FINALLY
they replace the parts i was suggest first the CPS and voila.... my baby is
running again ! im so happy thanks to everyone who help me on this one. im gonna drink a good cold one tonight Pat -- -- LE CLONE 279 Notre-Dame Gatineau, Qc J8P 1K6 (819) 643-0511 SANS FRAIS 1 888 643 0511 patrick@leclone.com www.leclone.com "Le CLone" <Le-clone@bellnet.ca> wrote in message news:nSskd.24612$km5.1244867@news20.bellglobal.com ... > Well i made them order the sensor today, i have a feeling this is it, and it > been a week they are trying to find the problem !!!! > > I think i will have argument when the bill will come in. > > Pat > > -- > LE CLONE > > 279 Notre-Dame > Gatineau, Qc > J8P 1K6 > (819) 643-0511 > SANS FRAIS 1 888 643 0511 > > patrick@leclone.com > www.leclone.com > "mic canic" <dbrider@cac.net> wrote in message > news:4190D9E6.EBD9FA9E@cac.net... > > i wrench at a jeep dealer and in a month i see zero no starts resulting > from bad > > grounds and at least2 a month with bad crank sensors esp. on the 4.0 > > once the engine is running u can disconnect the dist. wires and it will > stay > > running it's not used until it's shut off and restarted and the pcm needs > to > > know were the cam sync. is > > now it may be a rear bird that has a bad ground but law of averages are > against > > it > > > > Le CLone wrote: > > > > > Using a test light we are able to get ground from various parts on the > > > engine, > > > > > > Assuming that the sensor quit while i was using the vehicules, because > the > > > day before it ran fine except it never start the day after, what sensor > it > > > essential for the vehicule to start but is not required when the > vehicules > > > is running ? > > > > > > -- > > > LE CLONE > > > > > > 279 Notre-Dame > > > Gatineau, Qc > > > J8P 1K6 > > > (819) 643-0511 > > > SANS FRAIS 1 888 643 0511 > > > > > > le-clone@bellnet.ca > > > www.leclone.com > > > "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message > > > news:4190F182.252BD632@sympatico.ca... > > > > Busted ground man...... > > > > > > > > You live in the 'classic' rust belt so bad that your axles are rotting > > > > away right? > > > > > > > > Have you changed the open wire mesh ground from the engine to the > > > > firewall yet? > > > > > > > > Do you think that open mesh wire should last longer then a solid steel > > > > axle? > > > > > > > > Believe me, they rot 'way' faster than axles....... > > > > > > > > Mike > > > > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00 > > > > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's > > > > > > > > Le CLone wrote: > > > > > > > > > > well they got the new computer today and the jeep still does not > start > > > !!!!! > > > > > now im really stuck behind the mechanic and my 0- knownledge in > > > > > electric..... > > > > > > > > > > pat > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > -- > > > > > LE CLONE > > > > > > > > > > 279 Notre-Dame > > > > > Gatineau, Qc > > > > > J8P 1K6 > > > > > (819) 643-0511 > > > > > SANS FRAIS 1 888 643 0511 > > > > > > > > > > le-clone@bellnet.ca > > > > > www.leclone.com > > > > > "mic canic" <dbrider@cac.net> wrote in message > > > > > news:418CB96C.A135C40A@cac.net... > > > > > > careful !alot of cheaper scan tools will do that because they have > > > limited > > > > > > software that interfaces with the vehicle > > > > > > i see it all the time with snapon even > > > > > > take it to a dealer you trust it will be cheaper inthe long run > > > > > > > > > > > > Le CLone wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > Everything seem to lead to a bad computer, when he connect is > scan > > > tools > > > > > it > > > > > > > get not code and an error reporting to put the key on. + their > is > > > > > various > > > > > > > cable that have no power. He said that their is aftermarket > computer > > > > > > > available for my GC. DC want 585 CAN + tx for a new one...... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I just hope this is not a trial and error because it's getting > > > > > expensive. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Pat > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > LE CLONE > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 279 Notre-Dame > > > > > > > Gatineau, Qc > > > > > > > J8P 1K6 > > > > > > > (819) 643-0511 > > > > > > > SANS FRAIS 1 888 643 0511 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > le-clone@bellnet.ca > > > > > > > www.leclone.com > > > > > > > "DougW" <post.replies@invalid.address> wrote in message > > > > > > > news:LkKid.98511$tU4.89125@okepread06... > > > > > > > > mic canic did pass the time by typing: > > > > > > > > > needs a crank sensor won't get either with a bad one > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This might help. > > > > > > > > http://members.cox.net/wilsond/cps/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I've had no-fuel, no-spark, caused by a bad ignition coil. > > > > > > > > The ASD (automatic shutdown relay) will turn off power to > > > > > > > > both the coil and the fuel pump if the jeep does not start > > > > > > > > in the first two to three engine revolutions. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Le CLone wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> My mechanic has just reported me that he does not get fuel > or > > > > > spark... > > > > > > > ? > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > |
Re: FINALLY
That's the same way my Brother learned, only the Stealership
charged him two grand the first time. God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/ Le CLone wrote: > > they replace the parts i was suggest first the CPS and voila.... my baby is > running again ! > im so happy > thanks to everyone who help me on this one. > > im gonna drink a good cold one tonight > > Pat > > -- > -- > LE CLONE > > 279 Notre-Dame > Gatineau, Qc > J8P 1K6 > (819) 643-0511 > SANS FRAIS 1 888 643 0511 > > patrick@leclone.com > www.leclone.com > "Le CLone" <Le-clone@bellnet.ca> wrote in message > news:nSskd.24612$km5.1244867@news20.bellglobal.com ... > > Well i made them order the sensor today, i have a feeling this is it, and > it > > been a week they are trying to find the problem !!!! > > > > I think i will have argument when the bill will come in. > > > > Pat > > > > -- > > LE CLONE > > > > 279 Notre-Dame > > Gatineau, Qc > > J8P 1K6 > > (819) 643-0511 > > SANS FRAIS 1 888 643 0511 > > > > patrick@leclone.com > > www.leclone.com > > "mic canic" <dbrider@cac.net> wrote in message > > news:4190D9E6.EBD9FA9E@cac.net... > > > i wrench at a jeep dealer and in a month i see zero no starts resulting > > from bad > > > grounds and at least2 a month with bad crank sensors esp. on the 4.0 > > > once the engine is running u can disconnect the dist. wires and it will > > stay > > > running it's not used until it's shut off and restarted and the pcm > needs > > to > > > know were the cam sync. is > > > now it may be a rear bird that has a bad ground but law of averages are > > against > > > it > > > > > > Le CLone wrote: > > > > > > > Using a test light we are able to get ground from various parts on the > > > > engine, > > > > > > > > Assuming that the sensor quit while i was using the vehicules, because > > the > > > > day before it ran fine except it never start the day after, what > sensor > > it > > > > essential for the vehicule to start but is not required when the > > vehicules > > > > is running ? > > > > > > > > -- > > > > LE CLONE > > > > > > > > 279 Notre-Dame > > > > Gatineau, Qc > > > > J8P 1K6 > > > > (819) 643-0511 > > > > SANS FRAIS 1 888 643 0511 > > > > > > > > le-clone@bellnet.ca > > > > www.leclone.com > > > > "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message > > > > news:4190F182.252BD632@sympatico.ca... > > > > > Busted ground man...... > > > > > > > > > > You live in the 'classic' rust belt so bad that your axles are > rotting > > > > > away right? > > > > > > > > > > Have you changed the open wire mesh ground from the engine to the > > > > > firewall yet? > > > > > > > > > > Do you think that open mesh wire should last longer then a solid > steel > > > > > axle? > > > > > > > > > > Believe me, they rot 'way' faster than axles....... > > > > > > > > > > Mike > > > > > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00 > > > > > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's > > > > > > > > > > Le CLone wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > well they got the new computer today and the jeep still does not > > start > > > > !!!!! > > > > > > now im really stuck behind the mechanic and my 0- knownledge in > > > > > > electric..... > > > > > > > > > > > > pat > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > -- > > > > > > LE CLONE > > > > > > > > > > > > 279 Notre-Dame > > > > > > Gatineau, Qc > > > > > > J8P 1K6 > > > > > > (819) 643-0511 > > > > > > SANS FRAIS 1 888 643 0511 > > > > > > > > > > > > le-clone@bellnet.ca > > > > > > www.leclone.com > > > > > > "mic canic" <dbrider@cac.net> wrote in message > > > > > > news:418CB96C.A135C40A@cac.net... > > > > > > > careful !alot of cheaper scan tools will do that because they > have > > > > limited > > > > > > > software that interfaces with the vehicle > > > > > > > i see it all the time with snapon even > > > > > > > take it to a dealer you trust it will be cheaper inthe long run > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Le CLone wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Everything seem to lead to a bad computer, when he connect is > > scan > > > > tools > > > > > > it > > > > > > > > get not code and an error reporting to put the key on. + their > > is > > > > > > various > > > > > > > > cable that have no power. He said that their is aftermarket > > computer > > > > > > > > available for my GC. DC want 585 CAN + tx for a new one...... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I just hope this is not a trial and error because it's getting > > > > > > expensive. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Pat > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > > LE CLONE > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 279 Notre-Dame > > > > > > > > Gatineau, Qc > > > > > > > > J8P 1K6 > > > > > > > > (819) 643-0511 > > > > > > > > SANS FRAIS 1 888 643 0511 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > le-clone@bellnet.ca > > > > > > > > www.leclone.com > > > > > > > > "DougW" <post.replies@invalid.address> wrote in message > > > > > > > > news:LkKid.98511$tU4.89125@okepread06... > > > > > > > > > mic canic did pass the time by typing: > > > > > > > > > > needs a crank sensor won't get either with a bad one > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This might help. > > > > > > > > > http://members.cox.net/wilsond/cps/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I've had no-fuel, no-spark, caused by a bad ignition coil. > > > > > > > > > The ASD (automatic shutdown relay) will turn off power to > > > > > > > > > both the coil and the fuel pump if the jeep does not start > > > > > > > > > in the first two to three engine revolutions. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Le CLone wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> My mechanic has just reported me that he does not get > fuel > > or > > > > > > spark... > > > > > > > > ? > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > |
Re: FINALLY
That's the same way my Brother learned, only the Stealership
charged him two grand the first time. God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/ Le CLone wrote: > > they replace the parts i was suggest first the CPS and voila.... my baby is > running again ! > im so happy > thanks to everyone who help me on this one. > > im gonna drink a good cold one tonight > > Pat > > -- > -- > LE CLONE > > 279 Notre-Dame > Gatineau, Qc > J8P 1K6 > (819) 643-0511 > SANS FRAIS 1 888 643 0511 > > patrick@leclone.com > www.leclone.com > "Le CLone" <Le-clone@bellnet.ca> wrote in message > news:nSskd.24612$km5.1244867@news20.bellglobal.com ... > > Well i made them order the sensor today, i have a feeling this is it, and > it > > been a week they are trying to find the problem !!!! > > > > I think i will have argument when the bill will come in. > > > > Pat > > > > -- > > LE CLONE > > > > 279 Notre-Dame > > Gatineau, Qc > > J8P 1K6 > > (819) 643-0511 > > SANS FRAIS 1 888 643 0511 > > > > patrick@leclone.com > > www.leclone.com > > "mic canic" <dbrider@cac.net> wrote in message > > news:4190D9E6.EBD9FA9E@cac.net... > > > i wrench at a jeep dealer and in a month i see zero no starts resulting > > from bad > > > grounds and at least2 a month with bad crank sensors esp. on the 4.0 > > > once the engine is running u can disconnect the dist. wires and it will > > stay > > > running it's not used until it's shut off and restarted and the pcm > needs > > to > > > know were the cam sync. is > > > now it may be a rear bird that has a bad ground but law of averages are > > against > > > it > > > > > > Le CLone wrote: > > > > > > > Using a test light we are able to get ground from various parts on the > > > > engine, > > > > > > > > Assuming that the sensor quit while i was using the vehicules, because > > the > > > > day before it ran fine except it never start the day after, what > sensor > > it > > > > essential for the vehicule to start but is not required when the > > vehicules > > > > is running ? > > > > > > > > -- > > > > LE CLONE > > > > > > > > 279 Notre-Dame > > > > Gatineau, Qc > > > > J8P 1K6 > > > > (819) 643-0511 > > > > SANS FRAIS 1 888 643 0511 > > > > > > > > le-clone@bellnet.ca > > > > www.leclone.com > > > > "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message > > > > news:4190F182.252BD632@sympatico.ca... > > > > > Busted ground man...... > > > > > > > > > > You live in the 'classic' rust belt so bad that your axles are > rotting > > > > > away right? > > > > > > > > > > Have you changed the open wire mesh ground from the engine to the > > > > > firewall yet? > > > > > > > > > > Do you think that open mesh wire should last longer then a solid > steel > > > > > axle? > > > > > > > > > > Believe me, they rot 'way' faster than axles....... > > > > > > > > > > Mike > > > > > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00 > > > > > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's > > > > > > > > > > Le CLone wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > well they got the new computer today and the jeep still does not > > start > > > > !!!!! > > > > > > now im really stuck behind the mechanic and my 0- knownledge in > > > > > > electric..... > > > > > > > > > > > > pat > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > -- > > > > > > LE CLONE > > > > > > > > > > > > 279 Notre-Dame > > > > > > Gatineau, Qc > > > > > > J8P 1K6 > > > > > > (819) 643-0511 > > > > > > SANS FRAIS 1 888 643 0511 > > > > > > > > > > > > le-clone@bellnet.ca > > > > > > www.leclone.com > > > > > > "mic canic" <dbrider@cac.net> wrote in message > > > > > > news:418CB96C.A135C40A@cac.net... > > > > > > > careful !alot of cheaper scan tools will do that because they > have > > > > limited > > > > > > > software that interfaces with the vehicle > > > > > > > i see it all the time with snapon even > > > > > > > take it to a dealer you trust it will be cheaper inthe long run > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Le CLone wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Everything seem to lead to a bad computer, when he connect is > > scan > > > > tools > > > > > > it > > > > > > > > get not code and an error reporting to put the key on. + their > > is > > > > > > various > > > > > > > > cable that have no power. He said that their is aftermarket > > computer > > > > > > > > available for my GC. DC want 585 CAN + tx for a new one...... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I just hope this is not a trial and error because it's getting > > > > > > expensive. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Pat > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > > LE CLONE > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 279 Notre-Dame > > > > > > > > Gatineau, Qc > > > > > > > > J8P 1K6 > > > > > > > > (819) 643-0511 > > > > > > > > SANS FRAIS 1 888 643 0511 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > le-clone@bellnet.ca > > > > > > > > www.leclone.com > > > > > > > > "DougW" <post.replies@invalid.address> wrote in message > > > > > > > > news:LkKid.98511$tU4.89125@okepread06... > > > > > > > > > mic canic did pass the time by typing: > > > > > > > > > > needs a crank sensor won't get either with a bad one > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This might help. > > > > > > > > > http://members.cox.net/wilsond/cps/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I've had no-fuel, no-spark, caused by a bad ignition coil. > > > > > > > > > The ASD (automatic shutdown relay) will turn off power to > > > > > > > > > both the coil and the fuel pump if the jeep does not start > > > > > > > > > in the first two to three engine revolutions. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Le CLone wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> My mechanic has just reported me that he does not get > fuel > > or > > > > > > spark... > > > > > > > > ? > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > |
Re: FINALLY
That's the same way my Brother learned, only the Stealership
charged him two grand the first time. God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/ Le CLone wrote: > > they replace the parts i was suggest first the CPS and voila.... my baby is > running again ! > im so happy > thanks to everyone who help me on this one. > > im gonna drink a good cold one tonight > > Pat > > -- > -- > LE CLONE > > 279 Notre-Dame > Gatineau, Qc > J8P 1K6 > (819) 643-0511 > SANS FRAIS 1 888 643 0511 > > patrick@leclone.com > www.leclone.com > "Le CLone" <Le-clone@bellnet.ca> wrote in message > news:nSskd.24612$km5.1244867@news20.bellglobal.com ... > > Well i made them order the sensor today, i have a feeling this is it, and > it > > been a week they are trying to find the problem !!!! > > > > I think i will have argument when the bill will come in. > > > > Pat > > > > -- > > LE CLONE > > > > 279 Notre-Dame > > Gatineau, Qc > > J8P 1K6 > > (819) 643-0511 > > SANS FRAIS 1 888 643 0511 > > > > patrick@leclone.com > > www.leclone.com > > "mic canic" <dbrider@cac.net> wrote in message > > news:4190D9E6.EBD9FA9E@cac.net... > > > i wrench at a jeep dealer and in a month i see zero no starts resulting > > from bad > > > grounds and at least2 a month with bad crank sensors esp. on the 4.0 > > > once the engine is running u can disconnect the dist. wires and it will > > stay > > > running it's not used until it's shut off and restarted and the pcm > needs > > to > > > know were the cam sync. is > > > now it may be a rear bird that has a bad ground but law of averages are > > against > > > it > > > > > > Le CLone wrote: > > > > > > > Using a test light we are able to get ground from various parts on the > > > > engine, > > > > > > > > Assuming that the sensor quit while i was using the vehicules, because > > the > > > > day before it ran fine except it never start the day after, what > sensor > > it > > > > essential for the vehicule to start but is not required when the > > vehicules > > > > is running ? > > > > > > > > -- > > > > LE CLONE > > > > > > > > 279 Notre-Dame > > > > Gatineau, Qc > > > > J8P 1K6 > > > > (819) 643-0511 > > > > SANS FRAIS 1 888 643 0511 > > > > > > > > le-clone@bellnet.ca > > > > www.leclone.com > > > > "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message > > > > news:4190F182.252BD632@sympatico.ca... > > > > > Busted ground man...... > > > > > > > > > > You live in the 'classic' rust belt so bad that your axles are > rotting > > > > > away right? > > > > > > > > > > Have you changed the open wire mesh ground from the engine to the > > > > > firewall yet? > > > > > > > > > > Do you think that open mesh wire should last longer then a solid > steel > > > > > axle? > > > > > > > > > > Believe me, they rot 'way' faster than axles....... > > > > > > > > > > Mike > > > > > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00 > > > > > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's > > > > > > > > > > Le CLone wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > well they got the new computer today and the jeep still does not > > start > > > > !!!!! > > > > > > now im really stuck behind the mechanic and my 0- knownledge in > > > > > > electric..... > > > > > > > > > > > > pat > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > -- > > > > > > LE CLONE > > > > > > > > > > > > 279 Notre-Dame > > > > > > Gatineau, Qc > > > > > > J8P 1K6 > > > > > > (819) 643-0511 > > > > > > SANS FRAIS 1 888 643 0511 > > > > > > > > > > > > le-clone@bellnet.ca > > > > > > www.leclone.com > > > > > > "mic canic" <dbrider@cac.net> wrote in message > > > > > > news:418CB96C.A135C40A@cac.net... > > > > > > > careful !alot of cheaper scan tools will do that because they > have > > > > limited > > > > > > > software that interfaces with the vehicle > > > > > > > i see it all the time with snapon even > > > > > > > take it to a dealer you trust it will be cheaper inthe long run > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Le CLone wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Everything seem to lead to a bad computer, when he connect is > > scan > > > > tools > > > > > > it > > > > > > > > get not code and an error reporting to put the key on. + their > > is > > > > > > various > > > > > > > > cable that have no power. He said that their is aftermarket > > computer > > > > > > > > available for my GC. DC want 585 CAN + tx for a new one...... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I just hope this is not a trial and error because it's getting > > > > > > expensive. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Pat > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > > LE CLONE > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 279 Notre-Dame > > > > > > > > Gatineau, Qc > > > > > > > > J8P 1K6 > > > > > > > > (819) 643-0511 > > > > > > > > SANS FRAIS 1 888 643 0511 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > le-clone@bellnet.ca > > > > > > > > www.leclone.com > > > > > > > > "DougW" <post.replies@invalid.address> wrote in message > > > > > > > > news:LkKid.98511$tU4.89125@okepread06... > > > > > > > > > mic canic did pass the time by typing: > > > > > > > > > > needs a crank sensor won't get either with a bad one > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This might help. > > > > > > > > > http://members.cox.net/wilsond/cps/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I've had no-fuel, no-spark, caused by a bad ignition coil. > > > > > > > > > The ASD (automatic shutdown relay) will turn off power to > > > > > > > > > both the coil and the fuel pump if the jeep does not start > > > > > > > > > in the first two to three engine revolutions. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Le CLone wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> My mechanic has just reported me that he does not get > fuel > > or > > > > > > spark... > > > > > > > > ? > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > |
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