98 Jeep Wrangler and E85 fuel
05-08-2007, 03:57 AM
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Re: 98 Jeep Wrangler and E85 fuel
Buy a car that's compatible using twice the fuel for half the energy:
http://consumerguideauto.howstuffwor...k-gold-cga.htm
The water in and that condense in alcohol will destroy your engine in no
time at all.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
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> 98 Jeep Wrangler and E85 fuel
>
> Anyone out there done the fuel system conversion for this or know if
> its even possible? If so please let me know what elements have to be
> changed.
>
> Thanks.
>
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> 98 Jeep Wrangler and E85 fuel
>
> Anyone out there done the fuel system conversion for this or know if
> its even possible? If so please let me know what elements have to be
> changed.
>
> Thanks.
>
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05-08-2007, 03:57 AM
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Re: 98 Jeep Wrangler and E85 fuel
Buy a car that's compatible using twice the fuel for half the energy:
http://consumerguideauto.howstuffwor...k-gold-cga.htm
The water in and that condense in alcohol will destroy your engine in no
time at all.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
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<micmcb@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> 98 Jeep Wrangler and E85 fuel
>
> Anyone out there done the fuel system conversion for this or know if
> its even possible? If so please let me know what elements have to be
> changed.
>
> Thanks.
>
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time at all.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
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<micmcb@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> 98 Jeep Wrangler and E85 fuel
>
> Anyone out there done the fuel system conversion for this or know if
> its even possible? If so please let me know what elements have to be
> changed.
>
> Thanks.
>
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05-08-2007, 03:57 AM
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Re: 98 Jeep Wrangler and E85 fuel
Buy a car that's compatible using twice the fuel for half the energy:
http://consumerguideauto.howstuffwor...k-gold-cga.htm
The water in and that condense in alcohol will destroy your engine in no
time at all.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
<micmcb@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> 98 Jeep Wrangler and E85 fuel
>
> Anyone out there done the fuel system conversion for this or know if
> its even possible? If so please let me know what elements have to be
> changed.
>
> Thanks.
>
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The water in and that condense in alcohol will destroy your engine in no
time at all.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
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<micmcb@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> 98 Jeep Wrangler and E85 fuel
>
> Anyone out there done the fuel system conversion for this or know if
> its even possible? If so please let me know what elements have to be
> changed.
>
> Thanks.
>
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05-08-2007, 03:57 AM
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Re: 98 Jeep Wrangler and E85 fuel
Buy a car that's compatible using twice the fuel for half the energy:
http://consumerguideauto.howstuffwor...k-gold-cga.htm
The water in and that condense in alcohol will destroy your engine in no
time at all.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
<micmcb@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> 98 Jeep Wrangler and E85 fuel
>
> Anyone out there done the fuel system conversion for this or know if
> its even possible? If so please let me know what elements have to be
> changed.
>
> Thanks.
>
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http://consumerguideauto.howstuffwor...k-gold-cga.htm
The water in and that condense in alcohol will destroy your engine in no
time at all.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
<micmcb@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> 98 Jeep Wrangler and E85 fuel
>
> Anyone out there done the fuel system conversion for this or know if
> its even possible? If so please let me know what elements have to be
> changed.
>
> Thanks.
>
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05-08-2007, 08:18 AM
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Re: Re: 98 Jeep Wrangler and E85 fuel
On Tue, 8 May 2007 00:57:31 -0700, "L.W. \(Bill\) ------ III"
<----------@***.net> wrote:
>The water in and that condense in alcohol will destroy your engine in no
>time at all.
Alchol is "O H" based for it can be corrosive to your fuel system and
also hard on some hoses. Also as stated before it has less energy per
gallon (about 40% for E85) si you will just more fuel too. Politicians
push E85 as our magic solution to our energy needs when it is not and
it actually increase CO2 emissions by about 40 to 50% too. This is
because Alchol is considered a preburnt fuel (has a high carbon
content) and you have to burn more of it to get same work and net
result is more CO2. The public wants to here that this is a solution
so it keeps the masses thinking that there is a solution. Also, if you
live in a really cold climate, E85 can be harder starting and really
get bad MPG during those times too. Bite the bullet and stay with gas
and maybe try running 89 for a while as you might find it is actually
a bit cheaper in long run if MPG improves.
-----------------
TheSnoMan.com
<----------@***.net> wrote:
>The water in and that condense in alcohol will destroy your engine in no
>time at all.
Alchol is "O H" based for it can be corrosive to your fuel system and
also hard on some hoses. Also as stated before it has less energy per
gallon (about 40% for E85) si you will just more fuel too. Politicians
push E85 as our magic solution to our energy needs when it is not and
it actually increase CO2 emissions by about 40 to 50% too. This is
because Alchol is considered a preburnt fuel (has a high carbon
content) and you have to burn more of it to get same work and net
result is more CO2. The public wants to here that this is a solution
so it keeps the masses thinking that there is a solution. Also, if you
live in a really cold climate, E85 can be harder starting and really
get bad MPG during those times too. Bite the bullet and stay with gas
and maybe try running 89 for a while as you might find it is actually
a bit cheaper in long run if MPG improves.
-----------------
TheSnoMan.com
05-08-2007, 08:18 AM
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Re: Re: 98 Jeep Wrangler and E85 fuel
On Tue, 8 May 2007 00:57:31 -0700, "L.W. \(Bill\) ------ III"
<----------@***.net> wrote:
>The water in and that condense in alcohol will destroy your engine in no
>time at all.
Alchol is "O H" based for it can be corrosive to your fuel system and
also hard on some hoses. Also as stated before it has less energy per
gallon (about 40% for E85) si you will just more fuel too. Politicians
push E85 as our magic solution to our energy needs when it is not and
it actually increase CO2 emissions by about 40 to 50% too. This is
because Alchol is considered a preburnt fuel (has a high carbon
content) and you have to burn more of it to get same work and net
result is more CO2. The public wants to here that this is a solution
so it keeps the masses thinking that there is a solution. Also, if you
live in a really cold climate, E85 can be harder starting and really
get bad MPG during those times too. Bite the bullet and stay with gas
and maybe try running 89 for a while as you might find it is actually
a bit cheaper in long run if MPG improves.
-----------------
TheSnoMan.com
<----------@***.net> wrote:
>The water in and that condense in alcohol will destroy your engine in no
>time at all.
Alchol is "O H" based for it can be corrosive to your fuel system and
also hard on some hoses. Also as stated before it has less energy per
gallon (about 40% for E85) si you will just more fuel too. Politicians
push E85 as our magic solution to our energy needs when it is not and
it actually increase CO2 emissions by about 40 to 50% too. This is
because Alchol is considered a preburnt fuel (has a high carbon
content) and you have to burn more of it to get same work and net
result is more CO2. The public wants to here that this is a solution
so it keeps the masses thinking that there is a solution. Also, if you
live in a really cold climate, E85 can be harder starting and really
get bad MPG during those times too. Bite the bullet and stay with gas
and maybe try running 89 for a while as you might find it is actually
a bit cheaper in long run if MPG improves.
-----------------
TheSnoMan.com
05-08-2007, 08:18 AM
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Re: Re: 98 Jeep Wrangler and E85 fuel
On Tue, 8 May 2007 00:57:31 -0700, "L.W. \(Bill\) ------ III"
<----------@***.net> wrote:
>The water in and that condense in alcohol will destroy your engine in no
>time at all.
Alchol is "O H" based for it can be corrosive to your fuel system and
also hard on some hoses. Also as stated before it has less energy per
gallon (about 40% for E85) si you will just more fuel too. Politicians
push E85 as our magic solution to our energy needs when it is not and
it actually increase CO2 emissions by about 40 to 50% too. This is
because Alchol is considered a preburnt fuel (has a high carbon
content) and you have to burn more of it to get same work and net
result is more CO2. The public wants to here that this is a solution
so it keeps the masses thinking that there is a solution. Also, if you
live in a really cold climate, E85 can be harder starting and really
get bad MPG during those times too. Bite the bullet and stay with gas
and maybe try running 89 for a while as you might find it is actually
a bit cheaper in long run if MPG improves.
-----------------
TheSnoMan.com
<----------@***.net> wrote:
>The water in and that condense in alcohol will destroy your engine in no
>time at all.
Alchol is "O H" based for it can be corrosive to your fuel system and
also hard on some hoses. Also as stated before it has less energy per
gallon (about 40% for E85) si you will just more fuel too. Politicians
push E85 as our magic solution to our energy needs when it is not and
it actually increase CO2 emissions by about 40 to 50% too. This is
because Alchol is considered a preburnt fuel (has a high carbon
content) and you have to burn more of it to get same work and net
result is more CO2. The public wants to here that this is a solution
so it keeps the masses thinking that there is a solution. Also, if you
live in a really cold climate, E85 can be harder starting and really
get bad MPG during those times too. Bite the bullet and stay with gas
and maybe try running 89 for a while as you might find it is actually
a bit cheaper in long run if MPG improves.
-----------------
TheSnoMan.com
05-08-2007, 08:18 AM
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Re: Re: 98 Jeep Wrangler and E85 fuel
On Tue, 8 May 2007 00:57:31 -0700, "L.W. \(Bill\) ------ III"
<----------@***.net> wrote:
>The water in and that condense in alcohol will destroy your engine in no
>time at all.
Alchol is "O H" based for it can be corrosive to your fuel system and
also hard on some hoses. Also as stated before it has less energy per
gallon (about 40% for E85) si you will just more fuel too. Politicians
push E85 as our magic solution to our energy needs when it is not and
it actually increase CO2 emissions by about 40 to 50% too. This is
because Alchol is considered a preburnt fuel (has a high carbon
content) and you have to burn more of it to get same work and net
result is more CO2. The public wants to here that this is a solution
so it keeps the masses thinking that there is a solution. Also, if you
live in a really cold climate, E85 can be harder starting and really
get bad MPG during those times too. Bite the bullet and stay with gas
and maybe try running 89 for a while as you might find it is actually
a bit cheaper in long run if MPG improves.
-----------------
TheSnoMan.com
<----------@***.net> wrote:
>The water in and that condense in alcohol will destroy your engine in no
>time at all.
Alchol is "O H" based for it can be corrosive to your fuel system and
also hard on some hoses. Also as stated before it has less energy per
gallon (about 40% for E85) si you will just more fuel too. Politicians
push E85 as our magic solution to our energy needs when it is not and
it actually increase CO2 emissions by about 40 to 50% too. This is
because Alchol is considered a preburnt fuel (has a high carbon
content) and you have to burn more of it to get same work and net
result is more CO2. The public wants to here that this is a solution
so it keeps the masses thinking that there is a solution. Also, if you
live in a really cold climate, E85 can be harder starting and really
get bad MPG during those times too. Bite the bullet and stay with gas
and maybe try running 89 for a while as you might find it is actually
a bit cheaper in long run if MPG improves.
-----------------
TheSnoMan.com
05-08-2007, 04:04 PM
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Re: 98 Jeep Wrangler and E85 fuel
micmcb@gmail.com wrote:
> 98 Jeep Wrangler and E85 fuel
>
> Anyone out there done the fuel system conversion for this or know if
> its even possible? If so please let me know what elements have to be
> changed.
>
> Thanks.
>
It is possible. There are companies out there making conversion kits,
add-on computers, etc. There are even some on Ebay now. Of course a lot
of these companies are claiming improve mileage, reduced emissions, etc.
While all of this is possible, just remember, like any other product,
there are quality items and junk items. I can believe the emissions
claims much more easy than I believe the mileage claims, but I am sure
as the technology grows, the mileage will get better. There is even a
fuel they are calling diesanol now, which is 98% ethanol and 2% diesel.
To me this would have more potential to reduce emissions and increase
power since ethanol has a high octane rating and could take advantage of
the compression ratio of a diesel engine.
The drawback to E85 is that it requires more fuel to make the same
amount of power if applied to the same engine. If the engine was
specifically built for E85, there are a lot of changes that could be
made to increase the power of the engine. the main one being the
compression ratio.
My suggestion is to do some research on the conversions, look for
independent studies (such as colleges), an then weigh the cost of the
conversion and a roughly 20-25% loss in fuel economy compared to just
continuing to use gasoline.
Chris
> 98 Jeep Wrangler and E85 fuel
>
> Anyone out there done the fuel system conversion for this or know if
> its even possible? If so please let me know what elements have to be
> changed.
>
> Thanks.
>
It is possible. There are companies out there making conversion kits,
add-on computers, etc. There are even some on Ebay now. Of course a lot
of these companies are claiming improve mileage, reduced emissions, etc.
While all of this is possible, just remember, like any other product,
there are quality items and junk items. I can believe the emissions
claims much more easy than I believe the mileage claims, but I am sure
as the technology grows, the mileage will get better. There is even a
fuel they are calling diesanol now, which is 98% ethanol and 2% diesel.
To me this would have more potential to reduce emissions and increase
power since ethanol has a high octane rating and could take advantage of
the compression ratio of a diesel engine.
The drawback to E85 is that it requires more fuel to make the same
amount of power if applied to the same engine. If the engine was
specifically built for E85, there are a lot of changes that could be
made to increase the power of the engine. the main one being the
compression ratio.
My suggestion is to do some research on the conversions, look for
independent studies (such as colleges), an then weigh the cost of the
conversion and a roughly 20-25% loss in fuel economy compared to just
continuing to use gasoline.
Chris
