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96 GC don't start
Monday night i start it and it ran roughly, i shut it down and restart it
and it was ok, this morning nada.... the engine turn but the truck does not start. Fuel Pump ??? 96 GC I6 4x4 -- LE CLONE 279 Notre-Dame Gatineau, Qc J8P 1K6 (819) 643-0511 SANS FRAIS 1 888 643 0511 le-clone@bellnet.ca www.leclone.com |
Re: 96 GC don't start
If it's the fuel pump, you will not hear it run for a couple of
seconds each time you turn the ignition switch to the on position. If it's your check valve leaking back to the tank, then cycle the ignition switch several times to get the required forty pounds back on the injectors, for it to start, but more than likely it's the Crank Position Sensor: http://www.off-road.com/jeep/cheroke...tdcsensor.html God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/ Le CLone wrote: > > Monday night i start it and it ran roughly, i shut it down and restart it > and it was ok, this morning nada.... the engine turn but the truck does not > start. > > Fuel Pump ??? > > 96 GC I6 4x4 > > -- > LE CLONE > > 279 Notre-Dame > Gatineau, Qc > J8P 1K6 > (819) 643-0511 > SANS FRAIS 1 888 643 0511 > > le-clone@bellnet.ca > www.leclone.com |
Re: 96 GC don't start
If it's the fuel pump, you will not hear it run for a couple of
seconds each time you turn the ignition switch to the on position. If it's your check valve leaking back to the tank, then cycle the ignition switch several times to get the required forty pounds back on the injectors, for it to start, but more than likely it's the Crank Position Sensor: http://www.off-road.com/jeep/cheroke...tdcsensor.html God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/ Le CLone wrote: > > Monday night i start it and it ran roughly, i shut it down and restart it > and it was ok, this morning nada.... the engine turn but the truck does not > start. > > Fuel Pump ??? > > 96 GC I6 4x4 > > -- > LE CLONE > > 279 Notre-Dame > Gatineau, Qc > J8P 1K6 > (819) 643-0511 > SANS FRAIS 1 888 643 0511 > > le-clone@bellnet.ca > www.leclone.com |
Re: 96 GC don't start
Your subject says it is a "96 GC" but in your text you seem to be
talking about a "Truck." I am mixed up. --James-- |
Re: 96 GC don't start
Your subject says it is a "96 GC" but in your text you seem to be
talking about a "Truck." I am mixed up. --James-- |
Re: 96 GC don't start
James, the Utility Vehicle is a truck, some princely people call them a
Sports Utility Vehicle. Try to find a Jeep that is not listed as a truck at Auto Recalls: http://alldata.com/TSB/ God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/ James Nipper wrote: > > Your subject says it is a "96 GC" but in your text you seem to be > talking about a "Truck." > > I am mixed up. > > --James-- |
Re: 96 GC don't start
James, the Utility Vehicle is a truck, some princely people call them a
Sports Utility Vehicle. Try to find a Jeep that is not listed as a truck at Auto Recalls: http://alldata.com/TSB/ God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/ James Nipper wrote: > > Your subject says it is a "96 GC" but in your text you seem to be > talking about a "Truck." > > I am mixed up. > > --James-- |
Re: 96 GC don't start
Is this TCD sensor or anything similar a factor in CJ7's or only Cherokee's?
-- griffin '85 Jeep CJ-7 '97 Toyota Corolla SD "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message news:418938E2.FD8A70D6@cox.net... > If it's the fuel pump, you will not hear it run for a couple of > seconds each time you turn the ignition switch to the on position. If > it's your check valve leaking back to the tank, then cycle the ignition > switch several times to get the required forty pounds back on the > injectors, for it to start, but more than likely it's the Crank Position > Sensor: > http://www.off-road.com/jeep/cheroke...tdcsensor.html > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/ |
Re: 96 GC don't start
Is this TCD sensor or anything similar a factor in CJ7's or only Cherokee's?
-- griffin '85 Jeep CJ-7 '97 Toyota Corolla SD "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message news:418938E2.FD8A70D6@cox.net... > If it's the fuel pump, you will not hear it run for a couple of > seconds each time you turn the ignition switch to the on position. If > it's your check valve leaking back to the tank, then cycle the ignition > switch several times to get the required forty pounds back on the > injectors, for it to start, but more than likely it's the Crank Position > Sensor: > http://www.off-road.com/jeep/cheroke...tdcsensor.html > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/ |
Re: 96 GC don't start
That sensor came with the computer control electronic injection.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/ griffin wrote: > > Is this TCD sensor or anything similar a factor in CJ7's or only Cherokee's? > > -- > griffin > '85 Jeep CJ-7 > '97 Toyota Corolla SD |
Re: 96 GC don't start
That sensor came with the computer control electronic injection.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/ griffin wrote: > > Is this TCD sensor or anything similar a factor in CJ7's or only Cherokee's? > > -- > griffin > '85 Jeep CJ-7 > '97 Toyota Corolla SD |
Re: 96 GC don't start
think of it as a truck with an interior you wash out with a plant mister
rather than a hose :-) Dave Milne, Scotland '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ "James Nipper" <jnipper@nospam.fdn.com> wrote in message news:QI2dnXOdLsRSABTcRVn-iQ@comcast.com... > Your subject says it is a "96 GC" but in your text you seem to be > talking about a "Truck." > > > > I am mixed up. > > > --James-- > |
Re: 96 GC don't start
think of it as a truck with an interior you wash out with a plant mister
rather than a hose :-) Dave Milne, Scotland '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ "James Nipper" <jnipper@nospam.fdn.com> wrote in message news:QI2dnXOdLsRSABTcRVn-iQ@comcast.com... > Your subject says it is a "96 GC" but in your text you seem to be > talking about a "Truck." > > > > I am mixed up. > > > --James-- > |
Re: 96 GC don't start
Yes, it is called the pickup coil and I told you in another post how to
test it.. Mike 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's griffin wrote: > > Is this TCD sensor or anything similar a factor in CJ7's or only Cherokee's? > > -- > griffin > '85 Jeep CJ-7 > '97 Toyota Corolla SD > > "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message > news:418938E2.FD8A70D6@cox.net... > > If it's the fuel pump, you will not hear it run for a couple of > > seconds each time you turn the ignition switch to the on position. If > > it's your check valve leaking back to the tank, then cycle the ignition > > switch several times to get the required forty pounds back on the > > injectors, for it to start, but more than likely it's the Crank Position > > Sensor: > > http://www.off-road.com/jeep/cheroke...tdcsensor.html > > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O > > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/ |
Re: 96 GC don't start
Yes, it is called the pickup coil and I told you in another post how to
test it.. Mike 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's griffin wrote: > > Is this TCD sensor or anything similar a factor in CJ7's or only Cherokee's? > > -- > griffin > '85 Jeep CJ-7 > '97 Toyota Corolla SD > > "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message > news:418938E2.FD8A70D6@cox.net... > > If it's the fuel pump, you will not hear it run for a couple of > > seconds each time you turn the ignition switch to the on position. If > > it's your check valve leaking back to the tank, then cycle the ignition > > switch several times to get the required forty pounds back on the > > injectors, for it to start, but more than likely it's the Crank Position > > Sensor: > > http://www.off-road.com/jeep/cheroke...tdcsensor.html > > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O > > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/ |
Re: 96 GC don't start
My mechanic has just reported me that he does not get fuel or spark... ?
-- -- LE CLONE 279 Notre-Dame Gatineau, Qc J8P 1K6 (819) 643-0511 SANS FRAIS 1 888 643 0511 le-clone@bellnet.ca www.leclone.com "Le CLone" <Le-clone@bellnet.ca> wrote in message news:Fx6id.13$Lm.112960@news20.bellglobal.com... > Monday night i start it and it ran roughly, i shut it down and restart it > and it was ok, this morning nada.... the engine turn but the truck does not > start. > > Fuel Pump ??? > > 96 GC I6 4x4 > > -- > LE CLONE > > 279 Notre-Dame > Gatineau, Qc > J8P 1K6 > (819) 643-0511 > SANS FRAIS 1 888 643 0511 > > le-clone@bellnet.ca > www.leclone.com > > |
Re: 96 GC don't start
My mechanic has just reported me that he does not get fuel or spark... ?
-- -- LE CLONE 279 Notre-Dame Gatineau, Qc J8P 1K6 (819) 643-0511 SANS FRAIS 1 888 643 0511 le-clone@bellnet.ca www.leclone.com "Le CLone" <Le-clone@bellnet.ca> wrote in message news:Fx6id.13$Lm.112960@news20.bellglobal.com... > Monday night i start it and it ran roughly, i shut it down and restart it > and it was ok, this morning nada.... the engine turn but the truck does not > start. > > Fuel Pump ??? > > 96 GC I6 4x4 > > -- > LE CLONE > > 279 Notre-Dame > Gatineau, Qc > J8P 1K6 > (819) 643-0511 > SANS FRAIS 1 888 643 0511 > > le-clone@bellnet.ca > www.leclone.com > > |
Re: 96 GC don't start
I would be checking the main body ground mesh strap. It should run from
the rear of the engine head to the firewall. Mike 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's Le CLone wrote: > > My mechanic has just reported me that he does not get fuel or spark... ? > > -- > -- > LE CLONE > > 279 Notre-Dame > Gatineau, Qc > J8P 1K6 > (819) 643-0511 > SANS FRAIS 1 888 643 0511 > > le-clone@bellnet.ca > www.leclone.com > "Le CLone" <Le-clone@bellnet.ca> wrote in message > news:Fx6id.13$Lm.112960@news20.bellglobal.com... > > Monday night i start it and it ran roughly, i shut it down and restart it > > and it was ok, this morning nada.... the engine turn but the truck does > not > > start. > > > > Fuel Pump ??? > > > > 96 GC I6 4x4 > > > > -- > > LE CLONE > > > > 279 Notre-Dame > > Gatineau, Qc > > J8P 1K6 > > (819) 643-0511 > > SANS FRAIS 1 888 643 0511 > > > > le-clone@bellnet.ca > > www.leclone.com > > > > |
Re: 96 GC don't start
I would be checking the main body ground mesh strap. It should run from
the rear of the engine head to the firewall. Mike 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's Le CLone wrote: > > My mechanic has just reported me that he does not get fuel or spark... ? > > -- > -- > LE CLONE > > 279 Notre-Dame > Gatineau, Qc > J8P 1K6 > (819) 643-0511 > SANS FRAIS 1 888 643 0511 > > le-clone@bellnet.ca > www.leclone.com > "Le CLone" <Le-clone@bellnet.ca> wrote in message > news:Fx6id.13$Lm.112960@news20.bellglobal.com... > > Monday night i start it and it ran roughly, i shut it down and restart it > > and it was ok, this morning nada.... the engine turn but the truck does > not > > start. > > > > Fuel Pump ??? > > > > 96 GC I6 4x4 > > > > -- > > LE CLONE > > > > 279 Notre-Dame > > Gatineau, Qc > > J8P 1K6 > > (819) 643-0511 > > SANS FRAIS 1 888 643 0511 > > > > le-clone@bellnet.ca > > www.leclone.com > > > > |
Re: 96 GC don't start
Their been 3 hours spent on the truck and the problem is still not found,
they connect a scan tools and they can't get anything out of it?? the truck was working perfectly before, now it look like a major electrical problem..... -- LE CLONE 279 Notre-Dame Gatineau, Qc J8P 1K6 (819) 643-0511 SANS FRAIS 1 888 643 0511 le-clone@bellnet.ca www.leclone.com "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message news:418A44F8.E92113F3@sympatico.ca... > I would be checking the main body ground mesh strap. It should run from > the rear of the engine head to the firewall. > > Mike > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00 > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's > > Le CLone wrote: > > > > My mechanic has just reported me that he does not get fuel or spark... ? > > > > -- > > -- > > LE CLONE > > > > 279 Notre-Dame > > Gatineau, Qc > > J8P 1K6 > > (819) 643-0511 > > SANS FRAIS 1 888 643 0511 > > > > le-clone@bellnet.ca > > www.leclone.com > > "Le CLone" <Le-clone@bellnet.ca> wrote in message > > news:Fx6id.13$Lm.112960@news20.bellglobal.com... > > > Monday night i start it and it ran roughly, i shut it down and restart it > > > and it was ok, this morning nada.... the engine turn but the truck does > > not > > > start. > > > > > > Fuel Pump ??? > > > > > > 96 GC I6 4x4 > > > > > > -- > > > LE CLONE > > > > > > 279 Notre-Dame > > > Gatineau, Qc > > > J8P 1K6 > > > (819) 643-0511 > > > SANS FRAIS 1 888 643 0511 > > > > > > le-clone@bellnet.ca > > > www.leclone.com > > > > > > |
Re: 96 GC don't start
Their been 3 hours spent on the truck and the problem is still not found,
they connect a scan tools and they can't get anything out of it?? the truck was working perfectly before, now it look like a major electrical problem..... -- LE CLONE 279 Notre-Dame Gatineau, Qc J8P 1K6 (819) 643-0511 SANS FRAIS 1 888 643 0511 le-clone@bellnet.ca www.leclone.com "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message news:418A44F8.E92113F3@sympatico.ca... > I would be checking the main body ground mesh strap. It should run from > the rear of the engine head to the firewall. > > Mike > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00 > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's > > Le CLone wrote: > > > > My mechanic has just reported me that he does not get fuel or spark... ? > > > > -- > > -- > > LE CLONE > > > > 279 Notre-Dame > > Gatineau, Qc > > J8P 1K6 > > (819) 643-0511 > > SANS FRAIS 1 888 643 0511 > > > > le-clone@bellnet.ca > > www.leclone.com > > "Le CLone" <Le-clone@bellnet.ca> wrote in message > > news:Fx6id.13$Lm.112960@news20.bellglobal.com... > > > Monday night i start it and it ran roughly, i shut it down and restart it > > > and it was ok, this morning nada.... the engine turn but the truck does > > not > > > start. > > > > > > Fuel Pump ??? > > > > > > 96 GC I6 4x4 > > > > > > -- > > > LE CLONE > > > > > > 279 Notre-Dame > > > Gatineau, Qc > > > J8P 1K6 > > > (819) 643-0511 > > > SANS FRAIS 1 888 643 0511 > > > > > > le-clone@bellnet.ca > > > www.leclone.com > > > > > > |
Re: 96 GC don't start
That one wire I am talking about can cause all kinds of things not to
work! Mike Le CLone wrote: > > Their been 3 hours spent on the truck and the problem is still not found, > they connect a scan tools and they can't get anything out of it?? > > the truck was working perfectly before, now it look like a major electrical > problem..... > > -- > LE CLONE > > 279 Notre-Dame > Gatineau, Qc > J8P 1K6 > (819) 643-0511 > SANS FRAIS 1 888 643 0511 > > le-clone@bellnet.ca > www.leclone.com > "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message > news:418A44F8.E92113F3@sympatico.ca... > > I would be checking the main body ground mesh strap. It should run from > > the rear of the engine head to the firewall. > > > > Mike > > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00 > > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's > > > > Le CLone wrote: > > > > > > My mechanic has just reported me that he does not get fuel or spark... ? > > > > > > -- > > > -- > > > LE CLONE > > > > > > 279 Notre-Dame > > > Gatineau, Qc > > > J8P 1K6 > > > (819) 643-0511 > > > SANS FRAIS 1 888 643 0511 > > > > > > le-clone@bellnet.ca > > > www.leclone.com > > > "Le CLone" <Le-clone@bellnet.ca> wrote in message > > > news:Fx6id.13$Lm.112960@news20.bellglobal.com... > > > > Monday night i start it and it ran roughly, i shut it down and restart > it > > > > and it was ok, this morning nada.... the engine turn but the truck > does > > > not > > > > start. > > > > > > > > Fuel Pump ??? > > > > > > > > 96 GC I6 4x4 > > > > > > > > -- > > > > LE CLONE > > > > > > > > 279 Notre-Dame > > > > Gatineau, Qc > > > > J8P 1K6 > > > > (819) 643-0511 > > > > SANS FRAIS 1 888 643 0511 > > > > > > > > le-clone@bellnet.ca > > > > www.leclone.com > > > > > > > > |
Re: 96 GC don't start
That one wire I am talking about can cause all kinds of things not to
work! Mike Le CLone wrote: > > Their been 3 hours spent on the truck and the problem is still not found, > they connect a scan tools and they can't get anything out of it?? > > the truck was working perfectly before, now it look like a major electrical > problem..... > > -- > LE CLONE > > 279 Notre-Dame > Gatineau, Qc > J8P 1K6 > (819) 643-0511 > SANS FRAIS 1 888 643 0511 > > le-clone@bellnet.ca > www.leclone.com > "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message > news:418A44F8.E92113F3@sympatico.ca... > > I would be checking the main body ground mesh strap. It should run from > > the rear of the engine head to the firewall. > > > > Mike > > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00 > > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's > > > > Le CLone wrote: > > > > > > My mechanic has just reported me that he does not get fuel or spark... ? > > > > > > -- > > > -- > > > LE CLONE > > > > > > 279 Notre-Dame > > > Gatineau, Qc > > > J8P 1K6 > > > (819) 643-0511 > > > SANS FRAIS 1 888 643 0511 > > > > > > le-clone@bellnet.ca > > > www.leclone.com > > > "Le CLone" <Le-clone@bellnet.ca> wrote in message > > > news:Fx6id.13$Lm.112960@news20.bellglobal.com... > > > > Monday night i start it and it ran roughly, i shut it down and restart > it > > > > and it was ok, this morning nada.... the engine turn but the truck > does > > > not > > > > start. > > > > > > > > Fuel Pump ??? > > > > > > > > 96 GC I6 4x4 > > > > > > > > -- > > > > LE CLONE > > > > > > > > 279 Notre-Dame > > > > Gatineau, Qc > > > > J8P 1K6 > > > > (819) 643-0511 > > > > SANS FRAIS 1 888 643 0511 > > > > > > > > le-clone@bellnet.ca > > > > www.leclone.com > > > > > > > > |
Re: 96 GC don't start
no fuel or spark at the same time is too much of a coincidence for me. i would
start with fuel pressure at the rail. check for bad fuel too. fuel pump is a commom problem. your running rough statement leads me to think i would start with fuel,,,assuming that all the obvious things have been checked,,,wires, plugs, etc |
Re: 96 GC don't start
no fuel or spark at the same time is too much of a coincidence for me. i would
start with fuel pressure at the rail. check for bad fuel too. fuel pump is a commom problem. your running rough statement leads me to think i would start with fuel,,,assuming that all the obvious things have been checked,,,wires, plugs, etc |
Re: 96 GC don't start
needs a crank sensor won't get either with a bad one
Le CLone wrote: > My mechanic has just reported me that he does not get fuel or spark... ? > > -- > -- > LE CLONE > > 279 Notre-Dame > Gatineau, Qc > J8P 1K6 > (819) 643-0511 > SANS FRAIS 1 888 643 0511 > > le-clone@bellnet.ca > www.leclone.com > "Le CLone" <Le-clone@bellnet.ca> wrote in message > news:Fx6id.13$Lm.112960@news20.bellglobal.com... > > Monday night i start it and it ran roughly, i shut it down and restart it > > and it was ok, this morning nada.... the engine turn but the truck does > not > > start. > > > > Fuel Pump ??? > > > > 96 GC I6 4x4 > > > > -- > > LE CLONE > > > > 279 Notre-Dame > > Gatineau, Qc > > J8P 1K6 > > (819) 643-0511 > > SANS FRAIS 1 888 643 0511 > > > > le-clone@bellnet.ca > > www.leclone.com > > > > |
Re: 96 GC don't start
needs a crank sensor won't get either with a bad one
Le CLone wrote: > My mechanic has just reported me that he does not get fuel or spark... ? > > -- > -- > LE CLONE > > 279 Notre-Dame > Gatineau, Qc > J8P 1K6 > (819) 643-0511 > SANS FRAIS 1 888 643 0511 > > le-clone@bellnet.ca > www.leclone.com > "Le CLone" <Le-clone@bellnet.ca> wrote in message > news:Fx6id.13$Lm.112960@news20.bellglobal.com... > > Monday night i start it and it ran roughly, i shut it down and restart it > > and it was ok, this morning nada.... the engine turn but the truck does > not > > start. > > > > Fuel Pump ??? > > > > 96 GC I6 4x4 > > > > -- > > LE CLONE > > > > 279 Notre-Dame > > Gatineau, Qc > > J8P 1K6 > > (819) 643-0511 > > SANS FRAIS 1 888 643 0511 > > > > le-clone@bellnet.ca > > www.leclone.com > > > > |
Re: 96 GC don't start
mic canic did pass the time by typing:
> needs a crank sensor won't get either with a bad one This might help. http://members.cox.net/wilsond/cps/ I've had no-fuel, no-spark, caused by a bad ignition coil. The ASD (automatic shutdown relay) will turn off power to both the coil and the fuel pump if the jeep does not start in the first two to three engine revolutions. > Le CLone wrote: > >> My mechanic has just reported me that he does not get fuel or spark... ? >> |
Re: 96 GC don't start
mic canic did pass the time by typing:
> needs a crank sensor won't get either with a bad one This might help. http://members.cox.net/wilsond/cps/ I've had no-fuel, no-spark, caused by a bad ignition coil. The ASD (automatic shutdown relay) will turn off power to both the coil and the fuel pump if the jeep does not start in the first two to three engine revolutions. > Le CLone wrote: > >> My mechanic has just reported me that he does not get fuel or spark... ? >> |
Re: 96 GC don't start
Everything seem to lead to a bad computer, when he connect is scan tools it
get not code and an error reporting to put the key on. + their is various cable that have no power. He said that their is aftermarket computer available for my GC. DC want 585 CAN + tx for a new one...... I just hope this is not a trial and error because it's getting expensive. Pat -- LE CLONE 279 Notre-Dame Gatineau, Qc J8P 1K6 (819) 643-0511 SANS FRAIS 1 888 643 0511 le-clone@bellnet.ca www.leclone.com "DougW" <post.replies@invalid.address> wrote in message news:LkKid.98511$tU4.89125@okepread06... > mic canic did pass the time by typing: > > needs a crank sensor won't get either with a bad one > > This might help. > http://members.cox.net/wilsond/cps/ > > I've had no-fuel, no-spark, caused by a bad ignition coil. > The ASD (automatic shutdown relay) will turn off power to > both the coil and the fuel pump if the jeep does not start > in the first two to three engine revolutions. > > > Le CLone wrote: > > > >> My mechanic has just reported me that he does not get fuel or spark... ? > >> > > |
Re: 96 GC don't start
Everything seem to lead to a bad computer, when he connect is scan tools it
get not code and an error reporting to put the key on. + their is various cable that have no power. He said that their is aftermarket computer available for my GC. DC want 585 CAN + tx for a new one...... I just hope this is not a trial and error because it's getting expensive. Pat -- LE CLONE 279 Notre-Dame Gatineau, Qc J8P 1K6 (819) 643-0511 SANS FRAIS 1 888 643 0511 le-clone@bellnet.ca www.leclone.com "DougW" <post.replies@invalid.address> wrote in message news:LkKid.98511$tU4.89125@okepread06... > mic canic did pass the time by typing: > > needs a crank sensor won't get either with a bad one > > This might help. > http://members.cox.net/wilsond/cps/ > > I've had no-fuel, no-spark, caused by a bad ignition coil. > The ASD (automatic shutdown relay) will turn off power to > both the coil and the fuel pump if the jeep does not start > in the first two to three engine revolutions. > > > Le CLone wrote: > > > >> My mechanic has just reported me that he does not get fuel or spark... ? > >> > > |
Re: 96 GC don't start
That is screaming bad ground still to me!
The computer wiring harness has a main ground tag on a bolt on the rear passenger side. There are 3 or 4 small black wires there. To complete this computer ground circuit, the mesh strap from the back of the engine head to the firewall has to be is good shape. Mike 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's Le CLone wrote: > > Everything seem to lead to a bad computer, when he connect is scan tools it > get not code and an error reporting to put the key on. + their is various > cable that have no power. He said that their is aftermarket computer > available for my GC. DC want 585 CAN + tx for a new one...... > > I just hope this is not a trial and error because it's getting expensive. > > Pat > > -- > LE CLONE > > 279 Notre-Dame > Gatineau, Qc > J8P 1K6 > (819) 643-0511 > SANS FRAIS 1 888 643 0511 > > le-clone@bellnet.ca > www.leclone.com > "DougW" <post.replies@invalid.address> wrote in message > news:LkKid.98511$tU4.89125@okepread06... > > mic canic did pass the time by typing: > > > needs a crank sensor won't get either with a bad one > > > > This might help. > > http://members.cox.net/wilsond/cps/ > > > > I've had no-fuel, no-spark, caused by a bad ignition coil. > > The ASD (automatic shutdown relay) will turn off power to > > both the coil and the fuel pump if the jeep does not start > > in the first two to three engine revolutions. > > > > > Le CLone wrote: > > > > > >> My mechanic has just reported me that he does not get fuel or spark... > ? > > >> > > > > |
Re: 96 GC don't start
That is screaming bad ground still to me!
The computer wiring harness has a main ground tag on a bolt on the rear passenger side. There are 3 or 4 small black wires there. To complete this computer ground circuit, the mesh strap from the back of the engine head to the firewall has to be is good shape. Mike 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's Le CLone wrote: > > Everything seem to lead to a bad computer, when he connect is scan tools it > get not code and an error reporting to put the key on. + their is various > cable that have no power. He said that their is aftermarket computer > available for my GC. DC want 585 CAN + tx for a new one...... > > I just hope this is not a trial and error because it's getting expensive. > > Pat > > -- > LE CLONE > > 279 Notre-Dame > Gatineau, Qc > J8P 1K6 > (819) 643-0511 > SANS FRAIS 1 888 643 0511 > > le-clone@bellnet.ca > www.leclone.com > "DougW" <post.replies@invalid.address> wrote in message > news:LkKid.98511$tU4.89125@okepread06... > > mic canic did pass the time by typing: > > > needs a crank sensor won't get either with a bad one > > > > This might help. > > http://members.cox.net/wilsond/cps/ > > > > I've had no-fuel, no-spark, caused by a bad ignition coil. > > The ASD (automatic shutdown relay) will turn off power to > > both the coil and the fuel pump if the jeep does not start > > in the first two to three engine revolutions. > > > > > Le CLone wrote: > > > > > >> My mechanic has just reported me that he does not get fuel or spark... > ? > > >> > > > > |
Re: 96 GC don't start
As per the mechanic it might be a faulty ignition cable going to the ECM
that has caused the ECM to died... he his tracing the cable to find any damage. Im totally lost in this now and it will cost me a lot to fix. too bad the damm thing did not burn to the ground. "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message news:418B98DF.2CA10D73@sympatico.ca... > That is screaming bad ground still to me! > > The computer wiring harness has a main ground tag on a bolt on the rear > passenger side. There are 3 or 4 small black wires there. To complete > this computer ground circuit, the mesh strap from the back of the engine > head to the firewall has to be is good shape. > > Mike > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00 > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's > > Le CLone wrote: > > > > Everything seem to lead to a bad computer, when he connect is scan tools it > > get not code and an error reporting to put the key on. + their is various > > cable that have no power. He said that their is aftermarket computer > > available for my GC. DC want 585 CAN + tx for a new one...... > > > > I just hope this is not a trial and error because it's getting expensive. > > > > Pat > > > > -- > > LE CLONE > > > > 279 Notre-Dame > > Gatineau, Qc > > J8P 1K6 > > (819) 643-0511 > > SANS FRAIS 1 888 643 0511 > > > > le-clone@bellnet.ca > > www.leclone.com > > "DougW" <post.replies@invalid.address> wrote in message > > news:LkKid.98511$tU4.89125@okepread06... > > > mic canic did pass the time by typing: > > > > needs a crank sensor won't get either with a bad one > > > > > > This might help. > > > http://members.cox.net/wilsond/cps/ > > > > > > I've had no-fuel, no-spark, caused by a bad ignition coil. > > > The ASD (automatic shutdown relay) will turn off power to > > > both the coil and the fuel pump if the jeep does not start > > > in the first two to three engine revolutions. > > > > > > > Le CLone wrote: > > > > > > > >> My mechanic has just reported me that he does not get fuel or spark... > > ? > > > >> > > > > > > |
Re: 96 GC don't start
As per the mechanic it might be a faulty ignition cable going to the ECM
that has caused the ECM to died... he his tracing the cable to find any damage. Im totally lost in this now and it will cost me a lot to fix. too bad the damm thing did not burn to the ground. "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message news:418B98DF.2CA10D73@sympatico.ca... > That is screaming bad ground still to me! > > The computer wiring harness has a main ground tag on a bolt on the rear > passenger side. There are 3 or 4 small black wires there. To complete > this computer ground circuit, the mesh strap from the back of the engine > head to the firewall has to be is good shape. > > Mike > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00 > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's > > Le CLone wrote: > > > > Everything seem to lead to a bad computer, when he connect is scan tools it > > get not code and an error reporting to put the key on. + their is various > > cable that have no power. He said that their is aftermarket computer > > available for my GC. DC want 585 CAN + tx for a new one...... > > > > I just hope this is not a trial and error because it's getting expensive. > > > > Pat > > > > -- > > LE CLONE > > > > 279 Notre-Dame > > Gatineau, Qc > > J8P 1K6 > > (819) 643-0511 > > SANS FRAIS 1 888 643 0511 > > > > le-clone@bellnet.ca > > www.leclone.com > > "DougW" <post.replies@invalid.address> wrote in message > > news:LkKid.98511$tU4.89125@okepread06... > > > mic canic did pass the time by typing: > > > > needs a crank sensor won't get either with a bad one > > > > > > This might help. > > > http://members.cox.net/wilsond/cps/ > > > > > > I've had no-fuel, no-spark, caused by a bad ignition coil. > > > The ASD (automatic shutdown relay) will turn off power to > > > both the coil and the fuel pump if the jeep does not start > > > in the first two to three engine revolutions. > > > > > > > Le CLone wrote: > > > > > > > >> My mechanic has just reported me that he does not get fuel or spark... > > ? > > > >> > > > > > > |
Re: 96 GC don't start
careful !alot of cheaper scan tools will do that because they have limited
software that interfaces with the vehicle i see it all the time with snapon even take it to a dealer you trust it will be cheaper inthe long run Le CLone wrote: > Everything seem to lead to a bad computer, when he connect is scan tools it > get not code and an error reporting to put the key on. + their is various > cable that have no power. He said that their is aftermarket computer > available for my GC. DC want 585 CAN + tx for a new one...... > > I just hope this is not a trial and error because it's getting expensive. > > Pat > > -- > LE CLONE > > 279 Notre-Dame > Gatineau, Qc > J8P 1K6 > (819) 643-0511 > SANS FRAIS 1 888 643 0511 > > le-clone@bellnet.ca > www.leclone.com > "DougW" <post.replies@invalid.address> wrote in message > news:LkKid.98511$tU4.89125@okepread06... > > mic canic did pass the time by typing: > > > needs a crank sensor won't get either with a bad one > > > > This might help. > > http://members.cox.net/wilsond/cps/ > > > > I've had no-fuel, no-spark, caused by a bad ignition coil. > > The ASD (automatic shutdown relay) will turn off power to > > both the coil and the fuel pump if the jeep does not start > > in the first two to three engine revolutions. > > > > > Le CLone wrote: > > > > > >> My mechanic has just reported me that he does not get fuel or spark... > ? > > >> > > > > |
Re: 96 GC don't start
careful !alot of cheaper scan tools will do that because they have limited
software that interfaces with the vehicle i see it all the time with snapon even take it to a dealer you trust it will be cheaper inthe long run Le CLone wrote: > Everything seem to lead to a bad computer, when he connect is scan tools it > get not code and an error reporting to put the key on. + their is various > cable that have no power. He said that their is aftermarket computer > available for my GC. DC want 585 CAN + tx for a new one...... > > I just hope this is not a trial and error because it's getting expensive. > > Pat > > -- > LE CLONE > > 279 Notre-Dame > Gatineau, Qc > J8P 1K6 > (819) 643-0511 > SANS FRAIS 1 888 643 0511 > > le-clone@bellnet.ca > www.leclone.com > "DougW" <post.replies@invalid.address> wrote in message > news:LkKid.98511$tU4.89125@okepread06... > > mic canic did pass the time by typing: > > > needs a crank sensor won't get either with a bad one > > > > This might help. > > http://members.cox.net/wilsond/cps/ > > > > I've had no-fuel, no-spark, caused by a bad ignition coil. > > The ASD (automatic shutdown relay) will turn off power to > > both the coil and the fuel pump if the jeep does not start > > in the first two to three engine revolutions. > > > > > Le CLone wrote: > > > > > >> My mechanic has just reported me that he does not get fuel or spark... > ? > > >> > > > > |
Re: 96 GC don't start
well they got the new computer today and the jeep still does not start !!!!!
now im really stuck behind the mechanic and my 0- knownledge in electric..... pat -- -- LE CLONE 279 Notre-Dame Gatineau, Qc J8P 1K6 (819) 643-0511 SANS FRAIS 1 888 643 0511 le-clone@bellnet.ca www.leclone.com "mic canic" <dbrider@cac.net> wrote in message news:418CB96C.A135C40A@cac.net... > careful !alot of cheaper scan tools will do that because they have limited > software that interfaces with the vehicle > i see it all the time with snapon even > take it to a dealer you trust it will be cheaper inthe long run > > Le CLone wrote: > > > Everything seem to lead to a bad computer, when he connect is scan tools it > > get not code and an error reporting to put the key on. + their is various > > cable that have no power. He said that their is aftermarket computer > > available for my GC. DC want 585 CAN + tx for a new one...... > > > > I just hope this is not a trial and error because it's getting expensive. > > > > Pat > > > > -- > > LE CLONE > > > > 279 Notre-Dame > > Gatineau, Qc > > J8P 1K6 > > (819) 643-0511 > > SANS FRAIS 1 888 643 0511 > > > > le-clone@bellnet.ca > > www.leclone.com > > "DougW" <post.replies@invalid.address> wrote in message > > news:LkKid.98511$tU4.89125@okepread06... > > > mic canic did pass the time by typing: > > > > needs a crank sensor won't get either with a bad one > > > > > > This might help. > > > http://members.cox.net/wilsond/cps/ > > > > > > I've had no-fuel, no-spark, caused by a bad ignition coil. > > > The ASD (automatic shutdown relay) will turn off power to > > > both the coil and the fuel pump if the jeep does not start > > > in the first two to three engine revolutions. > > > > > > > Le CLone wrote: > > > > > > > >> My mechanic has just reported me that he does not get fuel or spark... > > ? > > > >> > > > > > > > |
Re: 96 GC don't start
well they got the new computer today and the jeep still does not start !!!!!
now im really stuck behind the mechanic and my 0- knownledge in electric..... pat -- -- LE CLONE 279 Notre-Dame Gatineau, Qc J8P 1K6 (819) 643-0511 SANS FRAIS 1 888 643 0511 le-clone@bellnet.ca www.leclone.com "mic canic" <dbrider@cac.net> wrote in message news:418CB96C.A135C40A@cac.net... > careful !alot of cheaper scan tools will do that because they have limited > software that interfaces with the vehicle > i see it all the time with snapon even > take it to a dealer you trust it will be cheaper inthe long run > > Le CLone wrote: > > > Everything seem to lead to a bad computer, when he connect is scan tools it > > get not code and an error reporting to put the key on. + their is various > > cable that have no power. He said that their is aftermarket computer > > available for my GC. DC want 585 CAN + tx for a new one...... > > > > I just hope this is not a trial and error because it's getting expensive. > > > > Pat > > > > -- > > LE CLONE > > > > 279 Notre-Dame > > Gatineau, Qc > > J8P 1K6 > > (819) 643-0511 > > SANS FRAIS 1 888 643 0511 > > > > le-clone@bellnet.ca > > www.leclone.com > > "DougW" <post.replies@invalid.address> wrote in message > > news:LkKid.98511$tU4.89125@okepread06... > > > mic canic did pass the time by typing: > > > > needs a crank sensor won't get either with a bad one > > > > > > This might help. > > > http://members.cox.net/wilsond/cps/ > > > > > > I've had no-fuel, no-spark, caused by a bad ignition coil. > > > The ASD (automatic shutdown relay) will turn off power to > > > both the coil and the fuel pump if the jeep does not start > > > in the first two to three engine revolutions. > > > > > > > Le CLone wrote: > > > > > > > >> My mechanic has just reported me that he does not get fuel or spark... > > ? > > > >> > > > > > > > |
Re: 96 GC don't start
Bummer, it took two thousand dollars worth of trial and errors by
the time my Brother replaced his Crankshaft Position Sensor, for the first of three Jeeps with that same problem. Another starting position for the computer is the Camshaft position Sensor in the distributor. God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/ Le CLone wrote: > > well they got the new computer today and the jeep still does not start !!!!! > now im really stuck behind the mechanic and my 0- knownledge in > electric..... > > pat > > -- > -- > LE CLONE > > 279 Notre-Dame > Gatineau, Qc > J8P 1K6 > (819) 643-0511 > SANS FRAIS 1 888 643 0511 |
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