98 Jeep Wrangler and E85 fuel
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Re: 98 Jeep Wrangler and E85 fuel
c wrote:
> LTS wrote:
>> coldfusion is a figment of the collective
>> scientific imagination
>
> Just as were meteorites.
>
> Just as was electricity.
>
> Just as was heavier-than-air flight.
>
> Just as was land travel past 50 mph.
>
> Just as was 'solar power'.
>
> Just as was nuclear power.
>
> I see you know as much about physics, the Universe and what exists
> out there (whether you approve or not), and general science as you know
> about nearly everything else.
>
> Zilch.
Just like his burning magnesium in hydrogen....
> LTS wrote:
>> coldfusion is a figment of the collective
>> scientific imagination
>
> Just as were meteorites.
>
> Just as was electricity.
>
> Just as was heavier-than-air flight.
>
> Just as was land travel past 50 mph.
>
> Just as was 'solar power'.
>
> Just as was nuclear power.
>
> I see you know as much about physics, the Universe and what exists
> out there (whether you approve or not), and general science as you know
> about nearly everything else.
>
> Zilch.
Just like his burning magnesium in hydrogen....
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Re: 98 Jeep Wrangler and E85 fuel
On 2007-05-11, Lon <lon.stowell@comcast.net> wrote:
> Ivan Jager proclaimed:
>
>> On 2007-05-08, c <c@me.org> wrote:
>>
>>>To me this would have more potential to reduce emissions and increase
>>>power since ethanol has a high octane rating and could take advantage of
>>>the compression ratio of a diesel engine.
>>
>>
>> The whole point of a Diesel engine is that you can get high compression
>> ratios without needing high octane fuel. In fact, if you had high
>> octane fuel that wouldn't self ignite, it wouldn't burn. Are you going
>> to suggest putting spark plugs in a Diesel engine? :D
>>
>> I would hazard a guess that the 2% Diesel is so that the fuel will burn.
>
> Alcohol burns nicely in a diesel cycle, as any model airplane hobbyist
> would be aware of as they do the inevitable castor oil two step.
> Alcohol and nitromethane burn even better just before your engine melts.
Ok, I wasn't sure about that. Any idea why they still mix in Diesel
then? Actually, everything I seem to find on the internet uses mostly
Diesel, rather than the 98% alcohol mentioned earlier in the thread.
Ivan
> Ivan Jager proclaimed:
>
>> On 2007-05-08, c <c@me.org> wrote:
>>
>>>To me this would have more potential to reduce emissions and increase
>>>power since ethanol has a high octane rating and could take advantage of
>>>the compression ratio of a diesel engine.
>>
>>
>> The whole point of a Diesel engine is that you can get high compression
>> ratios without needing high octane fuel. In fact, if you had high
>> octane fuel that wouldn't self ignite, it wouldn't burn. Are you going
>> to suggest putting spark plugs in a Diesel engine? :D
>>
>> I would hazard a guess that the 2% Diesel is so that the fuel will burn.
>
> Alcohol burns nicely in a diesel cycle, as any model airplane hobbyist
> would be aware of as they do the inevitable castor oil two step.
> Alcohol and nitromethane burn even better just before your engine melts.
Ok, I wasn't sure about that. Any idea why they still mix in Diesel
then? Actually, everything I seem to find on the internet uses mostly
Diesel, rather than the 98% alcohol mentioned earlier in the thread.
Ivan
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Re: 98 Jeep Wrangler and E85 fuel
On 2007-05-11, Lon <lon.stowell@comcast.net> wrote:
> Ivan Jager proclaimed:
>
>> On 2007-05-08, c <c@me.org> wrote:
>>
>>>To me this would have more potential to reduce emissions and increase
>>>power since ethanol has a high octane rating and could take advantage of
>>>the compression ratio of a diesel engine.
>>
>>
>> The whole point of a Diesel engine is that you can get high compression
>> ratios without needing high octane fuel. In fact, if you had high
>> octane fuel that wouldn't self ignite, it wouldn't burn. Are you going
>> to suggest putting spark plugs in a Diesel engine? :D
>>
>> I would hazard a guess that the 2% Diesel is so that the fuel will burn.
>
> Alcohol burns nicely in a diesel cycle, as any model airplane hobbyist
> would be aware of as they do the inevitable castor oil two step.
> Alcohol and nitromethane burn even better just before your engine melts.
Ok, I wasn't sure about that. Any idea why they still mix in Diesel
then? Actually, everything I seem to find on the internet uses mostly
Diesel, rather than the 98% alcohol mentioned earlier in the thread.
Ivan
> Ivan Jager proclaimed:
>
>> On 2007-05-08, c <c@me.org> wrote:
>>
>>>To me this would have more potential to reduce emissions and increase
>>>power since ethanol has a high octane rating and could take advantage of
>>>the compression ratio of a diesel engine.
>>
>>
>> The whole point of a Diesel engine is that you can get high compression
>> ratios without needing high octane fuel. In fact, if you had high
>> octane fuel that wouldn't self ignite, it wouldn't burn. Are you going
>> to suggest putting spark plugs in a Diesel engine? :D
>>
>> I would hazard a guess that the 2% Diesel is so that the fuel will burn.
>
> Alcohol burns nicely in a diesel cycle, as any model airplane hobbyist
> would be aware of as they do the inevitable castor oil two step.
> Alcohol and nitromethane burn even better just before your engine melts.
Ok, I wasn't sure about that. Any idea why they still mix in Diesel
then? Actually, everything I seem to find on the internet uses mostly
Diesel, rather than the 98% alcohol mentioned earlier in the thread.
Ivan
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Re: 98 Jeep Wrangler and E85 fuel
On 2007-05-11, Lon <lon.stowell@comcast.net> wrote:
> Ivan Jager proclaimed:
>
>> On 2007-05-08, c <c@me.org> wrote:
>>
>>>To me this would have more potential to reduce emissions and increase
>>>power since ethanol has a high octane rating and could take advantage of
>>>the compression ratio of a diesel engine.
>>
>>
>> The whole point of a Diesel engine is that you can get high compression
>> ratios without needing high octane fuel. In fact, if you had high
>> octane fuel that wouldn't self ignite, it wouldn't burn. Are you going
>> to suggest putting spark plugs in a Diesel engine? :D
>>
>> I would hazard a guess that the 2% Diesel is so that the fuel will burn.
>
> Alcohol burns nicely in a diesel cycle, as any model airplane hobbyist
> would be aware of as they do the inevitable castor oil two step.
> Alcohol and nitromethane burn even better just before your engine melts.
Ok, I wasn't sure about that. Any idea why they still mix in Diesel
then? Actually, everything I seem to find on the internet uses mostly
Diesel, rather than the 98% alcohol mentioned earlier in the thread.
Ivan
> Ivan Jager proclaimed:
>
>> On 2007-05-08, c <c@me.org> wrote:
>>
>>>To me this would have more potential to reduce emissions and increase
>>>power since ethanol has a high octane rating and could take advantage of
>>>the compression ratio of a diesel engine.
>>
>>
>> The whole point of a Diesel engine is that you can get high compression
>> ratios without needing high octane fuel. In fact, if you had high
>> octane fuel that wouldn't self ignite, it wouldn't burn. Are you going
>> to suggest putting spark plugs in a Diesel engine? :D
>>
>> I would hazard a guess that the 2% Diesel is so that the fuel will burn.
>
> Alcohol burns nicely in a diesel cycle, as any model airplane hobbyist
> would be aware of as they do the inevitable castor oil two step.
> Alcohol and nitromethane burn even better just before your engine melts.
Ok, I wasn't sure about that. Any idea why they still mix in Diesel
then? Actually, everything I seem to find on the internet uses mostly
Diesel, rather than the 98% alcohol mentioned earlier in the thread.
Ivan
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Re: 98 Jeep Wrangler and E85 fuel
On 2007-05-11, Lon <lon.stowell@comcast.net> wrote:
> Ivan Jager proclaimed:
>
>> On 2007-05-08, c <c@me.org> wrote:
>>
>>>To me this would have more potential to reduce emissions and increase
>>>power since ethanol has a high octane rating and could take advantage of
>>>the compression ratio of a diesel engine.
>>
>>
>> The whole point of a Diesel engine is that you can get high compression
>> ratios without needing high octane fuel. In fact, if you had high
>> octane fuel that wouldn't self ignite, it wouldn't burn. Are you going
>> to suggest putting spark plugs in a Diesel engine? :D
>>
>> I would hazard a guess that the 2% Diesel is so that the fuel will burn.
>
> Alcohol burns nicely in a diesel cycle, as any model airplane hobbyist
> would be aware of as they do the inevitable castor oil two step.
> Alcohol and nitromethane burn even better just before your engine melts.
Ok, I wasn't sure about that. Any idea why they still mix in Diesel
then? Actually, everything I seem to find on the internet uses mostly
Diesel, rather than the 98% alcohol mentioned earlier in the thread.
Ivan
> Ivan Jager proclaimed:
>
>> On 2007-05-08, c <c@me.org> wrote:
>>
>>>To me this would have more potential to reduce emissions and increase
>>>power since ethanol has a high octane rating and could take advantage of
>>>the compression ratio of a diesel engine.
>>
>>
>> The whole point of a Diesel engine is that you can get high compression
>> ratios without needing high octane fuel. In fact, if you had high
>> octane fuel that wouldn't self ignite, it wouldn't burn. Are you going
>> to suggest putting spark plugs in a Diesel engine? :D
>>
>> I would hazard a guess that the 2% Diesel is so that the fuel will burn.
>
> Alcohol burns nicely in a diesel cycle, as any model airplane hobbyist
> would be aware of as they do the inevitable castor oil two step.
> Alcohol and nitromethane burn even better just before your engine melts.
Ok, I wasn't sure about that. Any idea why they still mix in Diesel
then? Actually, everything I seem to find on the internet uses mostly
Diesel, rather than the 98% alcohol mentioned earlier in the thread.
Ivan
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Re: 98 Jeep Wrangler and E85 fuel
Ivan Jager wrote:
> On 2007-05-11, Lon <lon.stowell@comcast.net> wrote:
>> Ivan Jager proclaimed:
>>
>>> On 2007-05-08, c <c@me.org> wrote:
>>>
>>>> To me this would have more potential to reduce emissions and increase
>>>> power since ethanol has a high octane rating and could take advantage of
>>>> the compression ratio of a diesel engine.
>>>
>>> The whole point of a Diesel engine is that you can get high compression
>>> ratios without needing high octane fuel. In fact, if you had high
>>> octane fuel that wouldn't self ignite, it wouldn't burn. Are you going
>>> to suggest putting spark plugs in a Diesel engine? :D
>>>
>>> I would hazard a guess that the 2% Diesel is so that the fuel will burn.
>> Alcohol burns nicely in a diesel cycle, as any model airplane hobbyist
>> would be aware of as they do the inevitable castor oil two step.
>> Alcohol and nitromethane burn even better just before your engine melts.
>
> Ok, I wasn't sure about that. Any idea why they still mix in Diesel
> then? Actually, everything I seem to find on the internet uses mostly
> Diesel, rather than the 98% alcohol mentioned earlier in the thread.
>
> Ivan
My guess would be lubrication. Racers that use alcohol commonly add
something called "top end lube" to their fuel to replenish the oil
washed away from certain engine components by the alcohol.
http://www.blendzall.com/
The product is about half way down the page.
Chris
> On 2007-05-11, Lon <lon.stowell@comcast.net> wrote:
>> Ivan Jager proclaimed:
>>
>>> On 2007-05-08, c <c@me.org> wrote:
>>>
>>>> To me this would have more potential to reduce emissions and increase
>>>> power since ethanol has a high octane rating and could take advantage of
>>>> the compression ratio of a diesel engine.
>>>
>>> The whole point of a Diesel engine is that you can get high compression
>>> ratios without needing high octane fuel. In fact, if you had high
>>> octane fuel that wouldn't self ignite, it wouldn't burn. Are you going
>>> to suggest putting spark plugs in a Diesel engine? :D
>>>
>>> I would hazard a guess that the 2% Diesel is so that the fuel will burn.
>> Alcohol burns nicely in a diesel cycle, as any model airplane hobbyist
>> would be aware of as they do the inevitable castor oil two step.
>> Alcohol and nitromethane burn even better just before your engine melts.
>
> Ok, I wasn't sure about that. Any idea why they still mix in Diesel
> then? Actually, everything I seem to find on the internet uses mostly
> Diesel, rather than the 98% alcohol mentioned earlier in the thread.
>
> Ivan
My guess would be lubrication. Racers that use alcohol commonly add
something called "top end lube" to their fuel to replenish the oil
washed away from certain engine components by the alcohol.
http://www.blendzall.com/
The product is about half way down the page.
Chris
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Re: 98 Jeep Wrangler and E85 fuel
Ivan Jager wrote:
> On 2007-05-11, Lon <lon.stowell@comcast.net> wrote:
>> Ivan Jager proclaimed:
>>
>>> On 2007-05-08, c <c@me.org> wrote:
>>>
>>>> To me this would have more potential to reduce emissions and increase
>>>> power since ethanol has a high octane rating and could take advantage of
>>>> the compression ratio of a diesel engine.
>>>
>>> The whole point of a Diesel engine is that you can get high compression
>>> ratios without needing high octane fuel. In fact, if you had high
>>> octane fuel that wouldn't self ignite, it wouldn't burn. Are you going
>>> to suggest putting spark plugs in a Diesel engine? :D
>>>
>>> I would hazard a guess that the 2% Diesel is so that the fuel will burn.
>> Alcohol burns nicely in a diesel cycle, as any model airplane hobbyist
>> would be aware of as they do the inevitable castor oil two step.
>> Alcohol and nitromethane burn even better just before your engine melts.
>
> Ok, I wasn't sure about that. Any idea why they still mix in Diesel
> then? Actually, everything I seem to find on the internet uses mostly
> Diesel, rather than the 98% alcohol mentioned earlier in the thread.
>
> Ivan
My guess would be lubrication. Racers that use alcohol commonly add
something called "top end lube" to their fuel to replenish the oil
washed away from certain engine components by the alcohol.
http://www.blendzall.com/
The product is about half way down the page.
Chris
> On 2007-05-11, Lon <lon.stowell@comcast.net> wrote:
>> Ivan Jager proclaimed:
>>
>>> On 2007-05-08, c <c@me.org> wrote:
>>>
>>>> To me this would have more potential to reduce emissions and increase
>>>> power since ethanol has a high octane rating and could take advantage of
>>>> the compression ratio of a diesel engine.
>>>
>>> The whole point of a Diesel engine is that you can get high compression
>>> ratios without needing high octane fuel. In fact, if you had high
>>> octane fuel that wouldn't self ignite, it wouldn't burn. Are you going
>>> to suggest putting spark plugs in a Diesel engine? :D
>>>
>>> I would hazard a guess that the 2% Diesel is so that the fuel will burn.
>> Alcohol burns nicely in a diesel cycle, as any model airplane hobbyist
>> would be aware of as they do the inevitable castor oil two step.
>> Alcohol and nitromethane burn even better just before your engine melts.
>
> Ok, I wasn't sure about that. Any idea why they still mix in Diesel
> then? Actually, everything I seem to find on the internet uses mostly
> Diesel, rather than the 98% alcohol mentioned earlier in the thread.
>
> Ivan
My guess would be lubrication. Racers that use alcohol commonly add
something called "top end lube" to their fuel to replenish the oil
washed away from certain engine components by the alcohol.
http://www.blendzall.com/
The product is about half way down the page.
Chris
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Re: 98 Jeep Wrangler and E85 fuel
Ivan Jager wrote:
> On 2007-05-11, Lon <lon.stowell@comcast.net> wrote:
>> Ivan Jager proclaimed:
>>
>>> On 2007-05-08, c <c@me.org> wrote:
>>>
>>>> To me this would have more potential to reduce emissions and increase
>>>> power since ethanol has a high octane rating and could take advantage of
>>>> the compression ratio of a diesel engine.
>>>
>>> The whole point of a Diesel engine is that you can get high compression
>>> ratios without needing high octane fuel. In fact, if you had high
>>> octane fuel that wouldn't self ignite, it wouldn't burn. Are you going
>>> to suggest putting spark plugs in a Diesel engine? :D
>>>
>>> I would hazard a guess that the 2% Diesel is so that the fuel will burn.
>> Alcohol burns nicely in a diesel cycle, as any model airplane hobbyist
>> would be aware of as they do the inevitable castor oil two step.
>> Alcohol and nitromethane burn even better just before your engine melts.
>
> Ok, I wasn't sure about that. Any idea why they still mix in Diesel
> then? Actually, everything I seem to find on the internet uses mostly
> Diesel, rather than the 98% alcohol mentioned earlier in the thread.
>
> Ivan
My guess would be lubrication. Racers that use alcohol commonly add
something called "top end lube" to their fuel to replenish the oil
washed away from certain engine components by the alcohol.
http://www.blendzall.com/
The product is about half way down the page.
Chris
> On 2007-05-11, Lon <lon.stowell@comcast.net> wrote:
>> Ivan Jager proclaimed:
>>
>>> On 2007-05-08, c <c@me.org> wrote:
>>>
>>>> To me this would have more potential to reduce emissions and increase
>>>> power since ethanol has a high octane rating and could take advantage of
>>>> the compression ratio of a diesel engine.
>>>
>>> The whole point of a Diesel engine is that you can get high compression
>>> ratios without needing high octane fuel. In fact, if you had high
>>> octane fuel that wouldn't self ignite, it wouldn't burn. Are you going
>>> to suggest putting spark plugs in a Diesel engine? :D
>>>
>>> I would hazard a guess that the 2% Diesel is so that the fuel will burn.
>> Alcohol burns nicely in a diesel cycle, as any model airplane hobbyist
>> would be aware of as they do the inevitable castor oil two step.
>> Alcohol and nitromethane burn even better just before your engine melts.
>
> Ok, I wasn't sure about that. Any idea why they still mix in Diesel
> then? Actually, everything I seem to find on the internet uses mostly
> Diesel, rather than the 98% alcohol mentioned earlier in the thread.
>
> Ivan
My guess would be lubrication. Racers that use alcohol commonly add
something called "top end lube" to their fuel to replenish the oil
washed away from certain engine components by the alcohol.
http://www.blendzall.com/
The product is about half way down the page.
Chris
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Re: 98 Jeep Wrangler and E85 fuel
Ivan Jager wrote:
> On 2007-05-11, Lon <lon.stowell@comcast.net> wrote:
>> Ivan Jager proclaimed:
>>
>>> On 2007-05-08, c <c@me.org> wrote:
>>>
>>>> To me this would have more potential to reduce emissions and increase
>>>> power since ethanol has a high octane rating and could take advantage of
>>>> the compression ratio of a diesel engine.
>>>
>>> The whole point of a Diesel engine is that you can get high compression
>>> ratios without needing high octane fuel. In fact, if you had high
>>> octane fuel that wouldn't self ignite, it wouldn't burn. Are you going
>>> to suggest putting spark plugs in a Diesel engine? :D
>>>
>>> I would hazard a guess that the 2% Diesel is so that the fuel will burn.
>> Alcohol burns nicely in a diesel cycle, as any model airplane hobbyist
>> would be aware of as they do the inevitable castor oil two step.
>> Alcohol and nitromethane burn even better just before your engine melts.
>
> Ok, I wasn't sure about that. Any idea why they still mix in Diesel
> then? Actually, everything I seem to find on the internet uses mostly
> Diesel, rather than the 98% alcohol mentioned earlier in the thread.
>
> Ivan
My guess would be lubrication. Racers that use alcohol commonly add
something called "top end lube" to their fuel to replenish the oil
washed away from certain engine components by the alcohol.
http://www.blendzall.com/
The product is about half way down the page.
Chris
> On 2007-05-11, Lon <lon.stowell@comcast.net> wrote:
>> Ivan Jager proclaimed:
>>
>>> On 2007-05-08, c <c@me.org> wrote:
>>>
>>>> To me this would have more potential to reduce emissions and increase
>>>> power since ethanol has a high octane rating and could take advantage of
>>>> the compression ratio of a diesel engine.
>>>
>>> The whole point of a Diesel engine is that you can get high compression
>>> ratios without needing high octane fuel. In fact, if you had high
>>> octane fuel that wouldn't self ignite, it wouldn't burn. Are you going
>>> to suggest putting spark plugs in a Diesel engine? :D
>>>
>>> I would hazard a guess that the 2% Diesel is so that the fuel will burn.
>> Alcohol burns nicely in a diesel cycle, as any model airplane hobbyist
>> would be aware of as they do the inevitable castor oil two step.
>> Alcohol and nitromethane burn even better just before your engine melts.
>
> Ok, I wasn't sure about that. Any idea why they still mix in Diesel
> then? Actually, everything I seem to find on the internet uses mostly
> Diesel, rather than the 98% alcohol mentioned earlier in the thread.
>
> Ivan
My guess would be lubrication. Racers that use alcohol commonly add
something called "top end lube" to their fuel to replenish the oil
washed away from certain engine components by the alcohol.
http://www.blendzall.com/
The product is about half way down the page.
Chris
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Re: 98 Jeep Wrangler and E85 fuel
Lets just note that Bill is smarter than you and leave it at that.
He might have failed to note the sarcasm in the original comment, but at
least he knew about cold fusion.
c proclaimed:
>
>>coldfusion is a figment of the collective
>>scientific imagination
>
>
> Just as were meteorites.
>
> Just as was electricity.
>
> Just as was heavier-than-air flight.
>
> Just as was land travel past 50 mph.
>
> Just as was 'solar power'.
>
> Just as was nuclear power.
>
> I see you know as much about physics, the Universe and what exists
> out there (whether you approve or not), and general science as you know
> about nearly everything else.
>
> Zilch.
>
>
> And it's 2 separate words: cold fusion.
>
>
>
>
He might have failed to note the sarcasm in the original comment, but at
least he knew about cold fusion.
c proclaimed:
>
>>coldfusion is a figment of the collective
>>scientific imagination
>
>
> Just as were meteorites.
>
> Just as was electricity.
>
> Just as was heavier-than-air flight.
>
> Just as was land travel past 50 mph.
>
> Just as was 'solar power'.
>
> Just as was nuclear power.
>
> I see you know as much about physics, the Universe and what exists
> out there (whether you approve or not), and general science as you know
> about nearly everything else.
>
> Zilch.
>
>
> And it's 2 separate words: cold fusion.
>
>
>
>