairly
> > > cheaply at a recycling yard.
> > >
> > > Earle
> > >
> > > "Captain Purple" wrote in message
> > > > Well here we go for about the 5th time.
> > > >
> > > > 93 Wrangler 4 cyl.
> > > >
> > > > The slave cylinder goes "bad". Then the master cylinder "goes bad",
> and
> > > then "leaks internally". Then the
> > > > (goofy) plastic "line" between them goes bad. (say wha? a plastic
> line
> > > with quick disconnects on a hydraulic
> > > > line???)
> > > >
> > > > I've been round and round with this every few months and it's always
> the
> > > same. Only this time I happened to be
> > > > near a jeep "specialist" who has "fixed " all 3 parts and now that he
> put
> > > a master cylinder in it lasted, oh,
> > > > about 10 minutes.
> > > >
> > > > Over the months I've called dealerships; the last one said the master
> > > Cylinder was "obsolete" and if I wanted
> > > > to buy an aftermarket one somewhere and bring it in they'd charge 1
> hr.
> > > labor to put it on.
> > > >
> > > > What kind of insanity is this? Does everyone have this problem?
> Doesn't
> > > anyone make a real cable replacement
> > > > for the INANE engineering fiasco that seems to be this hydraulic
> clutch
> > > control?
> > > >
> > > > Capt. Purple
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>
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Well that DOES make sense.
But back to asking everyone abbout their trials and tribulations with this mess. What does everyone do?
Surely I can't be the only doofus with a problem like this...?
CP
"Earle Horton" <nurse--NOSPAM--busters@msn.com> wrote in message
news:4416ea2d$0$22963$6d36acad@titian.nntpserver.c om...
> Will Honea has actually done it (http://tinyurl.com/h2v33) so he would be
> the one to ask. But the "retrofit kit" you mention would be a bell housing,
> throwout bearing, slave cylinder and associated parts from a 1994 or 1995 YJ
> with the same engine as yours. (Same engine is very important.)
>
> For a cable operation you would still have to change the bell housing,
> throwout bearing and actuating lever, in order to gain mechanical access to
> the clutch. Since that is true, there wouldn't be much advantage to using a
> cable setup. At the truck dealership where I once worked, they fixed any
> clutch linkage problem by converting to a cable setup using Mack OEM parts.
> If you don't have ready access to the parts and some familiarity with them,
> then that is not really a viable option.
>
> Earle
>
> "Captain Purple" <someone@somewhere.com> wrote in message
> news:12a82$4416d728$186010f8$15927@KNOLOGY.NET...
> > Earl, How do you suppose I (or anyone) is supposed to get this external
> slave cylinder to operate the
> > internal mechanism? Part of my point was I was wondering if anyone had the
> foresight to invent a retrofit kit
> > or a conversion kit, or a real conversion kit that changed the whole thing
> to for example a cable operation.
> >
> > CP.
> >
> >
> > "Earle Horton" wrote in message :
> > > Jeep went to a different bell housing design and external slave cylinder
> for
> > > the 1994 model year. You could probably pick up all the parts fairly
> > > cheaply at a recycling yard.
> > >
> > > Earle
> > >
> > > "Captain Purple" wrote in message
> > > > Well here we go for about the 5th time.
> > > >
> > > > 93 Wrangler 4 cyl.
> > > >
> > > > The slave cylinder goes "bad". Then the master cylinder "goes bad",
> and
> > > then "leaks internally". Then the
> > > > (goofy) plastic "line" between them goes bad. (say wha? a plastic
> line
> > > with quick disconnects on a hydraulic
> > > > line???)
> > > >
> > > > I've been round and round with this every few months and it's always
> the
> > > same. Only this time I happened to be
> > > > near a jeep "specialist" who has "fixed " all 3 parts and now that he
> put
> > > a master cylinder in it lasted, oh,
> > > > about 10 minutes.
> > > >
> > > > Over the months I've called dealerships; the last one said the master
> > > Cylinder was "obsolete" and if I wanted
> > > > to buy an aftermarket one somewhere and bring it in they'd charge 1
> hr.
> > > labor to put it on.
> > > >
> > > > What kind of insanity is this? Does everyone have this problem?
> Doesn't
> > > anyone make a real cable replacement
> > > > for the INANE engineering fiasco that seems to be this hydraulic
> clutch
> > > control?
> > > >
> > > > Capt. Purple
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>
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Re: achilles heel clutch hydraulics AGAIN...
Earl
Well that DOES make sense.
But back to asking everyone abbout their trials and tribulations with this mess. What does everyone do?
Surely I can't be the only doofus with a problem like this...?
CP
"Earle Horton" <nurse--NOSPAM--busters@msn.com> wrote in message
news:4416ea2d$0$22963$6d36acad@titian.nntpserver.c om...
> Will Honea has actually done it (http://tinyurl.com/h2v33) so he would be
> the one to ask. But the "retrofit kit" you mention would be a bell housing,
> throwout bearing, slave cylinder and associated parts from a 1994 or 1995 YJ
> with the same engine as yours. (Same engine is very important.)
>
> For a cable operation you would still have to change the bell housing,
> throwout bearing and actuating lever, in order to gain mechanical access to
> the clutch. Since that is true, there wouldn't be much advantage to using a
> cable setup. At the truck dealership where I once worked, they fixed any
> clutch linkage problem by converting to a cable setup using Mack OEM parts.
> If you don't have ready access to the parts and some familiarity with them,
> then that is not really a viable option.
>
> Earle
>
> "Captain Purple" <someone@somewhere.com> wrote in message
> news:12a82$4416d728$186010f8$15927@KNOLOGY.NET...
> > Earl, How do you suppose I (or anyone) is supposed to get this external
> slave cylinder to operate the
> > internal mechanism? Part of my point was I was wondering if anyone had the
> foresight to invent a retrofit kit
> > or a conversion kit, or a real conversion kit that changed the whole thing
> to for example a cable operation.
> >
> > CP.
> >
> >
> > "Earle Horton" wrote in message :
> > > Jeep went to a different bell housing design and external slave cylinder
> for
> > > the 1994 model year. You could probably pick up all the parts fairly
> > > cheaply at a recycling yard.
> > >
> > > Earle
> > >
> > > "Captain Purple" wrote in message
> > > > Well here we go for about the 5th time.
> > > >
> > > > 93 Wrangler 4 cyl.
> > > >
> > > > The slave cylinder goes "bad". Then the master cylinder "goes bad",
> and
> > > then "leaks internally". Then the
> > > > (goofy) plastic "line" between them goes bad. (say wha? a plastic
> line
> > > with quick disconnects on a hydraulic
> > > > line???)
> > > >
> > > > I've been round and round with this every few months and it's always
> the
> > > same. Only this time I happened to be
> > > > near a jeep "specialist" who has "fixed " all 3 parts and now that he
> put
> > > a master cylinder in it lasted, oh,
> > > > about 10 minutes.
> > > >
> > > > Over the months I've called dealerships; the last one said the master
> > > Cylinder was "obsolete" and if I wanted
> > > > to buy an aftermarket one somewhere and bring it in they'd charge 1
> hr.
> > > labor to put it on.
> > > >
> > > > What kind of insanity is this? Does everyone have this problem?
> Doesn't
> > > anyone make a real cable replacement
> > > > for the INANE engineering fiasco that seems to be this hydraulic
> clutch
> > > control?
> > > >
> > > > Capt. Purple
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>
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Well that DOES make sense.
But back to asking everyone abbout their trials and tribulations with this mess. What does everyone do?
Surely I can't be the only doofus with a problem like this...?
CP
"Earle Horton" <nurse--NOSPAM--busters@msn.com> wrote in message
news:4416ea2d$0$22963$6d36acad@titian.nntpserver.c om...
> Will Honea has actually done it (http://tinyurl.com/h2v33) so he would be
> the one to ask. But the "retrofit kit" you mention would be a bell housing,
> throwout bearing, slave cylinder and associated parts from a 1994 or 1995 YJ
> with the same engine as yours. (Same engine is very important.)
>
> For a cable operation you would still have to change the bell housing,
> throwout bearing and actuating lever, in order to gain mechanical access to
> the clutch. Since that is true, there wouldn't be much advantage to using a
> cable setup. At the truck dealership where I once worked, they fixed any
> clutch linkage problem by converting to a cable setup using Mack OEM parts.
> If you don't have ready access to the parts and some familiarity with them,
> then that is not really a viable option.
>
> Earle
>
> "Captain Purple" <someone@somewhere.com> wrote in message
> news:12a82$4416d728$186010f8$15927@KNOLOGY.NET...
> > Earl, How do you suppose I (or anyone) is supposed to get this external
> slave cylinder to operate the
> > internal mechanism? Part of my point was I was wondering if anyone had the
> foresight to invent a retrofit kit
> > or a conversion kit, or a real conversion kit that changed the whole thing
> to for example a cable operation.
> >
> > CP.
> >
> >
> > "Earle Horton" wrote in message :
> > > Jeep went to a different bell housing design and external slave cylinder
> for
> > > the 1994 model year. You could probably pick up all the parts fairly
> > > cheaply at a recycling yard.
> > >
> > > Earle
> > >
> > > "Captain Purple" wrote in message
> > > > Well here we go for about the 5th time.
> > > >
> > > > 93 Wrangler 4 cyl.
> > > >
> > > > The slave cylinder goes "bad". Then the master cylinder "goes bad",
> and
> > > then "leaks internally". Then the
> > > > (goofy) plastic "line" between them goes bad. (say wha? a plastic
> line
> > > with quick disconnects on a hydraulic
> > > > line???)
> > > >
> > > > I've been round and round with this every few months and it's always
> the
> > > same. Only this time I happened to be
> > > > near a jeep "specialist" who has "fixed " all 3 parts and now that he
> put
> > > a master cylinder in it lasted, oh,
> > > > about 10 minutes.
> > > >
> > > > Over the months I've called dealerships; the last one said the master
> > > Cylinder was "obsolete" and if I wanted
> > > > to buy an aftermarket one somewhere and bring it in they'd charge 1
> hr.
> > > labor to put it on.
> > > >
> > > > What kind of insanity is this? Does everyone have this problem?
> Doesn't
> > > anyone make a real cable replacement
> > > > for the INANE engineering fiasco that seems to be this hydraulic
> clutch
> > > control?
> > > >
> > > > Capt. Purple
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>
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Re: achilles heel clutch hydraulics AGAIN...
Earl
Well that DOES make sense.
But back to asking everyone abbout their trials and tribulations with this mess. What does everyone do?
Surely I can't be the only doofus with a problem like this...?
CP
"Earle Horton" <nurse--NOSPAM--busters@msn.com> wrote in message
news:4416ea2d$0$22963$6d36acad@titian.nntpserver.c om...
> Will Honea has actually done it (http://tinyurl.com/h2v33) so he would be
> the one to ask. But the "retrofit kit" you mention would be a bell housing,
> throwout bearing, slave cylinder and associated parts from a 1994 or 1995 YJ
> with the same engine as yours. (Same engine is very important.)
>
> For a cable operation you would still have to change the bell housing,
> throwout bearing and actuating lever, in order to gain mechanical access to
> the clutch. Since that is true, there wouldn't be much advantage to using a
> cable setup. At the truck dealership where I once worked, they fixed any
> clutch linkage problem by converting to a cable setup using Mack OEM parts.
> If you don't have ready access to the parts and some familiarity with them,
> then that is not really a viable option.
>
> Earle
>
> "Captain Purple" <someone@somewhere.com> wrote in message
> news:12a82$4416d728$186010f8$15927@KNOLOGY.NET...
> > Earl, How do you suppose I (or anyone) is supposed to get this external
> slave cylinder to operate the
> > internal mechanism? Part of my point was I was wondering if anyone had the
> foresight to invent a retrofit kit
> > or a conversion kit, or a real conversion kit that changed the whole thing
> to for example a cable operation.
> >
> > CP.
> >
> >
> > "Earle Horton" wrote in message :
> > > Jeep went to a different bell housing design and external slave cylinder
> for
> > > the 1994 model year. You could probably pick up all the parts fairly
> > > cheaply at a recycling yard.
> > >
> > > Earle
> > >
> > > "Captain Purple" wrote in message
> > > > Well here we go for about the 5th time.
> > > >
> > > > 93 Wrangler 4 cyl.
> > > >
> > > > The slave cylinder goes "bad". Then the master cylinder "goes bad",
> and
> > > then "leaks internally". Then the
> > > > (goofy) plastic "line" between them goes bad. (say wha? a plastic
> line
> > > with quick disconnects on a hydraulic
> > > > line???)
> > > >
> > > > I've been round and round with this every few months and it's always
> the
> > > same. Only this time I happened to be
> > > > near a jeep "specialist" who has "fixed " all 3 parts and now that he
> put
> > > a master cylinder in it lasted, oh,
> > > > about 10 minutes.
> > > >
> > > > Over the months I've called dealerships; the last one said the master
> > > Cylinder was "obsolete" and if I wanted
> > > > to buy an aftermarket one somewhere and bring it in they'd charge 1
> hr.
> > > labor to put it on.
> > > >
> > > > What kind of insanity is this? Does everyone have this problem?
> Doesn't
> > > anyone make a real cable replacement
> > > > for the INANE engineering fiasco that seems to be this hydraulic
> clutch
> > > control?
> > > >
> > > > Capt. Purple
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>
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Well that DOES make sense.
But back to asking everyone abbout their trials and tribulations with this mess. What does everyone do?
Surely I can't be the only doofus with a problem like this...?
CP
"Earle Horton" <nurse--NOSPAM--busters@msn.com> wrote in message
news:4416ea2d$0$22963$6d36acad@titian.nntpserver.c om...
> Will Honea has actually done it (http://tinyurl.com/h2v33) so he would be
> the one to ask. But the "retrofit kit" you mention would be a bell housing,
> throwout bearing, slave cylinder and associated parts from a 1994 or 1995 YJ
> with the same engine as yours. (Same engine is very important.)
>
> For a cable operation you would still have to change the bell housing,
> throwout bearing and actuating lever, in order to gain mechanical access to
> the clutch. Since that is true, there wouldn't be much advantage to using a
> cable setup. At the truck dealership where I once worked, they fixed any
> clutch linkage problem by converting to a cable setup using Mack OEM parts.
> If you don't have ready access to the parts and some familiarity with them,
> then that is not really a viable option.
>
> Earle
>
> "Captain Purple" <someone@somewhere.com> wrote in message
> news:12a82$4416d728$186010f8$15927@KNOLOGY.NET...
> > Earl, How do you suppose I (or anyone) is supposed to get this external
> slave cylinder to operate the
> > internal mechanism? Part of my point was I was wondering if anyone had the
> foresight to invent a retrofit kit
> > or a conversion kit, or a real conversion kit that changed the whole thing
> to for example a cable operation.
> >
> > CP.
> >
> >
> > "Earle Horton" wrote in message :
> > > Jeep went to a different bell housing design and external slave cylinder
> for
> > > the 1994 model year. You could probably pick up all the parts fairly
> > > cheaply at a recycling yard.
> > >
> > > Earle
> > >
> > > "Captain Purple" wrote in message
> > > > Well here we go for about the 5th time.
> > > >
> > > > 93 Wrangler 4 cyl.
> > > >
> > > > The slave cylinder goes "bad". Then the master cylinder "goes bad",
> and
> > > then "leaks internally". Then the
> > > > (goofy) plastic "line" between them goes bad. (say wha? a plastic
> line
> > > with quick disconnects on a hydraulic
> > > > line???)
> > > >
> > > > I've been round and round with this every few months and it's always
> the
> > > same. Only this time I happened to be
> > > > near a jeep "specialist" who has "fixed " all 3 parts and now that he
> put
> > > a master cylinder in it lasted, oh,
> > > > about 10 minutes.
> > > >
> > > > Over the months I've called dealerships; the last one said the master
> > > Cylinder was "obsolete" and if I wanted
> > > > to buy an aftermarket one somewhere and bring it in they'd charge 1
> hr.
> > > labor to put it on.
> > > >
> > > > What kind of insanity is this? Does everyone have this problem?
> Doesn't
> > > anyone make a real cable replacement
> > > > for the INANE engineering fiasco that seems to be this hydraulic
> clutch
> > > control?
> > > >
> > > > Capt. Purple
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>
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