98 Jeep Wrangler and E85 fuel
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Re: 98 Jeep Wrangler and E85 fuel
LOL As Princes Di used complain about, wanting to be a traitor and buy a
Krout car.
My one English car experience was as '55 Austin Healey, aluminum body,
wire knock offs, lay down windshield but if it was fogging it shorted out,
and just stopped.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
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> I *think* the Jags had this up to at least the '61 3.8S model, after
> that stopped paying attention to Jag sedans, as they were all slightly
> less reliable than a teenage mistress.
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Krout car.
My one English car experience was as '55 Austin Healey, aluminum body,
wire knock offs, lay down windshield but if it was fogging it shorted out,
and just stopped.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
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> I *think* the Jags had this up to at least the '61 3.8S model, after
> that stopped paying attention to Jag sedans, as they were all slightly
> less reliable than a teenage mistress.
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Your experiment probably was the standard electrolysis, which generates
hydrogen and oxygen. If you put a small enough magnesium splinter in
the oxygen, particularly it it is at all wet, it would be expected to
react rather nicely. You should get a whitish smoke, magnesium oxide.
Trying it with hydrogen, not much will happen, as magnesium hydride is a
method for storing hydrogen... pretty easy to get the hydrogen loose
from the magnesium as opposed to trying to get the oxygen away from the
magnesium. The relative difficulty in splitting either one from the
magnesium compound is directly related to how readily they
combine...combine easy, split hard. Not that many schools would have
the equipment to make hydrogen combine with magnesium, plus it is a
multi step reaction and not overly spectacular.
L.W. (Bill) ------ III proclaimed:
> All I remember was we put two electrical probes into a glass of ad
> watched the bubbles come off them, trapping that gas (I thought I remembered
> it was Hydrogen) with a piece of paper across the top of the glass. then we
> transferred that gas to a glass without water, and with a knife shaved a
> splinter of this metal, I remember it was Magnesium as that was what the
> rims on my dragster were made of, not aluminum. Anyway we lifted that piece
> of paper covering the glass and threw in the shaving, where upon it exploded
> in fire. I could probably look the high school experiment up on the
> internet, but not today.
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
>
> "Lon" <lon.stowell@comcast.net> wrote in message
> news:1JGdnZeUgbfQ8NvbnZ2dnUVZ_jydnZ2d@comcast.com. ..
>
>>Pretty sure you are confusing this with another reaction.
>>Remember your hydrogen series where both magnesium and hydrogen are
>>classed as metals...
>>
>>Magnesium can be made to react with hydrogen to produce magnesium
>>hydride. It is not a simple reaction and typically requires a
>>catalytical halide or organic halide to create. Patent numbers of the
>>process available on request. Plus the reaction would never be termed
>>"burning" by any chem major.
>>
>>Magnesium reacts reasonably well with all of the halogens, and burning
>>magnesium cannot be extinguished with water, carbon dioxide, etc. since
>>it will break those apart and burn the resulting oxygen and leave behind
>>hydrogen or carbon.
>
>
>
>
hydrogen and oxygen. If you put a small enough magnesium splinter in
the oxygen, particularly it it is at all wet, it would be expected to
react rather nicely. You should get a whitish smoke, magnesium oxide.
Trying it with hydrogen, not much will happen, as magnesium hydride is a
method for storing hydrogen... pretty easy to get the hydrogen loose
from the magnesium as opposed to trying to get the oxygen away from the
magnesium. The relative difficulty in splitting either one from the
magnesium compound is directly related to how readily they
combine...combine easy, split hard. Not that many schools would have
the equipment to make hydrogen combine with magnesium, plus it is a
multi step reaction and not overly spectacular.
L.W. (Bill) ------ III proclaimed:
> All I remember was we put two electrical probes into a glass of ad
> watched the bubbles come off them, trapping that gas (I thought I remembered
> it was Hydrogen) with a piece of paper across the top of the glass. then we
> transferred that gas to a glass without water, and with a knife shaved a
> splinter of this metal, I remember it was Magnesium as that was what the
> rims on my dragster were made of, not aluminum. Anyway we lifted that piece
> of paper covering the glass and threw in the shaving, where upon it exploded
> in fire. I could probably look the high school experiment up on the
> internet, but not today.
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
>
> "Lon" <lon.stowell@comcast.net> wrote in message
> news:1JGdnZeUgbfQ8NvbnZ2dnUVZ_jydnZ2d@comcast.com. ..
>
>>Pretty sure you are confusing this with another reaction.
>>Remember your hydrogen series where both magnesium and hydrogen are
>>classed as metals...
>>
>>Magnesium can be made to react with hydrogen to produce magnesium
>>hydride. It is not a simple reaction and typically requires a
>>catalytical halide or organic halide to create. Patent numbers of the
>>process available on request. Plus the reaction would never be termed
>>"burning" by any chem major.
>>
>>Magnesium reacts reasonably well with all of the halogens, and burning
>>magnesium cannot be extinguished with water, carbon dioxide, etc. since
>>it will break those apart and burn the resulting oxygen and leave behind
>>hydrogen or carbon.
>
>
>
>
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Re: 98 Jeep Wrangler and E85 fuel
Your experiment probably was the standard electrolysis, which generates
hydrogen and oxygen. If you put a small enough magnesium splinter in
the oxygen, particularly it it is at all wet, it would be expected to
react rather nicely. You should get a whitish smoke, magnesium oxide.
Trying it with hydrogen, not much will happen, as magnesium hydride is a
method for storing hydrogen... pretty easy to get the hydrogen loose
from the magnesium as opposed to trying to get the oxygen away from the
magnesium. The relative difficulty in splitting either one from the
magnesium compound is directly related to how readily they
combine...combine easy, split hard. Not that many schools would have
the equipment to make hydrogen combine with magnesium, plus it is a
multi step reaction and not overly spectacular.
L.W. (Bill) ------ III proclaimed:
> All I remember was we put two electrical probes into a glass of ad
> watched the bubbles come off them, trapping that gas (I thought I remembered
> it was Hydrogen) with a piece of paper across the top of the glass. then we
> transferred that gas to a glass without water, and with a knife shaved a
> splinter of this metal, I remember it was Magnesium as that was what the
> rims on my dragster were made of, not aluminum. Anyway we lifted that piece
> of paper covering the glass and threw in the shaving, where upon it exploded
> in fire. I could probably look the high school experiment up on the
> internet, but not today.
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
>
> "Lon" <lon.stowell@comcast.net> wrote in message
> news:1JGdnZeUgbfQ8NvbnZ2dnUVZ_jydnZ2d@comcast.com. ..
>
>>Pretty sure you are confusing this with another reaction.
>>Remember your hydrogen series where both magnesium and hydrogen are
>>classed as metals...
>>
>>Magnesium can be made to react with hydrogen to produce magnesium
>>hydride. It is not a simple reaction and typically requires a
>>catalytical halide or organic halide to create. Patent numbers of the
>>process available on request. Plus the reaction would never be termed
>>"burning" by any chem major.
>>
>>Magnesium reacts reasonably well with all of the halogens, and burning
>>magnesium cannot be extinguished with water, carbon dioxide, etc. since
>>it will break those apart and burn the resulting oxygen and leave behind
>>hydrogen or carbon.
>
>
>
>
hydrogen and oxygen. If you put a small enough magnesium splinter in
the oxygen, particularly it it is at all wet, it would be expected to
react rather nicely. You should get a whitish smoke, magnesium oxide.
Trying it with hydrogen, not much will happen, as magnesium hydride is a
method for storing hydrogen... pretty easy to get the hydrogen loose
from the magnesium as opposed to trying to get the oxygen away from the
magnesium. The relative difficulty in splitting either one from the
magnesium compound is directly related to how readily they
combine...combine easy, split hard. Not that many schools would have
the equipment to make hydrogen combine with magnesium, plus it is a
multi step reaction and not overly spectacular.
L.W. (Bill) ------ III proclaimed:
> All I remember was we put two electrical probes into a glass of ad
> watched the bubbles come off them, trapping that gas (I thought I remembered
> it was Hydrogen) with a piece of paper across the top of the glass. then we
> transferred that gas to a glass without water, and with a knife shaved a
> splinter of this metal, I remember it was Magnesium as that was what the
> rims on my dragster were made of, not aluminum. Anyway we lifted that piece
> of paper covering the glass and threw in the shaving, where upon it exploded
> in fire. I could probably look the high school experiment up on the
> internet, but not today.
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
>
> "Lon" <lon.stowell@comcast.net> wrote in message
> news:1JGdnZeUgbfQ8NvbnZ2dnUVZ_jydnZ2d@comcast.com. ..
>
>>Pretty sure you are confusing this with another reaction.
>>Remember your hydrogen series where both magnesium and hydrogen are
>>classed as metals...
>>
>>Magnesium can be made to react with hydrogen to produce magnesium
>>hydride. It is not a simple reaction and typically requires a
>>catalytical halide or organic halide to create. Patent numbers of the
>>process available on request. Plus the reaction would never be termed
>>"burning" by any chem major.
>>
>>Magnesium reacts reasonably well with all of the halogens, and burning
>>magnesium cannot be extinguished with water, carbon dioxide, etc. since
>>it will break those apart and burn the resulting oxygen and leave behind
>>hydrogen or carbon.
>
>
>
>
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Re: 98 Jeep Wrangler and E85 fuel
Your experiment probably was the standard electrolysis, which generates
hydrogen and oxygen. If you put a small enough magnesium splinter in
the oxygen, particularly it it is at all wet, it would be expected to
react rather nicely. You should get a whitish smoke, magnesium oxide.
Trying it with hydrogen, not much will happen, as magnesium hydride is a
method for storing hydrogen... pretty easy to get the hydrogen loose
from the magnesium as opposed to trying to get the oxygen away from the
magnesium. The relative difficulty in splitting either one from the
magnesium compound is directly related to how readily they
combine...combine easy, split hard. Not that many schools would have
the equipment to make hydrogen combine with magnesium, plus it is a
multi step reaction and not overly spectacular.
L.W. (Bill) ------ III proclaimed:
> All I remember was we put two electrical probes into a glass of ad
> watched the bubbles come off them, trapping that gas (I thought I remembered
> it was Hydrogen) with a piece of paper across the top of the glass. then we
> transferred that gas to a glass without water, and with a knife shaved a
> splinter of this metal, I remember it was Magnesium as that was what the
> rims on my dragster were made of, not aluminum. Anyway we lifted that piece
> of paper covering the glass and threw in the shaving, where upon it exploded
> in fire. I could probably look the high school experiment up on the
> internet, but not today.
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
>
> "Lon" <lon.stowell@comcast.net> wrote in message
> news:1JGdnZeUgbfQ8NvbnZ2dnUVZ_jydnZ2d@comcast.com. ..
>
>>Pretty sure you are confusing this with another reaction.
>>Remember your hydrogen series where both magnesium and hydrogen are
>>classed as metals...
>>
>>Magnesium can be made to react with hydrogen to produce magnesium
>>hydride. It is not a simple reaction and typically requires a
>>catalytical halide or organic halide to create. Patent numbers of the
>>process available on request. Plus the reaction would never be termed
>>"burning" by any chem major.
>>
>>Magnesium reacts reasonably well with all of the halogens, and burning
>>magnesium cannot be extinguished with water, carbon dioxide, etc. since
>>it will break those apart and burn the resulting oxygen and leave behind
>>hydrogen or carbon.
>
>
>
>
hydrogen and oxygen. If you put a small enough magnesium splinter in
the oxygen, particularly it it is at all wet, it would be expected to
react rather nicely. You should get a whitish smoke, magnesium oxide.
Trying it with hydrogen, not much will happen, as magnesium hydride is a
method for storing hydrogen... pretty easy to get the hydrogen loose
from the magnesium as opposed to trying to get the oxygen away from the
magnesium. The relative difficulty in splitting either one from the
magnesium compound is directly related to how readily they
combine...combine easy, split hard. Not that many schools would have
the equipment to make hydrogen combine with magnesium, plus it is a
multi step reaction and not overly spectacular.
L.W. (Bill) ------ III proclaimed:
> All I remember was we put two electrical probes into a glass of ad
> watched the bubbles come off them, trapping that gas (I thought I remembered
> it was Hydrogen) with a piece of paper across the top of the glass. then we
> transferred that gas to a glass without water, and with a knife shaved a
> splinter of this metal, I remember it was Magnesium as that was what the
> rims on my dragster were made of, not aluminum. Anyway we lifted that piece
> of paper covering the glass and threw in the shaving, where upon it exploded
> in fire. I could probably look the high school experiment up on the
> internet, but not today.
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
>
> "Lon" <lon.stowell@comcast.net> wrote in message
> news:1JGdnZeUgbfQ8NvbnZ2dnUVZ_jydnZ2d@comcast.com. ..
>
>>Pretty sure you are confusing this with another reaction.
>>Remember your hydrogen series where both magnesium and hydrogen are
>>classed as metals...
>>
>>Magnesium can be made to react with hydrogen to produce magnesium
>>hydride. It is not a simple reaction and typically requires a
>>catalytical halide or organic halide to create. Patent numbers of the
>>process available on request. Plus the reaction would never be termed
>>"burning" by any chem major.
>>
>>Magnesium reacts reasonably well with all of the halogens, and burning
>>magnesium cannot be extinguished with water, carbon dioxide, etc. since
>>it will break those apart and burn the resulting oxygen and leave behind
>>hydrogen or carbon.
>
>
>
>
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Re: 98 Jeep Wrangler and E85 fuel
Your experiment probably was the standard electrolysis, which generates
hydrogen and oxygen. If you put a small enough magnesium splinter in
the oxygen, particularly it it is at all wet, it would be expected to
react rather nicely. You should get a whitish smoke, magnesium oxide.
Trying it with hydrogen, not much will happen, as magnesium hydride is a
method for storing hydrogen... pretty easy to get the hydrogen loose
from the magnesium as opposed to trying to get the oxygen away from the
magnesium. The relative difficulty in splitting either one from the
magnesium compound is directly related to how readily they
combine...combine easy, split hard. Not that many schools would have
the equipment to make hydrogen combine with magnesium, plus it is a
multi step reaction and not overly spectacular.
L.W. (Bill) ------ III proclaimed:
> All I remember was we put two electrical probes into a glass of ad
> watched the bubbles come off them, trapping that gas (I thought I remembered
> it was Hydrogen) with a piece of paper across the top of the glass. then we
> transferred that gas to a glass without water, and with a knife shaved a
> splinter of this metal, I remember it was Magnesium as that was what the
> rims on my dragster were made of, not aluminum. Anyway we lifted that piece
> of paper covering the glass and threw in the shaving, where upon it exploded
> in fire. I could probably look the high school experiment up on the
> internet, but not today.
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
>
> "Lon" <lon.stowell@comcast.net> wrote in message
> news:1JGdnZeUgbfQ8NvbnZ2dnUVZ_jydnZ2d@comcast.com. ..
>
>>Pretty sure you are confusing this with another reaction.
>>Remember your hydrogen series where both magnesium and hydrogen are
>>classed as metals...
>>
>>Magnesium can be made to react with hydrogen to produce magnesium
>>hydride. It is not a simple reaction and typically requires a
>>catalytical halide or organic halide to create. Patent numbers of the
>>process available on request. Plus the reaction would never be termed
>>"burning" by any chem major.
>>
>>Magnesium reacts reasonably well with all of the halogens, and burning
>>magnesium cannot be extinguished with water, carbon dioxide, etc. since
>>it will break those apart and burn the resulting oxygen and leave behind
>>hydrogen or carbon.
>
>
>
>
hydrogen and oxygen. If you put a small enough magnesium splinter in
the oxygen, particularly it it is at all wet, it would be expected to
react rather nicely. You should get a whitish smoke, magnesium oxide.
Trying it with hydrogen, not much will happen, as magnesium hydride is a
method for storing hydrogen... pretty easy to get the hydrogen loose
from the magnesium as opposed to trying to get the oxygen away from the
magnesium. The relative difficulty in splitting either one from the
magnesium compound is directly related to how readily they
combine...combine easy, split hard. Not that many schools would have
the equipment to make hydrogen combine with magnesium, plus it is a
multi step reaction and not overly spectacular.
L.W. (Bill) ------ III proclaimed:
> All I remember was we put two electrical probes into a glass of ad
> watched the bubbles come off them, trapping that gas (I thought I remembered
> it was Hydrogen) with a piece of paper across the top of the glass. then we
> transferred that gas to a glass without water, and with a knife shaved a
> splinter of this metal, I remember it was Magnesium as that was what the
> rims on my dragster were made of, not aluminum. Anyway we lifted that piece
> of paper covering the glass and threw in the shaving, where upon it exploded
> in fire. I could probably look the high school experiment up on the
> internet, but not today.
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
>
> "Lon" <lon.stowell@comcast.net> wrote in message
> news:1JGdnZeUgbfQ8NvbnZ2dnUVZ_jydnZ2d@comcast.com. ..
>
>>Pretty sure you are confusing this with another reaction.
>>Remember your hydrogen series where both magnesium and hydrogen are
>>classed as metals...
>>
>>Magnesium can be made to react with hydrogen to produce magnesium
>>hydride. It is not a simple reaction and typically requires a
>>catalytical halide or organic halide to create. Patent numbers of the
>>process available on request. Plus the reaction would never be termed
>>"burning" by any chem major.
>>
>>Magnesium reacts reasonably well with all of the halogens, and burning
>>magnesium cannot be extinguished with water, carbon dioxide, etc. since
>>it will break those apart and burn the resulting oxygen and leave behind
>>hydrogen or carbon.
>
>
>
>
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Re: 98 Jeep Wrangler and E85 fuel
You have met Lucas, Prince of Darkness.
Earle
"L.W. (Bill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:46477c8f$0$13928$88260bb3@free.teranews.com.. .
> LOL As Princes Di used complain about, wanting to be a traitor and buy
a
> Krout car.
> My one English car experience was as '55 Austin Healey, aluminum body,
> wire knock offs, lay down windshield but if it was fogging it shorted out,
> and just stopped.
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
>
> "Lon" <lon.stowell@comcast.net> wrote in message
> news:FeadnfHlrcvx8tvbnZ2dnUVZ_tHinZ2d@comcast.com. ..
> > I *think* the Jags had this up to at least the '61 3.8S model, after
> > that stopped paying attention to Jag sedans, as they were all slightly
> > less reliable than a teenage mistress.
>
>
>
> --
> Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com
>
Earle
"L.W. (Bill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:46477c8f$0$13928$88260bb3@free.teranews.com.. .
> LOL As Princes Di used complain about, wanting to be a traitor and buy
a
> Krout car.
> My one English car experience was as '55 Austin Healey, aluminum body,
> wire knock offs, lay down windshield but if it was fogging it shorted out,
> and just stopped.
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
>
> "Lon" <lon.stowell@comcast.net> wrote in message
> news:FeadnfHlrcvx8tvbnZ2dnUVZ_tHinZ2d@comcast.com. ..
> > I *think* the Jags had this up to at least the '61 3.8S model, after
> > that stopped paying attention to Jag sedans, as they were all slightly
> > less reliable than a teenage mistress.
>
>
>
> --
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>
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Re: 98 Jeep Wrangler and E85 fuel
You have met Lucas, Prince of Darkness.
Earle
"L.W. (Bill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:46477c8f$0$13928$88260bb3@free.teranews.com.. .
> LOL As Princes Di used complain about, wanting to be a traitor and buy
a
> Krout car.
> My one English car experience was as '55 Austin Healey, aluminum body,
> wire knock offs, lay down windshield but if it was fogging it shorted out,
> and just stopped.
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
>
> "Lon" <lon.stowell@comcast.net> wrote in message
> news:FeadnfHlrcvx8tvbnZ2dnUVZ_tHinZ2d@comcast.com. ..
> > I *think* the Jags had this up to at least the '61 3.8S model, after
> > that stopped paying attention to Jag sedans, as they were all slightly
> > less reliable than a teenage mistress.
>
>
>
> --
> Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com
>
Earle
"L.W. (Bill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:46477c8f$0$13928$88260bb3@free.teranews.com.. .
> LOL As Princes Di used complain about, wanting to be a traitor and buy
a
> Krout car.
> My one English car experience was as '55 Austin Healey, aluminum body,
> wire knock offs, lay down windshield but if it was fogging it shorted out,
> and just stopped.
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
>
> "Lon" <lon.stowell@comcast.net> wrote in message
> news:FeadnfHlrcvx8tvbnZ2dnUVZ_tHinZ2d@comcast.com. ..
> > I *think* the Jags had this up to at least the '61 3.8S model, after
> > that stopped paying attention to Jag sedans, as they were all slightly
> > less reliable than a teenage mistress.
>
>
>
> --
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>
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Re: 98 Jeep Wrangler and E85 fuel
You have met Lucas, Prince of Darkness.
Earle
"L.W. (Bill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:46477c8f$0$13928$88260bb3@free.teranews.com.. .
> LOL As Princes Di used complain about, wanting to be a traitor and buy
a
> Krout car.
> My one English car experience was as '55 Austin Healey, aluminum body,
> wire knock offs, lay down windshield but if it was fogging it shorted out,
> and just stopped.
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
>
> "Lon" <lon.stowell@comcast.net> wrote in message
> news:FeadnfHlrcvx8tvbnZ2dnUVZ_tHinZ2d@comcast.com. ..
> > I *think* the Jags had this up to at least the '61 3.8S model, after
> > that stopped paying attention to Jag sedans, as they were all slightly
> > less reliable than a teenage mistress.
>
>
>
> --
> Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com
>
Earle
"L.W. (Bill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:46477c8f$0$13928$88260bb3@free.teranews.com.. .
> LOL As Princes Di used complain about, wanting to be a traitor and buy
a
> Krout car.
> My one English car experience was as '55 Austin Healey, aluminum body,
> wire knock offs, lay down windshield but if it was fogging it shorted out,
> and just stopped.
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
>
> "Lon" <lon.stowell@comcast.net> wrote in message
> news:FeadnfHlrcvx8tvbnZ2dnUVZ_tHinZ2d@comcast.com. ..
> > I *think* the Jags had this up to at least the '61 3.8S model, after
> > that stopped paying attention to Jag sedans, as they were all slightly
> > less reliable than a teenage mistress.
>
>
>
> --
> Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com
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Re: 98 Jeep Wrangler and E85 fuel
You have met Lucas, Prince of Darkness.
Earle
"L.W. (Bill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:46477c8f$0$13928$88260bb3@free.teranews.com.. .
> LOL As Princes Di used complain about, wanting to be a traitor and buy
a
> Krout car.
> My one English car experience was as '55 Austin Healey, aluminum body,
> wire knock offs, lay down windshield but if it was fogging it shorted out,
> and just stopped.
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
>
> "Lon" <lon.stowell@comcast.net> wrote in message
> news:FeadnfHlrcvx8tvbnZ2dnUVZ_tHinZ2d@comcast.com. ..
> > I *think* the Jags had this up to at least the '61 3.8S model, after
> > that stopped paying attention to Jag sedans, as they were all slightly
> > less reliable than a teenage mistress.
>
>
>
> --
> Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com
>
Earle
"L.W. (Bill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:46477c8f$0$13928$88260bb3@free.teranews.com.. .
> LOL As Princes Di used complain about, wanting to be a traitor and buy
a
> Krout car.
> My one English car experience was as '55 Austin Healey, aluminum body,
> wire knock offs, lay down windshield but if it was fogging it shorted out,
> and just stopped.
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
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> > I *think* the Jags had this up to at least the '61 3.8S model, after
> > that stopped paying attention to Jag sedans, as they were all slightly
> > less reliable than a teenage mistress.
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Re: 98 Jeep Wrangler and E85 fuel
"XS11E" <xs11eNO@SPAMyahoo.com> wrote in message
news:Xns992F80AFCC7FCxs11eyahoocom@69.28.173.184.. .
> herb@urusei.net (Herb Leong) wrote:
>
> > In article <1178731433.061923.236850@h2g2000hsg.googlegroups. com>,
> > nrs <neale_rs@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > #2) if it is obtained by separating from oxygen in water, then it
> > takes #more energy to seperate than you get back by burning.
> > Yes. That means you need a super-cheap source of electricity.
> > While solar panels are expensive, they are cheap to run (mostly
> > free--some soap and water to keep it clean and a regular going
> > over by the owner).
>
> I don't know for sure, but I've heard that solar panels require more
> energy to manufacture than they can produce over their entire life
> span.
>
> Anyone know if that's true or not?
>
I don't know either but this is the sort of thing that one hears about the
batteries and electronics in hybrid cars. In Albuquerque you can park for
free in city parking if you have one. That would almost make it worth
driving one.
Earle
news:Xns992F80AFCC7FCxs11eyahoocom@69.28.173.184.. .
> herb@urusei.net (Herb Leong) wrote:
>
> > In article <1178731433.061923.236850@h2g2000hsg.googlegroups. com>,
> > nrs <neale_rs@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > #2) if it is obtained by separating from oxygen in water, then it
> > takes #more energy to seperate than you get back by burning.
> > Yes. That means you need a super-cheap source of electricity.
> > While solar panels are expensive, they are cheap to run (mostly
> > free--some soap and water to keep it clean and a regular going
> > over by the owner).
>
> I don't know for sure, but I've heard that solar panels require more
> energy to manufacture than they can produce over their entire life
> span.
>
> Anyone know if that's true or not?
>
I don't know either but this is the sort of thing that one hears about the
batteries and electronics in hybrid cars. In Albuquerque you can park for
free in city parking if you have one. That would almost make it worth
driving one.
Earle
