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Sorry, I probably should have said late-r. I'm not sure what the 93
would take, but it seems what is most important is that you add what
you already have in the system. I would ASSume this is "Classic
American Green." Pouring new formula Prestone a.k.a Dexcool a.k.a OAT
in your radiator might cause problems. That .pdf paper I linked has
the details on what you should look for in the ingredients.
would take, but it seems what is most important is that you add what
you already have in the system. I would ASSume this is "Classic
American Green." Pouring new formula Prestone a.k.a Dexcool a.k.a OAT
in your radiator might cause problems. That .pdf paper I linked has
the details on what you should look for in the ingredients.
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Sorry, I probably should have said late-r. I'm not sure what the 93
would take, but it seems what is most important is that you add what
you already have in the system. I would ASSume this is "Classic
American Green." Pouring new formula Prestone a.k.a Dexcool a.k.a OAT
in your radiator might cause problems. That .pdf paper I linked has
the details on what you should look for in the ingredients.
would take, but it seems what is most important is that you add what
you already have in the system. I would ASSume this is "Classic
American Green." Pouring new formula Prestone a.k.a Dexcool a.k.a OAT
in your radiator might cause problems. That .pdf paper I linked has
the details on what you should look for in the ingredients.
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"Earle Horton" <nursebusters@msn.com> wrote in message
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Hmm. The last time I bought coolant was in 1999, when I charged the
heating system in my house. I had two cases of no-name Walmart green
antifreeze left over, and this has served me since then. I do not
change or flush coolant. I never have, unless there was an obvious
reason for it, like conspicuous lime deposits in the visible radiator
tubes, or a leak. All of the leaks that I have serviced in this time
have been from known, explicable causes, like a pebble in the radiator
for example. I have always used a 50/50 mix of distilled or known
clean, soft tap water, and ethylene glycol antifreeze. The coolant in
my Jeep is still the same color and consistency as when it was new. It
is ten years old. I knew a guy in 1976 with a 1952 GMC wrecker, that
he claimed had the original factory antifreeze in it.
I gather from this thread that when my case of no-name Walmart runs
out, things could change. At least I won't be required to change the
120 gallons in my home heating system, every two years. Better keep
those fingers crossed.
>From the Prestone web site, the yellow container now sports "New
Prestone® All Makes All Models Extended Life Antifreeze/Coolant" which
contains "a patented Organic Acid Technology formula". This is
probably a pH buffer, if you took college freshman chemistry. If you
took the lab, you should know that any buffer can be overloaded, by
adding enough base or acid. I don't know the composition of this
stuff, but it's a pretty good bet that it would break down
spontaneously too. I think that the black container, "Prestone® Heavy
Duty Antifreeze/ Coolant", with its "blend of ethylene glycol and a
specially formulated inhibitor package designed for heavy duty cooling
system applications" might be a better buy. They seem to be saying
that "ethylene glycol" = "heavy duty".
Earle
L.W. ------ III (ßill) wrote:
> I stick to the Prestone green with Real ethylene glycol in a yellow
> container: http://www.Prestone.com/ and change it by two years. It has
> been proven this new environmental safe rust colored coolant the
> screaming Greenies have forced the manufactures to use, breaks down
> quickly and electrolysis soon destroys the engine.
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Billy Ray wrote:
> >
> > Prestone = Dexcool and is suitable only for vehicles in which you want
> > to
> > replace the engine and cooling systems.
> >
> > You can still get "American Green" 2 year antifreeze which would be
> > acceptable for your '92. That being said it is only $1 a gallon cheaper
> > than the superior, and recommended by DC, G-05 spec antifreeze.
> >
> > You can get the G-05 antifreeze at your local DC dealership, Ford
> > dealership, Mercedes dealership and (in Cincinnati) Pepboys. All the
> > above
> > are manufactured by Valvoline. The Zerex G-05 antifreeze comes in a
> > golden-yellow jug.
> >
> > You cannot get it at AutoZone, Advance Auto Parts, NAPA, Wal-Mart,
> > K-Mart,
> > or Target (in Cincinnati) as they carry Prestone products.
> >
> > If you read the Prestone label they claim to meet DC specs but DC
> > specifically says NOT to use DexCool (OAT) based coolants. Only HOAT
> > based
> > coolants and the only HOAT based is made by Valvoline.
> >
> > I can forward you (anyone) a 3 page excerpt from DC concerning engine
> > coolant. Just send a note with your e-mail address to me below (remove
> > SPAM)
> >
> > --
> > Billy_Ray@SPAM.fuse.net (remove SPAM)
> > 2002 Jeep WJ 4 Liter Automatic
> > Sharing is why we are all here....... or should be.
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"Earle Horton" <nursebusters@msn.com> wrote in message
news:1130225892.849337.35340@g14g2000cwa.googlegro ups.com...
Hmm. The last time I bought coolant was in 1999, when I charged the
heating system in my house. I had two cases of no-name Walmart green
antifreeze left over, and this has served me since then. I do not
change or flush coolant. I never have, unless there was an obvious
reason for it, like conspicuous lime deposits in the visible radiator
tubes, or a leak. All of the leaks that I have serviced in this time
have been from known, explicable causes, like a pebble in the radiator
for example. I have always used a 50/50 mix of distilled or known
clean, soft tap water, and ethylene glycol antifreeze. The coolant in
my Jeep is still the same color and consistency as when it was new. It
is ten years old. I knew a guy in 1976 with a 1952 GMC wrecker, that
he claimed had the original factory antifreeze in it.
I gather from this thread that when my case of no-name Walmart runs
out, things could change. At least I won't be required to change the
120 gallons in my home heating system, every two years. Better keep
those fingers crossed.
>From the Prestone web site, the yellow container now sports "New
Prestone® All Makes All Models Extended Life Antifreeze/Coolant" which
contains "a patented Organic Acid Technology formula". This is
probably a pH buffer, if you took college freshman chemistry. If you
took the lab, you should know that any buffer can be overloaded, by
adding enough base or acid. I don't know the composition of this
stuff, but it's a pretty good bet that it would break down
spontaneously too. I think that the black container, "Prestone® Heavy
Duty Antifreeze/ Coolant", with its "blend of ethylene glycol and a
specially formulated inhibitor package designed for heavy duty cooling
system applications" might be a better buy. They seem to be saying
that "ethylene glycol" = "heavy duty".
Earle
L.W. ------ III (ßill) wrote:
> I stick to the Prestone green with Real ethylene glycol in a yellow
> container: http://www.Prestone.com/ and change it by two years. It has
> been proven this new environmental safe rust colored coolant the
> screaming Greenies have forced the manufactures to use, breaks down
> quickly and electrolysis soon destroys the engine.
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Billy Ray wrote:
> >
> > Prestone = Dexcool and is suitable only for vehicles in which you want
> > to
> > replace the engine and cooling systems.
> >
> > You can still get "American Green" 2 year antifreeze which would be
> > acceptable for your '92. That being said it is only $1 a gallon cheaper
> > than the superior, and recommended by DC, G-05 spec antifreeze.
> >
> > You can get the G-05 antifreeze at your local DC dealership, Ford
> > dealership, Mercedes dealership and (in Cincinnati) Pepboys. All the
> > above
> > are manufactured by Valvoline. The Zerex G-05 antifreeze comes in a
> > golden-yellow jug.
> >
> > You cannot get it at AutoZone, Advance Auto Parts, NAPA, Wal-Mart,
> > K-Mart,
> > or Target (in Cincinnati) as they carry Prestone products.
> >
> > If you read the Prestone label they claim to meet DC specs but DC
> > specifically says NOT to use DexCool (OAT) based coolants. Only HOAT
> > based
> > coolants and the only HOAT based is made by Valvoline.
> >
> > I can forward you (anyone) a 3 page excerpt from DC concerning engine
> > coolant. Just send a note with your e-mail address to me below (remove
> > SPAM)
> >
> > --
> > Billy_Ray@SPAM.fuse.net (remove SPAM)
> > 2002 Jeep WJ 4 Liter Automatic
> > Sharing is why we are all here....... or should be.
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"Earle Horton" <nursebusters@msn.com> wrote in message
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Hmm. The last time I bought coolant was in 1999, when I charged the
heating system in my house. I had two cases of no-name Walmart green
antifreeze left over, and this has served me since then. I do not
change or flush coolant. I never have, unless there was an obvious
reason for it, like conspicuous lime deposits in the visible radiator
tubes, or a leak. All of the leaks that I have serviced in this time
have been from known, explicable causes, like a pebble in the radiator
for example. I have always used a 50/50 mix of distilled or known
clean, soft tap water, and ethylene glycol antifreeze. The coolant in
my Jeep is still the same color and consistency as when it was new. It
is ten years old. I knew a guy in 1976 with a 1952 GMC wrecker, that
he claimed had the original factory antifreeze in it.
I gather from this thread that when my case of no-name Walmart runs
out, things could change. At least I won't be required to change the
120 gallons in my home heating system, every two years. Better keep
those fingers crossed.
>From the Prestone web site, the yellow container now sports "New
Prestone® All Makes All Models Extended Life Antifreeze/Coolant" which
contains "a patented Organic Acid Technology formula". This is
probably a pH buffer, if you took college freshman chemistry. If you
took the lab, you should know that any buffer can be overloaded, by
adding enough base or acid. I don't know the composition of this
stuff, but it's a pretty good bet that it would break down
spontaneously too. I think that the black container, "Prestone® Heavy
Duty Antifreeze/ Coolant", with its "blend of ethylene glycol and a
specially formulated inhibitor package designed for heavy duty cooling
system applications" might be a better buy. They seem to be saying
that "ethylene glycol" = "heavy duty".
Earle
L.W. ------ III (ßill) wrote:
> I stick to the Prestone green with Real ethylene glycol in a yellow
> container: http://www.Prestone.com/ and change it by two years. It has
> been proven this new environmental safe rust colored coolant the
> screaming Greenies have forced the manufactures to use, breaks down
> quickly and electrolysis soon destroys the engine.
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Billy Ray wrote:
> >
> > Prestone = Dexcool and is suitable only for vehicles in which you want
> > to
> > replace the engine and cooling systems.
> >
> > You can still get "American Green" 2 year antifreeze which would be
> > acceptable for your '92. That being said it is only $1 a gallon cheaper
> > than the superior, and recommended by DC, G-05 spec antifreeze.
> >
> > You can get the G-05 antifreeze at your local DC dealership, Ford
> > dealership, Mercedes dealership and (in Cincinnati) Pepboys. All the
> > above
> > are manufactured by Valvoline. The Zerex G-05 antifreeze comes in a
> > golden-yellow jug.
> >
> > You cannot get it at AutoZone, Advance Auto Parts, NAPA, Wal-Mart,
> > K-Mart,
> > or Target (in Cincinnati) as they carry Prestone products.
> >
> > If you read the Prestone label they claim to meet DC specs but DC
> > specifically says NOT to use DexCool (OAT) based coolants. Only HOAT
> > based
> > coolants and the only HOAT based is made by Valvoline.
> >
> > I can forward you (anyone) a 3 page excerpt from DC concerning engine
> > coolant. Just send a note with your e-mail address to me below (remove
> > SPAM)
> >
> > --
> > Billy_Ray@SPAM.fuse.net (remove SPAM)
> > 2002 Jeep WJ 4 Liter Automatic
> > Sharing is why we are all here....... or should be.
practice.
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"Earle Horton" <nursebusters@msn.com> wrote in message
news:1130225892.849337.35340@g14g2000cwa.googlegro ups.com...
Hmm. The last time I bought coolant was in 1999, when I charged the
heating system in my house. I had two cases of no-name Walmart green
antifreeze left over, and this has served me since then. I do not
change or flush coolant. I never have, unless there was an obvious
reason for it, like conspicuous lime deposits in the visible radiator
tubes, or a leak. All of the leaks that I have serviced in this time
have been from known, explicable causes, like a pebble in the radiator
for example. I have always used a 50/50 mix of distilled or known
clean, soft tap water, and ethylene glycol antifreeze. The coolant in
my Jeep is still the same color and consistency as when it was new. It
is ten years old. I knew a guy in 1976 with a 1952 GMC wrecker, that
he claimed had the original factory antifreeze in it.
I gather from this thread that when my case of no-name Walmart runs
out, things could change. At least I won't be required to change the
120 gallons in my home heating system, every two years. Better keep
those fingers crossed.
>From the Prestone web site, the yellow container now sports "New
Prestone® All Makes All Models Extended Life Antifreeze/Coolant" which
contains "a patented Organic Acid Technology formula". This is
probably a pH buffer, if you took college freshman chemistry. If you
took the lab, you should know that any buffer can be overloaded, by
adding enough base or acid. I don't know the composition of this
stuff, but it's a pretty good bet that it would break down
spontaneously too. I think that the black container, "Prestone® Heavy
Duty Antifreeze/ Coolant", with its "blend of ethylene glycol and a
specially formulated inhibitor package designed for heavy duty cooling
system applications" might be a better buy. They seem to be saying
that "ethylene glycol" = "heavy duty".
Earle
L.W. ------ III (ßill) wrote:
> I stick to the Prestone green with Real ethylene glycol in a yellow
> container: http://www.Prestone.com/ and change it by two years. It has
> been proven this new environmental safe rust colored coolant the
> screaming Greenies have forced the manufactures to use, breaks down
> quickly and electrolysis soon destroys the engine.
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Billy Ray wrote:
> >
> > Prestone = Dexcool and is suitable only for vehicles in which you want
> > to
> > replace the engine and cooling systems.
> >
> > You can still get "American Green" 2 year antifreeze which would be
> > acceptable for your '92. That being said it is only $1 a gallon cheaper
> > than the superior, and recommended by DC, G-05 spec antifreeze.
> >
> > You can get the G-05 antifreeze at your local DC dealership, Ford
> > dealership, Mercedes dealership and (in Cincinnati) Pepboys. All the
> > above
> > are manufactured by Valvoline. The Zerex G-05 antifreeze comes in a
> > golden-yellow jug.
> >
> > You cannot get it at AutoZone, Advance Auto Parts, NAPA, Wal-Mart,
> > K-Mart,
> > or Target (in Cincinnati) as they carry Prestone products.
> >
> > If you read the Prestone label they claim to meet DC specs but DC
> > specifically says NOT to use DexCool (OAT) based coolants. Only HOAT
> > based
> > coolants and the only HOAT based is made by Valvoline.
> >
> > I can forward you (anyone) a 3 page excerpt from DC concerning engine
> > coolant. Just send a note with your e-mail address to me below (remove
> > SPAM)
> >
> > --
> > Billy_Ray@SPAM.fuse.net (remove SPAM)
> > 2002 Jeep WJ 4 Liter Automatic
> > Sharing is why we are all here....... or should be.
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"Earle Horton" <nursebusters@msn.com> wrote in message
news:1130225892.849337.35340@g14g2000cwa.googlegro ups.com...
Hmm. The last time I bought coolant was in 1999, when I charged the
heating system in my house. I had two cases of no-name Walmart green
antifreeze left over, and this has served me since then. I do not
change or flush coolant. I never have, unless there was an obvious
reason for it, like conspicuous lime deposits in the visible radiator
tubes, or a leak. All of the leaks that I have serviced in this time
have been from known, explicable causes, like a pebble in the radiator
for example. I have always used a 50/50 mix of distilled or known
clean, soft tap water, and ethylene glycol antifreeze. The coolant in
my Jeep is still the same color and consistency as when it was new. It
is ten years old. I knew a guy in 1976 with a 1952 GMC wrecker, that
he claimed had the original factory antifreeze in it.
I gather from this thread that when my case of no-name Walmart runs
out, things could change. At least I won't be required to change the
120 gallons in my home heating system, every two years. Better keep
those fingers crossed.
>From the Prestone web site, the yellow container now sports "New
Prestone® All Makes All Models Extended Life Antifreeze/Coolant" which
contains "a patented Organic Acid Technology formula". This is
probably a pH buffer, if you took college freshman chemistry. If you
took the lab, you should know that any buffer can be overloaded, by
adding enough base or acid. I don't know the composition of this
stuff, but it's a pretty good bet that it would break down
spontaneously too. I think that the black container, "Prestone® Heavy
Duty Antifreeze/ Coolant", with its "blend of ethylene glycol and a
specially formulated inhibitor package designed for heavy duty cooling
system applications" might be a better buy. They seem to be saying
that "ethylene glycol" = "heavy duty".
Earle
L.W. ------ III (ßill) wrote:
> I stick to the Prestone green with Real ethylene glycol in a yellow
> container: http://www.Prestone.com/ and change it by two years. It has
> been proven this new environmental safe rust colored coolant the
> screaming Greenies have forced the manufactures to use, breaks down
> quickly and electrolysis soon destroys the engine.
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Billy Ray wrote:
> >
> > Prestone = Dexcool and is suitable only for vehicles in which you want
> > to
> > replace the engine and cooling systems.
> >
> > You can still get "American Green" 2 year antifreeze which would be
> > acceptable for your '92. That being said it is only $1 a gallon cheaper
> > than the superior, and recommended by DC, G-05 spec antifreeze.
> >
> > You can get the G-05 antifreeze at your local DC dealership, Ford
> > dealership, Mercedes dealership and (in Cincinnati) Pepboys. All the
> > above
> > are manufactured by Valvoline. The Zerex G-05 antifreeze comes in a
> > golden-yellow jug.
> >
> > You cannot get it at AutoZone, Advance Auto Parts, NAPA, Wal-Mart,
> > K-Mart,
> > or Target (in Cincinnati) as they carry Prestone products.
> >
> > If you read the Prestone label they claim to meet DC specs but DC
> > specifically says NOT to use DexCool (OAT) based coolants. Only HOAT
> > based
> > coolants and the only HOAT based is made by Valvoline.
> >
> > I can forward you (anyone) a 3 page excerpt from DC concerning engine
> > coolant. Just send a note with your e-mail address to me below (remove
> > SPAM)
> >
> > --
> > Billy_Ray@SPAM.fuse.net (remove SPAM)
> > 2002 Jeep WJ 4 Liter Automatic
> > Sharing is why we are all here....... or should be.
practice.
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"Earle Horton" <nursebusters@msn.com> wrote in message
news:1130225892.849337.35340@g14g2000cwa.googlegro ups.com...
Hmm. The last time I bought coolant was in 1999, when I charged the
heating system in my house. I had two cases of no-name Walmart green
antifreeze left over, and this has served me since then. I do not
change or flush coolant. I never have, unless there was an obvious
reason for it, like conspicuous lime deposits in the visible radiator
tubes, or a leak. All of the leaks that I have serviced in this time
have been from known, explicable causes, like a pebble in the radiator
for example. I have always used a 50/50 mix of distilled or known
clean, soft tap water, and ethylene glycol antifreeze. The coolant in
my Jeep is still the same color and consistency as when it was new. It
is ten years old. I knew a guy in 1976 with a 1952 GMC wrecker, that
he claimed had the original factory antifreeze in it.
I gather from this thread that when my case of no-name Walmart runs
out, things could change. At least I won't be required to change the
120 gallons in my home heating system, every two years. Better keep
those fingers crossed.
>From the Prestone web site, the yellow container now sports "New
Prestone® All Makes All Models Extended Life Antifreeze/Coolant" which
contains "a patented Organic Acid Technology formula". This is
probably a pH buffer, if you took college freshman chemistry. If you
took the lab, you should know that any buffer can be overloaded, by
adding enough base or acid. I don't know the composition of this
stuff, but it's a pretty good bet that it would break down
spontaneously too. I think that the black container, "Prestone® Heavy
Duty Antifreeze/ Coolant", with its "blend of ethylene glycol and a
specially formulated inhibitor package designed for heavy duty cooling
system applications" might be a better buy. They seem to be saying
that "ethylene glycol" = "heavy duty".
Earle
L.W. ------ III (ßill) wrote:
> I stick to the Prestone green with Real ethylene glycol in a yellow
> container: http://www.Prestone.com/ and change it by two years. It has
> been proven this new environmental safe rust colored coolant the
> screaming Greenies have forced the manufactures to use, breaks down
> quickly and electrolysis soon destroys the engine.
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Billy Ray wrote:
> >
> > Prestone = Dexcool and is suitable only for vehicles in which you want
> > to
> > replace the engine and cooling systems.
> >
> > You can still get "American Green" 2 year antifreeze which would be
> > acceptable for your '92. That being said it is only $1 a gallon cheaper
> > than the superior, and recommended by DC, G-05 spec antifreeze.
> >
> > You can get the G-05 antifreeze at your local DC dealership, Ford
> > dealership, Mercedes dealership and (in Cincinnati) Pepboys. All the
> > above
> > are manufactured by Valvoline. The Zerex G-05 antifreeze comes in a
> > golden-yellow jug.
> >
> > You cannot get it at AutoZone, Advance Auto Parts, NAPA, Wal-Mart,
> > K-Mart,
> > or Target (in Cincinnati) as they carry Prestone products.
> >
> > If you read the Prestone label they claim to meet DC specs but DC
> > specifically says NOT to use DexCool (OAT) based coolants. Only HOAT
> > based
> > coolants and the only HOAT based is made by Valvoline.
> >
> > I can forward you (anyone) a 3 page excerpt from DC concerning engine
> > coolant. Just send a note with your e-mail address to me below (remove
> > SPAM)
> >
> > --
> > Billy_Ray@SPAM.fuse.net (remove SPAM)
> > 2002 Jeep WJ 4 Liter Automatic
> > Sharing is why we are all here....... or should be.
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Hi Earle,
Thanks for finding they had switch the formulas over what my last
yellow had: http://www.----------.com/temp/prestone.jpg I will double
check for the Real coolant with ethylene glycol is in. I have forgot why
the coolant will breaks down, but it does just like the transmission
oil, maybe heat cycling.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:--------------------
Earle Horton wrote:
>
> Hmm. The last time I bought coolant was in 1999, when I charged the
> heating system in my house. I had two cases of no-name Walmart green
> antifreeze left over, and this has served me since then. I do not
> change or flush coolant. I never have, unless there was an obvious
> reason for it, like conspicuous lime deposits in the visible radiator
> tubes, or a leak. All of the leaks that I have serviced in this time
> have been from known, explicable causes, like a pebble in the radiator
> for example. I have always used a 50/50 mix of distilled or known
> clean, soft tap water, and ethylene glycol antifreeze. The coolant in
> my Jeep is still the same color and consistency as when it was new. It
> is ten years old. I knew a guy in 1976 with a 1952 GMC wrecker, that
> he claimed had the original factory antifreeze in it.
>
> I gather from this thread that when my case of no-name Walmart runs
> out, things could change. At least I won't be required to change the
> 120 gallons in my home heating system, every two years. Better keep
> those fingers crossed.
>
> >From the Prestone web site, the yellow container now sports "New
> Prestone® All Makes All Models Extended Life Antifreeze/Coolant" which
> contains "a patented Organic Acid Technology formula". This is
> probably a pH buffer, if you took college freshman chemistry. If you
> took the lab, you should know that any buffer can be overloaded, by
> adding enough base or acid. I don't know the composition of this
> stuff, but it's a pretty good bet that it would break down
> spontaneously too. I think that the black container, "Prestone® Heavy
> Duty Antifreeze/ Coolant", with its "blend of ethylene glycol and a
> specially formulated inhibitor package designed for heavy duty cooling
> system applications" might be a better buy. They seem to be saying
> that "ethylene glycol" = "heavy duty".
>
> Earle
Thanks for finding they had switch the formulas over what my last
yellow had: http://www.----------.com/temp/prestone.jpg I will double
check for the Real coolant with ethylene glycol is in. I have forgot why
the coolant will breaks down, but it does just like the transmission
oil, maybe heat cycling.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:--------------------
Earle Horton wrote:
>
> Hmm. The last time I bought coolant was in 1999, when I charged the
> heating system in my house. I had two cases of no-name Walmart green
> antifreeze left over, and this has served me since then. I do not
> change or flush coolant. I never have, unless there was an obvious
> reason for it, like conspicuous lime deposits in the visible radiator
> tubes, or a leak. All of the leaks that I have serviced in this time
> have been from known, explicable causes, like a pebble in the radiator
> for example. I have always used a 50/50 mix of distilled or known
> clean, soft tap water, and ethylene glycol antifreeze. The coolant in
> my Jeep is still the same color and consistency as when it was new. It
> is ten years old. I knew a guy in 1976 with a 1952 GMC wrecker, that
> he claimed had the original factory antifreeze in it.
>
> I gather from this thread that when my case of no-name Walmart runs
> out, things could change. At least I won't be required to change the
> 120 gallons in my home heating system, every two years. Better keep
> those fingers crossed.
>
> >From the Prestone web site, the yellow container now sports "New
> Prestone® All Makes All Models Extended Life Antifreeze/Coolant" which
> contains "a patented Organic Acid Technology formula". This is
> probably a pH buffer, if you took college freshman chemistry. If you
> took the lab, you should know that any buffer can be overloaded, by
> adding enough base or acid. I don't know the composition of this
> stuff, but it's a pretty good bet that it would break down
> spontaneously too. I think that the black container, "Prestone® Heavy
> Duty Antifreeze/ Coolant", with its "blend of ethylene glycol and a
> specially formulated inhibitor package designed for heavy duty cooling
> system applications" might be a better buy. They seem to be saying
> that "ethylene glycol" = "heavy duty".
>
> Earle
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Hi Earle,
Thanks for finding they had switch the formulas over what my last
yellow had: http://www.----------.com/temp/prestone.jpg I will double
check for the Real coolant with ethylene glycol is in. I have forgot why
the coolant will breaks down, but it does just like the transmission
oil, maybe heat cycling.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:--------------------
Earle Horton wrote:
>
> Hmm. The last time I bought coolant was in 1999, when I charged the
> heating system in my house. I had two cases of no-name Walmart green
> antifreeze left over, and this has served me since then. I do not
> change or flush coolant. I never have, unless there was an obvious
> reason for it, like conspicuous lime deposits in the visible radiator
> tubes, or a leak. All of the leaks that I have serviced in this time
> have been from known, explicable causes, like a pebble in the radiator
> for example. I have always used a 50/50 mix of distilled or known
> clean, soft tap water, and ethylene glycol antifreeze. The coolant in
> my Jeep is still the same color and consistency as when it was new. It
> is ten years old. I knew a guy in 1976 with a 1952 GMC wrecker, that
> he claimed had the original factory antifreeze in it.
>
> I gather from this thread that when my case of no-name Walmart runs
> out, things could change. At least I won't be required to change the
> 120 gallons in my home heating system, every two years. Better keep
> those fingers crossed.
>
> >From the Prestone web site, the yellow container now sports "New
> Prestone® All Makes All Models Extended Life Antifreeze/Coolant" which
> contains "a patented Organic Acid Technology formula". This is
> probably a pH buffer, if you took college freshman chemistry. If you
> took the lab, you should know that any buffer can be overloaded, by
> adding enough base or acid. I don't know the composition of this
> stuff, but it's a pretty good bet that it would break down
> spontaneously too. I think that the black container, "Prestone® Heavy
> Duty Antifreeze/ Coolant", with its "blend of ethylene glycol and a
> specially formulated inhibitor package designed for heavy duty cooling
> system applications" might be a better buy. They seem to be saying
> that "ethylene glycol" = "heavy duty".
>
> Earle
Thanks for finding they had switch the formulas over what my last
yellow had: http://www.----------.com/temp/prestone.jpg I will double
check for the Real coolant with ethylene glycol is in. I have forgot why
the coolant will breaks down, but it does just like the transmission
oil, maybe heat cycling.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:--------------------
Earle Horton wrote:
>
> Hmm. The last time I bought coolant was in 1999, when I charged the
> heating system in my house. I had two cases of no-name Walmart green
> antifreeze left over, and this has served me since then. I do not
> change or flush coolant. I never have, unless there was an obvious
> reason for it, like conspicuous lime deposits in the visible radiator
> tubes, or a leak. All of the leaks that I have serviced in this time
> have been from known, explicable causes, like a pebble in the radiator
> for example. I have always used a 50/50 mix of distilled or known
> clean, soft tap water, and ethylene glycol antifreeze. The coolant in
> my Jeep is still the same color and consistency as when it was new. It
> is ten years old. I knew a guy in 1976 with a 1952 GMC wrecker, that
> he claimed had the original factory antifreeze in it.
>
> I gather from this thread that when my case of no-name Walmart runs
> out, things could change. At least I won't be required to change the
> 120 gallons in my home heating system, every two years. Better keep
> those fingers crossed.
>
> >From the Prestone web site, the yellow container now sports "New
> Prestone® All Makes All Models Extended Life Antifreeze/Coolant" which
> contains "a patented Organic Acid Technology formula". This is
> probably a pH buffer, if you took college freshman chemistry. If you
> took the lab, you should know that any buffer can be overloaded, by
> adding enough base or acid. I don't know the composition of this
> stuff, but it's a pretty good bet that it would break down
> spontaneously too. I think that the black container, "Prestone® Heavy
> Duty Antifreeze/ Coolant", with its "blend of ethylene glycol and a
> specially formulated inhibitor package designed for heavy duty cooling
> system applications" might be a better buy. They seem to be saying
> that "ethylene glycol" = "heavy duty".
>
> Earle
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Hi Earle,
Thanks for finding they had switch the formulas over what my last
yellow had: http://www.----------.com/temp/prestone.jpg I will double
check for the Real coolant with ethylene glycol is in. I have forgot why
the coolant will breaks down, but it does just like the transmission
oil, maybe heat cycling.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:--------------------
Earle Horton wrote:
>
> Hmm. The last time I bought coolant was in 1999, when I charged the
> heating system in my house. I had two cases of no-name Walmart green
> antifreeze left over, and this has served me since then. I do not
> change or flush coolant. I never have, unless there was an obvious
> reason for it, like conspicuous lime deposits in the visible radiator
> tubes, or a leak. All of the leaks that I have serviced in this time
> have been from known, explicable causes, like a pebble in the radiator
> for example. I have always used a 50/50 mix of distilled or known
> clean, soft tap water, and ethylene glycol antifreeze. The coolant in
> my Jeep is still the same color and consistency as when it was new. It
> is ten years old. I knew a guy in 1976 with a 1952 GMC wrecker, that
> he claimed had the original factory antifreeze in it.
>
> I gather from this thread that when my case of no-name Walmart runs
> out, things could change. At least I won't be required to change the
> 120 gallons in my home heating system, every two years. Better keep
> those fingers crossed.
>
> >From the Prestone web site, the yellow container now sports "New
> Prestone® All Makes All Models Extended Life Antifreeze/Coolant" which
> contains "a patented Organic Acid Technology formula". This is
> probably a pH buffer, if you took college freshman chemistry. If you
> took the lab, you should know that any buffer can be overloaded, by
> adding enough base or acid. I don't know the composition of this
> stuff, but it's a pretty good bet that it would break down
> spontaneously too. I think that the black container, "Prestone® Heavy
> Duty Antifreeze/ Coolant", with its "blend of ethylene glycol and a
> specially formulated inhibitor package designed for heavy duty cooling
> system applications" might be a better buy. They seem to be saying
> that "ethylene glycol" = "heavy duty".
>
> Earle
Thanks for finding they had switch the formulas over what my last
yellow had: http://www.----------.com/temp/prestone.jpg I will double
check for the Real coolant with ethylene glycol is in. I have forgot why
the coolant will breaks down, but it does just like the transmission
oil, maybe heat cycling.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:--------------------
Earle Horton wrote:
>
> Hmm. The last time I bought coolant was in 1999, when I charged the
> heating system in my house. I had two cases of no-name Walmart green
> antifreeze left over, and this has served me since then. I do not
> change or flush coolant. I never have, unless there was an obvious
> reason for it, like conspicuous lime deposits in the visible radiator
> tubes, or a leak. All of the leaks that I have serviced in this time
> have been from known, explicable causes, like a pebble in the radiator
> for example. I have always used a 50/50 mix of distilled or known
> clean, soft tap water, and ethylene glycol antifreeze. The coolant in
> my Jeep is still the same color and consistency as when it was new. It
> is ten years old. I knew a guy in 1976 with a 1952 GMC wrecker, that
> he claimed had the original factory antifreeze in it.
>
> I gather from this thread that when my case of no-name Walmart runs
> out, things could change. At least I won't be required to change the
> 120 gallons in my home heating system, every two years. Better keep
> those fingers crossed.
>
> >From the Prestone web site, the yellow container now sports "New
> Prestone® All Makes All Models Extended Life Antifreeze/Coolant" which
> contains "a patented Organic Acid Technology formula". This is
> probably a pH buffer, if you took college freshman chemistry. If you
> took the lab, you should know that any buffer can be overloaded, by
> adding enough base or acid. I don't know the composition of this
> stuff, but it's a pretty good bet that it would break down
> spontaneously too. I think that the black container, "Prestone® Heavy
> Duty Antifreeze/ Coolant", with its "blend of ethylene glycol and a
> specially formulated inhibitor package designed for heavy duty cooling
> system applications" might be a better buy. They seem to be saying
> that "ethylene glycol" = "heavy duty".
>
> Earle
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Hi Earle,
Yes, I will switch container colors, thanks. I promise to look for
leaks so as not to poison all the cats of the neighborhood, that love to
drink alcohol like I.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Earle Horton wrote:
>
> I mentioned the Prestone "patented Organic Acid Technology formula"
> because it comes in a yellow container, according to their web site,
> and that is what Bill says, that he has been using. According to the
> "Real ethylene glycol" comment, maybe be wants the black container
> stuff now. The (apparently) good stuff is now labelled "Prestone®
> Heavy Duty Antifreeze/Coolant" and comes in one gallon black plastic
> containers. "Heavy Duty" looks good to me, but still you have to
> remember that everything printed on the outside of a consumer package,
> is hype. I should know. I used to work for Microsoft.
>
> By the way, if deer or other wildlife should happen to ingest any of
> the ethylene glycol that leaks out of your vehicle, try giving them
> beer, as an antidote. Ethylene glycol as a poison acts by being turned
> into insoluble crystals in the kidneys, and thereby damaging them, or
> eliminating kidney function entirely. Ethanol in beer displaces
> ethylene glycol from this process, and causes it to be voided as a
> liquid. If you get the beer to them early enough, you can save them.
> There should be no trouble getting deer or any other woodland critters
> to drink beer.
>
> Earle
Yes, I will switch container colors, thanks. I promise to look for
leaks so as not to poison all the cats of the neighborhood, that love to
drink alcohol like I.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Earle Horton wrote:
>
> I mentioned the Prestone "patented Organic Acid Technology formula"
> because it comes in a yellow container, according to their web site,
> and that is what Bill says, that he has been using. According to the
> "Real ethylene glycol" comment, maybe be wants the black container
> stuff now. The (apparently) good stuff is now labelled "Prestone®
> Heavy Duty Antifreeze/Coolant" and comes in one gallon black plastic
> containers. "Heavy Duty" looks good to me, but still you have to
> remember that everything printed on the outside of a consumer package,
> is hype. I should know. I used to work for Microsoft.
>
> By the way, if deer or other wildlife should happen to ingest any of
> the ethylene glycol that leaks out of your vehicle, try giving them
> beer, as an antidote. Ethylene glycol as a poison acts by being turned
> into insoluble crystals in the kidneys, and thereby damaging them, or
> eliminating kidney function entirely. Ethanol in beer displaces
> ethylene glycol from this process, and causes it to be voided as a
> liquid. If you get the beer to them early enough, you can save them.
> There should be no trouble getting deer or any other woodland critters
> to drink beer.
>
> Earle
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Hi Earle,
Yes, I will switch container colors, thanks. I promise to look for
leaks so as not to poison all the cats of the neighborhood, that love to
drink alcohol like I.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Earle Horton wrote:
>
> I mentioned the Prestone "patented Organic Acid Technology formula"
> because it comes in a yellow container, according to their web site,
> and that is what Bill says, that he has been using. According to the
> "Real ethylene glycol" comment, maybe be wants the black container
> stuff now. The (apparently) good stuff is now labelled "Prestone®
> Heavy Duty Antifreeze/Coolant" and comes in one gallon black plastic
> containers. "Heavy Duty" looks good to me, but still you have to
> remember that everything printed on the outside of a consumer package,
> is hype. I should know. I used to work for Microsoft.
>
> By the way, if deer or other wildlife should happen to ingest any of
> the ethylene glycol that leaks out of your vehicle, try giving them
> beer, as an antidote. Ethylene glycol as a poison acts by being turned
> into insoluble crystals in the kidneys, and thereby damaging them, or
> eliminating kidney function entirely. Ethanol in beer displaces
> ethylene glycol from this process, and causes it to be voided as a
> liquid. If you get the beer to them early enough, you can save them.
> There should be no trouble getting deer or any other woodland critters
> to drink beer.
>
> Earle
Yes, I will switch container colors, thanks. I promise to look for
leaks so as not to poison all the cats of the neighborhood, that love to
drink alcohol like I.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Earle Horton wrote:
>
> I mentioned the Prestone "patented Organic Acid Technology formula"
> because it comes in a yellow container, according to their web site,
> and that is what Bill says, that he has been using. According to the
> "Real ethylene glycol" comment, maybe be wants the black container
> stuff now. The (apparently) good stuff is now labelled "Prestone®
> Heavy Duty Antifreeze/Coolant" and comes in one gallon black plastic
> containers. "Heavy Duty" looks good to me, but still you have to
> remember that everything printed on the outside of a consumer package,
> is hype. I should know. I used to work for Microsoft.
>
> By the way, if deer or other wildlife should happen to ingest any of
> the ethylene glycol that leaks out of your vehicle, try giving them
> beer, as an antidote. Ethylene glycol as a poison acts by being turned
> into insoluble crystals in the kidneys, and thereby damaging them, or
> eliminating kidney function entirely. Ethanol in beer displaces
> ethylene glycol from this process, and causes it to be voided as a
> liquid. If you get the beer to them early enough, you can save them.
> There should be no trouble getting deer or any other woodland critters
> to drink beer.
>
> Earle