achilles heel clutch hydraulics AGAIN...
 

Well here we go for about the 5th time.

93 Wrangler 4 cyl.

The slave cylinder goes "bad". Then the master cylinder "goes bad", and then "leaks internally". Then the
(goofy) plastic "line" between them goes bad. (say wha? a plastic line with quick disconnects on a hydraulic
line???)

I've been round and round with this every few months and it's always the same. Only this time I happened to be
near a jeep "specialist" who has "fixed " all 3 parts and now that he put a master cylinder in it lasted, oh,
about 10 minutes.

Over the months I've called dealerships; the last one said the master Cylinder was "obsolete" and if I wanted
to buy an aftermarket one somewhere and bring it in they'd charge 1 hr. labor to put it on.

What kind of insanity is this? Does everyone have this problem? Doesn't anyone make a real cable replacement
for the INANE engineering fiasco that seems to be this hydraulic clutch control?

Capt. Purple

Re: achilles heel clutch hydraulics AGAIN...
 

Jeep went to a different bell housing design and external slave cylinder for
the 1994 model year. You could probably pick up all the parts fairly
cheaply at a recycling yard.

Earle

"Captain Purple" <someone@somewhere.com> wrote in message
news:c11be$44165fd8$186010f8$14417@KNOLOGY.NET...
> Well here we go for about the 5th time.
>
> 93 Wrangler 4 cyl.
>
> The slave cylinder goes "bad". Then the master cylinder "goes bad", and
then "leaks internally". Then the
> (goofy) plastic "line" between them goes bad. (say wha? a plastic line
with quick disconnects on a hydraulic
> line???)
>
> I've been round and round with this every few months and it's always the
same. Only this time I happened to be
> near a jeep "specialist" who has "fixed " all 3 parts and now that he put
a master cylinder in it lasted, oh,
> about 10 minutes.
>
> Over the months I've called dealerships; the last one said the master
Cylinder was "obsolete" and if I wanted
> to buy an aftermarket one somewhere and bring it in they'd charge 1 hr.
labor to put it on.
>
> What kind of insanity is this? Does everyone have this problem? Doesn't
anyone make a real cable replacement
> for the INANE engineering fiasco that seems to be this hydraulic clutch
control?
>
> Capt. Purple
>
>

Re: achilles heel clutch hydraulics AGAIN...
 

Jeep went to a different bell housing design and external slave cylinder for
the 1994 model year. You could probably pick up all the parts fairly
cheaply at a recycling yard.

Earle

"Captain Purple" <someone@somewhere.com> wrote in message
news:c11be$44165fd8$186010f8$14417@KNOLOGY.NET...
> Well here we go for about the 5th time.
>
> 93 Wrangler 4 cyl.
>
> The slave cylinder goes "bad". Then the master cylinder "goes bad", and
then "leaks internally". Then the
> (goofy) plastic "line" between them goes bad. (say wha? a plastic line
with quick disconnects on a hydraulic
> line???)
>
> I've been round and round with this every few months and it's always the
same. Only this time I happened to be
> near a jeep "specialist" who has "fixed " all 3 parts and now that he put
a master cylinder in it lasted, oh,
> about 10 minutes.
>
> Over the months I've called dealerships; the last one said the master
Cylinder was "obsolete" and if I wanted
> to buy an aftermarket one somewhere and bring it in they'd charge 1 hr.
labor to put it on.
>
> What kind of insanity is this? Does everyone have this problem? Doesn't
anyone make a real cable replacement
> for the INANE engineering fiasco that seems to be this hydraulic clutch
control?
>
> Capt. Purple
>
>

Re: achilles heel clutch hydraulics AGAIN...
 

Jeep went to a different bell housing design and external slave cylinder for
the 1994 model year. You could probably pick up all the parts fairly
cheaply at a recycling yard.

Earle

"Captain Purple" <someone@somewhere.com> wrote in message
news:c11be$44165fd8$186010f8$14417@KNOLOGY.NET...
> Well here we go for about the 5th time.
>
> 93 Wrangler 4 cyl.
>
> The slave cylinder goes "bad". Then the master cylinder "goes bad", and
then "leaks internally". Then the
> (goofy) plastic "line" between them goes bad. (say wha? a plastic line
with quick disconnects on a hydraulic
> line???)
>
> I've been round and round with this every few months and it's always the
same. Only this time I happened to be
> near a jeep "specialist" who has "fixed " all 3 parts and now that he put
a master cylinder in it lasted, oh,
> about 10 minutes.
>
> Over the months I've called dealerships; the last one said the master
Cylinder was "obsolete" and if I wanted
> to buy an aftermarket one somewhere and bring it in they'd charge 1 hr.
labor to put it on.
>
> What kind of insanity is this? Does everyone have this problem? Doesn't
anyone make a real cable replacement
> for the INANE engineering fiasco that seems to be this hydraulic clutch
control?
>
> Capt. Purple
>
>

Re: achilles heel clutch hydraulics AGAIN...
 

Jeep went to a different bell housing design and external slave cylinder for
the 1994 model year. You could probably pick up all the parts fairly
cheaply at a recycling yard.

Earle

"Captain Purple" <someone@somewhere.com> wrote in message
news:c11be$44165fd8$186010f8$14417@KNOLOGY.NET...
> Well here we go for about the 5th time.
>
> 93 Wrangler 4 cyl.
>
> The slave cylinder goes "bad". Then the master cylinder "goes bad", and
then "leaks internally". Then the
> (goofy) plastic "line" between them goes bad. (say wha? a plastic line
with quick disconnects on a hydraulic
> line???)
>
> I've been round and round with this every few months and it's always the
same. Only this time I happened to be
> near a jeep "specialist" who has "fixed " all 3 parts and now that he put
a master cylinder in it lasted, oh,
> about 10 minutes.
>
> Over the months I've called dealerships; the last one said the master
Cylinder was "obsolete" and if I wanted
> to buy an aftermarket one somewhere and bring it in they'd charge 1 hr.
labor to put it on.
>
> What kind of insanity is this? Does everyone have this problem? Doesn't
anyone make a real cable replacement
> for the INANE engineering fiasco that seems to be this hydraulic clutch
control?
>
> Capt. Purple
>
>

Re: achilles heel clutch hydraulics AGAIN...
 

Earl, How do you suppose I (or anyone) is supposed to get this external slave cylinder to operate the
internal mechanism? Part of my point was I was wondering if anyone had the foresight to invent a retrofit kit
or a conversion kit, or a real conversion kit that changed the whole thing to for example a cable operation.

CP.


"Earle Horton" wrote in message :
> Jeep went to a different bell housing design and external slave cylinder for
> the 1994 model year. You could probably pick up all the parts fairly
> cheaply at a recycling yard.
>
> Earle
>
> "Captain Purple" wrote in message
> > Well here we go for about the 5th time.
> >
> > 93 Wrangler 4 cyl.
> >
> > The slave cylinder goes "bad". Then the master cylinder "goes bad", and
> then "leaks internally". Then the
> > (goofy) plastic "line" between them goes bad. (say wha? a plastic line
> with quick disconnects on a hydraulic
> > line???)
> >
> > I've been round and round with this every few months and it's always the
> same. Only this time I happened to be
> > near a jeep "specialist" who has "fixed " all 3 parts and now that he put
> a master cylinder in it lasted, oh,
> > about 10 minutes.
> >
> > Over the months I've called dealerships; the last one said the master
> Cylinder was "obsolete" and if I wanted
> > to buy an aftermarket one somewhere and bring it in they'd charge 1 hr.
> labor to put it on.
> >
> > What kind of insanity is this? Does everyone have this problem? Doesn't
> anyone make a real cable replacement
> > for the INANE engineering fiasco that seems to be this hydraulic clutch
> control?
> >
> > Capt. Purple
> >
> >
>
>

Re: achilles heel clutch hydraulics AGAIN...
 

Earl, How do you suppose I (or anyone) is supposed to get this external slave cylinder to operate the
internal mechanism? Part of my point was I was wondering if anyone had the foresight to invent a retrofit kit
or a conversion kit, or a real conversion kit that changed the whole thing to for example a cable operation.

CP.


"Earle Horton" wrote in message :
> Jeep went to a different bell housing design and external slave cylinder for
> the 1994 model year. You could probably pick up all the parts fairly
> cheaply at a recycling yard.
>
> Earle
>
> "Captain Purple" wrote in message
> > Well here we go for about the 5th time.
> >
> > 93 Wrangler 4 cyl.
> >
> > The slave cylinder goes "bad". Then the master cylinder "goes bad", and
> then "leaks internally". Then the
> > (goofy) plastic "line" between them goes bad. (say wha? a plastic line
> with quick disconnects on a hydraulic
> > line???)
> >
> > I've been round and round with this every few months and it's always the
> same. Only this time I happened to be
> > near a jeep "specialist" who has "fixed " all 3 parts and now that he put
> a master cylinder in it lasted, oh,
> > about 10 minutes.
> >
> > Over the months I've called dealerships; the last one said the master
> Cylinder was "obsolete" and if I wanted
> > to buy an aftermarket one somewhere and bring it in they'd charge 1 hr.
> labor to put it on.
> >
> > What kind of insanity is this? Does everyone have this problem? Doesn't
> anyone make a real cable replacement
> > for the INANE engineering fiasco that seems to be this hydraulic clutch
> control?
> >
> > Capt. Purple
> >
> >
>
>

Re: achilles heel clutch hydraulics AGAIN...
 

Earl, How do you suppose I (or anyone) is supposed to get this external slave cylinder to operate the
internal mechanism? Part of my point was I was wondering if anyone had the foresight to invent a retrofit kit
or a conversion kit, or a real conversion kit that changed the whole thing to for example a cable operation.

CP.


"Earle Horton" wrote in message :
> Jeep went to a different bell housing design and external slave cylinder for
> the 1994 model year. You could probably pick up all the parts fairly
> cheaply at a recycling yard.
>
> Earle
>
> "Captain Purple" wrote in message
> > Well here we go for about the 5th time.
> >
> > 93 Wrangler 4 cyl.
> >
> > The slave cylinder goes "bad". Then the master cylinder "goes bad", and
> then "leaks internally". Then the
> > (goofy) plastic "line" between them goes bad. (say wha? a plastic line
> with quick disconnects on a hydraulic
> > line???)
> >
> > I've been round and round with this every few months and it's always the
> same. Only this time I happened to be
> > near a jeep "specialist" who has "fixed " all 3 parts and now that he put
> a master cylinder in it lasted, oh,
> > about 10 minutes.
> >
> > Over the months I've called dealerships; the last one said the master
> Cylinder was "obsolete" and if I wanted
> > to buy an aftermarket one somewhere and bring it in they'd charge 1 hr.
> labor to put it on.
> >
> > What kind of insanity is this? Does everyone have this problem? Doesn't
> anyone make a real cable replacement
> > for the INANE engineering fiasco that seems to be this hydraulic clutch
> control?
> >
> > Capt. Purple
> >
> >
>
>

Re: achilles heel clutch hydraulics AGAIN...
 

Earl, How do you suppose I (or anyone) is supposed to get this external slave cylinder to operate the
internal mechanism? Part of my point was I was wondering if anyone had the foresight to invent a retrofit kit
or a conversion kit, or a real conversion kit that changed the whole thing to for example a cable operation.

CP.


"Earle Horton" wrote in message :
> Jeep went to a different bell housing design and external slave cylinder for
> the 1994 model year. You could probably pick up all the parts fairly
> cheaply at a recycling yard.
>
> Earle
>
> "Captain Purple" wrote in message
> > Well here we go for about the 5th time.
> >
> > 93 Wrangler 4 cyl.
> >
> > The slave cylinder goes "bad". Then the master cylinder "goes bad", and
> then "leaks internally". Then the
> > (goofy) plastic "line" between them goes bad. (say wha? a plastic line
> with quick disconnects on a hydraulic
> > line???)
> >
> > I've been round and round with this every few months and it's always the
> same. Only this time I happened to be
> > near a jeep "specialist" who has "fixed " all 3 parts and now that he put
> a master cylinder in it lasted, oh,
> > about 10 minutes.
> >
> > Over the months I've called dealerships; the last one said the master
> Cylinder was "obsolete" and if I wanted
> > to buy an aftermarket one somewhere and bring it in they'd charge 1 hr.
> labor to put it on.
> >
> > What kind of insanity is this? Does everyone have this problem? Doesn't
> anyone make a real cable replacement
> > for the INANE engineering fiasco that seems to be this hydraulic clutch
> control?
> >
> > Capt. Purple
> >
> >
>
>

Re: achilles heel clutch hydraulics AGAIN...
 

As Earl said, Jeep switched to an external slave (and I think it was '91
not '94) Just get all the parts. The parts manuals are available on
line, suppose someone could go look up the part numbers for you. Or just
get a complete setup at the junkyard.

Captain Purple wrote:

> Earl, How do you suppose I (or anyone) is supposed to get this external slave cylinder to operate the
> internal mechanism? Part of my point was I was wondering if anyone had the foresight to invent a retrofit kit
> or a conversion kit, or a real conversion kit that changed the whole thing to for example a cable operation.
>
> CP.
>
>
> "Earle Horton" wrote in message :
>
>>Jeep went to a different bell housing design and external slave cylinder for
>>the 1994 model year. You could probably pick up all the parts fairly
>>cheaply at a recycling yard.
>>
>>Earle
>>
>>"Captain Purple" wrote in message
>>
>>>Well here we go for about the 5th time.
>>>
>>>93 Wrangler 4 cyl.
>>>
>>>The slave cylinder goes "bad". Then the master cylinder "goes bad", and
>>
>>then "leaks internally". Then the
>>
>>>(goofy) plastic "line" between them goes bad. (say wha? a plastic line
>>
>>with quick disconnects on a hydraulic
>>
>>>line???)
>>>
>>>I've been round and round with this every few months and it's always the
>>
>>same. Only this time I happened to be
>>
>>>near a jeep "specialist" who has "fixed " all 3 parts and now that he put
>>
>>a master cylinder in it lasted, oh,
>>
>>>about 10 minutes.
>>>
>>>Over the months I've called dealerships; the last one said the master
>>
>>Cylinder was "obsolete" and if I wanted
>>
>>>to buy an aftermarket one somewhere and bring it in they'd charge 1 hr.
>>
>>labor to put it on.
>>
>>>What kind of insanity is this? Does everyone have this problem? Doesn't
>>
>>anyone make a real cable replacement
>>
>>>for the INANE engineering fiasco that seems to be this hydraulic clutch
>>
>>control?
>>
>>>Capt. Purple
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>